WE'RE BACK HERE WITH MAYOR PETE BUTTIGEIG.

我們現在回到這裡，主要是佩特・布提格。

NOW, MR. MAYOR, ANOTHER SUBJECT TONIGHT IN THE DEBATE, SUBJECT

現在，市長先生，今晚辯論的另一個主題，就是...

FOR OUR NATION FOR MONTHS NOW, HAS BEEN THE SUPREME COURT, AND

幾個月來，我們國家的最高法院，和。

SORT OF RAMMING THROUGH AMY CONEY BARRETT THIS CLOSE TO THE

某種程度上說，通過AMY CONEY BARRETT這個接近於

ELECTION WHEN IT'S ALREADY STARTED.

當選舉已經開始時。

AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION TONIGHT OF WHAT THE STAKES ARE

今晚我們討論了一下賭注是什麼。

HERE.

這裡。

BUT THERE'S A VERY INTERESTING ONE THAT HAPPENED ON MONDAY.

但有一個非常有趣的一個發生在星期一。

TWO SUPREME COURT JUSTICES, THOMAS AND ALITO, IN AN OPINION

兩位最高法院大法官，托馬斯和阿利托，在一份意見書中指出

ABOUT A CASE THE COURT DECLINED TO HEAR, THREATENED THE FUTURE

關於法院拒絕審理的案件，威脅到了未來。

OF MARRIAGE EQUALITY, BASICALLY LAYING THE GROUNDWORK, IN THEIR

婚姻平等的基本原則，為其奠定基礎。

OPINION THAT THEY THINK IT SHOULD BE OVERTURNED.

他們認為應該翻轉的意見。

WHAT'S YOUR MESSAGE TO YOUR JUSTICES, SINCE THAT AFFECTS YOU

既然對你有影響，你對你的法官有什麼寄語？

SPECIFICALLY.

特別是：

YOU ARE A MARRIED GAY MAN.

你是一個已婚的同性戀者。

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY TO THOSE TWO JUSTICES?

你想對那兩位大法官說什麼？

>> YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS I'M TIRED

>> 你知道，我想我想說的是我累了。

OF THE EXISTENCE OF MY MARRIAGE, MY FAMILY BEING UP FOR DEBATE.

我的婚姻和家庭的存在有待商榷，

THIS QUESTION WAS SETTLED, AND WHEN IT WAS, THAT WAS A STEP

這個問題已經解決了，當它是，這是一個步驟。

FORWARD IN THIS COUNTRY.

在這個國家前進。

AND THE IDEA THAT THESE JUSTICES WHO ASCRAB TO A JUDICIAL

和想法，這些大法官誰ASCRAB到一個正義的。

PHILOSOPHY OR CLAIM TO, THAT'S ABOUT PRECEDENT AND ABOUT NOT

哲學或聲稱，這是關於先驗和不先驗的。

LEGISLATING FROM THE BENCH, TO NOW BE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT,

我的意思是，現在的立法工作是：

BETWEEN THE LINES, THREATENING MARRIAGE EQUALITY.

威脅到婚姻平等。

IT'S JUST A REMINDER OF WHAT'S AT STAKE IN THIS ELECTION.

這只是提醒大家這次選舉的關鍵所在。

THAT'S WHY I'M WITH THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS, AND JOE BIDEN AND

這就是為什麼我和大多數美國人在一起，喬-比登和...

KAMALA HARRIS, WHO THINK IT'S THE VOTERS VOTING RIGHT NOW WHO

卡馬拉-哈里斯，誰認為現在投票的是選民？

OUGHT TO CHOOSE THE PRESIDENT WHO WILL CHOOSE THE NEXT SUPREME

應該選擇下一任最高法院院長的人選。

COURT JUSTICE.

法院法官：

THIS IS SO PERSONAL FOR SO MANY OF US.

這對我們很多人來說是如此的私人化。

IT'S PERSONAL FOR US, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MY MARRIAGE, MY

這對我們來說是私人的，因為我知道我的婚姻，我的。

WEDDING RING ON MY FINGER IS ONLY THERE BY THE GRACE OF A

我手指上的婚戒是靠著上帝的恩典才存在的。

SINGLE VOTE ON THE COURT.

法院單項表決。

BUT IT'S PERSONAL IN SO MANY OTHER WAYS, TOO.

但它是個人的，在許多其他方式，太。

IT'S PERSONAL IF YOU HAVE PREEXISTING CONDITIONS AND THEY

如果你有以前的病症，而且這些病症是你個人的

COULD TAKE THAT AWAY.

可以把它拿走。

IT'S PERSONAL GIVEN WHAT THEY COULD DO TO VOTING RIGHTS.

他們會對選舉權做什麼，這是個人恩怨。

SO MANY THINGS IN OUR LIVES ARE SHAPED BY THESE DECISIONS.

我們生活中的許多事情都是由這些決定決定的。

WHAT THEY DO IN THERE IS NOT JUST ABOUT ARCANE POINTS OF

他們在那裡所做的事情不僅僅是關於夏恩的觀點。

LEGAL ACADEMIA.

法律學院：

DECIDES HOW OUR LIVES ARE GOING TO GO.

決定了我們的生活將如何發展。

AND IT'S ONE MORE REASON WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE WIN

這也是為什麼我們的勝利如此重要的另一個原因。

THIS ELECTION.

這次選舉。

>> Stephen: IF AMY CONEY BARRETT IS APPOINTED TO THE

>> Stephen:如果AMY CONEY BARRETT被任命為委員會成員。

SUPREME COURT SUCCESSFULLY-- AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE

最高法院成功地--而且看起來好像會是這樣的

VERY DIFFICULT TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING-- A MAJORITY OF THE

要防止這種情況發生非常困難 -- 大部分的人都是這樣。

JUSTICES WILL HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY PRESIDENTS WHO

大法官將由總統任命，他們將由以下人員擔任

RECEIVED A MINORITY OF THE VOTE FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN

獲得美國人民過半數的選票，當時：

THEY FIRST REACHED OFFICE.

他們第一次到達辦公室。

IT'S A VERY ODD SHIFTING OF POWER.

這是一個非常奇怪的權力轉移。

YOU'VE GOT THIS UPCOMING GENERATION-- BASICALLY,

你已經得到了這個未來的一代 - 基本上。

EVERYBODY UNDER 40-- IT'S NEARLY UNANIMOUS THAT THEY'RE FINE WITH

所有40歲以下的人幾乎一致認為他們都沒有問題。

GAY MARRIAGE.

同志婚姻：

IT'S OBVIOUS TO THEM.

這對他們來說是顯而易見的。

WHEREAS YOU HAVE A COURT THAT HAS THE POSSIBILITY OF

鑑於你們有一個法院有可能：

OVERTURNING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

翻轉這樣的東西。

WHAT ON EARTH WOULD SNAP YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF

到底是什麼東西會讓你有幾十萬的資金？

PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN MARRIED IN SAME-SEX MARRIAGES NOW, WHAT ON

已經在同性婚姻中結婚的人，現在，什麼情況？

EARTH WOULD BE THE MECHANISM GOING FORWARD?

地球會是向前發展的機制？

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THOSE PEOPLE?

這些人將會怎樣？

>> YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE

>> "你知道，你知道，這是我的一個問題

ALWAYS HAD FOR PEOPLE LIKE MIKE PENCE AND PERHAPS JUDGE BATTER.

一直以來都是為邁克-彭斯和巴特法官這些人服務的。

I DON'T KNOW.

我不知道。

IF YOU GET YOUR WAY AND OVERTURN OUR RIGHT TO MARRIAGE EQUALITY,

如果你得到你的方式，並顛覆我們的婚姻平等的權利。

IS IT YOUR HOPE THAT PEOPLE LIKE ME HAVE TO GET DIVORCED AND

你是否希望像我這樣的人不得不離婚，然後...

LEAVE THOSE WE LOVE?

離開我們所愛的人？

OR WOULD YOU BE SATISFIED FOR US MERELY TO BE STRIPPED OF OUR

或者你會對我們僅僅是被剝奪了我們的權利而感到滿意嗎？

RIGHTS TO VISIT EACH OTHER IN THE HOSPITAL AND FILE TAXES

在醫院探望對方和報稅的權利

TOGETHER AND BE PROTECTED IN THE WORKPLACE?

團結一致，在工作場所受到保護？

I DON'T KNOW.

我不知道。

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT TO TAKE US BACK TO.

我不知道他們到底想把我們帶回什麼地方去。

WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THE WORLD GOT A LITTLE BETTER WHEN-- A LOT

我所知道的是，世界變得更好了，當... ...很多的時候

BETTER-- FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN MARRIAGE EQUALITY BECAME

更好的 -- -- 對許多人來說，當婚姻平等成為

THE LAW OF THE LAND.

土地法：

AND IT'S NOT THE TIME TO TURN BACKWARDS.

而且現在不是逆向行駛的時候。

>> Stephen: YOU'VE GOT A NEW BOOK.

>> Stephen:你有一本新書。

IT'S CALLED "TRUST: AMERICA'S BEST CHANCE." AMERICA HAS, IN

這就是所謂的 "信任，美國最好的機會"。 美國有，在

MANY WAYS, HAS A TRUST PROBLEM.

很多方法，有信任問題。

AND THERE'S A LACK OF TRUST IN INSTITUTIONS, IN THE PRESIDENT,

而且缺乏對機構的信任，對總統的信任。

IN EACH OTHER.

在其他方面：

WHY IS TRUST OUR BEST CHANCE GOING FORWARD?

為什麼信任是我們前進的最佳機會？

>> YOU KNOW, WELL, LIVES DEPEND ON TRUST.

>> 你知道，好的，取決於信任。

JUST THINK ABOUT THE PANDEMIC, RIGHT.

想一想潘多拉的事，對吧。

IF PEOPLE COULD TRUST THAT WE LIVE IN THE SAME REALITY AND

如果人們能夠相信我們生活在同一個現實世界裡，並且

WE'RE WILLING TO TRUST THE ADVICE OF SCIENTISTS AND

我們願意相信科學家們的建議，也願意相信他們的意見。

DOCTORS, AND IF WE HAD A TRUSTWORTHY PRESIDENT REMINDING

醫生，如果我們有一個值得信賴的主席提醒

US TO TRUST THAT GUIDANCE, SO MANY LIVES COULD BE SAVED.

我們要相信這個指導，所以很多人的生命可以得到拯救。

AND THAT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT WHEN A VACCINE COMES THROUGH,

而這更重要的是，當一個疫苗通過。

GIVEN THE SHOCKING PROPORTION OF AMERICANS WHO SAY THEY'RE NOT

鑑於美國人說自己不是的比例令人震驚

EVEN SURE THEY WOULD GET ONE.

甚至確信他們會得到一個。

CLIMATE CHANGE IS GOING TO REQUIRE US TO BUILD A LEVEL OF

氣候變化將要求我們建立起一個高水平的環境。

TRUST AND COOPERATION WITH OTHER COUNTRIES.

與其他國家的信任與合作。

AND, AGAIN, TRUST EXPERTS TELLING US SOMETIMES BAD NEWS.

而且，又一次，相信專家告訴我們有時是壞消息。

OUR ENTIRE POLITICAL SYSTEM IS BASED ON TRUST.

我們的整個政治體系都是建立在信任的基礎上的。

THAT'S WHAT AN ELECTION IS, AN EXCHANGE OF TRUST BETWEEN WE,

這就是選舉的意義，我們之間的信任交換。

THE PEOPLE, WHO ARE TRUSTED TO PICK OUR OWN LEADERS SOMETHING

受託挑選我們自己的領導人的人民。

THAT WAS A PRETTY RADICAL IDEA AT THE TIME OF THE FOUNDING, AND

那是一個非常狂熱的想法，在成立的時候，而且。

WE WHO TRUST OUR LEADERS TO HAVE OUR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART.

我們相信我們的領導人會將我們的利益放在首位。

AND THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, THE MORE I FIND OUR MOST BASIC

我越想越覺得我們最基本的是

INTERACTIONS, GETTING THROUGH LIFE, MAKING A PURCHASE, WALKING

交往, 穿越生活, 購買, 行走, 漫步

DOWN THE STREET TO OUR POLITICAL PROCESSES, WE ARE TRUSTING

在我們的政治進程中，我們是信任的。

STRANGERS WITH OUR LIVES ALL THE TIME.

陌生人與我們的生活總是。

BUT THERE'S BEEN A COLLAPSE IN THE LEVEL OF TRUST THAT

但信任度已經崩潰了

AMERICANS HAVE.

美國人有：

IF YOU LOOK AT SURVEY DATA OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS, THE NUMBER OF

如果你看一下過去50年的調查數據，你就會發現，在過去的50年裡。

PEOPLE WHEN SAY THEY TRUST THE GOVERNMENT TO DO THE RIGHT

當人們說他們相信政府會做正確的事情時。

THING-- THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO SAY YOU CAN TRUST OTHER PEOPLE

TO DO THE RIGHT THING HAS PLUMMETED.

做正確的事，已經是水到渠成。

WE HAVE GOT TO CHANGE THIS IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT, IF WE'RE

我們必須改變這一點，如果我們要做到這一點，如果我們是

GOING TO TURN THE TIDE AND HAVE THE 2020s BE A BETTER DECADE

要扭轉頹勢，讓2020年代成為一個更好的十年。

FOR AMERICA.

為美國。

I THINK WE CAN.

我想我們可以。

I WROTE SOME OF THE WAYS TRUST CAN BE BUILT IN A HURRY --

我寫了一些在匆忙中建立信任的方法 -- -- 匆忙中建立信任的方法

>> Stephen: MR. MAYOR, I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF.

>> 市長先生，很抱歉打斷你的發言。市長，很抱歉打斷你的發言。

I REALLY HAVE TO GO TO A HARD BREAK RIGHT NOW.

我現在真的要去狠狠地休息一下了。

I'M SO SORRY TO DO THAT.

我很抱歉這樣做。

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

謝謝你來這裡。

THE BOOK IS "TRUST: AMERICA'S BEST CHANCE."

這本書是《信任：美國最好的機會》。

IT'S AVAILABLE NOW.

現在就有了。

MAYOR PETE BUTTIGEIG, EVERYBODY.

市長佩特-布提格，大家好。

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH "MEANWHILE."

我們會馬上回來與 "meanwhile"。

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

謝謝你，先生。市長：很抱歉