Name: IR35和新的挑戰。TAXtalk 2018年6月 (IR35 and new challenges: TAXtalk June 2018)
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Hello and welcome to June's addition off tax talk.

My name is Sarah Ghaffari, and I'm a technical manager in the tax faculty.

On with Me Today I have Frank ask you drink head of tax on.

Jill is chairman of our Partition of Tax Committee on She's also tax partner actor MGR.

Weston K, which is a firm of chartered accountants based in London.

So it's lovely to have you Thank you for coming in to see a pleasure.

We've got lots of things to talk about today.

It's been a busy month for tax, but also been quite busy for the tax faculty itself.

We have from wrong shark who's a decorative chairman who's of three.

Benny Worth has come back as a vice chairman.

Toe particular member service is So that's how you tax on dhe.

I'm sure everybody knows this, but we also have a tax.

Former chairman of the tax man Lachlan has got the top job off the ice.

Twitter profiles last Actually, Andi Yes, he said, it's the biggest day of my professional career.

Sick of things did seem to think this morning.

Okay, with a little bit more on the tax taxi later Because we've also got a new website to tell you about.

But aunt attacks, we thought First of all, we just touch on the sort of long awaited consultation off payroll working in the private sector which was published on the 18th of May Onda.

We are looking for comments from members which are given on the 10th of August.

So the government's looking at how to tackle non compliance in the private sector, something that they have, I suppose, struggled to really get a grip off in the last few years or so.

We know that they've been reformed in the public sector and so that's one of the options is to extend those rules.

But there's a couple of other options as well in the consultation additional record keeping for engages and also more due diligence work before the work starts and ensuring that you've secured your supply chain Your labor supply chain, both of which, to me, seems quite a lot of extra administration and practically maybe unlikely.

You think the chances although they might go down those because they almost like afterthoughts.

Yeah, and in the consultation document, it does say government preferred option is to extend it.

I think we would agree that you can't have separate rules for public sector and private sector, but we really need the public sector rules to be working.

General, you've had a few e mails and inquiries on this.

Yes, Yes, I've bean helping a client who is a TV presenter.

Um, on DDE, he is covered by the, uh well, the revenue, trying to say that he's coming by our 35.

And so I've bean heavily engaged in some discussions with the revenue which the three immense resources out.

Two guys flew down from Glasgow for an interview with the kind They then flew down a different day to interview one of the TV companies he works for on.

I think they came down to another TV company as well.

And they the guys who came down it down, didn't see not au fait with the nuances of status rules.

And so we've been talking a little bit about the tool on the website check Employment Status Tool.

Yes, you go through a series of questions.

Don't Unit spits out whether you are employed yourself employment and finding well, I've never actually used it.

I've talked to people because they say the BBC are covered.

And so I have a chapped with people from BBC about how they're finding.

I know they're really struggling with it because they know tax on.

It's It looks like it's been designed by committee on.

People have shoehorned in things, but they, you know, you might be able to say yes or no to a question.

But then they add a little bit text, which means it actually really on.

You don't have the option of saying none of these apply.

So you're Dragoon, your led down a pathway which may not be right.

So if they try and force you to use that tool and that is, well, it's just roam.

I tried putting in some examples of cunts who I know are definitely self employed, and it just came out at the end with We can't determine your status contractors.

So I don't think the revenue will have the resources.

If they wheel it out to everybody, they won't have the resources to look at this.

I have been a few round tables with very professional bodies or business groups on DSO one already.

It seems as though HMRC aren't aware of the issues with the tool and they are asking for evidence, evidence, evidence.

So really, you know, we we need to get evidence in, and that's when you know our listeners and our members are really valuable because they will have that practical evidence.

But the thing is that I was admittedly looking at it on my iPad, but you can't print off all of your answers to review all in one go, you seem to be able to do it just by page, which isn't what they normally do anyway.

But, you know, that way you can say yes and you can't print off the answer.

You know the questions so you can't see well, whether you want Susie.

Frank were writing a letter with drafting a letter.

At the moment, aren't we about all of the public sector nuances?

Do you want to just touch on a couple of the others?

We've had the accounting, the accounting for the I.

35 which I know I've been working on a lot with you, but we've that's got a little bit further now, hasn't it?

What we've raised it with how financial reporting faculty and also without you.

Marcie, there's obviously been concerned about If, actually should you do it, that's all gross And the compass accounts and hmrc guidance at the moment is saying the net approach.

So I think we clearly need to resolve that with the Farsi so that those conversations owns, as I understand it to still ongoing, Yes, but hopefully that guidance will be that effectively, I think consistency of approach potentially gross or net either Could do.

I think that, you know, we'll see what support support that.

And then just linking this back because we're talking about a specific part of the employment issues.

I suppose we're just looking at the i r 35 PFCs and that sort of thing.

Haven't we have the whole employment rights and on tape, I mean, the tailor review, of course, was published July last year on the government responded to it in February on, then launched four consultations of their own.

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