Vicky is someone who's in the pharmaceutical field.

She was looking for her next new challenging position.

She's trying to veer into a different path.

And once we started working together through the Senate, get hard program, she was able to eventually achieve her dream position.

And she's here to share with you exactly what she did and how she did it.

So, Vicky, thank you so much for joining me here today.

Hi, Linda.

Thanks for having me.

Yes, of course.

So, Vicky, let's just jump right into it. 00:00:53.560 --> 00:01:2.650 Why don't you share with the audience your story in terms of, you know, where were you at when you were first looking for that next new job? 00:01:2.740 --> 00:01:3.890 What were you doing? 00:01:3.890 --> 00:01:5.750 And how was your job search going? 00:01:6.140 --> 00:01:6.700 Sure. 00:01:6.710 --> 00:01:9.620 So start off with a little bit of background information. 00:01:9.630 --> 00:01:19.110 I graduated in 2018 from pharmacy school, got my doctor of pharmacy degree and write out school.

I obtained a position in a regular retail community setting.

That wasn't what I wanted to be in, but as a fresh graduate, it's really difficult to find a position.

So that's the job that I've taken just to be more work, experience and then so I can look for new opportunities as I came or experience before I talk to you. 00:01:42.170 --> 00:02:1.930 I was in a place where I I felt like I was doing everything I can to apply for jobs, looking for jobs, going interviews, and I was getting some interviews, but I never got to offer, and I got to a point where I was just really frustrated with myself. 00:02:1.930 --> 00:02:7.740 I didn't know what else I needed to do, and at some point I was starting to question Is that me? 00:02:7.740 --> 00:02:13.760 Am I not good enough as a new grad to compete with these other experience?

I guess experts or individuals to get these positions I wanted, and then I reach out to you and then ah, the rest is history and I'm here.

Okay, that's amazing.

So let's talk a little bit more Vicky about what was going on when you realize that you wanted to make that switch so you started applying for jobs, so you were in the pharmaceutical retail setting.

So just like if I went into a pharmacy at, you know, at a grocery store, you were one of those people that would would have been there to help me.

So you wanted to switch into a bit of a different path.

What did you notice?

You were applying for jobs?

What was happening?

How many jobs did you apply for?

Did you get any interviews? 00:02:52.900 --> 00:03:0.250 What We're employer saying to you, Yeah, so there are many different areas and pharmacy, and then it's very specific. 00:03:0.240 --> 00:03:17.500 The area I wasn't called retail, even though the skill sets, it's essentially, you can transfer that skill set to a different job that's a little bit different from the retail setting, but it's just on paper because there are so many technical terms, it's kind of hard to get noticed.

So that was issue Number one issue number two was I e.

Just constantly had this thing in my head telling me that I'm nice experience.

I'm not exactly what they're looking for, because in the job descriptions, they specifically list things that they're looking for.

And as I'm reading through some of those.

I was just thinking, I'm never going to get this job because I don't even know what that is.

So there is there some the biggest challenges that I can recall that I had And it just with such of, ah, mental struggle at the time before I reach out to you. 00:03:53.800 --> 00:04:1.010 And how many jobs did apply at 10 or 20 I was being selective because I knew what area I wanted to go in. 00:04:1.010 --> 00:04:7.720 I didn't want to just cast my net wide and apply for anything because I had to go in my head. 00:04:8.060 --> 00:04:9.960 Um, so is being a selective. 00:04:9.970 --> 00:04:16.070 My probably got maybe 45 interviews and no offers.

Right?

Okay, so one of the biggest things you mentioned, I think this is something that a lot of people can relate with is the feeling that when they want to make a bit of a career switch into a slightly different path using their skills and knowledge, they feel that they don't have enough experience.

So you felt inexperienced in having only worked a couple of years.

Okay, so when you applied for these jobs and you got these interviews, how did those interviews go.

How?

You know, you would be sitting in front of the hiring manager.

They were asking you questions.

How did you feel?

How were your answers?

Did you feel good?

What was that process like?

Oh, my gosh.

Looking back, I was so nervous.

I recall during one of the interviews I was trembling. 00:04:58.840 --> 00:05:5.010 Actually, I was shaking because I was so nervous because the whole time in my head I was just telling myself, Don't mess up. 00:05:5.010 --> 00:05:8.190 Don't say anything that make you look in experience. 00:05:8.200 --> 00:05:13.690 And I guess in the back of my mind, I'm basically telling myself I'm not good enough.

I'm just putting up a front thio.

Tell them that please hire me kind of mentality.

So, yes, I was very nervous.

It was an interesting experience.

Yeah, So when you're nervous and this happens to a lot of people, when you're nervous, you end up rambling or you end up freezing up.

What was your kind of reaction?

Was it both or one or the other?

I stuttered a little bit.

Um I try to not to use a cz much.

Sometimes you just naturally do that when you speak.

But I think because I was so nervous.

It sounded like I was doing more arms and us than I normally would.

But now I look back.

I actually don't know how many, um, than I did during my interview. 00:05:57.080 --> 00:06:2.440 But if I feel like it, that a lot, I probably Yeah, right. 00:06:2.440 --> 00:06:5.210 So you just didn't feel confident in your eye injuries. 00:06:5.500 --> 00:06:10.790 Okay, so then let's talk about once you decided to make that decision to reach out to me.

What kind of sparked that desire for you to reach out to a career coach like myself and to get that extra help?

Yes.

Oh, Before graduating, I was actually preparing for a kind of a postdoctoral type of position.

I really needed help in preparing interviews because it's extremely competitive process for all the other pharmacists out there or pharmacy students out there.

They know exactly what I'm talking about.

School.

They teach you all these wonderful knowledge, but they don't teach you some of these essential skills in the real world s o.

I was looking for something that's gonna help me stand out.

You can have, you know, wonderful GP exceptional CV. 00:06:56.710 --> 00:07:2.050 Just look great on paper, But If you walk in and you don't know how to present yourself, it's game over. 00:07:2.470 --> 00:07:8.150 So I wanted Thio do some homework on my own to help myself stand out. 00:07:8.540 --> 00:07:15.970 So I was following her YouTube videos initially and actually signed up for your top notch resume course to help me.

Taylor, my resume a little bit more away from the clinical aside.

So I knew that my resume, a CVI is gonna look different from the rest of my classmates.

So I needed a little bit more assistance in that department.

Okay, that's great.

So then you signed up for the top notch resume program and then eventually you decided to sign up for stand up, get hard, the one on one coaching program.

So let's talk about that.

So we started working together.

I know that there was a huge change in how you progress and how you developed over the course of the program.

But why don't you tell the audience a bit about your experience with the one on one coaching program?

Stand up, Get hired? 00:07:56.440 --> 00:08:9.550 Yeah, I think the biggest improvement, The biggest change I personally you noticed is the mental health aspect because I was at a place where I just felt I wasn't good enough even though I know I am.

But it was just because I wasn't seeing the results.

I wanted Thio and it was messing with my head, making me feel like I wasn't good enough with these jobs.

But if you really break down or you helped me see, that is your breakdown, the skills.

And I helped me realize that these air nothing that I haven't been exposed to or ah, have the skill set that I can transfer to this position.

It's Alba how to present yourself to thieves, potential employers and make them understand that you are a viable candidate.

So that was the biggest change.

And then as a result, confidence came back.

I feel much more confident and happier, just more positive.

A recall. 00:08:53.140 --> 00:09:2.350 I used to get really upset over small things just because, you know, on the back of my mind, I'm always just feeling like, you know, I'm not where I need to be. 00:09:2.350 --> 00:09:5.250 I'm not good enough all that awful stuff. 00:09:5.640 --> 00:09:6.050 Yep. 00:09:7.040 --> 00:09:8.590 Yeah, No, I understand that. 00:09:8.590 --> 00:09:11.740 And, you know, that's not like you're not weird for feeling that way.

I think that's naturally.

How people feel is once you start applying you first, you're very optimistic.

You think that Oh, it shouldn't be that hard for me to find something.

And I think everyone feels that way when they first start looking for their next position.

And then when they realize that they're getting rejected or they're not getting the results that they want.

Of course, that impacts your confidence.

And of course, that impacts how you feel about yourself.

So that makes total sense.

And I'm so glad that that shifted for you that now you you clearly you look different.

You, you sound different.

You know, you're projecting yourself in a much more confident way, and I feel like it's completely authentic to you and what you were able to do the whole time.

It's just bringing that out.

So let's talk about your results.

So you work through the program. 00:09:57.810 --> 00:10:5.660 I taught you all the skills in terms of resume interviews, job search strategy, all those things s So what ended up happening? 00:10:5.690 --> 00:10:6.140 Yeah. 00:10:6.150 --> 00:10:18.780 So after, under your understanding of how the whole process work and all Thio create this perfect resume and a halt to present yourself in employers, actually, right after our sessions.

It was the first position I applied Thio.

It was in the position I I was hoping for, but I just want to try it out and see where it goes.

I actually got an email.

I believe it was a week later asking me to come in for an interview.

I was really surprised because that was the first job I applied to after our coaching sessions.

I remember I was really excited.

I share that with you.

I went in for the interview in a week or two.

Later, I got offered the position.

This is not a position that I'm currently in, but it was a great confidence booster for me and a validation that I am somebody employer is seeking. 00:10:59.710 --> 00:11:2.780 I can do exactly what they want me to dio. 00:11:2.790 --> 00:11:8.250 The position was a little bit different from the retail setting, so that really confirmed that. 00:11:8.240 --> 00:11:9.690 You know, Vicky, you can do this. 00:11:9.690 --> 00:11:12.050 Can you reach your dreams and reach your goal?

Oh, so that was That was a great That's awesome.

Yes.

So you got out of retail forms.

Who's got into this?

Sort of I would say, That's kind of like an intermediate role and that was your stepping stone.

And then what happened after that?

Yeah, it wasn't too long after I started at that position.

I sought this job posting this company that I have been wanting to work for.

Ah, funny story.

Prior to starting our coaching sessions, I actually interview with them at the time.

It didn't get that position when I was really bummed out.

And then So since then, I've been keeping an eye on their career website and not too long after I started the previous position I mentioned I went on their career website just casually looking, and I sought this job posting. 00:11:59.860 --> 00:12:3.580 And then I immediately applied. 00:12:3.650 --> 00:12:8.380 And then I got the interview, Um, and then the rest is history. 00:12:8.380 --> 00:12:13.750 And now I'm currently working for that company that I've been trying to work for for a while.

That is so good.

I mean, you know, I think that gives hope to a lot of people, too, because some people may be in the last few months they've applied to a company, and they got rejected.

But you you're a clear example that you can apply and get rejected, but then apply again in a new way, using a different approach and get the job.

Yes.

So that was you?

Yes, and I also want to add that even though I was super bummed previously, I didn't get the position.

It's really important to leave it on a good note, even though at the time I was, I felt so rejected.

I just felt like they didn't like me.

And there must be something wrong with myself, just all these negative thoughts. 00:12:57.630 --> 00:13:2.250 But I at the time I decided to because I want to work for this company very much. 00:13:2.780 --> 00:13:6.600 I left on a good note by asking them for positive feedback. 00:13:6.760 --> 00:13:9.510 Asked them to stay in touch. 00:13:9.690 --> 00:13:21.750 So this time, when I applied rather than just waiting, I directly reach out to the person that interview with and then kind of just sent an email to say hi to reconnect.

And then this time I was able to present myself in the different way, much more confident, and I knew how to professionally convince them that I am what you're looking for.

Amazing.

That's so good.

So you ended up getting two job offers shortly after completing the standard get hard program.

So I want to ask you this is what would you say to the audience?

Who is wondering about signing up and working with a career coach like myself, signing up for the standard get hard program, someone who's looking for a new job.

They want to make a career switch, and they're not sure whether it's the right thing to do.

What would you say to them?

First things first when you make that transition is definitely going to be intimidating because it's a new feel that you're trying to get in There is that possibility that you know you may not get there right away or all these all knows that can make somebody feel, I guess, insecure.

But investment in yourself is extremely important.

Um, e know that coaching program has a price tag, but I do believe that it's a good thing to invest in yourself because the skills I've learned through our coaching sessions, there's something that I can take away.

I was able to carry that through two different job positions that apply to I don't believe that, um, I need a constant guidance after the coaching session because I have already absorbed what it was taught. 00:14:53.990 --> 00:15:2.590 So I was able to utilize what I learned and transfer that to my current job position when I was interviewing. 00:15:2.820 --> 00:15:6.250 So I definitely think its investment in yourself. 00:15:6.250 --> 00:15:16.550 And then in the long run, you can take these skills, um, and other endeavors, not just job applications, but also in other areas, professionally as well.

Amazing.

That's so great.

Thank you for sharing that.

Yeah.

What I like to tell people is, you know, once you take the program's standout get hard, you're gonna learn the skills, Justus, if you learned if you went to driving school, you learn how to drive one time in your life for a short period of time, and then you take those skills and you know how to drive for the rest of your life.

Pretty much so.

It's the same thing.

A lot of people aren't taught how to interview while they're not taught how to sell themselves how to prepare their resumes in the right way.

All those things, and but once you learned them, you'll know how to do them forever.

I you know I don't have to go back to you to teach you that you already know it.

Now you can use those skills for yourself and carry them forward to the to the end of your career.