Back on the show is resurging.

You have C lightweight Frank the crank.

Camacho.

What's going on, Frank?

Well, it's so it's up to you, man.

Just hanging out.

Just finished.

Ah, special cardio And just hear chilling in the gym and then, uh, in California.

So I'm not I'm not communicating with you in the same time zone or sort of It's nighttime here, and I know it's partly morty time in, uh, where you're at, right?

Yeah, definitely.

It's Ah, almost news.

Almost noon.

Oh, shit.

Okay, all right.

Before we get into all that, you know UFC stuff Let's talk about your recent title fight versus Kaylie Cruz.

You're finishing the third round, you know?

What do you think about the legal shots you took to the crotch in that fight?

It was It was, uh what was it?

It was Joe Soto.

It's ah, something something.

Soto and Keith Hang Seng.

Joe Son Joe Son Keith Hackney Man, it brought me back to those days, but a minute it was corporal had opportunity.

Thio hang out with the kid man.

Great kid.

Dude, we can actually funny a crazy story is, uh, the first training session we had His parents were kind of worried that he was gonna can I, like, freak out?

Because he's not used to being around a lot of ah ah, Lot of like people are like loud noises and you and the genders people lifting weights and training.

Whatever, man.

He just totally rose to the occasion.

And it was totally his element.

And there was It was so cool, man.

And and he's such a great kid.

Both.

Like, uh, anything.

He, uh he made my day, you know, like just with the energy that he brought and everything he was, he was so great.

Yeah, man, it was Ah, I thought it was a great video that you guys made a great opportunity for.

Ah, Caleb to just a moment in his life.

You know where he was?

The star of the show.

It was Ah, and and in the beginning of the video is so funny that he was like talking about you.

And you're standing next to him.

I was You have brakes going down.

I'm going to take him out of him like No, I'm not.

You want to be talking about a bounty later.

What?

He was spent, he stuck to the narrative and those great bro.

So they're still crazy, because when I first met him, when I first met Caleb, it was I was just paying my power bill and and, uh, his sister came up to me.

I think where his dad was a man, my son or my brother is a really huge fan.

He really wants me in the med.

Um, Emma do from there.

From then on, you could tell this kid just had that charisma.

You know, like, I just remembered that day.

He was saying, You know, one of these days, I'm gonna fight you, and I'm like, whoa, did this this guy like, you know, and it's crazy because he put his mind to it, And we we we had a date, and we went at it for three rounds.

It was man, it was so cool.

So inspiring, man.

What a great kid.

And then, uh oh, the video.

The video that we made for him off him training.

I was like, You know it.

I want to make him a train.

Are a little like highlight training.

Real, you know, So I heard I heard from his mom and his dad that he was showing like the bus driver he was showing on his friends.

I feel like I would break so that it was It's just one of those things that make you so thankful t b in the business insurance.

I think that, you know, a lot of times that these stories kind of get looked over.

You know, that's what I like to bring it up in the interviews is because, you know, it's just at the beginning where people first click it in their lives listening to what's going on, you know, and gas is the first thing they will listen to.

And it's great to kind of give that exposure to K Live and to you know what you're doing because I know that that's just a little snippet of what you do on the islands for people.

So, you know, I'm really happy to talk about that.

A man thinking thank you brokers.

Ah, you know, and it's all the fighters out there or you gonna make athletes or whatever.

Men really use it as a platform, you know, use this stardom or this Attention extra attention, you know, use it as a platform to do something good.

You know, for me growing up, I never really had that actually coming, you know, coming to the schools and pocket all the kids, you know?

So I feel like it's like my duty to do that, you know?

I mean, and it's great.

And it's your meeting.

All the degree people on the ways is awesome.

Show him.

Now, let's get back to USC career.

So you are.

Well, before we get into that, everyone, everyone that was commenting later.

Oh, Frank, you're going down there now.

You know who, like you guys are true fans or not every little Alice.

Just super underdog.

Everyone wanted me to lose.

It was crazy.

Well, I didn't even realize that.

Well, you know, you went in there, man.

And, uh, e wanted to kind of over that performance you had in stock home.

You you seem like you were in, like, this flow state.

I've never seen you in this from, you know, like it's like, is you know, like how Michael Jordan talks about He's in the zone and you can't miss a shot.

It kind of Yeah, kind of felt that way.

When I was watching you fight, you felt like you're It was just so smooth.

What was going on?

Did you feel that way?

Yeah, I did.

You know, it was I was I was very, uh I was not tunnel vision, but I was I was very open, but very, very methodical, you know, like like the flow state.

Like I was I just had my game plan, but that we've been working here Tim Oyama with court drama and Alex and the team.

And I just went out there and I just did my job, bro.

You know, like, I had things that I needed to do, and I just went in and I did it.

And if anything, it made to look a counter in or whatever when I was Let's just say when I went in there, I was, uh I was, uh, thinking fighter.

You know, I didn't just go in there and just fight and you could tell, Like in the second in the after the first round, Coach Colin was like, Hey, we're not remember.

We're not gonna brought man.

We're not going to brawls.

Okay?

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

You know.

So we had different things that we were saying.

That he would say in the corner that would keep me from brawling and to stick to the game plan, you know?

But I don't feel good.

I was like, Wow, this.

I could have made this fight so much harder.

It definitely men.

We'll split second decisions.

You know, that that effects every fight.

And you made the right decisions, especially with the help of your corner.

Kind of giving you those instructions out loud and and kicking you back into gear.

That was your first finish into UFC.

You know, I think a lot of people don't realize that because even in easy fights, right?

Yeah, you know, And I always wanted to get my finish.

You know, like, uh, yeah, of course, the W right.

But the problem was just getting a WC the anxiety of the judges.

You just never know, you know?

I mean, men, you just never know.

But I mean there to finish fights.

And and I think that's that's where the final night of have come along because I just go in there and buy none of my mouthpiece, And it kind of just finished, guys, you know, And, uh, that's not the case with with with the level in the U.

S.

Cement the kinds of good everyone's tough, everyone strong, everyone's fast.

But now who's the thinker who's smarter in there?

And I'm so glad that people are able to recognize that my last night, you know, 50 k is always good Thio bank account.

All right, but a performance that elevates your status in division is much better.

Do you agree?

I meant 100% you know, at the end of the demon.

And I'm a martial artist and I'm a competitors.

Uh, you know, man entertainer minimum.

You know, I don't really have the nicest dance moves.

You know, I don't really have the cool the cool one liners.

You know, like, uh, I'm going there and I'm gonna perform and I display my art the best that I can.

No more sharpness.

And I'm a fighter.

When you heard that Nick Hein was retiring from Emma Mae and you were the last guy you shared the cage with?

What was your reaction to that news?

Men out on sales?

I was very honored, you know, like, um, honored to have shared the cage of him his last his last time, You know, I'm sure.

I'm sure.

My Because I fought him and and because of this loss that I'm sure that wasn't the reason that I know for sure that he had he had been in this mind.

Or maybe it's the last five minutes.

Contractor.

I don't know whatever was, but, uh, I'm so glad that I was able to show the cage with him, you know, um and so funny thing is, I was talking to him on the way at the way are at the winds.

The ceremonial wanes, and ah, had the guy.

The guy has a lot of stuff, you know?

He's He's a handsome, chiseled looking dude.

Uh, he has a lot going on for himself in Germany, you know, many as an actor.

He he was telling me he has a show coming on some type of like, food type of show.

I don't know what kind of show it is, but he has a lot going on for himself.

And, uh, I'm super excited for the next chapter in his career.

His life?

Yeah, man.

I'm glad.

Like a lot of these fighters actually have other things going on in their life, you know?

And, uh, sure, they could monetize and even, like, a lot of you Wonder where Stun gun, Where's, you know, stun gun?

Where is?

Yeah, was no.

What is he doing?

But it was actually one of the same thing.

He's in Korea.

He's a major star now on television like, Well, yeah, TV personality making cash.

And he has his own team that he's going at the same time coaching.

So hey, doesn't need to fight anymore.

You know, He's had a run, I guess, in the UFC.

And it's good to see those types of stories, I believe.

Oh, no, for short men and us, you know, people only see 15 minutes at a time of spiders, right?

But, you know, you know, this is saying, once you've wrestled, everything in life is easier, Easy, you know, and and and I really I think that applies Thio mixed martial arts because men, this is a tough game and gonna have some thick skin and you have to have the desire and the will tow win and keep coming back even though you get knocked out in front of thousands of millions of people.

Uh, and that right there, just that just makes ah makes it easier for for people to be successful.

You know, that work ethic and the discipline that we we gain from my charts.

Now you get to go back to Singapore for your yes place that you major UFC debut.

You know, for someone that has been to that country before, or something that has never been to that country.

What makes that pencil great men The first off Singapore is very special to me because of my US super ana.

And on to that place is streaking.

Have ever been there?

No, I've only heard good things about that place.

Oh, gosh.

It's like the city of the future, bro.

It's like, uh, and and it's crazy because they're the size of ah, it's the same size Is, um, on a look of this guy.

I don't discuss my seal.

Alex spreads.

I do it.

Sorry about that.

Singapore's.

That meant the city of the future.

Like so we were there for three days straight.

Now, uh, we were there for for like a week, and for three days we were trying to find, like, a piece of trash on the ground.

And it was crazy.

I was like, You know, there's This place is so clean.

The land mass is the same size of Guam, but there's no traffic.

It's crazy.

Same lan dresses Guam, but high 0.5 million people in no traffic.

So it's like, uh, definitely stuff in the city of your future.

You know, you didn't call anybody out.

You know, your last fire.

You said that your marriage is gonna take care of all of that.