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  • TONIGHT ON INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII, ONE OF GOVERNOR ABERCROMBIE'S TOP PRIORITIES IS TO

  • GIVE ALL HAWAII'S KEIKI THE CHANCE TO ATTEND PRESCHOOL.

  • AND EARLY LEARNING EXPERTS SAY THAT COULD MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE WHEN IT COMES TO SUCCESS

  • IN SCHOOL AND LIFE. WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO PUT A UNIVERSAL PRESCHOOL

  • PLAN INTO ACTION AND WHAT IS THE PAYOFF FOR OUR INVESTMENT IN EARLY EDUCATION?

  • NOW, LIVE IN OUR STUDIO, OUR HOST, DAN BOYLAN. >>DAN: ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS

  • HAWAI'I. I'M DAN BOYLAN.

  • HAWAI'I IS ONE OF ONLY 11 STATES THAT DOES NOT FUND PRESCHOOL PROGRAMS.

  • CLOSE TO HALF OUR CHILDREN COME TO KINDERGARTEN WITHOUT PRESCHOOL EXPERIENCE.

  • EDUCATORS SAY THOSE KIDS START AT A DISADVANTAGE, DIFFICULT TO OVERCOME.

  • AIDED BY A COALITION OF EARLY LEARNING ADVOCATES, GOVERNOR ABERCROMBIE WANTS TO CHANGE THAT.

  • LAST YEAR, THE STATE PASSED A LAW THAT STARTS TRANSITION FROM CURRENT JUNIOR KINDERGARTEN

  • TO THE ANTICIPATED HAWAI'I PRESCHOOL PROGRAM. THIS YEAR, LEGISLATION IS IN THE WORKS TO

  • MOVE THAT PROCESS ALONG. ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL, PRESIDENT OBAMA ALSO

  • WANTS TO MAKE EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION A PRIORITY.

  • HE'S PROPOSED A FEDERAL STATE PARTNERSHIP TO FUND HIGH QUALITY PRESCHOOL FOR ALL 4 YEAR

  • OLDS. WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS TO OUR KEIKI AND SOCIETY

  • AT LARGE WHEN ALL STUDENTS START SCHOOL BEFORE KINDERGARTEN?

  • TONIGHT WE'LL SPEAK WITH THE GOVERNOR'S TOP EXPERT ON THIS ISSUE AS WELL AS EDUCATORS,

  • ADVOCATES, PARENTS AND POLICYMAKERS. MANY OF YOU HAVE FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH

  • THIS ISSUE AS PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS, EMPLOYERS, TEACHERS AND AS PRESCHOOL VETERANS IN YOUR

  • OWN RIGHT. I NEVER HAD THAT EXPERIENCE.

  • I FEEL BAD. SO WE HOPE YOU WILL CONTRIBUTE YOUR QUESTIONS

  • AND THOUGHTS TONIGHT. IS PRESCHOOL NECESSARY TO PREPARE YOUNG CHILDREN

  • FOR SCHOOL AND BEYOND? WHAT SHOULD THEY LEARN BEFORE KINDERGARTEN

  • AND IS THIS A WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT FOR OUR STATE?

  • YOU CAN JOIN OUR CONVERSATION BY CALLING, E MAILING OR TWEETING YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS

  • FOR OUR GUESTS. THE CONTACT INFORMATION YOU NOW SEE ON YOUR

  • SCREEN WILL BE REPEATED THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM. INSIGHT IS ALSO STREAMING LIVE ON YOUR COMPUTER

  • AND WILL BE POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE AFTER THE BROADCAST.

  • NOW, TO OUR GUESTS. TERRY LOCK IS THE DIRECTOR OF STATE EXECUTIVE

  • OFFICE ON EARLY LEARNING, NEW CABINET LEVEL POSITION IN THE STATE ADMINISTRATION.

  • BEFORE COMING TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, TERRY DIRECTED KAMEHAMEHA SCHOOLS' COMMUNITY BASED

  • EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION DIVISION AND BEFORE THAT, SHE WAS MAUI COUNTY'S EARLY CHILDHOOD

  • COORDINATOR. STATE SENATOR JILL TOKUDA REPRESENTS THE WINDWARD

  • DISTRICT FROM KAILUA TO KANEOHE. SHE IS MAJORITY WHIP AND CHAIRS THE SENATE

  • EDUCATION COMMITEE WHERE SHE PRESIDES OVER HEARINGS ON EARLY EDUCATION BILLS.

  • JILL ALSO SERVED ON VARIOUS EDUCATION RELATED COMMISSIONS AND TASK FORCES.

  • KANOE NAONE IS CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF INPEACE, INSTITUTE FOR NATIVE PACIFIC EDUCATION

  • AND CULTURE. INPEACE PROGRAMS SUCH AS KEIKI STEPS TO KINDERGARTEN

  • SERVE THOUSANDS OF ECONOMICALLY AND EDUCATIONALLY DISADVANTAGED CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

  • KANOE PREVIOUSLY TAUGHT IN THE D.O.E.'S HAWAIIAN IMMERSION PROGRAM AND WORKED WITH THE KEIKI

  • O KA AINA FAMILY LEARNING CENTERS. KEITH VIEIRA IS SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT AND

  • DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR STARWOOD HOTELS AND RESORTS IN HAWAI'I AND FRENCH POLYNESIA.

  • KEITH IS ON THE LEADERSHIP COUNCIL FOR THE BE MY VOICE CAMPAIGN AND TESTIFIED AT THE

  • STATE LEGISLATURE GIVING THE BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE ON THE BENEFITS OF PRESCHOOL.

  • DEBORAH ZYSMAN IS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE GOOD BEGINNINGS ALLIANCE, A NONPROFIT CHILD

  • ADVOCACY GROUP. GOOD BEGINNINGS IS RUNNING THE BE MY VOICE

  • CAMPAIGN TO RAISE PUBLIC AWARENESS ABOUT EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION AND PERSUADE STATE LAWMAKERS

  • TO FUND UNIVERSAL PRESCHOOL FOR ALL 4 YEAR OLDS.

  • LET'S LOOK AT A 30 SECOND PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT PRODUCED THROUGH THE "BE MY VOICE" CAMPAIGN.

  • ¶ ¶

  • >> THE STATE OF HAWAI'I SPENDS NEARLY $50,000 A YEAR ON EACH PRISON INMATE AND ALMOST NOTHING

  • ON OUR PRESCHOOLERS. DON'T IMPRISON OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE.

  • ASK YOUR LEGISLATOR TO FUND PRESCHOOL FOR ALL FOUR YEAR OLDS.

  • YOU CAN CHANGE THEIR FUTURE AT BE MY VOICE HAWAI'I.ORG.

  • >>DAN: DEBORAH, THAT'S A PRETTY SCARY AD. IF WE DON'T HAVE PRESCHOOL FOR OUR KIDS, EARLY

  • EDUCATION PROGRAM, THEY'RE GOING TO END UP IN PRISON?

  • THAT'S KIND OF HARSH. >> IT'S A METAPHORE, BUT WE DID WANT IT TO

  • BE PROVOCATIVE. WHEN WE SET OUT TO DO THIS CAMPAIGN, WE KNEW

  • THAT EARLY EDUCATORS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE FOR A LONG TIME AND SHARING THE

  • RESEARCH AND HOW KIDS REALLY BENEFIT FROM PRESCHOOL WHEN IT SEEMED LIKE NO ONE WAS LISTENING.

  • WE SET OUT TO KIND OF SHAKE PEOPLE AND SAY, CAN THEY PAY ATTENTION.

  • YOU KNOW WHAT? THESE ADS HAVE DONE IT.

  • >>DAN: SHACKLES WILL DO IT EVERY TIME. WHAT'S THE GOOD BEGINNINGS ALLIANCE?

  • >> STATEWIDE NONPROFIT THAT DOES ADVOCACY ON EARLY CHILDHOOD ISSUES.

  • SO HEALTH, SAFETY AND EDUCATION FOR OUR KIDS FROM PRENATAL TO 8.

  • >>DAN: WHEN I THINK ABOUT EARLY EDUCATION AND ELEMENTARY EDUCATION, I WAS AT AN ELEMENTARY

  • SCHOOL THE OTHER DAY, I ASKED THE PRINCIPAL HOW MANY MALE TEACHERS DO YOU HAVE. SHE SAID

  • TWO OUT OF THE ENTIRE SIX GRADES, AND WHY? WELL, THEY LIKE SECONDARY EDUCATION.

  • NOT PRESCHOOL. WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?

  • WHAT DOES BUSINESS HAVE TO DO WITH EARLY EDUCATION? >> TWO BEST PERSPECTIVES ARE VERY IMPORTANT

  • FOR US. FIRST IS WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT.

  • AS LOOKING AT THE KIDS COMING OUT OF COLLEGE OR HIGH SCHOOL AND COMING INTO OUR WORK FORCE,

  • WHETHER IT BE IN THE TOURISM INDUSTRY, OR GENERAL BUSINESS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOW THEY'RE

  • GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND PUTTING THEIR KIDS THROUGH SCHOOL.

  • THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT PRESCHOOL EDUCATION. THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT AT THAT AGE, NOT MAKING

  • MUCH MONEY. SO YOU NEED HELP IN GETTING THEM TO PRESCHOOL.

  • AND WHAT WE HEAR FROM A LOT OF OUR INCOMING MANAGERS IS THAT IN DECIDING BETWEEN THE MAINLAND

  • AND HERE, IF YOU CAN GO TO A STATE THAT HAS FUNDED PRESCHOOL, MAYBE THAT MAY BE THE CHOICE.

  • SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THE WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT IS IMPORTANT.

  • THE OTHER SIDE, BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, IS DOING SOMETHING PROACTIVE FOR ONCE.

  • WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITY AND TAXATION AND THE COST OF LIVING AND EVERYTHING THAT

  • GOES UP, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO BE ABLE TO REIN SOME OF THOSE COSTS IN.

  • HOW ABOUT STARTING EARLY? HOW ABOUT GIVING KIDS THE RIGHT FOUNDATION

  • SO YOU HAVE SOME OF THOSE LESS SCENARIOS THAT YOU SAW IN THE TV ADS REALLY IS ONE OF BEING

  • PROACTIVE AND TRYING TO GET TO THEM EARLY AND GIVING THEM A GOOD START IN LIFE SO THEY

  • CAN BE SUCCESSFUL LATER. >>DAN: MY WIFE AND I WENT TO DINNER THE OTHER

  • NIGHT AND RAN INTO A BUSINESSMAN WHO WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW, KNOWN HIM FOR A WHILE, SOMEHOW

  • HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S COMING UP ON THE SHOW.

  • I SAID EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION. BUSINESSMAN, HE SAYS, IT'S JUST BABYSITTING.

  • HIGH PRICED BABYSITTING. NOW, DO YOU HEAR THAT AMONG BUSINESSMEN?

  • >> NO. I THINK PEOPLE CLEARLY RECOGNIZE TO PUT YOUR

  • KIDS INTO PROFESSIONAL PROGRAMS AND WE HAVE THEM OUT THERE NOW

  • AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS WILLING TO STEP UP AND ASSIST IN THOSE PROGRAMS.

  • BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE KIDS THIS START. YOU HAVE TO GET THEM READY COMING INTO SCHOOL

  • AND YOU HEAR FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE, LET'S FIX K THROUGH 12 FIRST.

  • YOU WANT TO FIX K THROUGH 12, GET THE KIDS COMING IN BETTER PREPARED, BETTER READY SO

  • TEACHERS CAN HAVE MORE SUCCESS WITH THEM. >>DAN: TERRY, YOU CAME HERE LAST TIME AND

  • HAD A DIFFERENT TITLE. NOW YOU'RE A BIG DEAL.

  • YOU WERE JUST A LITTLE DEAL THEN. NOW YOU'RE A BIG DEAL.

  • WHERE DOES THE GOVERNOR COME DOWN? WHAT PRECISELY IS HE PROPOSING?

  • >> WELL, HE'S PROPOSING THAT WE GET KIDS READY FOR SCHOOL.

  • BECAUSE I MENTIONED JUNIOR KINDERGARTEN ED ENDING.

  • THERE'S ALSO THE CHANGE IN KINDERGARTEN AGE. WITH THAT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A NUMBER OF

  • CHILDREN, ABOUT 5,100 CHILDREN WITHOUT SERVICES IN 2014 '15 SCHOOL YEAR.

  • THE GOVERNOR IS PROPOSING THAT WE NEED TO START WITH THAT URGENCY AND BE ABLE TO HAVE

  • PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR CHILDREN. SCHOOL READINESS.

  • SO AND IT WOULD BE EDUCATIONAL, SO I WAS GOING TO SAY, THE QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED KEITH,

  • WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT QUALIFIED STAFF ARE BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THESE PROGRAMS.

  • >>DAN: BUT ISN'T THE PRIVATE SECTOR DOING IT IN A WAY?

  • YOU'VE GOT HOW MANY STUDENTS IN YOUR PROGRAMS? I THINK YOU HAVE 12 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AROUND

  • THE STATE. WE HAVE 8 PROGRAMS AND IN THE EARLY CHILDHOOD

  • SECTOR, WE'VE GOT 700, ANOTHER 600, ROUGHLY A GOOD 1,400 KIDS.

  • BUT THAT'S JUST A SMALL SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION. IT'S REALLY SMALL.

  • IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IN SOME COMMUNITIES, ONLY 20% OF KIDS ARE GOING TO PRESCHOOL.

  • AND SO WHAT ARE THE SLOTS AND WHAT ARE THE PRESCHOOLS OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR

  • THEM? YOU HAVE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT 80% GO, BUT

  • THE STATE AVERAGES ABOUT 60% GO. SO THAT MEANS 40% OF THE POPULATION IS NOT

  • GOING TO PRESCHOOL. SO REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY PRESCHOOL PROVIDERS

  • THERE ARE OUT THERE, THERE STILL ARE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF KIDS THAT AREN'T GETTING SERVICES.

  • >>DAN: WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THIS PROGRAM? WHO'S PAYING FOR YOUR PROGRAM?

  • >> SO OUR FUNDING COMES THROUGH THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

  • SO WE HAVE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR OUR PROGRAM. WE ALSO HAVE SOME PRIVATE FOUNDATION FUNDING.

  • CURRENTLY, INPEACE AND ALL OF OUR 8 PROGRAMS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY STATE FUNDING FOR ANY OF

  • OUR STATE SERVICES >>DAN: SO IT'S FEDERAL AND SOME PRIVATE?

  • >> YES. FEDERAL AND SOME PRIVATE

  • >>DAN: IT TENDS TO BE ALONG THE COAST. OFFICE OF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS IS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL?

  • >> NO. THEY DON'T FUND OUR PRESCHOOL PROGRAMS.

  • AND THEN WE ARE IN NATIVE HAWAIIAN SERVING NATIVE HAWAIIAN HOMESTEAD COMMUNITIES ACROSS

  • THE STATE. >>DAN: NOW, THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD, JILL,

  • IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. IN THAT BUILDING YOU WORK IN.

  • WHAT BILLS LOOK POSSIBLE TO YOU? >> RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THREE BILLS THAT ARE

  • GOING THROUGH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. IT'S THE HOLY TRINITY OF BILLS FOR EARLY LEARNING

  • AND IT IS THE SCHOOL READINESS MEASURE, THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT AND THE EARLY LEARNING

  • MEASURE THAT NEEDS TO PASS. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING

  • ON TO MAKE THIS PUBLICLY FUNDED EARLY LEARNING SYSTEM A REALITY FOR HAWAI'I.

  • RIGHT NOW, THOSE THREE MEASURES HAVE PASSED. THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE AND THE SENATE

  • AND ARE POISED TO CROSS OVER INTO THE HOUSE NEXT WEEK AFTER A FLOOR VOTE IN THE SENATE.

  • OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF POLITICAL WILL FOR BOTH OF HOUSE AND SENATE

  • TO NOT ONLY PASS THOSE 3 PARTICULAR MEASURES TO ALSO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT OF INVESTMENT OF

  • RESOURCES TOWARDS THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY $30 MILLION IN THE FIRST

  • BIENNIUM AND ONGOING FROM THAT POINT FORWARD TO REALLY START TO PHASE THIS UPWARDS.

  • IT'S REALLY AN INVESTMENT THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE.

  • YOU MENTIONED EARLIER WE HAVE PRIVATE PROVIDERS OUT THERE AND THEY'VE BEEN MOVING HAWAI'I

  • FORWARD ALL THOSE YEARS. IF YOU HAVE HAD THE BENEFIT OF PRESCHOOL EDUCATION

  • IN HAWAI'I AT SOME POINT, THE CHANCES ARE YOU'VE HAD IT BECAUSE A PRIVATE PROVIDER HAS

  • BEEN THERE TO GIVE IT TO YOU. WELL, IT'S TIME THAT THE STATE STEP UP, PUT

  • SOME SKIN IN THE GAME AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY WHAT THIS REPRESENTS.

  • >>DAN: CAN THE STATE AFFORD TO PUT THE SKIN IN THE GAME?

  • I MEAN, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF UNCERTAINTY DOWN AT THE LEGISLATURE

  • ABOUT WHERE  I MEAN, CONTRACTS THAT HAVE TO BE REACHED WITH OTHER PUBLIC WORKERS AND

  • WITH THE TEACHERS AND NOW, YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY GOING TO TAKE, IF K THROUGH 12 CONSTITUTES

  • 13 YEARS OF EDUCATION, YOU'RE GOING TO ADD A 14TH YEAR OF EDUCATION.

  • HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR THAT? THAT'S A LOT OF BUCKS, RIGHT?

  • >> YES. IT COSTS MONEY, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT RESOURCES

  • IN THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL, IT'S REALLY TAKING GENERAL FUNDS AND REALLY STARTING THE PROGRAM.

  • AS WE GO TO THE OUT YEARS, INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN, WE WILL HAVE TO FIND THOSE RESOURCES.

  • BUT FOR NOW, I THINK WE CAN SAFELY SAY THAT IT'S THERE.

  • IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PRIORITY AND ABOUT HOW WE THINK ABOUT OUR INVESTMENT.

  • >> I THINK IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PRISON COMMERCIAL, THE REALITY IS WE'RE ALREADY SPENDING A HUGE

  • AMOUNT OF MONEY ON REMEDIATION AND OTHER SOCIAL KINDS OF SERVICES AS A RESULT OF OUR KIDS

  • NOT BEING READY IN THIRD GRADE. THEY BASICALLY SAY THAT PRISON BEDS ARE CREATED

  • BASED ON THIRD GRADE READING SCORES. AND THE LARGEST AND MOST IMPACTFUL WAY TO

  • POSITIVELY IMPACT THIRD GRADE READING SCORES IS EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

  • >> AS I SAY, THERE'S AN EVEN MORE IMMEDIATE RETURN THAT I THINK WE CAN'T AFFORD TO MISS

  • OUT ON. THAT'S ACTUALLY SPECIAL EDUCATION.

  • THE RESEARCH SHOWS KIDS WHO GO AND GET EARLY LEARNING EXPERIENCES ARE LESS LIKELY TO NEED

  • SPECIAL EDUCATION. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS ON THIS

  • TODAY. SPECIAL EDUCATION COSTS FOR THE DEPARTMENT

  • OF EDUCATION ARE ABOUT 40% OF THE D.O.E. BUDGET. THAT'S FOR ABOUT 10% OF OUR KIDS.

  • EVEN IF WE CAN REDUCE THAT A LITTLE BIT, IT'S HUGE COST SAVINGS DOWN THE LINE FOR D.O.E.

  • SO THAT'S A QUICK, YOU LOOK AT LONG TERM RETURNS IN TERMS OF WORK FORCE AND INMATES AND THINGS

  • LIKE THAT. IF WE CAN HELP D.O.E. REDUCE SPECIAL EDUCATION

  • COSTS, WHICH OTHER STATES HAVE SEEN, THAT'S HUGE.

  • I THINK THE OTHER THING FOR US ON THE INVESTMENTS PIECE THOUGH IS THINKING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT

  • AS YOU MENTIONED IN THE OPEN. AND THAT RIGHT NOW, HAWAI'I IS NOT IN A GREAT

  • PLACE TO TAP FEDERAL FUNDS THAT MAY BE COMING OUT IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

  • IF WE'RE ONE OF THE ONLY STATES IN THE NATION WITHOUT ANY KIND OF PROGRAM, WE WILL MISS

  • THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS. SO MY ARGUMENT WOULD BE WE NEED TO FIND THE

  • MONEY THIS YEAR. WE HAVE TO START INVESTING IN THIS.

  • WE CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO. >>DAN: KEITH, I STILL WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT

  • QUESTION ABOUT TAXES. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT TERRY SAYS THAT WE'LL

  • HAVE TO FIND OTHER, GOING TO START WITH GENERAL FUND MONEY AND $30 MILLION, WHATEVER IT IS,

  • OF GENERAL FUND MONEY. BUT ISN'T THERETHEN WE'LL FIND OTHER

  • WAYS. WHAT ARE THE OTHER WAYS?

  • DOESN'T THAT MEAN SOME FEDERAL MONEY? AND DOESN'T IT MEAN PERHAPS RAISING TAXES?

  • PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, SMALL BUSINESS CERTAINLY ALWAYS COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT.

  • >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. SOME OF THIS IS PAYING IT FORWARD.

  • IF WE CAN  THIS TAKES A NUMBER OF YEARS TO GET INTO EFFECT.

  • SO 5500 STUDENTS IN THE FIRST YEAR AND GROWS UNTIL AT SOME POINT, WHEN IT'S ALL 18,000

  • I BELIEVE. PEOPLE FORGET THAT IT'S COFUNDED.

  • IT'S NOT FREE FOR EVERYONE. PEOPLE ARE PAYING A PORTION BY THE AMOUNT

  • THEY EARN. SO THERE IS SKIN IN THE GAME FROM PARENTS

  • ALSO. I WOULD GUESS AT THE END, IT WILL BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 75 AND 80% THAT WOULD BE

  • IN THE PROGRAM. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT AND YOU LOOK AT THE

  • TIME THEY HAVE TO GO IN, I THINK THE D.O.E. CAN GO INTO THEIR BUDGET AND LOOK FOR SOME

  • OF THE SAVINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET DOWN THE ROAD, BUT IT'S A MATTER OF PRIORITY AND

  • WILL. IF WE DON'T START WITH THESE, YOU HAVE PROBLEMS

  • LATER. AND WE'VE BEEN KICKING THAT CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

  • WE'VE GOT TO STEP UP TO IT AND I THINK FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, IT'S ALL ABOUT BEING

  • PROACTIVE AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S THE INVESTMENT TODAY, WHAT'S MY RETURN ON LATER.

  • WE RECOGNIZE THE INVESTMENTS IS MUCH BETTER MADE UP FRONT VERSUS PAYING THE PRICE LATER.

  • >>DAN: THE RESEARCH SHOWS... FINISH THE SENTENCE FOR ME.

  • WHO WANTS TO FINISH TO SENTENCE? RESEARCH SHOWS...

  • >> RESEARCH SHOWS THAT THE INVESTMENT YOU MAKE NOW, FOR EVERY DOLLAR, WE'RE GOING TO

  • BE SAVING ABOUT $4.20 IN THE COST OF SPECIAL EDUCATION, INCARCERATION, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

  • THE OTHER THING IS RESEARCH SHOWS THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE 11 STATES THAT DON'T HAVE A STATE

  • FUNDED PRESCHOOL PROGRAM. SO 39 OTHER STATES HAVE DONE IT.

  • SO THERE'S A WAY TO DO THIS AND IT IS A MATTER OF PRIORITY.

  • >> I THINK IF I MAY ADD TO THAT TOO, THERE'S ACTUAL BENEFIT AS I BROUGHT UP A FEW TIMES

  • OF ACTUALLY BEING ONE OF 11 STATES THAT HAVE NOT PUT A PRESCHOOL PROGRAM IN PLACE

  • IN THE SENSE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY LEARN FROM SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES OUT THERE ACROSS

  • THE COUNTRY SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL AND MAKE THOSE MISTAKES

  • THAT OTHER STATES HAVE MADE. SO TERRY AND HER TEAM, THEY CAN GO OUT AND

  • TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT OTHER STATES HAVE DONE. THE STRATEGIES THAT THEY HAVE TRIED, MATRIX

  • THEY HAVE PUT IN PLACE, ASSESSMENTS, AND THEY CAN TAKE ALL OF THOSE BEST PRACTICES, KNOW

  • WHAT WE KNOW HERE LOCALLY TO BE TRUE AND PUT IN PLACE SOMETHING THAT REALLY WORKS WELL.

  • SO IF THERE IS ANY BENEFIT TO BEING ONE OF LAST IN THE GAME, IT'S THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM

  • THE SUCCESSES AND THE FAILURES OF OTHERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING

  • THEY ARE IN FACT DOING RIGHT NOW >>DAN: YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THE DEFINITION

  • OF WHAT THE RESEARCH SHOWS? >> 85% OF THE BRAIN IS DEVELOPED BEFORE AGE

  • FIVE. THAT IS, 85%.

  • YOU HAVE MISSED THE BOAT IF YOU MISS THAT OPPORTUNITY.

  • >>DAN: I CAN SEE SOME GUY OUT THERE SAYING, WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE FOR 4 YEAR

  • OLDS IN 85%, THAT MEANS YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT ONE FIFTH OF, RIGHT?

  • YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ONE MORE YEAR. SO WHAT ABOUT