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  • - [Narrator] How do you break out of your comfort zone

  • so you can take the right action?

  • The CEO of Kingston Lane and a sought-after keynote speaker,

  • Sharran Srivatsaa.

  • Sharran grew up on the streets of India

  • and was forced to move to America with no money

  • and no connections.

  • Fast-forward to today and Sharran has taken his company,

  • Teles Properties, to 3.4 billion dollars in five years.

  • - And from different, like, software company,

  • how did you went from software to real estate?

  • - Yeah, good question.

  • So, after we sold our software business,

  • I didn't know what to do,

  • so I took some time off.

  • I taught tennis around the world

  • and then I realized that

  • it's hard to get back in, so I went to business school,

  • I got my MBA,

  • and then I was an investment banker at Wall Street.

  • It's very easy once you get your MBA,

  • that was a good feeder program.

  • So I was an investment banker at Goldman Sachs

  • and at Credit Suisse for five years,

  • and my partner and I

  • who, as a mentor,

  • we had invested in a small real estate company

  • that was fledgling, struggling in Beverly Hills.

  • And we came in as a consultant,

  • and then we realized that that small business was,

  • the original founders were going in different directions.

  • So we just served as a consultant and I said,

  • "Wow, there's an amazing opportunity here."

  • The promise is that, exactly what, I said,

  • "I can scale this promise."

  • So I left Wall Street, I quit my job and I said,

  • "I'm gonna come and scale this business."

  • And that's how that transition happened.

  • - I see, I see.

  • And from there, what did you do to scale that from, like,

  • 300 million to 3 billion in, like, five years?

  • - Five years, yeah.

  • - 'Cause real estate, it's a very competitive industry.

  • - Yup, yeah.

  • - There are a lot of competitors,

  • you're working with a lot of agents,

  • a lot of moving parts, right?

  • What are some of the things that you did to scale?

  • - So, we used a, I always tell people, "If we don't have--"

  • The one thing that I've learnt from you

  • is you're really great about saying,

  • "Hey, here's a framework to begin your thinking.

  • "Here's a model to think about."

  • Otherwise you're just saying,

  • "Hey, what's my idea today?" right?

  • So we came up with the 3 Prong Model to scale the business.

  • One was, "Hey, what is our singularity of focus?"

  • When we were a 300-million-dollar company,

  • we could've done a lot better financially.

  • So I looked at the partners and I said, "Hey, if we

  • "could be a 3.4-billion-dollar business,

  • "we all would make an amazing amount,

  • "we'd have amazing lives."

  • And so, everyone is laughing at me, they're like,

  • "How are we gonna do that?

  • "How are we gonna do 10X?"

  • And I said, "Well, it's actually really simple.

  • "We all know that if we get to this number,

  • "it's gonna be a great life."

  • And, generally, the real estate cycle goes in 7-year cycles.

  • Generally speaking.

  • - Right.

  • Every seven years, people buy and sell, yeah.

  • - And every seven years, markets go up and down too.

  • So I said, "Well, if it's 7-year cycles,

  • "we're just getting into the cycle right now.

  • "We need, probably, a year or two

  • "to either sell the business, transition the business, etc.

  • "So take away two years, we have five years."

  • I said, "Hey, guys, if we can hit 3.4 billion in five years,

  • "we're gonna have an amazing life."

  • They just started laughing at me.

  • So it was not,

  • it was not a mathematical plan to grow 10X in five years,

  • it was a dream and a necessity of sorts.

  • And so, that was the vision.

  • And the team got so behind that, Dan, they would say,

  • "Sharran, why are you taking that trip to San Diego?

  • "It doesn't help us 10X.

  • "Sharran, why are you doing this project?"

  • So now the entire company had this filter

  • of 10X and it makes you

  • very disciplined in what you're--

  • - So, there are projects you would say no to.

  • It's like, "That doesn't fit

  • "into our overall vision," right?

  • - Right.

  • - "How 'bout do this?"

  • You get busy, you get excited,

  • you get creative, right? - Sure, we're entrepreneurs.

  • You're like, you wanna do more.

  • - Yeah, new idea every day, but you're like, "No,

  • "we're not gonna do that because--"

  • and the whole team kinda holds each other accountable.

  • - Exactly,

  • and so, that's number two.

  • So, number one is singularity of focus.

  • Number two is our cadence of accountability.

  • We'd realize that we needed,

  • a topic that's near and dear to your and my heart is people,

  • hiring people. - The best people.

  • - How do you hire great people?

  • 'Cause I said, "We're gonna do it organically

  • "without acquiring companies."

  • So we put together this team, 11 managers,

  • called "recruiters", who would recruit

  • sales people to grow our--

  • Like, we recruited, we had 612 sales people

  • to grow our business.

  • That's how we grew.

  • And the cadence of accountability was,

  • and, Dan, it was so simple.

  • Every morning at 9:45, we would do a call.

  • And the call was extremely simple,

  • "How many appointments did I have yesterday?

  • "How many am I committed to having today?"

  • So we would go in order.

  • Dan, "Zero, three."

  • Sharran, "Three, three."

  • Jenny, "Two, two."

  • - So like a morning huddle?

  • - Morning huddle. - That's what I do,

  • yeah it's cool.

  • - But if someone says, "Zero, zero,"

  • they never say "Zero, zero" the next day

  • because that accountability forces them to--

  • And I will tell you, Dan, that was the one thing

  • that changed the nature of our entire business

  • because you had, you'd socialize the accountability

  • and 11 managers would get on every morning

  • and they would say their numbers.

  • - There was a, "Man, zero."

  • - "Zero, zero, zero--"

  • - "What's going on, man?

  • "Like, zero five days straight, something is wrong!"

  • - And you don't even have to say that,

  • what they will say is "Zero, zero,

  • "but, Sharran, I'm on it, I have 14 calls today."

  • So they will self-correct.

  • And just that 15-minute exercise

  • changed the growth of our company.

  • So, the first one was singularity of focus,

  • second one is cadence of accountability,

  • and the third one is

  • I tell the team, "Good process drives good results."

  • It's very easy when your scaling to just hack it.

  • - What was driving the business?

  • Was it to recruit more agents, right?

  • That was mainly it, right? - Yup, that's it, yeah.

  • So we were recruiting agents,

  • we were recruiting great agents that fit the model,

  • fit the culture, so that they could go sell more.

  • - [Dan] Mm, got it.

  • - Yeah, and provide a platform for them,

  • which was the 52 days a year and to sell more.

  • And the last one was this

  • "Good process drives good results,"

  • 'cause we said, "If we're making a promise

  • "on delivering this 52 days a year off,

  • "I still need to deliver that promise.

  • "So we need a process that we can depend on."

  • - Did you use any of the background,

  • the skills that you've accumulated through technology

  • with this business?

  • - Yeah, totally.

  • A lot of the efficiencies that we encountered--

  • - [Dan] Software.

  • - Software.

  • We always say there's three ways to get leverage, right?

  • One, you got people that can help you.

  • Two, you got workflows that can help you.

  • And three, you've got systems that can help you.

  • So we always said, "Hey, what are the people?

  • "What are the workflows?

  • "What are the systems?"

  • And, generally, when you have those three inline

  • and a person leaves, it's okay.

  • You can still backfill.

  • But most people, their infrastructure is their people

  • and it's hard to--

  • - No workflow, no systems.

  • - No workflow, no systems, so I always, whenever I,

  • like the CEOs that you mentor, CEOs that I mentor,

  • I can look at their business and say,

  • "Hey, what's your singularity of focus?

  • "All right, great, what's your cadence of accountability?

  • "Well, let's talk about process."

  • And, generally, with those

  • you can start to figure out where things are broken.

  • - Usually, one of those is not working,

  • two of those are not working.

  • - [Sharran] Yeah, generally, it's

  • two of those are not working.

  • - Makes sense.

  • And through this hyper-growth,

  • 'cause I experience this as well, I want your take on it,

  • when you're growing a company so fast, things break.

  • You have to reinvent things all the time,

  • you have more people.

  • What was it like and what advice

  • would you have for entrepreneurs who are

  • scaling very, very quickly?

  • What are, kind of, the things they have to watch out for?

  • - Yeah.

  • This is more like personal and vulnerable.

  • I honestly thought you could scale your business 10X or 20X,

  • but the rest of your life will stay the same.

  • I don't think you can scale one part of your life.

  • So I thought, "Oh, my family, my health, my relationships,

  • "they're all here but I can scale my business 10X."

  • But no, absolutely not.

  • Everything has to level up and, Dan,

  • the first thing that happened was my health broke down.

  • It got so bad that I could not get out of a hospital bed.

  • I was running the company from a hospital bed

  • and nobody knew.

  • And that was a rude awakening for me that,

  • yes, you can grow 10X, but when you grow something,

  • when you scale something,

  • your entire life has to lift along with it.

  • Your relationship has to get better.

  • Like, my relationship with my wife

  • was very tough at that time

  • because she was like, "Hey, you're not showing up."

  • - "You're not here, you're not around."

  • - "You're not with the children," etc.

  • And I fixed that this time around

  • and brought her into the process,

  • but I honestly thought, "Oh, it's just business,

  • "I can scale it."

  • And when my health broke down, I really realized that--

  • - Relationship.

  • - So, I almost believed that,

  • so the reverse is also true.

  • If you just upgrade one area of your life and you're open,

  • other areas of your life will start to float up

  • because they have to level up with that.

  • And that was a big realization for me,

  • I never knew that before.

  • And now, for you and me to do more,

  • we probably have to be fitter, smarter, stronger,

  • have better capabilities.

  • I just thought I could work hard.

  • And I don't think the "work harder" is smart enough.

  • The second big lesson I learned was

  • being really honest with your true core skillset.

  • - Your strengths.

  • - I brought on a chief operating officer

  • way too late in the game.

  • Way too late, 'cause I thought, "Hey, it's my company,

  • "I run it, who can do it better?

  • "No one can do it as good as me,"

  • and I think a lot of entrepreneurs struggle with that.

  • And the COO that I brought on, he said, "Sharran,"

  • like, I hired a professional COO, and he's so amazing.

  • He's the other side of my coin,

  • very similar to members of your team.

  • He's gonna be my partner for life, he's amazing.

  • And he said, "Sharran, I'm never gonna do it as good as you.

  • "But if I get 90% of the way, that's good.

  • "That means you are not involved at all."

  • And so, that made me really think about,

  • "Hey, how can I go hire some amazing key people?"

  • And treat them as partners.

  • Treat them as partners and say, "Hey, that's Evan's role.

  • "That's Desmond's role."

  • And, "Thank you, if Desmond says 'yes' and Evan says 'yes',

  • "it's good."

  • And that was a huge revelation for me,

  • 'cause I thought that if I knew how to do something,

  • that gave me the credibility.

  • And I had to break that cycle.

  • - And sometimes, like, entrepreneurs, we,

  • a lot of entrepreneurs , we're control freaks, right?

  • They're like, "Oh, this is my baby.

  • "You don't know it.

  • "Let me do it."

  • - (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

  • - It happens a lot, it happens a lot.

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