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  • ANNOUNCER: Now, from CBS 4 News,

  • this is Facing South Florida

  • with Jim Defede.

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  • Good morning, I'm Jim

  • Defede, and welcome

  • to Facing South Florida.

  • Later in the show we'll

  • talk to Broward Sheriff,

  • Gregory Tony, about his efforts

  • to hold deputies accountable

  • when excessive force is alleged.

  • First, with the growing concerns

  • here in the United States about

  • the spread of the Coronavirus,

  • I spoke late last week with

  • Congresswoman Donna Shalala.

  • She has a unique insight, having

  • served eight years as a health

  • and human services

  • secretary during the

  • Clinton administration.

  • I start by asking, how serious

  • of a threat is the Coronavirus?

  • Serious.

  • There's no question that the

  • Coronavirus is here in the

  • United States, and

  • it's going to spread.

  • CDC has told us

  • it's going to spread,

  • and so we have to be prepared,

  • and of course our hospitals have

  • experience both our great

  • public hospital as well as the

  • community hospitals in Miami

  • have experience in isolation and

  • in treating patients.

  • The big challenge is going to be

  • that we're in flu season and our

  • emergency rooms and our beds

  • are going to be occupied by flu

  • patients, and that's a good

  • reason to tell people to go get

  • their flu shots right away,

  • because they don't want to end

  • up in the hospital

  • when we need those beds,

  • most likely for

  • victims of Coronavirus.

  • How prepared do you believe the

  • federal government is to handle

  • this crisis right now?

  • Well, let me say that we have

  • first rate physical scientists

  • leading the efforts at

  • the CDC, at the FDA,

  • at the Public Health

  • Service, at the IH.

  • They're now being coordinated

  • for the first time by the White

  • House, led by the

  • Vice President,

  • and he's just appointed

  • a deputy, Debra Burkes.

  • Colonel Burkes, who holds

  • the rank of Ambassador,

  • has been running

  • the big AIDS program,

  • and she's an immunologist.

  • She is first rate, so

  • I'm very comfortable

  • with who is leading it.

  • The problem is that we have not

  • been giving the resources to all

  • of these agencies, or to

  • local governments and to state

  • governments over a

  • sustained period of time.

  • In fact, we put in resources

  • during emergencies and then we

  • start to cut them when

  • we're not in emergencies,

  • and so our infrastructure

  • constantly has to be rebuilt as

  • we deal with emergencies.

  • Did you ever deal with anything

  • like this on this sort of scale,

  • potentially, while you were in

  • the Clinton administration for

  • those years?

  • Yeah, you know we

  • dealt with SARS with BRS,

  • with the chicken virus,

  • what the Hantavirus,

  • and every single time we were

  • totally dependent on states and

  • on local governments on the

  • training and hospitals of

  • doctors and nurses to both

  • identify the disease and we had

  • to figure out

  • treatments as well as vaccines,

  • but you know we ought to be

  • anticipating this as opposed to,

  • just funding it periodically.

  • And I really cannot

  • criticize this administration,

  • when every administration has

  • been lax in continual funding.

  • JIM: You know it seems as if,

  • even in the midst of the

  • Coronvirus spreading

  • around the world,

  • the President's budget, still

  • had major budget cuts up towards

  • 20% budget cuts

  • for the CDC, NIH.

  • Does that sort of show you a

  • disconnect between how this

  • administration should've been

  • looking forward to this project?

  • Absolutely, but the Congress is

  • not going to put up with that,

  • both Democrats and Republicans

  • have made it very clear that we

  • intend to provide

  • supplemental funding,

  • and we never tended

  • to accept those cuts,

  • but what is even more serious,

  • is the President is saying

  • something different

  • than his scientists.

  • The one thing we have to do

  • is to speak with one voice,

  • and I think the administration

  • is starting to pull it together.

  • I would've put the

  • President in front of a camera,

  • to talk about science, because

  • in his last two appearances,

  • he stepped all over the message

  • and actually gave the American

  • people the impression that this

  • was somehow miraculously miss

  • the United States, and that

  • was the opposite of what the

  • scientists were saying.

  • We must listen to these

  • scientists/physicians.

  • They're world class, and the

  • rest of the world is listening

  • to them, and it's very important

  • that political appointees step

  • out of the way.

  • I never spoke about the science.

  • I always put these

  • physician/scientists in front of

  • me, made sure that they had a

  • clear message that they all

  • agreed on, put them

  • in their white coats,

  • and let them talk to

  • the American people.

  • Now one of the things that you

  • said you have confidence in the

  • number two person that

  • will directly under

  • the Vice President.

  • Do you have confidence

  • in the Vice President,

  • in terms of I know

  • they're not calling him a Czar,

  • but in terms of

  • leading this effort,

  • and also having all the

  • messaging going through

  • the Vice President's office?

  • Are you okay with that.

  • We'll see rather

  • we're all okay with that,

  • but everything's

  • at stake, and Jim,

  • this is a case where I think

  • we should be very careful,

  • not to politicize this.

  • We have to be supportive of

  • both the leaders of the country,

  • but in particular these

  • scientists/physicians that are

  • going to lead us through this.

  • This is not going to

  • end in six months.

  • We're in this for

  • the long fight.

  • We will not have a

  • vaccine for one to two years,

  • which means that we're going

  • to have drugs to treat the

  • patients, we need hospital

  • beds, we need diagnoses test,

  • and we need testing

  • facilities all over the country,

  • so I think this is a time

  • when all Americans ought

  • to pull together.

  • This also points out one of the

  • issues that we have here in the

  • United States, so

  • many of our drugs,

  • the elements of our

  • drugs come from China.

  • That now may be disrupted.

  • Is, does, will this focus do

  • right in attention on where we

  • manufacture drugs, where

  • the drugs are coming from the

  • ingredients, and should we

  • bring more of that home to

  • the United States?

  • Not only to the United States,

  • but maybe to other places,

  • so there are

  • multiple sources, but look,

  • the drug companies, the

  • pharmaceutical industry has

  • never been interested

  • in vaccines.

  • You don't make a lot of

  • money out of vaccines,

  • so we have to use a wide variety

  • of enticements to get them in to

  • the vaccine business.

  • In this case, we'll be doing the

  • vaccine development pretty

  • much ourselves.

  • The distribution will have to

  • be done by the drug companies

  • themselves, but again, we've got

  • to put the resources in place,

  • we've got to make sure we

  • have a national strategy,

  • and more than anything

  • else from my point of view,

  • we have to make sure that

  • states and local governments are

  • properly funded.

  • The Health Commissioner, the

  • Health Department in Miami-Dade,

  • has been underfunded for

  • centuries as far as I can tell.

  • We need to get resources

  • right down to our local sources,

  • and we need to reinforce the

  • resources in our hospitals so

  • that we have the beds, and

  • the personnel to take care

  • of patients.

  • Let me ask you this.

  • We've done it before.

  • Let me ask you to be a

  • media critic for a second.

  • Has the media

  • handled this story well,

  • or have we created more

  • anxiety than should be

  • generated for this?

  • I heard a doctor on one of

  • the TV stations recently,

  • say, we should be more

  • about being on alert

  • and not being anxious.

  • Well, you know it's

  • a delicate balance.

  • You want to tell people the

  • facts and you don't want to lie

  • to them, but you also have to

  • be even-handed to make sure that

  • you're not increasing the

  • anxiety level beyond where it

  • should be at this point in time.

  • That's the importance of

  • the steady hand of these

  • physician/scientists,

  • because they're not excitable.

  • All right, last question

  • that I want to ask you,

  • and then I'll let you go.

  • What practical suggestions

  • would you have for the public to

  • protect themselves?

  • You talked about

  • getting the flu shot.

  • What are other things?

  • I've heard some people

  • say that you should've be

  • shaking hands anymore.

  • Well, let me be clear.

  • The flu shot will not

  • prevent Coronavirus.

  • What it will do is make sure

  • that you don't end up in the

  • hospital or an emergency room in

  • the place of someone that gets

  • sick from Coronavirus.

  • Wash your hands.

  • We're going back

  • down to low tech.

  • Wash your hands,

  • and washing hands,

  • keeping surfaces clean is

  • the only thing that we

  • can do as individuals.

  • If you feel ill, you ought to

  • stay at home and not go to work,

  • but we will have

  • testing devices,

  • and we will have proper

  • guidance out to everyone.

  • Everybody should be

  • looking at the CDC website,

  • but also local public

  • health officials will be issuing

  • warnings and directions.

  • We've got to listen to

  • people that really know

  • what they're doing.

  • Up next, Broward

  • Sheriff, Gregory Tony.

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