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  • HE CAN’T AND WOULDN’T EXONERATE TRUMP ON THE QUESTION OF

  • TRUMP ON THE QUESTION OF OBSTRUCTION.

  • OBSTRUCTION. >> THANK YOU

  • >> THANK YOU SEE YOU AT 4:00 P.M.

  • SEE YOU AT 4:00 P.M. MY

  • MY MAYA WILEY WILL STAY WITH US

  • MAYA WILEY WILL STAY WITH US AND CHRIS MATTHEWS IS JOINING

  • AND CHRIS MATTHEWS IS JOINING US

  • US CHRIS.

  • CHRIS. >> I’VE BEEN WATCHING YOUR GREAT

  • >> I’VE BEEN WATCHING YOUR GREAT COVERAGE

  • COVERAGE I THINK NICOLLE HIT IT ON THE

  • I THINK NICOLLE HIT IT ON THE NAIL A NUMBER OF TIMES

  • NAIL A NUMBER OF TIMES BUT A COUPLE THINGS I HAD THE

  • BUT A COUPLE THINGS I HAD THE LEISURE OF SITTING HERE WATCHING

  • LEISURE OF SITTING HERE WATCHING YOU RATHER THAN JUST -- I’VE

  • YOU RATHER THAN JUST -- I’VE BEEN ABLE TO READ IT OVER AND

  • BEEN ABLE TO READ IT OVER AND OVER

  • OVER THE FIRST THING THAT STRUCK ME

  • THE FIRST THING THAT STRUCK ME WAS THE POLITICAL BRILLIANT OF

  • WAS THE POLITICAL BRILLIANT OF BILL BARR FOUR WEEKS AGO

  • BILL BARR FOUR WEEKS AGO HAD HE SAID THEN WHAT HE CAME

  • HAD HE SAID THEN WHAT HE CAME OUT ON SUNDAY WITH 48 HOURS NO I

  • OUT ON SUNDAY WITH 48 HOURS NO I TO STAY WHAT WAS IN THE REPORT,

  • TO STAY WHAT WAS IN THE REPORT, IF HE HAD COME OUT AND SAID THAT

  • IF HE HAD COME OUT AND SAID THAT I DISAGREED WITH ROBERT MUELLER

  • I DISAGREED WITH ROBERT MUELLER ON OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, THAT

  • ON OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, THAT WORD DISAGREED, IF HE HAD SAID

  • WORD DISAGREED, IF HE HAD SAID THAT THEN FOR THE LAST FOUR

  • THAT THEN FOR THE LAST FOUR WEEKS, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE

  • WEEKS, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE REIGNING HEADLINE OF THE STORY

  • REIGNING HEADLINE OF THE STORY I DISAGREED WITH THE MUELLER

  • I DISAGREED WITH THE MUELLER REPORT ON OBSTRUCTION OF

  • REPORT ON OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

  • JUSTICE. HE DID THAT THIS MORNING AS PART

  • HE DID THAT THIS MORNING AS PART OF A SOFT LANDING HE WAS WHAT WE

  • OF A SOFT LANDING HE WAS WHAT WE CALL ROLLING DISCLOSURE, IN

  • CALL ROLLING DISCLOSURE, IN POLITICS WHERE YOU SOFTEN THE

  • POLITICS WHERE YOU SOFTEN THE BAND LANDING

  • BAND LANDING BAD LANDING.

  • BAD LANDING. WHAT YOU WILL HEAR IN THE ACTUAL

  • WHAT YOU WILL HEAR IN THE ACTUAL MUELLER REPORT IS NOT WHAT I

  • MUELLER REPORT IS NOT WHAT I AGREED WITH.

  • AGREED WITH. I DON’T THINK THAT THERE WAS

  • I DON’T THINK THAT THERE WAS OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE

  • OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE I DON’T LIKE THOSE CASES HE

  • I DON’T LIKE THOSE CASES HE POINTED OUT.

  • POINTED OUT. I FELT THEY WERE WRONG

  • I FELT THEY WERE WRONG SO THAT IS ONE THING

  • SO THAT IS ONE THING THE OTHER THING, TRUMP HAS BEEN

  • THE OTHER THING, TRUMP HAS BEEN INSISTENT ON SAYING I DON’T OWE

  • INSISTENT ON SAYING I DON’T OWE THE RUSSIANS ANYTHING FOR WHAT

  • THE RUSSIANS ANYTHING FOR WHAT THEY DID IN 2016

  • THEY DID IN 2016 I DON’T OWE THEM ANYTHING.

  • I DON’T OWE THEM ANYTHING. WELL, THIS REPORT IS VERY CLEAR

  • WELL, THIS REPORT IS VERY CLEAR THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT

  • THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT INTERFERED IN THE 2016

  • INTERFERED IN THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN

  • PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN SWEEPING AND SYSTEMIC FASHION.

  • SWEEPING AND SYSTEMIC FASHION. AND THEN IT GOES IN TO ALL THE

  • AND THEN IT GOES IN TO ALL THE WAYS, RALLIES, WEBSITE, ALL THE

  • WAYS, RALLIES, WEBSITE, ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DID, THE HACKING,

  • WORK THAT THEY DID, THE HACKING, ALL THE WAYS THAT THEY DID

  • ALL THE WAYS THAT THEY DID INTERFERE.

  • INTERFERE. BARR THIS MORNING OVER AND OVER

  • BARR THIS MORNING OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN HIS STATEMENT SAID

  • AGAIN IN HIS STATEMENT SAID ATTEMPTED TO INTERFERE

  • ATTEMPTED TO INTERFERE EFFORTS TO INTERFERE

  • EFFORTS TO INTERFERE NEVER ONCE -- AND I THINK THIS

  • NEVER ONCE -- AND I THINK THIS WAS PLAYING FOR THE PRESIDENT --

  • WAS PLAYING FOR THE PRESIDENT -- DID HE ADMIT THE STATEMENT IN

  • DID HE ADMIT THE STATEMENT IN THE BOTTOM LINE OF THIS REPORT

  • THE BOTTOM LINE OF THIS REPORT THAT THE RUSSIANS DID IN FACT

  • THAT THE RUSSIANS DID IN FACT INTERFERE WITH THE ELECTIONS

  • INTERFERE WITH THE ELECTIONS I THINK THOSE TWO POINTS, HIDING

  • I THINK THOSE TWO POINTS, HIDING HIS DISAGREEMENT OVER THE

  • HIS DISAGREEMENT OVER THE OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE DECISION,

  • OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE DECISION, AND COVERING UP REALLY FOR THE

  • AND COVERING UP REALLY FOR THE RUSSIAN INTERVENTION, EFFECTIVE

  • RUSSIAN INTERVENTION, EFFECTIVE INTERVENTION IN THE CAMPAIGN,

  • INTERVENTION IN THE CAMPAIGN, TWO BIG POINTS HE SCORED FOR

  • TWO BIG POINTS HE SCORED FOR TRUMP TODAY.

  • TRUMP TODAY. >> AND DON’T FORGET THE NET

  • >> AND DON’T FORGET THE NET EFFECT OF THE FOUR PAGE LETTER

  • EFFECT OF THE FOUR PAGE LETTER ON AN OTHERWISE NEWSLESS SUNDAY

  • ON AN OTHERWISE NEWSLESS SUNDAY AFTERNOON WAS TO GIVE THE

  • AFTERNOON WAS TO GIVE THE PRESIDENT AIR COVER TO CLAIM AS

  • PRESIDENT AIR COVER TO CLAIM AS HE WAS UP UNTIL TODAY TOTAL

  • HE WAS UP UNTIL TODAY TOTAL EXONERATION.

  • EXONERATION. NO COLLUSION

  • NO COLLUSION NO OBSTRUCTION

  • NO OBSTRUCTION >> AND ALONG THOSE LINES, CAN

  • >> AND ALONG THOSE LINES, CAN ANYBODY BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT’S

  • ANYBODY BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT’S RESPONSES, THOSE WRITTEN

  • RESPONSES, THOSE WRITTEN RESPONSES TO THE TAKE HOME EXAM

  • RESPONSES TO THE TAKE HOME EXAM HE WAS GIVEN BY MUELLER?

  • HE WAS GIVEN BY MUELLER? MY GOD, IT WAS LIKE HE HAD

  • MY GOD, IT WAS LIKE HE HAD FAILED AN ALZHEIMER’S COMPETENCY

  • FAILED AN ALZHEIMER’S COMPETENCY TEST

  • TEST 36 TIMES HE SAID I CAN’T

  • 36 TIMES HE SAID I CAN’T REMEMBER

  • REMEMBER I CAN’T REMEMBER

  • I CAN’T REMEMBER I CAN’T REMEMBER

  • I CAN’T REMEMBER WEVE BEEN TALKING IN THE LAST

  • WEVE BEEN TALKING IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS THANKS TO ROBERT

  • COUPLE OF DAYS THANKS TO ROBERT KAISER IN THE "POST" ABOUT WHAT

  • KAISER IN THE "POST" ABOUT WHAT IS TOO OLD TO BE PRESIDENT

  • IS TOO OLD TO BE PRESIDENT MY GOD, IF YOU CAN’T REMEMBER

  • MY GOD, IF YOU CAN’T REMEMBER ANYTHING, IS THAT TO BE

  • ANYTHING, IS THAT TO BE BELIEVED

  • BELIEVED NO

  • NO OF COURSE IT IS NOT TO BE

  • OF COURSE IT IS NOT TO BE BELIEVE.

  • BELIEVE. HE IS COMPETENT TO REMEMBER ALL

  • HE IS COMPETENT TO REMEMBER ALL THOSE INSTANCES BUT IS SOMEHOW

  • THOSE INSTANCES BUT IS SOMEHOW USING THAT AS HIS REFUGE

  • USING THAT AS HIS REFUGE WHAT BOTHERED ME THE MOST IS

  • WHAT BOTHERED ME THE MOST IS ROBERT MUELLER’S REPORT.

  • ROBERT MUELLER’S REPORT. THERE IS SOMETHING IN THERE THAT

  • THERE IS SOMETHING IN THERE THAT IT MAKES MOOT THE WHOLE EFFORT

  • IT MAKES MOOT THE WHOLE EFFORT HE SAYS I CAN’T INDICT A

  • HE SAYS I CAN’T INDICT A PRESIDENT OR I’VE DECIDED NOT TO

  • PRESIDENT OR I’VE DECIDED NOT TO BECAUSE IT WILL CURTAIL HIS

  • BECAUSE IT WILL CURTAIL HIS ABILITY TO BE PRESIDENT.

  • ABILITY TO BE PRESIDENT. THEREFORE I CAN’T ACCUSE BECAUSE

  • THEREFORE I CAN’T ACCUSE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE UNFAIR IT SOMEONE

  • IT WOULD BE UNFAIR IT SOMEONE WHO I CAN’T INDICT TO ACCUSE

  • WHO I CAN’T INDICT TO ACCUSE THEM BECAUSE THEN THEY WOULDN’T

  • THEM BECAUSE THEN THEY WOULDN’T HAVE THE RECOURSE OF A COURT TO

  • HAVE THE RECOURSE OF A COURT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES IN

  • DEFEND THEMSELVES IN SO WHAT WAS HE DOING IF HE CAN’T

  • SO WHAT WAS HE DOING IF HE CAN’T INDICT THE PRESIDENT, HE CAN’T

  • INDICT THE PRESIDENT, HE CAN’T ACCUSE THE PRESIDENT, WELL, OH,

  • ACCUSE THE PRESIDENT, WELL, OH, I CAN’T EXONERATE THE PRESIDENT.

  • I CAN’T EXONERATE THE PRESIDENT. SO HIS VERDICT WAS THAT UNCLEAR

  • SO HIS VERDICT WAS THAT UNCLEAR SORT OF THE OLD SCOTTISH VERDICT

  • SORT OF THE OLD SCOTTISH VERDICT THING UNPROVEN, I CAN’T

  • THING UNPROVEN, I CAN’T EXONERATE HIM.

  • EXONERATE HIM. I THINK THAT IT IS VERY

  • I THINK THAT IT IS VERY UNSATISFACTORY

  • UNSATISFACTORY AND HE THREW THE BALL UP AT THE

  • AND HE THREW THE BALL UP AT THE BASKETBALL GAME AND ONE SIDE

  • BASKETBALL GAME AND ONE SIDE GRABBED THE BALL, THAT WOULD BE

  • GRABBED THE BALL, THAT WOULD BE BARR, GRABBED THE BALL AND SHOT

  • BARR, GRABBED THE BALL AND SHOT IT AND SAID INNOCENT

  • IT AND SAID INNOCENT >> SO FINAL QUESTION, CHRIS.

  • >> SO FINAL QUESTION, CHRIS. WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE US

  • WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE US BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS IN

  • BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS HAVE A REAL CHOICE HERE

  • CONGRESS HAVE A REAL CHOICE HERE ABOUT HOW AND WHERE TO

  • ABOUT HOW AND WHERE TO STREAMLINE THEIR OBJECTIONS,

  • STREAMLINE THEIR OBJECTIONS, THEIR BILLS OF PARTICULARS, AND

  • THEIR BILLS OF PARTICULARS, AND THEIR INVESTIGATION.

  • THEIR INVESTIGATION. >> WELL, THEY CAN TAKE THE

  • >> WELL, THEY CAN TAKE THE OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE POINT,

  • OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE POINT, THEY CAN TAKE ELEMENTS OF THE

  • THEY CAN TAKE ELEMENTS OF THE COLLUSION PART, CLEARLY ALL THIS

  • COLLUSION PART, CLEARLY ALL THIS BALL PLAYING

  • BALL PLAYING I THINK THE DECISION BY THE

  • I THINK THE DECISION BY THE MUELLER TEAM TO SAY YOU CAN’T

  • MUELLER TEAM TO SAY YOU CAN’T PROSECUTE ON A GUY WHO TAKES

  • PROSECUTE ON A GUY WHO TAKES DIRT FROM WikiLeaks, FROM

  • DIRT FROM WikiLeaks, FROM GUCCIFER 2 AND USES IT AS PART

  • GUCCIFER 2 AND USES IT AS PART OF A PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN ALONG

  • OF A PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN ALONG THE LINES THAT RUSSIA INTENDED,

  • THE LINES THAT RUSSIA INTENDED, I DON’T SEE THAT -- THAT IS NOT

  • I DON’T SEE THAT -- THAT IS NOT ADVANCING A CONSPIRACY, BI-I