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  • LISA GREEN: OK.

  • Thank you guys.

  • Thanks everyone for coming.

  • First, I'm Lisa Green.

  • I run our Luxury Fashion Group.

  • And I'm thrilled to have these four guys here

  • to talk to us today about how shopping has changed

  • in the modern day, and give any advice that any of you guys

  • have about that specific topic.

  • So we'll go ahead and start with Lauren.

  • And then we'll just go down the line.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: My name's Lauren Sherman.

  • I am Fashionista's editor-at-large.

  • I'm a freelance writer as well.

  • And I write for a bunch of different publications.

  • My expertise is kind of the intersection

  • of fashion and business.

  • So I write for consumer publications.

  • I write for business publications, trade

  • and-- So I've been covering this stuff for about 10 years.

  • And e-commerce is obviously a big part of my beat.

  • So I guess that's basically it.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: Hi.

  • I'm Leah Chernikoff.

  • I'm the editor of Elle.com.

  • So that means I oversee all editorial, content, strategy.

  • Before that I was at Fashionista with Lauren.

  • She hired me.

  • And before that, I was a reporter at the Daily News,

  • covering features.

  • And then I focused on fashion from there.

  • And also decided to go digital, when,

  • I think I experienced the fourth round of layoffs.

  • So I'm happy to be online.

  • And so-- yeah, my expertise is more

  • of sort of a general view on fashion,

  • and having watched, sort of, things

  • go from analog to digital.

  • LISA GREEN: You've got it.

  • STEVEN ALAN: Hi I'm Steven Alan.

  • And I started my company about 20 years ago.

  • And started as a multi-brand retailer and then from there

  • started representing designers, and then from there,

  • started manufacturing.

  • And today, we do all three, kind of three businesses

  • within a business.

  • And I think each business is very much complementary

  • to the other business.

  • BRETT HEYMAN: Thank you.

  • Hi, my name is Brett Heyman.

  • I have a brand of handbags called Edie.

  • Parker, which I launched about four years ago.

  • And before that, I had a PR background.

  • I worked in PR for Gucci and Dolce Gabbana covering

  • accessories, mostly, and ready-to-wear.

  • LISA GREEN: Cool.

  • Well thank you guys.

  • Thank you again for being here.

  • We're just going to kick it off by asking

  • what the strangest thing that you've ever bought online is?

  • So, Steven, we'll start with you.

  • STEVEN ALAN: I remember buying a car online,

  • which for me was pretty weird.

  • Without seeing it, and it was on eBay,

  • and it was one of those bidding things--

  • And it was a particular-- it wasn't

  • any amazing-- it was just an old Volvo.

  • But I wanted a stick-shift.

  • And so I ended up going up to Pittsburgh and picking it up .

  • It wasn't that weird but--

  • LISA GREEN: It's a big purchase.

  • STEVEN ALAN: Yeah, it was a big purchase.

  • 00:02:50,468 --> 00:02:51,216 LISA GREEN: Brett.

  • You want to go?

  • BRETT HEYMAN: Well, I'm excited to hear that because I'm

  • mulling over a Grand Wagoneer online, and through eBay Auto.

  • So I'm happy that it worked for you.

  • I don't think I buy a lot of weird stuff.

  • But I do buy a lot of geodes and rocks,

  • and I buy them all online on eBay.

  • LISA GREEN: Well, I'm just going throw in what my weirdest

  • thing was-- to maybe help you guys

  • along the continuum of weird-- I once bought a smitten, which

  • was actually a glove for two people.

  • So that you could hold hands--

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • --while walking down the street.

  • It's really-- I've been married for 10 years.

  • So clearly that was more than 10 years ago.

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: We were talking about this before.

  • I'm like kind of co-opting my boyfriend because he

  • buys a lot of weird drugs online.

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • And, they come in like strange--

  • LISA GREEN: Remember, we are video'ing this.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: Yeah, that's fine.

  • They're all legal.

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Now, I really want

  • to know what kind of legal drugs?

  • Is it like through Canada or something?

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: [INAUDIBLE] from Asia.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Oh, interesting.

  • OK.

  • We can talk about this offline.

  • I think the weirdest thing I've ever bought

  • is like a dog DNA test.

  • I don't know if that's that weird though.

  • I mean, you guys are doing stuff like that now.

  • LISA GREEN: It's weird.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: And I've tried to buy my own DNA test.

  • But there are weird rules in New York.

  • And I've also bought like, the "National Geographic."

  • It's like the "23 and Me" thing, but what they do.

  • And it's $100 bucks.

  • But the doggie DNA was probably the weirdest.

  • And it confirmed what we already knew.

  • So it was also a waste of money, but--

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • --it was good.

  • STEVEN ALAN: What was that "National Geographic"?

  • I'm just curious about that.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: It's all about her ancestors.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: You like-- it's another story.

  • It's too long.

  • But, you like-- they take your DNA.

  • And they find out one-- I think it's

  • like your grandmother's grandmother.

  • Or guys can do-- women can't do the guy's lineage too--

  • but you can find out like one path of your lineage.

  • And again, it was everything that I already knew.

  • It was not-- there was nothing exciting in there, except one.

  • But yeah.

  • So.

  • 00:04:59,384 --> 00:05:00,000 LISA GREEN: All right.

  • Well, thanks guys.

  • Now, the rest of this is gonna be so boring in comparison.

  • But, let's just start pretty general with what's

  • the biggest change that you see in the way people are shopping?

  • Leah, you've got the mike, so why don't you--

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: Um, I think what I've noticed most,

  • and what I'm guilty of myself, with everything being online

  • now, is if you see one thing online,

  • I immediately go to like 10 other sites

  • to see which site has it at the cheapest price point.

  • So I think that's really changing

  • the way-- people aren't just maybe going

  • to one online shopping destination.

  • But sort of scoping it out.

  • I don't know.

  • We were talking about the death of Huckster,

  • but that's kind of what that did, right?

  • LISA GREEN: If anybody else has anything to add,

  • or we could move on to the next.

  • You've got something, Steven?

  • STEVEN ALAN: No.

  • Go ahead.

  • LISA GREEN: Nothing?

  • OK.

  • In terms of devices, I think that's kind of

  • been the big theme lately is, we're all

  • talking about being multi-screen and going from one device

  • to the next, and kind of switching it all up?

  • Which one do you think has become the most influential

  • on purchase decisions?

  • So not necessarily which one is the one with the last click,

  • because I think that we're all aware of what that is.

  • But what do you think?

  • You know, from TV to a magazine, to a phone, to a computer,

  • to a billboard, to in-store signage-- what

  • do you think really has the most influence on purchasing

  • decisions?

  • 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:27,579 Steven.

  • STEVEN ALAN: I think that, I mean,

  • mobile is definitely the most important thing.

  • And I think that now what we're seeing

  • is definitely sort of the tablet gaining more and more strength

  • compared to the phone.

  • Just because people are just able to carry it around in.

  • They're smaller.

  • And even the phones are becoming more like tablets.

  • So the line is getting blurred.

  • LISA GREEN: The phablet?

  • STEVEN ALAN: Yeah.

  • I guess.

  • LISA GREEN: Anything else you guys think?

  • Like, why do you think mobile and tablet are becoming so big?

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Yeah.

  • Obviously I agree that mobile is huge.

  • I just did a story this weekend on buying fine jewelry online,

  • for the "Wall Street Journal"'s Weekend Section.

  • And a lot of these fine jewelry retailers-- people

  • are buying $60,000 pairs of earrings on their phone.

  • And I mean, that's been happening in Asia for years.

  • But now it's becoming more prevalent here.

  • But I also think that the phone and the tablet connect you.

  • If you're in the store and you see something-- and all

  • this cross-channel stuff that people call Omni Channel

  • or whatever-- is those things are the connectors.

  • So whether that means going into a store

  • and them having tablets for you to buy more stuff.

  • Or that means you looking on your phone, that's

  • the thing that's really connecting us,

  • is the mobile aspect of it.

  • And

  • LISA GREEN: And what do you guys think is that big opportunity?

  • I think Lauren makes a really good point about how

  • mobile kind of connects you while you're in store.

  • If you could sort of create-- Steven,

  • maybe for you in your stores?

  • How do you feel like your-- you guys should be using mobile

  • once somebody is already there?

  • STEVEN ALAN: We do.

  • I mean we have iPads in the stores.

  • And people come in the store and then,

  • if we don't have something, then usually the associate

  • will go online and see if we have it online.

  • Then they'll be able to help them and complete

  • that purchase online.

  • Or, if another store has it, again they

  • can check inventory with the same app at and other stores,

  • and sell that.

  • Had

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Yeah, it's such a simple thing.

  • But my husband's a big fan of Steven's stuff.

  • And he-- that, like, sea-green sweatshirt you guys

  • did for spring?

  • He really wanted it.

  • But it was sold out on his size online.

  • And it said on there that it was available in the Tribeca store.

  • So he went there.

  • That's something that's been around for a long time.

  • But I feel like people are really using it now.

  • Whereas maybe five years ago, he wouldn't have even thought

  • of checking to see if it was available in a store,

  • or he would have picked up the phone and called,

  • instead of figuring it online.

  • STEVEN ALAN: That's also-- I mean,

  • for us, that was definitely like 101, was being able to do that.

  • And if we didn't have it online, just have it pop up and say,

  • sorry we're out of that.

  • But we have it.

  • And it would be by the SKU.

  • So it won't tell you to call a store if they don't actually

  • have that size in that item.

  • But then, 2.0 would definitely be--

  • online would actually just start scanning all the stores.

  • And then be able to just continue that order without you

  • having to call the store and have the store ship it

  • to you and all that stuff.

  • The store would still do that.

  • But you wouldn't necessarily know that.

  • And so I think that for me, as a retailer

  • I want to really make that whole experience as seamless

  • as possible.

  • So sometimes you don't want to even necessarily buy it.

  • You want to kind of see it, or touch it, or feel it.

  • So, to be able to be at home at 2 o'clock in the morning,

  • go online and just shop, but actually not purchase and say,

  • you know what?

  • Tomorrow I'd like to try that on.

  • I'll be in the store at 2 o'clock.

  • And you know, have that whole experience happen.

  • That's something that-- I don't know who's doing that at all.

  • But that's something that I want to do.

  • Because I think it's important.

  • You want to be able to do that.

  • LISA GREEN: I saw a study recently

  • that said that people would prefer

  • to consult their phone than a sales associate.

  • So even when they walk into a store,

  • the first thing that they do is they look at their phone,

  • rather than ask for help.

  • And in fact people will say, is there

  • something I can help you with?

  • Can I help you?

  • And they say, oh no no.

  • No thanks.

  • And there they are, on their phone.

  • So what do you suggest?

  • How do you think you can use that to your advantage?

  • Or how could a retailer use that to their advantage,

  • rather than it being something that's

  • coming between the customer?

  • STEVEN ALAN: I mean, that's definitely something

  • that we're seeing.

  • People are coming into the store,

  • and they're definitely trying to get more information

  • on products while they're in the store.

  • And I think in the future, whether it's

  • QR codes or something, where you can actually really do a deeper

  • dive-- Because I think that even the people working in the store

  • have a limited amount of information.

  • But what you can actually-- you can videos.

  • You can do anything, depending on the product.

  • LISA GREEN: Maybe Brett, maybe we

  • can loop you into to the conversation a little bit,

  • in terms of, what brands do you think

  • are doing interesting things with all

  • of these-- the direction that shopping is moving in?

  • Have you seen anything interesting?

  • BRETT HEYMAN: Well, I myself am obsessed with personalisation.

  • Like, we launched our website mid-June.

  • And we have a bespoke component where you can type in your name

  • and see how it would look on a bag.

  • And so I would love to develop that further.

  • And so in that vein, I'm obsessed

  • with the Nike interface, when you can do the bespoke.

  • But I also love how Warby Parker does

  • the-- you can upload your face and try on the glasses

  • virtually.

  • It is my dream to have a virtual dressing room for my body,

  • and just have your body up there,

  • and have your virtual clothes, and never ever ever

  • have to try on anything in real time.

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • LISA GREEN: What about you guys?

  • Have you seen anything, any brands that you would call out

  • as doing anything really interesting?

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: I don't know.

  • Nothing comes to mind for me.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: I think Nike and personalization stuff is cool.

  • I mean, I think there are the obvious ones.

  • Burberry and you know, that get called out again and again

  • and again.

  • But I think, there's a brand in the UK called "Matches."

  • They sell a lot.

  • They have a huge presence online.

  • But they sell a lot of-- they have a bunch of boutiques.

  • They sell really expensive clothes.

  • And they have a thing.

  • They sell tons of SKUs online.

  • Tons of denim.

  • Tons of contemporary.

  • So most of you work, I think, in ad, fashion ads,

  • so you probably know contemporaries,

  • like mid-price stuff.

  • But they don't have much of that in the boutique,

  • because they don't have a lot of square footage.

  • They only have dressed that are $1,000 or more.

  • So when they're in the store, they have iPads out.

  • And they're kind of training their probably very

  • well-paid customer service people to kind of loop

  • in the stuff on the iPad.

  • And anecdotally, they've told me that a lot of people

  • who have never bought stuff online

  • before are buying jeans through them, or a pair of earrings,

  • or something like that, while they're in the store.

  • So I think that kind of stuff, it's still clunky.

  • And it's not where it needs to be.

  • But the more that happens, the more exciting shopping

  • is going to become.

  • LISA GREEN: And a little bit in the personalization vein,

  • we were discussing a little bit earlier

  • that, I read an article this morning

  • about how big data can really play a role in personalization.

  • The article was about this guy who had received an email

  • to install solar panels on his home.

  • But it was really personalized.

  • The company had used the Google Maps technology

  • and overlaid their own API, whatever they did.

  • And they said they found that this guy's house was

  • perfect for installing solar panels.

  • And so the email said that.

  • It said, we've done some research.

  • And your house is great for solar panels.

  • And he clicked on it.

  • And the link brought him to another personalized place

  • that had Google Earth imagery.

  • And said, here's what we would do with your solar panels.

  • And the next clip was to a rep, who

  • already had all his information and was ready.

  • He didn't have to say anything.

  • It was such a powerful way to use data,

  • instead of it just being, oh, well

  • you bought a pair of jeans.

  • So you should buy more jeans.

  • Here's 30% off.

  • What do you guys think could be done in the fashion space

  • with all this data that we now have access to?

  • 00:14:41,415 --> 00:14:44,180 STEVEN ALAN: I think that it's interesting.

  • Because I was just in L.A. last weekend.

  • And I started getting emails-- and I'm not even sure

  • how this was done, but-- I started getting emails

  • for companies that had L.A. stores,

  • but where I never received the emails from those stores.

  • I don't even know how they knew.

  • I was just thinking about that.

  • But I think that-- Definitely, like for example right now,

  • another initiative is, if you come

  • into the store as a customer, you

  • have your history of what you've bought from the store.

  • And then we have a history of what you've bought online.

  • But the sales associates can't really

  • access what you've bought online, yet.

  • I mean, they will be able to.

  • But I think that is really important,

  • to be able to see sort of a complete profile.

  • And another thing that we're going to be using

  • is a technology called Digital Marvels or Touche.

  • I'm not sure which company.

  • But it's interesting.

  • What they do is, they allow the person

  • who's at the store to be able to sort of drag and drop

  • very easily.

  • So if you're a customer, and you want to find out information

  • on a particular brand-- you're interested in acne, say,

  • now what's happening is you might

  • get an email with a couple links on different items, whatever.

  • But with this, you'd could actually get-- I mean,

  • it's an app.

  • You'd have to download the app.

  • But then it would just be really easy for the associate

  • to just sort of drag a bunch of things

  • that they think that you might be interested in.

  • And then you could drag a bunch of things

  • out that you're not interested in.

  • It just really facilitates a great experience.

  • 00:16:23,926 --> 00:16:24,800 LAUREN SHERMAN: Yeah.

  • I'm actually working on a story about this right now.

  • And I think Gilt does a really interesting job

  • with this stuff.

  • They have a ton of people working

  • on their personalization.

  • They have a huge team of engineers working on it.

  • And I think that they've actually done the best job.

  • You know, they think about climate.

  • They think about where you are.

  • They think of your size.

  • And they really try to whittle it down.

  • So you get an email that is only the products

  • that you'd actually want.

  • Does it always work?

  • No.

  • But they're doing interesting things with.

  • And I think also it can help in the buying

  • process for a lot of big retailers.

  • The way that retailers buy things

  • is kind of very-- they look at past data.

  • And now they'll be able to look current data,

  • and say, oh, people across the internet

  • are buying green shirts or whatever.

  • Maybe we should order or we should

  • get some green shirts made, things like that.

  • So I think there's a lot of different ways

  • it can be applied.

  • Some of them, it might not be worth all the time

  • and effort, the end result.

  • But I think, especially if you're

  • a big, big multi-brand website, to be able to kind of figure

  • out what's available in people's sizes, in the things

  • that they'd already like, is exciting.

  • And the better that they get at it, the more-- I guess,

  • the less people will even notice,

  • or, hopefully it will result in better sales.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: [INAUDIBLE].

  • 00:18:02,980 --> 00:18:03,780 LISA GREEN: OK.

  • So what about shifting gears a little bit?

  • What about social?

  • What platforms do you think are really making a difference?

  • I think that what we see is brands

  • are really going after kind of every platform.

  • They're on Pinterest.

  • They're on Instagram.

  • They're on YouTube.

  • They're on Facebook.

  • And in fact, their marketing has every little icon next to it.

  • Which ones do you guys really think

  • are actually having an influence, driving purchase?

  • And as a brand, which ones do you

  • feel like you are best able to sort of communicate

  • your own messaging from?

  • And from where you guys sit, which brands-- what's working

  • and why?

  • STEVEN ALAN: I mean for us, I would

  • say Instagram is probably the most effective.

  • Because it's just so visual.

  • 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,840 I think that we can sort of connect the dots with Instagram

  • better than anything else.

  • And then with Instagram, goes to Twitter, goes to Facebook.

  • So it's very strong.

  • We're about to launch another app called Spring, which

  • will be-- I think it's going to be very

  • significant in the fashion space.

  • Because it will actually be a shoppable visual platform.

  • So I think I'm excited about that.

  • BRETT HEYMAN: For us also, Instagram's the most important.

  • Being a small brand, and just communicating directly

  • with the customers, anytime I post a picture

  • that people like that, I have so many people

  • asking if we'll ship to Mexico?

  • If we'll ship here, and how much bags are.

  • So I can directly interface with the customers.

  • And I get so many screenshots of an Instagram post

  • sent back to our customer service

  • saying we want to order this bag.

  • Where do we get this bag?

  • So it's great.

  • And then if there were ever-- if we want to do sales,

  • or now launching the website and promoting sales on the website,

  • we use Facebook.

  • And I feel like that customer is much more into what

  • your sales are, what deal can I get.

  • It's much more commerce-driven than the visual, Instagram.

  • 00:19:53,784 --> 00:19:54,700 LEAH CHERNIKOFF: Yeah.

  • I would say Instagram too.

  • And I also think that Spring is going

  • to be a game changer, maybe.

  • I don't know if you guys know what it is.

  • But as I understand it-- and I'm getting a walk-through tomorrow

  • actually, of the app.

  • But I've seen it in its early stages too.

  • It's like an Instagram feed, but you can click to buy.

  • And it's really, really beautifully designed,

  • and really intuitive.

  • So, I don't shop online that much.

  • That one makes a lot of sense to me.

  • So I think that-- and every major brand

  • is signing up with them.

  • So I think that will be a force.

  • But other than that, yeah, I think

  • Instagram is such a great way for brands

  • to present exactly the image that they want.

  • But then also you see Style Bloggers,

  • and I think, what is it, Like To Know It?

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Like To Know It.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: I did talk to a few bloggers.

  • They are seeing commissions.

  • So I think it's working too.

  • It's another way to make Instagram shoppable.

  • That one seems like more effort to me,

  • like, you have to sign up.

  • And then more steps.

  • But I think, when somebody sees something on a girl

  • that they think looks really cute, and they want the dress,

  • it's a good way to get it.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Yeah, I agree.

  • Instagram and Spring-- I'm also really excited about.

  • I think, if anybody's going to be able to do it--

  • what companies like List and I'm trying

  • to think of what the other ones are called, and Fancy,

  • have tried to do with fashion and have not been able to.

  • I really think Spring might have a chance to do it.

  • Especially because it's-- they're doing partnerships.

  • It's not affiliate-based as I think I'm correct?

  • STEVEN ALAN: What do you mean?

  • Partnerships as opposed to?

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: As opposed to just a feed, API.

  • STEVEN ALAN: Oh, no.

  • It's total partnerships.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Yeah.

  • So it's not an API.

  • So it's just very interesting.

  • And I think that when that launches, if it takes off,

  • it's going to be huge.

  • Or it will flop it.

  • But I have a feeling it's going to be really good.

  • LISA GREEN: So it'll be good, or not good.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Yeah.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: But you create the imagery, right?

  • STEVEN ALAN: Yeah.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: So every brands creates--

  • like, they have complete control.

  • So I think that that's part of the reason it

  • will be so successful.

  • LISA GREEN: So, in that vein, do you

  • think that there's a danger of kind of commercializing what

  • consumers feel like is somewhat organic at this point?

  • So, in the same way, like maybe, if I think about it

  • from a video aspect, should brands

  • be making their videos more shoppable?

  • Should there be this sort of seamless interaction

  • between a beautiful brand video that you could actually

  • click to buy?

  • Or do you think-- because it sounds

  • like what you guys are saying is, Instagram's awesome.

  • And it'll be more awesome if you can buy from it.

  • So do you think it's the same with video?

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: I don't think many people watch fancy brand

  • videos.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: [INAUDIBLE] actually launched today.

  • Cinematique, did you see that?

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Yeah.

  • They've been doing stuff on [INAUDIBLE] for a while.

  • But it could work.

  • And it's interesting.

  • But I think what sells are YouTube people, like vloggers.

  • I think that they can really sell product via the web.

  • And I think on the really high end, I mean,

  • I think occasionally it does work.

  • And there are certain viral fashion videos

  • that have done well.

  • And maybe if they had click to buy on them-- like,

  • Rachel Antonoff does some really cool ones.

  • If they had had click to buy, maybe it would have done well.

  • But I think that that's something

  • that bigger brands haven't figured out yet.

  • STEVEN ALAN: I'd heard the other day

  • that I think there was 15,000 people on YouTube that

  • have a greater following than Vogue.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Oh yeah.

  • STEVEN ALAN: It was just amazing.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Yeah, and even if people are watching things

  • on Vogue-- I mean, Leah could speak to this more

  • because I haven't been editing a site for a while.

  • But it's really hard to get people to shop via editorial,

  • when you're a really big name.

  • If you're a blogger, it's easier.

  • Because they have a closer connection.

  • But to get someone to buy something via a story,

  • it's not really why people are going to editorial websites.

  • I don't know that's changing.

  • Do you think it is?

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: No.

  • I think it's easier online.

  • Because throughout the day, we have smaller market stories.

  • And they're much more focused.

  • Or maybe one is really centered around an editor who functions

  • in that way more like a blogger.

  • Because then you sort of might follow that editor

  • on their social channels and feel

  • a more personal connection.

  • So if they pick the product, maybe wear it themselves,

  • you might be more inclined to buy it than maybe

  • if you just saw like a roundup of like 100 boots.

  • But you might get a sense of the direction you want to go in.

  • I still think it offers guidance, but not

  • in the same way of an immediate sort of drive to sale.

  • And then this thing that-- I got a walk-through of Cinematique

  • which makes shoppable videos.

  • And it launched with Net-a-Porter today.

  • And I still, I mean as someone who runs a site,

  • it's hard to get people to watch videos.

  • Like, we don't have a user's attention for very long.

  • And so the videos have to be short.

  • And I think, it's also just going to--

  • you have to change the way users interact with video, to let

  • them know like, oh, you can hover over the video

  • and click things in.

  • And I think that's just not-- it's really

  • going to have to be a behavior shift

  • to let people know that that's possible.

  • LISA GREEN: Cool.

  • I'm going to open it up for questions.

  • I can keep asking them.

  • But I don't if anybody in the audience has anything.

  • You can just raise your hand if you've got any questions.

  • Oh, OK.

  • AUDIENCE: What do you think is the next big thing

  • in e-commerce in regards to shopping?

  • Or what would you like to see next?

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: I think that beauty

  • is something has a lot of opportunity.

  • There's a ton of opportunity via YouTube

  • and beauty, which is already happening.

  • But I think that the beauty space-- a lot of beauty brands

  • have a weird rule that if you don't have any brick and mortar

  • store, you can't sell their stuff online.

  • And someone explained to me why that is the other day.

  • Because every beauty person I meet, I ask them why that is.

  • But they're really strict about it.

  • So a lot of beauty sites that don't have brick and mortar,

  • they don't have a lot of big brands.

  • And I think that that's going to start-- I mean,

  • Amazon has everything.

  • Because they pool from-- it's not regulated.

  • And obviously you guys know how that works.

  • But I think beauty is a huge space.

  • It doesn't-- as much as people say you need to try on product,

  • people have been shopping via Avon catalogs for 100 years

  • or whatever.

  • I don't think that that's a barrier.

  • And I think there aren't that many big players.

  • There's Amazon.

  • There are the bigger websites.

  • And there is Sephora.

  • But there isn't a ton in that space.

  • And that to me, that's what I'm looking at,

  • at different e-commerce opportunities in there.

  • And I also think just the closer connection with in-store.

  • I mean, there was some survey that

  • said that people still prefer to shop in-store.

  • I haven't looked at the data enough

  • to know whether or not it was BS or not.

  • But I think that people are using the web.

  • Regardless, every purchase is made with web.

  • So just the closer the connection is between the two,

  • the better off the retailer is, I think.

  • LISA GREEN: You guys have anything about e-commerce.

  • STEVEN ALAN: I would just-- I think when 3D-- I mean,

  • that's going to be revolutionary in shopping, I think.

  • And just quality imagery in general.

  • When we photograph things, it's always just the lighting

  • and being able to really see color.

  • So I think as technology advances,

  • that's going to really help with things like that.

  • LISA GREEN: One of the other questions

  • that I have which, I haven't gotten to ask yet,

  • which seems like a right to ask it is, so if Google could

  • design the perfect product for fashion brands, what would that

  • look like to you guys?

  • What's missing in this space that you think you really

  • need to drive your sales, or to promote your brand,

  • or that you really think is missing to make fashion

  • more exciting, more accessible, more Interesting?

  • 00:28:27,270 --> 00:28:27,770 Leah?

  • I'm gonna call on Leah.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: That's a really big question.

  • LISA GREEN: OK.

  • Brett?

  • BRETT HEYMAN: I'm sticking with virtual dressing room.

  • LISA GREEN: That's right.

  • You nailed it.

  • BRETT HEYMAN: It's applicable for beauty, too.

  • Uplighting your face, what colors work?

  • I just feel like that's going to be everything.

  • 00:28:44,888 --> 00:28:47,439 STEVEN ALAN: I think checkout, too, is a big deal.

  • I mean obviously, like Amazon checkout,

  • it just makes it so easy.

  • But I think just having this sort

  • of seamless one-click ability to do

  • that, I think it'll help with that.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: And making returns as easy as possible,

  • too.

  • I mean, I think that's the number one thing that stops me

  • from shopping online is because I know that, if I get it,

  • and then I wait too long, I'm screwed.

  • And I've got it.

  • So I tend to only make purchases when I really

  • know that it's something like-- brand

  • that I love, the size of that fits me.

  • And I know all these things work.

  • STEVEN ALAN: And you were saying in the beginning,

  • you were saying about checking different sites

  • to see who had it at a lower price?

  • I would think that if there was an app that actually could

  • do that for you, where you just automatically

  • have whatever the sites that you would check.

  • And it would just tell you, OK.

  • Buy it.

  • It's cheapest.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: And you would have a definitive answer.

  • STEVEN ALAN: So they do it with air fare now.

  • So it seems like, if they do with airfare, they could do it.

  • LISA GREEN: We have-- there's a particular brand

  • that we work with who's in the sort of accessible luxury

  • space.

  • So their goods are about $400, kind of in that range.

  • And what we've found that's really interesting,

  • that their shipping is actually quite expensive.

  • But for some reason, they are still making sales,

  • even though their product is actually

  • sold by other wholesalers.

  • What do you guys make of that?

  • We're trying to figure out, is there

  • a reason why you think consumers might still

  • prefer to buy brand-direct versus from Shopbop

  • or Bloomingdale's or Steven Allan?

  • How do you guys sweeten the deal?

  • How do you get people to buy something from you,

  • even if it's not necessarily price?

  • Like, why buy it from StevenAlan.com.

  • STEVEN ALAN: Well, I mean, I don't know.

  • I guess with anything, if I'm buying a product,

  • and it's from the source, then I would think maybe it's

  • in better condition.

  • It's not coming off of some shelf on a store,

  • where they're wrapping it up.

  • And if there is a problem, that I can call that company.

  • And they'll certainly stand behind their product.

  • Whereas if you're selling another product,

  • you can only stand behind it-- well,

  • you could stand behind it.

  • But it's not always the same as if you're buying it direct.

  • I mean, I just-- actually it doesn't relate.

  • I was just thinking of pillows.

  • Because I'm buying pillows.

  • But I can't think of the analogy that I

  • wanted to think of, so, anyway.

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • BRETT HEYMAN: I just, for me, I shop on Net-a-Porter

  • because it's very expedient.

  • Like it's fast.

  • It's same day.

  • That's something we offer in New York on our site

  • and would love to roll it out eventually at other places.

  • And you mentioned Spring.

  • We just had our Spring training.

  • And they're only offering one mode and method of shipping.

  • I think everybody wants things so fast that there's not

  • like-- you know, normally you check out.

  • You have ground, expedited, et cetera, et cetera.

  • And Spring is only offering expedited.

  • So I just think--

  • STEVEN ALAN: It's also free.

  • BRETT HEYMAN: Yes.

  • LISA GREEN: It's free expedited.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Yeah, I think the big reason

  • would be selection.

  • So assume that retailer may have one or two things on-- you

  • can go to Edie Parker and get probably everything

  • that you've done that season, plus all

  • the personalization stuff.

  • Whereas, if you go on Net-a-Porter,

  • there are probably four SKUs or something.

  • I think that's a big part of it is

  • that, I like to shop at individual websites a lot.

  • Because it's usually every single product

  • that they've done that season.

  • And when it's not, I think, oh, you

  • didn't buy that for yourself?

  • And now I have to go-- So you know,

  • so I think that that's a part of it,

  • too, is just there's usually a much bigger selection

  • on individual sites.

  • LISA GREEN: What about the same day delivery thing?

  • I mean, you guys hopefully, maybe have bought something

  • using Google Shopping Express.

  • But So we recently launched it in New York.

  • It's been in the Bay Area for quite awhile.

  • And we've got it in West L.A. as well.

  • It's this idea that you can not only get it same day,

  • but you can actually schedule.

  • Very similar to what you do with Net-a-Porter.

  • It's subscription-based.

  • And right now, you get six months for free.

  • So go home and try it out.

  • But what do you think about that for fashion brands?

  • Because currently it's very focused on everyday essentials.

  • It's Walgreens, Target, Costco, Fairway.

  • Help me people.

  • What else am I missing?

  • L'Occitane.

  • Costco.

  • Toys-R-Us.

  • Yes, how can I forget?

  • I'm using it all the time.

  • So what do you think about the likelihood

  • of fashion brands getting into this space and the ability

  • to deliver goods same day?

  • Why would they say yes?

  • And why wouldn't they do it?

  • STEVEN ALAN: We've tried it.

  • We did it in holiday.

  • We did same day delivery.

  • We had messengers delivering it.

  • But I'm not sure.

  • I don't know what would be involved

  • in doing it with Google.

  • Like, I don't know what the costs would be for the company,

  • and how the whole thing would work out.

  • So it would be hard to say.

  • LISA GREEN: So let's take it from-- because I'm not

  • going to sell you the product right now.

  • So let's take it from the sort of consumer perspective, right?

  • Do you think that that's something consumers

  • are really looking for now?

  • Or do you think that we've got another year or two where

  • people are still happy with two-day delivery

  • or whatever it is?

  • STEVEN ALAN: I think it's always good to offer.

  • I mean, all things being equal, I

  • think it'd be nice thing to offer.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: I would use it.

  • I think we are in a bubble of a world where it's like, oh,

  • I can't go get that bag that I really want for this wedding

  • this weekend.

  • Because I don't have enough time.

  • So if someone could just get it to me by Friday,

  • that'd be great.

  • And I definitely pay extra for stuff.

  • So I think that people-- there is a need for it.

  • But it's just just a matter of money and logistics in general.

  • When you're here, it's easy.

  • But if you're in Idaho or whatever,

  • and you need a bag next day, it's, you know,

  • it seem kind of impossible.

  • STEVEN ALAN: Another thing too, I

  • was thinking about before when you were asking about

  • the-- just when we're talking about the fact

  • that your selection is so much better in a single branded type

  • store.

  • It reminded me of, there's a site

  • in Japan called Zozotown, which is interesting

  • because they have all these individual stores.

  • But it's kind of like a virtual shopping mall, in a sense.

  • And people have tried to do it here,

  • but I don't know of anyone that's

  • really been effective doing it here.

  • But it's pretty interesting.

  • LISA GREEN: It's essentially what Google Shopping Express

  • is, just so you know.

  • It is.

  • It's all these different stores.

  • You're buying directly from the store.

  • But it's being delivered to you by Google.

  • So that's the--

  • STEVEN ALAN: So all the stores are linked on Shopping Express?

  • LISA GREEN: Yes, so it's basically a mall.

  • You should go.

  • Google.com/Express .

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • STEVEN ALAN: OK.

  • I'm going to check it out.

  • LISA GREEN: But just so you guys know,

  • it's basically a mall where you can buy from all this--

  • they're all local stores.

  • They're stores you would go out--

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: I definitely have

  • bought stuff via Google Shopping.

  • Because I buy pretty much everything online.

  • So I've definitely done it before.

  • And I use it to search for products.

  • LISA GREEN: Yeah.

  • Other questions from-- wait, I'm gonna go.

  • Betty Ann?

  • I'm just trying to diversify the room here.

  • AUDIENCE: I'm Betty Ann.

  • I manage our Fashion and Lifestyle Partnerships

  • on Google [INAUDIBLE].

  • And I've actually worked on some capacity with most of you guys,

  • on the channel.

  • I just wanted to quickly ask about [INAUDIBLE] and iBeacon

  • technology, and what your thoughts are on that.

  • You mentioned a lot of mobile and the features

  • in mobile, but what are you guys thinking about [INAUDIBLE].

  • STEVEN ALAN: Cautious.

  • I mean, for me as a retailer , just because I feel like

  • there's always that-- am I invading your space by--?

  • But on the other hand, I feel like it's

  • going to be so prevalent.

  • And it's going to be so common in the future.

  • And so it's just a question of doing it

  • in the appropriate way for me.

  • 00:36:24,894 --> 00:36:25,810 LEAH CHERNIKOFF: Yeah.

  • I mean, Elle is working with iBeacon as well.

  • I think it's the same thing.

  • Like, I still don't quite get it.

  • I'm like, OK.

  • So I just walk by something.

  • And if I have the thing, it pops into my phone.

  • But yeah, I think it would be about feeling,

  • walking the line of not being too intrusive.

  • But if it's offering a service, I think, everyone,

  • no one wants to-- You know, it's those extra steps

  • that stop you from making a purchase,

  • or getting something done.

  • So if iBeacon makes something like that more seamless,

  • I think it's really helpful.

  • LISA GREEN: You have a question?

  • AUDIENCE: Yeah.

  • Just wanted to follow up on a thought that I was having.

  • When you mentioned people price shopping

  • between different sites, what you've

  • seen over the last-- probably more than five years--

  • but an increase in collaborations between stores

  • and designers [INAUDIBLE] the sense.

  • [INAUDIBLE] Even bigger, luxury retailers like Barneys,

  • they all have their own exclusives.

  • Which in a way, promotes their brand,

  • that they have all these things, but it also prevents people

  • from comparison shopping.

  • So do you see that becoming more prevalent?

  • More stores trying to wake up with labels

  • and do direct collaborations to keep

  • the customer at that store.

  • STEVEN ALAN: Definitely.

  • I mean, I think that as much as you can do that.

  • Sometimes it's a little tricky for some retailers.

  • Because let's say you have one store.

  • And you want to collaborate with a brand.

  • Usually the brand needs to reach a certain minimum quantity

  • to produce.

  • So let's say it's 200 units.

  • And that could be huge risk for you,

  • even though you have exclusive products.

  • So, it's definitely a balance.

  • But I think that the more you can do that, the better.

  • LISA GREEN: As a brand, I mean that sounds

  • like a bit of a challenge, to be creating

  • a unique product for every--

  • BRETT HEYMAN: It's such a challenge.

  • And every market, every important retailer,

  • now more and more demands their own exclusives.

  • They want their own colors.

  • They want-- they don't want you to sell

  • that bag to anybody else.

  • It's really, really difficult.

  • And I would just say in a-- I love all of my retail partners

  • but-- I've noticed that, especially with my brick

  • and mortar retailers, they are very, very

  • specific about what they.

  • And they'll design something based on what we design.

  • And I'm happy to oblige.

  • Because I'm a small brand.

  • But season after season, I noticed

  • that those are the bags that are still

  • on shelves at the end of the season.

  • Like, I don't think the customer cares

  • as much about exclusive to x store as the store does.

  • STEVEN ALAN: Totally.

  • And I think that a lot of times buyers

  • want to be designers too.

  • And it's sort of like, what if we did this?

  • And we put the-- And it's kind of like,

  • are you sure about that?

  • It's like, oh, yeah.

  • Definitely.

  • And we're going to buy it big.

  • A lot of times it's like a big-- especially a store

  • chain or something like that.

  • And it's like you kind of know it.

  • And then they get it.

  • And exactly what you said, they're stuck with it.

  • And then you're like, why did I do that?

  • I should have just told them not do it.

  • And, but that happens sometimes.

  • And it doesn't really merchandise back

  • with the collection.

  • It's sort of like this one-off thing.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: Yeah.

  • I think you do see more and more of them.

  • But they only work when they're really good.

  • And then they go.

  • And then you see it on all your social channels.

  • Like, the message gets out.

  • Like, Lauren just wrote about Everlane with Langley Fox.

  • But I think, and you know, Barneys does a bunch

  • that I think are really good.

  • But--

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Yeah, but whether or not those ones

  • that they just did one with the NBA player.

  • Russell--

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: Russell-

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Russell West-- yeah.

  • I just wrote a story about NBA player style for Leah.

  • I obviously know a lot about it.

  • But I don't know if those will sell.

  • They did one with Jasmine Soule who's

  • a fashion consultant who's super cool.

  • And everybody in fashion's obsessed with her.

  • And they

  • [INTERPOSING VOICES]

  • I don't-- I mean, they probably didn't make a lot of it.

  • But I think, the one that Everlane

  • did with Langley Fox who's an Illustrator.

  • And she's Ernest Hemingway's great-granddaughter

  • or something.

  • Who cares?

  • The shirts were amazing.

  • And I bought three of them immediately.

  • But it was cool.

  • She is cool.

  • And I was like, well, I would like to look like her.

  • She's really cool.

  • She's-- but, it was more about the product being really good.

  • And I think that's--

  • I love Steven did with Katie Ermilio.

  • And it's completely different price point and different kind

  • of customer.

  • But I happen to really like both brands, so I got something.

  • So I think it has to be the right thing.

  • AUDIENCE: It's either really awesome, or clearance.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Yeah.

  • Totally.

  • LISA GREEN: Did you still have a question?

  • AUDIENCE: Yeah.

  • So I work with a company I won't name

  • that's a global brand, household name, where you can walk out

  • of here and see a million dollar billboard with their name

  • on it.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: This is a fun guessing game.

  • AUDIENCE: And they still don't believe in digital.

  • And so, for all of you, I'm not an expert

  • in the fashion industry like Katie is here.

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • I work with a bunch of different [INAUDIBLE].

  • So I'm just wondering, for each of you,

  • you've seen-- you've been in the industry a long time.

  • [INAUDIBLE] more watershed [INAUDIBLE]

  • digital [INAUDIBLE] that could be more organic stuff, paid

  • media, online catalogs, whatever it is.

  • For you, what was your watershed moment,

  • where you saw and realized how important online is

  • for the modern shopper?

  • 00:41:54,910 --> 00:41:57,470 STEVEN ALAN: I mean, one thing in regards

  • to what you were saying-- I mean, with online as opposed

  • to print, obviously, you can track it.

  • So if you're a business and you're going to advertise,

  • and you're going to take out an ad in the magazine,

  • it's just sort of like, OK.

  • Well let's hope for the best.

  • It's like throwing darts.

  • But online, you're actually seeing it.

  • You're actually seeing the monetization

  • of what you're doing.

  • And I think in the future, more companies

  • are going to look at more the latent

  • demand of what's happening.

  • In other words, let's say you're a retailer, a designer.

  • And you have product on the site.

  • And you have buy 100 smalls, 100 mediums, 100 larges.

  • Right?

  • And you sell all the mediums.

  • So all you know is, well I should

  • have bought more mediums.

  • Because I sold out.

  • But I think in the future more and more

  • companies will start looking at that data

  • not as, well, I sold 100 mediums.

  • But 1,000 people clicked on medium to buy it.

  • And I only had 100.

  • So not only did I underbuy, but I really

  • should start to think about just how I bought it in general.

  • 00:43:06,050 --> 00:43:07,639 I don't know if that--

  • LISA GREEN: it's hard to believe that we're still

  • talking about people not believing in online as just

  • a communication channel.

  • Is that why we're silent, I think?

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: I've had to write

  • a bunch of stories of brands going online, and brands--

  • why aren't brands still online?

  • And I got online because that's where I got a job.

  • And what are you going to do?

  • I wanted to work at a Teen Vogue.

  • And I got a job at Forbes.com.

  • And it ended up being great for me.

  • But I was not excited to work in at a financial website.

  • And then I realized that, oh, 30 million people just

  • read my story.

  • And I'm getting emails from guys in India asking about-- like.

  • So I think that's when you just realize

  • the power of the web and the influence the web

  • has over print.

  • I mean, print still has influence.

  • And it's still smart.

  • And I'm assuming that the brand is at a very high price point.

  • OK, then I don't understand it.

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • Like, if you're Chanel or Celine,

  • which are the only ones that I can think of.

  • I mean, they don't really need to.

  • Because A, maybe they will need to someday.

  • But they sell a ton of-- they sell

  • enough handbags to send a 5,000 people to Dallas

  • for their $500 million show or whatever.

  • But I think that once you see the--

  • are they not selling online at all?

  • Or they just don't want to spend on digital advertising online?

  • AUDIENCE: They sell [INAUDIBLE].

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: But they don't want

  • to spend on digital advertising.

  • Is that the--?

  • Well.

  • AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Yeah.

  • I mean.

  • I think you really just need to see the power of it.

  • Like what Steven said about the 100 SKUs.

  • And then 1,000 people click on it.

  • You see how important it is.

  • And if they're still not getting that, I mean,

  • I don't know what their business is

  • going to look like in five years.

  • But it's not going to be-- I think

  • that they need to see its power to appreciate it.

  • STEVEN ALAN: Also, it's such a great tool.

  • I mean, for me, it's all about the product.

  • It's about really building this amazing product

  • and being able to articulate that message.

  • So I feel like it's enabled me as a designer

  • to sort of reach a much broader appeal than I could

  • with just having stores and let's say, if I was taking out

  • an ad in a magazine or something.

  • You can really kind of dig deeper and deeper on stuff.

  • LISA GREEN: We've got time for one last question.

  • If anybody has it?

  • AUDIENCE: I'm curious to know.

  • So we've said a lot in favor of online.

  • And I'm the typical online shopper.

  • I buy everything online.

  • Do you see a counter-argument against being fully online?

  • Do you think there's still a place where

  • you need to have brick and mortar partners?

  • And you need to have your own storefront?

  • Or do you think you could very easily

  • have your entire brand, product line, on a website

  • and communicate solely online?

  • Or do you think it needs to be kind of both?

  • STEVEN ALAN: I mean, I think it could exist.

  • Certainly.

  • I mean, there's a lot of companies.

  • I was talking to this guy the other day.

  • And the business he picked was the sexy business

  • of mattresses.

  • Which is like--

  • LISA GREEN: Pillows.

  • Mattresses.

  • STEVEN ALAN: Yeah.

  • It just happens.

  • I just happened to meet this guy.

  • And he decided he was going to start a mattress company called

  • Casper.

  • Casper-- beds.

  • Or Casper mattresses.

  • And basically it's all online.

  • And he's competing with Sleep-Ease

  • and all the other-- I mean, it's a huge, huge business.

  • And I just thought it was interesting.

  • Because you can't see it.

  • So it's something that-- the mattress of all things.

  • You want to-- you lie down.

  • You do your test and all that stuff.

  • So here's an example where they're

  • selling a product that traditionally has always

  • been a touch product.

  • And very successful with it.

  • So anyway.

  • 00:47:20,166 --> 00:47:22,942 BRETT HEYMAN: I know for me, my product is so tactile,

  • that even though we're doing well online,

  • I think there's still a great benefit to people

  • feeling the acrylic and feeling the confetti in it and all

  • the textures.

  • And I mean, this is obviously a young room.

  • But there are people in my mother's generation and people

  • who are very supportive who are still not

  • comfortable buying luxury online.

  • I mean like, Amazon, Google-- one thing.

  • But luxury products-- they still need to touch and feel and try.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: I think menswear, too.

  • I think guys really want to try stuff on.

  • Or see it.

  • I was on Everlane the other day.

  • And my husband was like, I really

  • want to try those polo shirts.

  • But I just wish there was somewhere I could go look.

  • That's why I mean, Bonobos-- that's a whole other thing.

  • Whether or not I believe in that product,

  • I'm not going to talk about right now.

  • But I do you think the idea of going into the store

  • and at least being able to see it.

  • And he said that to me just off-handedly.

  • And I think for men, because they

  • tend to buy a bunch of the same things-- is that right?

  • Yeah.

  • That they need to sometimes to see it just once in person,

  • so they can just keep buying it again and again.

  • STEVEN ALAN: Yeah.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: They don't like going into big stores.

  • STEVEN ALAN: I don't think it's necessary

  • to have as many stores as maybe in the past.

  • I think terms of building a brand, you would think, OK.

  • Well you need to have all these stores in all these cities.

  • And I think now-- I mean, it's definitely

  • important to have stores in all these key cities.

  • But, they're kind of supplementing that experience.

  • So it really is a place to sort of discover, touch.

  • And it's OK.

  • I think the more and more it's seen as something that's

  • completely OK to go in and not buy

  • something and just kind of look at it.

  • And it's sort of like this place to explore.

  • LISA GREEN: All right.

  • I'll leave my final question-- I don't need that.

  • So we're frighteningly already in August.

  • And so we're kind of hitting that slope

  • into fall and then holiday.

  • If each of you could just pick one big trend

  • that you're expecting to see with the online, digital,

  • retail revolution, what do you think it's going to be?

  • And we'll start with Brett and go down the line.

  • BRETT HEYMAN: Just fast.

  • Getting everything fast.

  • That's all I keep hearing.

  • STEVEN ALAN: I think technology.

  • I mean, I'm seeing a lot more technical fabrics

  • than I did before, performance-based fabrics.

  • I think people are kind of more and more curious about that.

  • LISA GREEN: Leah, you're up.

  • LEAH CHERNIKOFF: Yeah, I think speed certainly.

  • And I mean, because-- I don't know.

  • I do think people wait till the last minute.

  • I know I do.

  • So there's that.

  • And then if I were to name of a product, I think the jumpsuit.

  • Yeah.

  • LAUREN SHERMAN: Yeah, I think that people

  • are just more and more interested.

  • And I think stores and retailers are

  • going to try to do more and more.

  • They're going to experiment more with stuff in-store.

  • I know a couple of stories that are opening here

  • in the fall that are really trying

  • to make the store experience immersive.

  • Maybe they're going to go too far.

  • But people are definitely experimenting a lot

  • with that type of thing too, and bringing

  • that whole multi-channel thing into Omni channel, or whatever.

  • I hate that word.

  • But you know what I mean.

  • LISA GREEN: Well thank you guys again.

  • I hope everybody enjoyed it.

  • And we appreciate you guys taking the time

  • to come down here.

  • [APPLAUSE]

LISA GREEN: OK.

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