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  • SUROOSH ALVI: It's late.

  • We're deep in the heart of it now.

  • I don't know how much water we have.

  • We haven't eaten in a really long time.

  • And my glasses are fogging up because it's so hot.

  • And I can't see.

  • And I'm walking in the mud.

  • I don't know, man.

  • I think this might be the stupidest

  • thing I've ever done.

  • The Democratic Republic of Congo.

  • It's one of the poorest countries in the world, and

  • thanks to insanely complicated mix of politics, armed

  • conflict, and corruption, it's also one of the most

  • under-reported.

  • It also happens to be home to a nondescript black rock known

  • as coltan, a vital ingredient in the production of nearly

  • every cell phone and computer on the planet.

  • Without coltan, our technology-driven lives would

  • come to a screeching halt.

  • And Congo has 80% of the world's supply.

  • Congo also has cassiterite, gold, and a slew of other

  • minerals that make the world go round.

  • Now, you'd think that having so much of the stuff would be

  • good for Congo, but the reality is far from the case.

  • There's a reason they're called conflict minerals.

  • [SHOUTING]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Since the mid 1990s, armed groups have used

  • these minerals to fund a series of fantastically

  • complicated and horrifically violent wars.

  • MALE SPEAKER: We have to kill them.

  • We have to kill them.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: And as the tech boom drove up the price of

  • these minerals, violence skyrocketed.

  • Slaves to technology that we are, we had see for ourselves

  • where these minerals were coming from and what these

  • rebels were fighting for.

  • MALE SPEAKERS: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: So together with my cameraman Jake and producer

  • Jason, we hopped on a plane and flew to Congo.

  • Our first stop was Kinshasa.

  • To say that Congo's natural resources have been more of a

  • curse than a blessing would be an understatement.

  • Conrad described this place as "the vilest scramble for loot

  • that has ever disfigured the human conscience." That was

  • written in the 1800s, right around the time that Belgian

  • colonists were stripping the country of its rich supply of

  • ivory and rubber, killing nearly half the population in

  • the process.

  • In the 1960s, it was the United States that was after

  • Congo's cobalt for its Cold War fighter jets, leading to

  • its support for a dictator who renamed the country Zaire and

  • embezzled billions of dollars.

  • MOBUTO SESE SEKO: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Today, it's the global demand for technology

  • that is inadvertently fueling the conflict in Congo.

  • The statistics we read are staggering.

  • Five million people have died in the Congo because of this

  • conflict since the mid '90s until about 2007.

  • It's a huge number.

  • The most since any war since World War II.

  • The government in Kinshasa says that the war is over, but

  • Kinshasa is a long way from the jungles of eastern Congo,

  • where most of the rebel groups and the minerals that finance

  • them are located.

  • So we needed to go east to find out what was

  • really going on.

  • One thing that had been drilled into our heads before

  • we came to Congo was that you do not fly

  • on Congolese airlines.

  • This is a country whose aircraft are banned from

  • European airspace.

  • Last year, a crash that killed 20 people was the result of a

  • crocodile escaping from a passenger's carry on luggage.

  • But with Goma being over 1,000 miles away, we didn't have

  • much of a choice.

  • And as it turned out, that flight would be the most

  • comfortable experience of the days to come.

  • One thing we've noticed since we came here is that there are

  • fires burning everywhere in Congo.

  • I guess they're just burning their garbage.

  • But it kind of feels apocalyptic at times.

  • Watch out.

  • We're in Goma.

  • It's in eastern Congo, right on the Rwandan border.

  • This has been the epicenter of the conflict since 1994.

  • It's also the center for humanitarian aid.

  • There are 51 different international organizations

  • based here.

  • As you can see, there's UN guys everywhere around us.

  • It's kind of chaotic.

  • We're also pretty close to the mines where coltan is

  • extracted from, and we're going to go check that out.

  • When we got to Goma, we met up with Tim Freccia, a veteran

  • crisis and conflict photographer who has worked in

  • Congo for years.

  • He told us that we were under-dressed for our trip to

  • the cold mountain mining town of Numbi, so we went shopping.

  • I've got a nice polo here.

  • I got a Minnesota Golden Gophers hoodie.

  • Jake got a great Carhartt.

  • But I think this might be a strong look when I'm going to

  • interview the militia.

  • Some Wu wear.

  • The only problem is it's fucking disgusting.

  • Is it pretty good?

  • MALE SPEAKER: Yeah.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Yeah, you like it?

  • MALE SPEAKER: I like it.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: He likes it.

  • We got our outfits.

  • So we're going to visit the mines today, the Numbi mines.

  • It's where they extract coltan from.

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: And cassiterite and tourmaline, and some other

  • precious stones.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: This is Horeb.

  • He's our new buddy.

  • He's our new best friend.

  • He knows everyone.

  • He's a bit of a celebrity in these parts.

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: [SPEAKING FRENCH]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: He's got a TV show.

  • What's your show called?

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: Monusco Realites.

  • It's a kind of Congo reality.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Is it safe to say that you're a Congolese

  • reality TV star?

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: I'm a celebrity for many Congolese, just

  • because I tell them the stories which they--

  • SUROOSH ALVI: They don't know.

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: They don't know.

  • I tell stories about Congo.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: I've driven a lot of treacherous roads

  • before, but this one seems to be the worst.

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: We are still going up.

  • Up and up.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Oh my god, I can't even look right now.

  • This is completely fucked.

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: Yeah, Yeah.

  • I saw vehicles, they went down.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Fall down the hill?

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: It's not a safe road, yeah.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: We figured that out.

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: Despite the beauty of this place.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Yeah, it's beautiful.

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: Yeah.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: What if we all just push him out?

  • Straight out?

  • Nothing's working this way.

  • He's not getting anywhere.

  • MALE SPEAKERS: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Where did all these people appear from?

  • Like, we're in the middle of nowhere.

  • I thought you were kidding when you said

  • hiring local labor.

  • They just conveniently had a shovel, as well.

  • MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Like, as soon as we sank into the mud hole, the

  • kids were all like, thumbs up, we got him.

  • Now they're all here, and they're going to work until

  • they get us out, and they're gonna get paid.

  • MALE SPEAKERS: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Yes, yes.

  • We finally got out.

  • But before long, we got stuck again.

  • And again.

  • And again.

  • Until one thing became very clear.

  • We were not making it back to Goma anytime soon.

  • It looks like we're probably going to end up sleeping at

  • the mines tonight, which is a bit odd.

  • I can't believe connecting two land cruisers

  • with seatbelts worked.

  • They're saying we have to hurry because it's going to

  • rain again soon, and if we don't get past this patch of

  • red earth, we're going to be stuck sleeping here.

  • When we finally got to Numbi, we had to smooth talk the

  • local officials into showing us the mines.

  • So these are all the powerful dudes of the town.

  • Yet another negotiation.

  • Bonjour, Suroosh.

  • MALE SPEAKER: [INAUDIBLE].

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Nice to meet you.

  • [FRENCH].

  • This way.

  • In what would become a running theme for the rest of our

  • trip, the locals said the mines were just over there

  • around the bend.

  • And then we would get over there and around the bend,

  • they were just over there, and over the hill.

  • Like a quick two kilometers.

  • Holy fuck.

  • I'm about to pass out, Jake.

  • Hey Jake, how many people are working?

  • JAKE BURGHART: None.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Really?

  • JAKE BURGHART: They've all gone home.

  • We have to come back tomorrow.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: The mine had no miners.

  • It was completely empty.

  • The locals told us that this mine in particular is owned by

  • a member of Congo Senate who lives in Kinshasa, and that

  • his miners pull 15 kilos of coltan out of it every day.

  • At $30 a kilo, that's about $13,000 a month, a lot of

  • money in a country where most of the people survive on less

  • than $1 a day.

  • And while the senator gets the big rocks, the bottom feeders

  • get by on what washes down the stream.

  • So we got totally set up.

  • Basically when we pulled into town.

  • MALE SPEAKER: Lower, lower, lower your voice.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Basically we got totally set up.

  • When we pulled into town, alarm bells went off.

  • And they said yeah, we'll show you a mine, and they took us

  • on a trek far, far away from town to a mine where they sent

  • in advance someone ahead of us to clear everyone out because

  • there were kids working in the mine.

  • Then we got there, and they're like, oh, yeah, everybody's

  • just gone home for the day.

  • They actually fessed up to that to Horeb, to our guy, so,

  • I'm still pissed off.

  • It's gonna be an interesting night.

  • Probably about 5:30 in the morning here in the Numbi

  • mining town.

  • This is a town with no electricity,

  • with no running water.

  • We basically got stranded out here, which wasn't really part

  • of the plan.

  • They didn't take too kindly to us initially, but they were

  • even worried about our safety, because we're in South Kivu,

  • and they're not used to this kind of thing.

  • A bunch of foreigners spending a night here.

  • They gave us this little house to stay in.

  • Then they offered us a couple soldiers to guard

  • us all night long.

  • You know, yesterday we experienced them trying to

  • keep some secrets hidden.

  • So today we have a plan.

  • We're going to break free.

  • We're going to go a couple kilometers, and we're going to

  • set up and wait for the miners to show up so we can really

  • see how these mines operate.

  • This is the main street of the Numbi mining town.

  • It's very muddy today, after raining all night.

  • It reeks of urine.

  • Here's my breakfast, along with two Advils and some kind

  • of mega antibiotic cure all.

  • When anything goes wrong in Africa, you take that pill.

  • Plugs up your ass, reduces fever.

  • Well, so much for getting a head start on everyone.

  • Oh, shit.

  • Jason, Jason, come here.

  • I think it's like, quicksand.

  • I just kept going down.

  • This is not going to be fun.

  • This is the main Numbi mine.

  • Just got there.

  • These houses are all miners who work right here.

  • It took two days of trekking and looking.

  • We're finally here in the heart of the mine.

  • This is where all kinds of minerals are coming out of,

  • everything from tantalum to coltan.

  • MALE SPEAKER: This is what you call tourmaline.

  • I can show you one that is the biggest one.

  • [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE].

  • They say that this is the most expensive.

  • This is where they get it.

  • You can see that this man is fortunate, because he got this

  • block of stone, which has everything.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: A lot inside.

  • MALE SPEAKER: Yeah, it has a lot inside.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: It seems so primitive, with their bare

  • hands, and with shovels.

  • They're pulling it out, and a lot of it ends up in super

  • high tech devices.

  • And you never think when you're using those devices

  • back home, that this is how it actually starts.

  • And that without this process, it wouldn't exist, or it

  • wouldn't work.

  • The mine that we finally saw was so different from the

  • horror stories that we had heard.

  • We were expecting to see forced child labor, inhumane

  • conditions, and rebels everywhere.

  • Maybe things were changing in eastern Congo, or at least

  • that's how this mine made it seem.

  • In recent years, activist organizations in the US and

  • Europe have been pressuring electronics companies into

  • taking greater responsibility for keeping rebels out of

  • their supply chain.

  • And in 2010, the US Congress passed legislation forcing

  • companies to declare their use of conflict minerals.

  • MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: And who gets the credit for this change?

  • Is it the government in Kinshasha?

  • [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Why did the government want

  • to make these changes?

  • Was it because of the pressure of western corporations and

  • governments?

  • MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Things seemed so peaceful that it was hard to

  • imagine that there was ever a war here.

  • Everything that we've been walking on, during the like,

  • second Congolese war, this was like a battlefield.

  • The mine was an almost picture perfect symbol of progress,

  • but I couldn't help but wonder how long it would be before a

  • bunch of guys showed up with guns and screwed it all up.

  • TIM FRECCIA: That's the whole point with conflict minerals

  • is it's in every businessman's interest to

  • keep conflict going.

  • Then there's no control, there's no government.

  • There's nobody watching whether or not

  • children are working.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Our last stop in Numbi was the

  • coltan storage facility.

  • And not surprisingly, it was the nicest building in town.

  • MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Let me see?

  • Wow.

  • This is coltan.

  • This is what it's all about.

  • 80% of the world's supply comes from here in Congo.

  • Thank you, Congo, for providing this for us.

  • MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: And that's cassarite.

  • Is it pure, solid cassarite?

  • MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: And this is basically what tin, tin ore

  • comes from.

  • MALE SPEAKER: Yeah, it's heavy.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: It's heavy.

  • We struggled for two days to find the mines, and eventually

  • we got there.

  • We are going back to Goma on motorcycles because roads are

  • so bad now, and so dangerous that they're saying that a

  • Land Cruiser almost fell off a cliff last night.

  • We'd seen one of the mines where coltan comes from.

  • We're happy that the conditions there seem to be

  • improving, but with so many armed groups operating in

  • eastern Congo, that could change in an instant.

  • But where did all these rebels come from in the first place?

  • Most people know about the Rwandan genocide.

  • Hutus killing Tutsis.

  • But few understand how it led to a war in neighboring Congo.

  • Here's the short version.

  • Millions of Rwandan refugees streaming across the border.

  • Among them, many of the Hutu soldiers

  • involved in the genocide.

  • Soldiers that the new Tutsi leadership in

  • Rwanda wanted dead.

  • Before long, eastern Congo became home to a litany of

  • armed militias supported by foreign countries.

  • We're on our way to meet the Mai Mai.

  • They are a witch doctor militia and self-proclaimed

  • protectors of Congolese soil.

  • They are the most feared militia in the country.

  • It is believed they have special powers.

  • They can fly, they can disappear.

  • And bullets pass through them like water.

  • And we're going to go camping with them.

  • Most of the groups who have been using minerals to fuel

  • their military operations have been from the countries

  • surrounding Congo.

  • The Mai Mai are a sort of patriotic response to this

  • influx of foreigners, and they are the all too often

  • overlooked link in the vicious circle that is conflict in

  • eastern Congo.

  • As long as they're convinced that Congo is being corrupted

  • by outsiders, they will keep fighting.

  • [CAR HONKING]

  • MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: So we left Goma three hours ago, and on our

  • drive here, again, beautiful.

  • Eastern Congo is stunning.

  • But as we approached Masisi territory in this town that

  • we're in now, things were getting worse.

  • More humanitarian aid vehicles everywhere.

  • Everybody here needs help.

  • The locals, they're dirt poor, and they're hungry.

  • Horeb is going to talk to people to sort shit out.

  • Make sure we don't get into any trouble as we proceed.

  • The Mai Mai agreed to let us into their world, which we're

  • really excited to see.

  • MULTIPLE SPEAKERS: Chuck Norris.

  • Chuck Norris.

  • JAKE BURGHART: This is the second time people have

  • thought I was Chuck Norris.

  • MALE SPEAKER: Yeah?

  • JAKE BURGHART: I didn't even have a headband on.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: So what's happening?

  • We're waiting for the motorcycles?

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: We are still bargaining about the price for

  • the motorcycles.

  • Going to that area is not easy.

  • It's something like going to a war zone.

  • People here are saying that the last time when they went

  • there, they were beaten by Mai Mai when they

  • took some people there.

  • Then they're asking us to guarantee that when they spend

  • the night there, if we shall assure that nobody will beat

  • them, and nobody will traumatize them.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: The further we got from Masisi, the reality

  • of the situation we were heading into began to sink in.

  • The various rebel groups that still occupy much of the bush

  • are packs of battle-hardened, murderous thugs, whose names

  • have become synonymous with the word rape.

  • FEMALE SPEAKER 1: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: And the most notorious rebel group

  • operating in Congo today is the FDLR, a Hutu power group

  • tied to the perpetrators of the Rwandan genocide.

  • FEMALE SPEAKER 2: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: So this is where the road ends.

  • Now we wait for some motorcycles.

  • We sat around waiting at a nearby UN post for the

  • motorcycle guys we hired to arrive.

  • Yeah, the same guys that were harassing us when

  • we arrived in Masisi.

  • We got six kilometers from the point where the road ends for

  • the car, and we're waiting for the motorcycles.

  • Our motorcycles aren't coming, or they're not here yet.

  • And this is the UN base in the area.

  • We had to register with them, which kind of

  • makes me a bit nervous.

  • They say it's just a formality in case something happens.

  • The Congolese government doesn't really have any

  • jurisdiction where we're going.

  • So you turn the phone on for 15 minutes.

  • UN OFFICER: Only 15.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: OK.

  • UN OFFICER: That is only for you.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: In the evening, and in the morning.

  • 6:00 and 6:00.

  • UN OFFICER: No.

  • Only--

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Only once.

  • UN OFFICER: Only 15 minutes.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: In 24 hours.

  • OK.

  • I understand.

  • Thank you.

  • JAKE BURGHART: Thank you.

  • UN OFFICER: We are not using this line.

  • We have radio sets.

  • We are specially open for you.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: OK.

  • UN OFFICER: For 15 minutes.

  • If you have some mess, you can talk.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: OK.

  • Thank you.

  • And then we were standing there, and I just thought, we

  • should just ask them if we can sleep here, because I don't

  • like the idea of if our motorcycle guys show up, we go

  • six kilometers with them, and then it's going to get dark,

  • it's going to rain, and we're gong to be wandering through

  • the Congolese jungle in the dark, trying to

  • find the Mai Mai.

  • Sounds a bit sketchy to me.

  • Just as I was getting comfortable, the motorcycles

  • guys arrived, and we were off, racing to get to the Mai Mai

  • camp before dark.

  • As we were riding deeper into the jungle, we got stopped by

  • a bunch of young guys with guns.

  • We'd been told that the Congolese military, the FARDC,

  • were a little rough around the edges.

  • But there was something about these guys

  • that made us nervous.

  • MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: And that's when Horeb whispered to us that

  • these guys were the dreaded Rwandan Hutu rebels, the FDLR.

  • Basically, the last people in the world we

  • wanted to run into.

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: I knew that these people we met on the way

  • were Rwandans and not Mai Mai just because they were

  • speaking in Kinyarwandan, and this is what the

  • Mai Mai don't do.

  • [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: This is what people know about the FDLR.

  • If you don't cooperate or so, you can pay your life.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: We'd heard rumors that for some reason,

  • the Mai Mai and the FDLR were working together, but it

  • wasn't until the creepy commander of their outpost

  • gave us four of his armed guards to take us to the Mai

  • Mai camp that we actually believed it.

  • So we continued our journey through the jungle at night.

  • You see anything?

  • I don't know how far we are from the final destination,

  • the Mai Mai camp, but it's late.

  • We're deep in the heart of it now.

  • I don't know, man.

  • I think this might be the stupidest

  • thing I've ever done.

  • How far are we?

  • We arrived here 14 hours after we left Vilma this morning.

  • The last three hours of which was walking through the jungle

  • in the dark, which is a first for me.

  • I'm not afraid to say it, I am soft, living in New York City,

  • sitting at my desk 12 hours a day.

  • I'm a professional emailer, just [TYPING SOUNDS].

  • I wanted to stay with the Indian UN guys, because their

  • place was great.

  • Because I knew there was no way we were going to get there

  • in 90 minutes, and I knew we were going to end up walking

  • through a Congolese jungle at night.

  • And it sucked, but we're here.

  • MALE SPEAKERS: [SINGING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: We're in the Mai Mai camp right now.

  • We are way off the grid, deep in the bush.

  • We're so far out here that the UN jurisdiction ended, and

  • then the Congolese government troops, the FARDC, their

  • jurisdiction ended.

  • We encountered some Rwandan rebels going

  • through that area.

  • And after that, it's just bush.

  • But hopefully we're gonna meet the general now.

  • We want to interview him and get an understanding of why

  • they're the most political and feared

  • militia in this country.

  • It would be great if we could see the special

  • powers that they have.

  • I want to see them turn themselves into animals.

  • I think that would be pretty cool.

  • All right.

  • I need Imodium.

  • MALE SPEAKERS: [SINGING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: The term Mai Mai is shorthand for the wide

  • assortment of local militias in Eastern Congo.

  • General Janvier is the leader of a group known as the

  • Patriotic Alliance for a Free and Sovereign Congo, also

  • known as the APCLS.

  • The thing about rebel leaders is that much of their power

  • lies in their mystique.

  • They don't want to seem overeager to meet the press.

  • So we had a wait around until the general could carve some

  • time out of his busy schedule to meet with us.

  • MALE SPEAKER: He looks like Chuck Norris.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: In the meantime, we hung out

  • with some of his soldiers.

  • Horeb, how many times has he been shot?

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • APCLS SOLDIER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Who was he fighting when he was shot?

  • APCLS SOLDIER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • APCLS SOLDIER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • APCLS SOLDIER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: When they say Tutsis, it's shorthand for the

  • Rwandan government, who they blame for

  • most of Congo's problems.

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • APCLS SOLDIER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Does he have a name, the dog?

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: Bobby.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Bobby.

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: They say that Bobby has also battled and

  • contributed to many fighting.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Really?

  • But he looks so nice.

  • He just winked at me.

  • MALE SPEAKERS: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Just as our friend was ordered to stop

  • speaking, we received word that the general was finally

  • ready to see us.

  • But in order to do so, we had to cross one of the sketchiest

  • Lord of the Flies- esque bridges imaginable.

  • Then we were led to an even more remote encampment.

  • Then, after being surrounded by heavily armed guards, we

  • met with the general's secretary, who meticulously

  • transcribed our every word.

  • The general finally granted us an audience.

  • We can start?

  • HOREB BUJAMBO: Yeah.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: OK, monsieur le general, thank

  • you for your time.

  • My first question is, since the time of Belgian

  • colonization, the natural resources of this country have

  • been taken from the Congolese people.

  • As the protectors of Congolese soil, what is your view on the

  • mining that's taken place in the country and the way

  • foreign corporations and governments are

  • involved with that?

  • GENERAL JANVIER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: It seemed like Janvier's beef was not with

  • foreigners in general, but with the current

  • government of Rwanda.

  • So I was starting to understand why they'd team up

  • with the FDLR.

  • It seems to me that you have a common enemy with the FDLR,

  • and I'm wondering, are you friends with them?

  • And also, do you think that they should leave this

  • country, along with the rest of the Rwandans?

  • GENERAL JANVIER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Now I was totally confused.

  • Were they or weren't they allied with the FDLR?

  • The UN group of experts report that you and your group have

  • been working with FDLR, and it's very important for us to

  • get clarity on this from you, so we

  • communicate this report correctly.

  • GENERAL JANVIER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Even though I knew this was total bullshit,

  • because it was the FDLR who escorted us to the Mai Mai

  • camp, I didn't want to piss off our new friends, so I

  • decided to change topics.

  • Could you explain to me what some of these special powers

  • are that the Mai Mai have?

  • GENERAL JANVIER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: I am a Muzungu, but I am not white.

  • And I believe in God.

  • GENERAL JANVIER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: So the general wouldn't show off his magical

  • powers, but what he did insist on showing us were his

  • prisoners, two FARDC soldiers they kidnapped two months ago

  • while patrolling the area.

  • This was a remarkably weird, unsettling, and Heart of

  • Darkness moment.

  • It seems that they're pretty healthy, and haven't been

  • abused or beaten.

  • So why are you being nice to them?

  • GENERAL JANVIER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: After the general served up his

  • propaganda, he fed us a nice, hot meal of

  • Congolese rice and beans.

  • It's the first meal we've had in a few days.

  • We're about to trek through the jungle.

  • This time in the middle of the afternoon, so I

  • expect it will be hot.

  • Took us 14 hours to get here.

  • Hopefully it won't take that long to get back.

  • He was a nice guy, the general.

  • On our trek back, we managed to piss off

  • the creepy FDLR commander.

  • FDLR COMMANDER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

  • SUROOSH ALVI: Got extorted by our motorcycle guys.

  • What happened?

  • JASON MOJICA: Well, they're holding out for like, a whole

  • lot more money.

  • SUROOSH ALVI: The UN guys are gonna get involved.

  • And had our lives threatened by a bunch of locals

  • drunk on 12% beer.

  • But the strangest part of it all was that by this point,

  • after just one week in the Congo, all this lunacy seemed

  • completely normal.

  • Leaving tomorrow.

  • The trip has come to an end.

  • It was good vibes, it was scary at times.

  • We learned a lot.

  • We had to work hard to get to the story.

  • Whether we were going to the mines in Numbi, or whether we

  • were trying to meet with General Janvier.

  • It's an incredibly complicated situation in place.

  • There are no easy answers.

  • But we--

  • well, how do I end that?

  • There are no easy answers.

  • It's easy to pin the country's problems on the past.

  • On the legacy of brutality by Belgian colonialists and

  • kleptocratic rulers, the practices of Western

  • corporations, or wars with neighboring nations.

  • But that doesn't make any of them go away.

  • If we demanded conflict-free electronics, maybe the rebel

  • groups would simply melt away into the jungle.

  • Or maybe it would lead to businesses avoiding coltan

  • from Congo altogether, making one of the poorest countries

  • in the world even poorer, which is kind of what seems to

  • be happening.

  • Congo is one of the most under-reported stories in the

  • world, and now we understand why.

  • It's so insanely complicated that's it's hard to

  • know where to start.

  • We did, however, see some signs of hope and progress.

  • But it's a fragile progress in a place where anyone with a

  • gun and an agenda can basically have

  • his own little kingdom.

  • So until the government in Kinshasa takes control of its

  • territory and ensures that its army is the only one operating

  • in the jungle, Congo will continue to be a war zone.

  • And instead of being a blessing, the minerals that

  • fuel this conflict will continue to be a curse.

SUROOSH ALVI: It's late.

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