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  • If we find that the president of the United States

  • abused his power and invited foreign interference

  • in our elections, or if he sought to condition, coerce

  • extort or bribe an ally,

  • if this is not impeachable conduct, what is?”

  • Ambassador Taylor and Mr. Kent,

  • I'd like to welcome you here.

  • I'd like to congratulate you for passing the Democrats'

  • star chamber auditions held for the last weeks

  • in the basement of the Capitol.

  • It seems you agreed, witting or unwittingly,

  • to participate in a drama.

  • But the main performance,

  • the Russia hoax, has ended and you've

  • been cast in the low-rent Ukrainian sequel.”

  • “I encountered an irregular informal channel

  • of U.S. policymaking

  • with respect to Ukraine, unaccountable to Congress.

  • The odd push to make President Zelensky publicly

  • commit to investigations of Burisma,

  • and alleged interference in the 2016 election,

  • showed how the official foreign policy of the

  • United States was undercut by the irregular

  • efforts led by Mr. Giuliani.”

  • Did you ever try to wrest control

  • of the irregular channel?”

  • “I didn't try to wrest control of the irregular channel

  • do that.

  • At the time when I —”

  • Well why not though, if you had your concerns?”

  • Because Mr. Counselor, at the time,

  • both channels were interested

  • in having a meeting between President Zelensky

  • and President Trump.”

  • New leaders, particularly countries that are trying

  • to have good footing in the international arena,

  • see a meeting with the U.S. president in the Oval Office

  • at the White House as the ultimate sign of endorsement

  • and support from the United States.”

  • It's one thing to try to leverage

  • a meeting in the White House.

  • It's another thing, I thought, to leverage

  • security assistance, security assistance to a country at war.”

  • You also said that more Ukrainians would undoubtedly

  • die without U.S. assistance.

  • Why is that?”

  • This assistance allows the Ukrainian military

  • to deter further incursions by the Russians

  • against their ownagainst Ukrainian territory.”

  • In your deposition you said this and you said it again

  • the first hour of the majority,

  • 'My clear understanding was security assistance money

  • would not come until President Zelensky committed

  • to pursue the investigation.'

  • Now with all due respect, Ambassador,

  • your clear understanding was obviously wrong

  • because it didn't happen.

  • President Zelensky didn't announce

  • he was going to investigate Burisma

  • or the Bidens.

  • Ambassador, you weren't on the call, were you?

  • You didn't listen on President Trump's call,

  • and President Zelensky's call?”

  • “I did not.”

  • You've never talked with Chief of Staff Mulvaney?”

  • “I never did.”

  • You never met the president?”

  • That's correct.”

  • This is what I can't believe.

  • And you're their star witness.

  • You're their first witness.”

  • Mr. Jordan —”

  • You're the guy, you're the guy based on this.

  • Based on

  • I mean, I've seen, I've seen church prayer chains

  • that are easier to understand than this.”

  • Mr. Kent, are you a never Trumper?”

  • “I am a career non-professional,

  • who serves whatever president is duly elected

  • and carries out the foreign policies of that president

  • and the United States.

  • And I've done that for 27 years for three

  • Republican presidents and two Democrat presidents.”

  • Ambassador Taylor are you a Never Trumper?”

  • No, sir.”

  • In this impeachment hearing today

  • where we impeach presidents for treason or bribery,

  • or other high crimes,

  • Where is the impeachable offense in that call?

  • Are either of you here today to assert

  • there was an impeachable offense in that call?

  • Shout it outanyone?”

  • Mr. Ratcliffe, If I could just respond let me just

  • reiterate that I'm not —”

  • “I've got one minute left.”

  • “I know and let me —”

  • Let me just make this —”

  • “I've just got 30 —”

  • Please allow the witness

  • You asked the witness a question, the witness —“

  • “I withdraw the question.”

  • “I'm not here to take one side or the other

  • Mr. Ratcliffe, I would just like to say that I'm not here

  • to do anything having to do with the

  • to decide about impeachment.

  • That is not what either of us are here to do.

  • This is your job.”

If we find that the president of the United States

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