字幕列表 影片播放 列印英文字幕 Today, we turn 今天,我們 to the question of distributive justice. 將問題轉向分配正義 How should income and wealth and power 收入、財富、權力和機會 and opportunities be distributed? 應該如何被分配? According to what principles? 根據什麼原則? John Rawls offers a detailed answer to that question. John Rawls對這個問題提供了詳細的答案 And we're going to examine and assess his answer to that question today. 而我們今天將檢驗並評估他對這個問題的答案 We put ourselves in a position to do so last time. 上一次我們這麼做 By trying to make sense of why he thinks. That principles of justice 是為了試圖了解他在想什麼 are best derived from a hypothetical contract. 正義的原則最好是由假設性契約所推導出來 And what matters is that the hypothetical contract be carried out in an original position of equality 其中重要的是這個假設性契約是否被以平等的方式執行 behind, what Rawls calls, the veil of ignorance. 也就是在Rawls所謂的無知之幕之後 So that much is clear? 這樣清楚了嗎? Alright, then let's turn to the principles OK,讓我們轉向道德原則 that Rawls says would be chosen behind the veil of ignorance. 也就是Rawls說的在無知之幕之後的選擇 First, he considered some of the major alternatives. 首先,他考量了一些主要的選擇 What about utilitarianism? 功利主義如何? Would the people in the original position choose to govern their collective lives 在原始狀態下,人們會選擇用功利主義的原則支配他們的群體生活, utilitarian principles, the greatest good for the greatest number 替多數人謀取最大福利嗎? No, they wouldn't, Rawls says. Rawls說他們不會 And the reason is, 理由是 that behind the veil of ignorance, everyone knows 在無知之幕之後,人人都很清楚 that once the veil goes up, and real life begins, 一旦布幕升起,真實人生就開始了 we will each want to be respected with dignity. 我們都希望被尊嚴地對待 Even if we turn out to be a member of a minority. 即使我們變成少數那一派 We don't want to be oppressed. 我們不想要被壓迫 And so we would agree 所以我們會同意 to reject utilitarianism, and instead to adopt 拒絕功利主義,反而會接納 as our first principle, equal basic liberties. 我們的第一個原則,平等的基本自由 Fundamental rights to freedom of speech, 基本權利:言論自由 freedom of assembly, religious liberty, 集會自由、宗教自由 freedom of conscience and the like. 思想自由等等 We wouldn't want to take the chance that we would wind up 我們不想冒這個風險,最後把我們自己變成 as members of an oppressed or a despised minority 被壓迫或是被排擠的少數成員 with the majority tyrannizing over us. 並使多數派壓迫我們 And so Rawls says utilitarianism would be rejected. 所以Rawls說功利主義會被拒絕 "Utilitarianism makes the mistake", Rawls writes, Rawls寫道:"功利主義犯下這些錯誤" "of forgetting, or at least not taking seriously,the distinction between persons." "或忘記,或至少不認真地看待人們之間的區別" And in the original position behind the veil of ignorance, we would recognize that and reject utilitarianism. 而在無知之幕後的原始狀態下,我們會認得並拒絕功利主義 We wouldn't trade off our fundamental rights and liberties for any economic advantages. 我們不會拿我們的基本權利與自由去交換任何經濟利益 That's the first principle. 這就是第一原則 Second principle has to do with social and economic inequalities. 第二原則和社會與經濟不平等有關 What would we agree to? 我們會同意什麼? Remember, we don't know whether we're going to wind up rich or poor. 請記住,我們不確定自己會變得富有或貧窮 Healthy or unhealthy. 健康或不健康 We don't know what kind of family we're going to come from. 我們不知道會出生於哪一種家庭 Whether we're going to inherit millions 我們會不會繼承百萬美金 or whether we will come from an impoverished family. 或是我們會不會出生於一貧如洗的家庭 So we might, at first thought, 一開始我們可能會想 say, "Well let's require an equal distribution of income and wealth." "讓我們要求收入與財富的公平分配" Just to be on the safe side. 預防萬一嘛 But then we would realize, 但後來我們理解到 that we could do better than that. 我們可以做更好 Even if we're unlucky and wind up at the bottom. 即使我們很不幸在社會底層出生 We could do better if we agree to a qualified principle of equality. 只要我們同意符合資格的公平原則,我們就可以過得更好 Rawls calls it "the Difference Principle". Rawls稱它為"差異原則" A principle that says, only those social and economic 這條原則說,只有那些社會和經濟地位不平等 inequalities will be permitted that work to the benefit of the least well off. 的人可以因此獲得利益 So we wouldn't reject all inequality of income and wealth. 所以我們不會拒絕所有的收入和財富不平等 We would allow some. 我們允許一些 But the test would be, 但測試會是 do they work to the benefit of everyone including those, 這原則是否讓所有人受益 or as he specifies, the principle, 或是他特別強調的原則 especially those at the bottom. 特別是那些社會底層的人 Only those inequalities would be accepted behind the veil of ignorance. 只有這些不平等可以在無知之幕後被接受 And so Rawls argues, only those inequalities that work to the benefit Rawls認為,只有這些照顧弱勢的不平等 of the least well off, are just. 能夠被稱為正當 We talked about the examples of 我們曾舉過幾個例子 Michael Jordan making 31 million dollars a year. 麥克喬丹一年賺三千一百萬美元 Of Bill Gates having a fortune in the tens of billions. 比爾蓋茲擁有數百億美元的財富 Would those inequalities be permitted under the difference principle? 這些不平等在差異原則下是否能夠被允許? Only if they were part of a system, those wage differentials, 除非他們是在一套薪水差異體系之下, that actually work to the advantage of least well off. 而這套體系確實能夠使弱勢者得到幫助 Well, what would that system be? 那麼,這套系統會是什麼樣子? Maybe it turns out that as a practical matter 也許會涉及一些實際的議題 you have to provide incentives 你必須提供誘因 to attract the right people to certain jobs. 去吸引對的人從事某些工作 And when you do, having those people in those jobs 當這些人獲得工作時 will actually help those at the bottom. 社會底層的人們也會獲得幫助 Strictly speaking, Rawls's argument for the difference principle 嚴格說起來,Rawls對於差異原則的論點是 is that it would be chosen behind the veil of ignorance. 即便在無知之幕之後,它依然會被選上 Let me hear what you think about 讓我聽看看你們的想法 Rawls's claim that these two principles would be chosen 關於Rawls聲稱即便在無知之幕之後 behind the veil of ignorance. 這兩項原則也會被選中 Is there anyone who disagrees that they would be chosen? 在場有人不同意這兩項原則會被選中的嗎? Alright, let's start up in the balcony, if that's alright. 如果沒問題的話就從陽台那邊開始 Go ahead. 請說 OK, your argument depends upon us believing that 你的論點基於我們相信 we would argue in said policy, or justice from a bottom. 政策會照顧那些位於社會底層的 For the disadvantaged. 弱勢者 And I just don't see from a proof standpoint, 但我從證據的角度卻無法看出 where we've proven that. 我們證明了這點 Why not the top? 為什麼不是頂端的人們? Right, and what's your name? - Mike. 好的,你叫什麼名字? Mike Mike, alright, good question. Mike,這是個好問題 Put yourself behind the veil of ignorance. 把你自己放在無知之幕後面 Enter into the thought experiment. 進入這個想像的實驗 What principles would you choose? 你會選擇哪個原則? How would you think it through? 你會如何思考? Well, I would say things like, even Harvard's existence 恩,我會說即使是哈佛這所學校 is an example of preaching toward the top. 都是照顧最頂端的一個例子 Because Harvard takes the top academics. 因為哈佛接受一流的學術人才 And I didn't know when I was born how smart I would be. 而我出生時也不知道我有多聰明 But I worked my life to get to a place of this caliber. 我也是透過努力才達到這個水準 Now, if you had said Harvard's going to randomly take 1600 people 如果你現在說哈佛將隨機招收一千六百名學生 of absolutely no qualification, we'd all be saying, 而沒有任何的評量機制,那我們會說 "There's not much to work for." "這沒有什麼值得努力的" And so what principle would you choose? 那你會選擇哪項原則? In that situation I would say a merit based one. 在這個情況下,我會說根據實力程度決定的那一個 One where I don't necessarily know, but I would rather have a system that 我不知道如何形容,但我寧願選擇一個系統 rewards me based on my efforts. 會根據我的努力而給予相對應的報酬 So you, Mike, behind the veil of ignorance, 所以你,Mike,在無知之幕後面 would choose a merit-based system, 你會選擇一個人們會根據實力程度 where people are rewarded according to their efforts? 而被給予報酬的系統? Alright, fair enough. What would you say? 好的,這很合理。你說什麼? Go ahead. 請說 My question is, if the merit-based argument is based on 我的問題是,這個以實力為基礎的論點是否建立在 when everyone is at a level of equality? 每個人公平競爭的前提之下? Where from that position, you're rewarded to where you get, 在這個條件下,你能達到什麼程度取決於你的努力 or is it regardless of what advantages you may have 或是無視你在教育一開始時的優勢 when you began your education to get where you are here? 只評估你的實力到哪個程度? I think what the question you're asking is saying that 我想你問的問題是 if we want to look at, whatever, utilitarianism, policy, 如果我們檢視功利主義、政策 do you want to maximize world wealth. 你是否想極大化世界的財富 And I think a system that rewards merit 而我認為一個會獎勵實力的系統 is the one that we've pretty much all established, 也就是我們現在所採用的系統 is what is best for all of us. 是對我們來說最好的 Despite the fact that some of us may be in the second percentile 即使我們當中有些人屬於2%的等級 and some may be in the 98th percentile. 而有些則屬於98%的等級 At the end of the day it lifts that lowest based level, 而到最終,最基本的評量標準 a community that rewards effort as opposed to an differences. 也就是這個社會獎勵的是個人努力而不是先天的差異 But, I don't understand how you're rewards someone's efforts 但我不明白的是你如何獎勵他人的努力 who clearly has had, not you, but maybe myself, 不論是你還是我 advantages throughout, to get where I am here. 都可能是佔有某種優勢才能到今天這個位子 I mean, I can't say that somebody else 我是說,我不能說一個或許 who maybe worked as hard as I did 和我一樣努力的人 would have had the same opportunity to come 會和我一樣有相同的機會 to a school like this. 來念這所學校 Alright, let's look at that point. What's your name? 好的,我們來檢視這個論點。你叫什麼名字? Kate. -Kate, you suspect that the ability Kate. Kate,你懷疑進入頂尖學校的能力 to get into top schools may largely depend 有很大一部分是根據 on coming from an affluent family. 是否出生於具有優勢的家庭? Having a favorable family background, 擁有不錯的家庭背景 social, cultural, economic advantages and so on? 社會、文化、經濟這類的優勢? I mean, economic, but yes, social, cultural. 我是說,經濟上的,沒錯,社會、文化上的 All of those advantages, for sure. 的確是這些優勢沒錯 Someone did a study, of the 146 selective 有人曾對全美國的一百四十六所大學 colleges and universities in the United States. 做過一項研究 And they looked at the students 而他們調查這些 in those colleges and universities 大學的學生 to try to find out what their background was, their economic background. 試圖找出他們的經濟背景 What percentage do you think, come from the bottom quarter 你認為有多少百分比的人 of the income scale? 是出生於以收入衡量當中最底層四分之一的家庭? You know what the figure is? 你知道數字是多少嗎? Only three percent of students, at the most selective colleges and universities 最多只有百分之三的學生 come from poor backgrounds. 是來自於貧窮的背景 Over 70 percent come from affluent families. 超過百分之七十的學生來自於富裕的家庭 Let's go one step further then, and try to address Mike's challenge. 讓我們更進一步,面對Mike的挑戰 Rawls actually has two arguments, not one, Rawls實際上有兩個論點,不只一個 in favor of his principles of justice. 支持他的正義原則 And in particular, of the difference principle. 特別是支持差異原則 One argument is the official argument, 其中一個論點就是剛剛討論的 what would be chosen behind the veil of ignorance. 人們在無知之幕後面會做出什麼樣的選擇 Some people challenge that argument, saying, 有些人會挑戰這項論點: "Maybe people would want to take their chances. "人們或許會想冒險" Maybe people would be gamblers behind the veil of ignorance. "也許人們在無知之幕後面會是賭徒" Hoping that they would wind up on top." "希望自己可以出生在社會頂層" That's one challenge that has been put to Rawls. 這是人們對Rawls論點的挑戰 But backing up the argument from the original position 但從原始狀態來看支持這項論點的是 is the second argument. 第二個論點 And that is the straightforwardly moral argument. 而這是非常直接的道德論點 And it goes like this, 敘述起來像這樣 it says, 它說 the distribution of income and wealth and opportunities 收入、財富和機會的分配 should not be based on factors 不該基於與人們自身努力 for which people can claim no credit. 無關的因素 It shouldn't be based on factors that are arbitrary from a moral point of view. 它不該根據於一個從道德上來看變化無常的觀點 Rawls illustrates this by considering several rival theories of justice. Rawls衡量幾種理論來證明這點 He begins with the theory of justice 他從正義理論開始 that most everyone these days would reject. 現今大多數人會反對這理論 A feudal aristocracy. 貴族世襲制 What's wrong with the allocation of life prospects in a feudal aristocracy? 人生的安排在世襲制中哪裡有問題? Rawls says, well the thing that's obviously wrong about it is Rawls說,很明顯的錯誤之處在於 that people's life prospects are determined 人們的生命被出生在何處 by the accident of birth. 這個隨機事件所決定 Are you born to a noble family or to a family of peasants and serfs? 你是出生在貴族家庭、佃農家庭或是農奴家庭? And that's it. You can't rise. 而就這樣了,你無法向上爬 It's not your doing where you wind up 你的階級與你的努力無關 or what opportunities you have. 你的機會也與你的努力無關 But that's arbitrary from a moral point of view. 這個狀況從道德觀點來看太反覆無常 And so that objection to feudal aristocracy 因此反對階級世襲制 leads, and historically has lead, people to say, 從歷史上來看,會使人們轉而支持 careers should be open to talents. 工作應該根據於才能 There should be formal equality of opportunity 機會應該要均等 regardless of the accident of birth. 並不該和出生背景有太多的關聯 Every person should be free to strive, to work, 每個人應該要自由地去努力、去工作 to apply for any job in the society. 去嘗試社會上的任何工作 And then, if you open up jobs, and you allow people to apply, 然後,如果你開放工作,允許人們來申請 and to work as hard as they can, then the results are just. 讓他們可以盡力工作,那麼結果就是公平的 So it's more or less the libertarian system that we've discussed 這個情況或多或少像是我們前幾周討論過的 in earlier weeks. 自由意志體系 What does Rawls think about this? Rawls對於這個的想法是什麼? He says it's an improvement. 他說這是個改善 It's an improvement because it doesn't take as fixed 這是個改善因為它不是憑藉 the accident of birth. 出生在何處這個事件 But even with formal equality of opportunity 但即使正式的機會均等 the libertarian conception doesn't extend that, 自由意志論者的概念也未延伸至該處 doesn't extend its insight far enough. 理念延伸的不夠遠 Because if you let everybody run the race, 因為如果你讓所有人賽跑 everybody can enter the race, but some people start 每個人都可以參賽,但有些人在不同的起始點上 at different starting points, that race isn't going to be fair. 這個競賽就不會是公平的 Intuitively, he says, the most obvious injustice of this system 他說,直覺上來看,這個系統最不公平之處在於 is that it permits distributive shares to be improperly influenced 它允許分配的部分受到不適當的影響 by factors arbitrary from a moral point of view. 而影響的要素從道德觀點上來看也是變化無常的 Such as, whether you got a good education or not. 就像是,你是否獲得良好的教育 Whether you grew up in a family that support you 你是否成長在支持你的家庭中 and developed in you a work ethic 是否有助你發展職業道德 and gave you the opportunities. 是否給予你機會 So that suggests moving to a system of fair 這才會是一個公平的系統 equality of opportunity. 機會均等 And that's really the system that Mike was advocating earlier on. 而這就是Mike支持的系統 What we might call a merit-based system. 我們稱作以實力為主的系統 A meritocratic system. 實力導向體系 In a fair meritocracy the society sets up institutions 在一個公平的實力導向社會體系中,會設立各種機構 to bring everyone to the same starting point 幫助人們在比賽開始前 before the race begins. 站在相同的起跑點上 Equal educational opportunities. 均等的教育機會 Head start programs, for example. 舉例來說,啟蒙計畫 Support for schools in impoverished neighborhoods. 支援貧窮社區的學校 So that everyone, regardless of their family background, 如此一來,不論家庭背景 has a genuinely fair opportunity. 大家都有公平的機會 Everyone starts from the same starting line. 大家都從同一條起跑線開始 Well, what does Rawls think about the meritocratic system? 那麼,Rawls對於實力導向體系的想法是什麼? Even that, he says, doesn't go far enough 他說,即使如此還不夠 in remedying, or addressing, 不足以彌補 the moral arbitrariness 道德上的隨機性 of the natural lottery. 也就是自然的隨機性 Because if you bring everyone to the same starting point 因為如果你將大家帶到同一個起始點 and begin the race, who's going to win the race? 然後開始比賽,那麼誰將贏得勝利? Who would win? 誰會贏? To use the runners example. 以賽跑為例 The fastest runners would win. 最快的跑者會贏 But is it their doing 但這完全是他們自己的努力嗎? that they happen to be blessed with athletic powers to run fast? 還是他們有跑很快的能力? So Rawls says, "Even the principle of meritocracy, 因此Rawls說:"即使是實力導向的原則" where you bring everyone to the same starting point, "即使讓大家在相同起始點上" may eliminate the influence of social contingencies and upbringing, "也許可以消除社會階層和成長過程的不公平" ...but it still permits the distribution of wealth and income to be determined "但這依然是決定財富和收入是如何分配的 by the natural distribution of abilities and talents." 藉由與生俱來的天賦及能力所決定" And so he thinks that the principle of eliminating 即便如此,他認為道德的自由心證原則影響 morally arbitrary influences in the distribution of income and wealth 收入及財富分配 requires going beyond 需要再往更深的層面思考 what Mike favors, the meritocratic system. Mike所支持的,實力導向體系 Now, how do you go beyond? 要如何更進一步? Do you bring everyone to the same starting point 即使你把所有人帶到相同起始點 and you're still bothered by the fact that 你依然會被一些事實困擾著 some are fast runners and some are not fast runners, 像是有些人跑比較快,另一些人跑比較慢 what can you do? 那麼你可以做什麼? Well, some critics of a more egalitarian conception 某些更偏向平等主義的批評家說 say the only thing you can do is handicap the fast runners. 你唯一能做的事就是限制那些跑得快的人 Make them wear lead shoes. 讓他們穿鉛製鞋 But who wants to do that? 但是誰想這麼做? That would defeat the whole point of running the race. 這就違反了賽跑的意義 But Rawls says, you don't have to have 但Rawls說,你不需要這樣的平等 a kind of leveling equality, if you want to go 一種階級式的平等,如果你想要的是 beyond a meritocratic conception. 在一個所謂菁英概念下的平等 You permit, you even encourage, 你容許,甚至鼓勵 those who may be gifted, to exercise their talents. 那些人運用像是禮物般的天份 But what you do, is you change the terms 但事實上你所做的是,在改變整個體系 on which people are entitled to the fruits of 在那些冠上運用天賦的 the exercise of those talents. 甜美果實 And that really is what the difference principle is. 這就是所謂的差異原則 You establish a principle that says, 你嘗試建立一個原則說明 people may benefit from their good fortune, 人們可以從財富受益 from their luck in the genetic lottery, 從像樂透般的天賦得到好運氣 but only on terms that work to the advantage of the least well off. 但這只說明了這是怎麼對有這些優勢的人有幫助 And so, for example, 還有,另一個例子是 Michael Jordan can make 31 million dollars but, 麥可喬登可以賺三千一百萬美元但 only under a system that taxes away a chunk of that 只有在免稅的狀況下 to help those who lack the basketball skills that he's blessed with. 去幫助那些缺乏籃球技巧的孩子 Likewise, Bill Gates. 同理可證,比爾蓋茲 He can make his billions. 他可以賺百萬美元 But he can't think that he somehow morally deserves 但某種道德程度上他不能想說 those billions. 這些錢是他應得的 "Those who have been favored by nature, 那些天生就有的恩惠 may gain from their good fortune but only on terms that improve 也許是從 the situation of those who have lost out." That's the difference principle. And it's an argument from moral arbitrarianists. Rawls claims, that if you're bothered by basing distributive shares on factors arbitrary from a moral point of view, you don't just reject a feudal aristocracy for a free market. You don't even rest content with a meritocratic system that brings everyone to the same starting point. You set up a system, where everyone, including those at the bottom, benefit from the exercise of the talents held by those who happen to be lucky. What do you think? Is that persuasive? Who finds that argument unpersuasive? The argument for moral arbitrarianists. Yes. I think that in the egalitarian proposition the more talented people, I think it's very optimistic to think that they would still work really hard, even if they knew that part of what they made would be given away. So I think that the only way for the more talented people to exercise their talents to the best of their ability is in the meritocracy. And in a meritocracy, what's your name? Kate. Kate, does it bother you, and Mike, does it bother you, that in a meritocratic system, that even with fair equality of opportunity, people get ahead, people get rewards that they don't deserve simply because they happen to be naturally gifted. What about that? I think that it is arbitrary. Obviously it's arbitrary. But I think that correcting for it would be detrimental. Because it would reduce incentives, is that why? It would reduce incentives, yeah. Mike, what do you say? We're all sitting in this room and we have undeserved, we have undeserved glory of some sort. So you should not be satisfied with the process of your life. Because you have not created any of this. And I think, from a standpoint of, not just this room, us being upset, but from a societal standpoint we should have some kind of a gut reaction to that feeling. The guy who runs the race, he doesn't... He actually harms us as opposed to maybe makes me run that last ten yards faster. And that makes the guy behind me run ten yards faster and the guy behind him ten yards faster. Alright, so Mike, let me ask you. You talked about effort before. Effort. Do you think when people work hard to get ahead, and succeed, that they deserve the rewards that go with effort? Isn't that the idea behind your defense? I mean, of course, bring Michael Jordan here, I'm sure you can get him, and have him come and defend himself about he makes 31 million dollars. And I think what you're going to realize is his life was a very, very tough one to get to the top. And that we are basically being the majority oppressing the minority in a different light. It's very easy to pick on him. Very easy. Alright, effort. You've got... I've got a few. I've got a few. But that's about it. Effort, you know what Rawls's answer to that is? Even the effort that some people expend, conscientious driving, the work ethic, even effort depends a lot on fortunate family circumstances. For which you, we, can claim no credit. Let's do the test. Let's do a test here. Never mind economic class, those differences are very significant. Put those aside. Psychologists say that birth order makes a lot of difference in work ethic, striving, effort. How many here, raise your hand, those of you here, who are first in birth order. I am too by the way. Mike, I noticed you raised your hand. If the case for the meritocratic conception is that effort should be rewarded, doesn't Rawls have a point that even effort striving, work ethic is largely shaped even by birth order? Is it your doing? Mike, is it your doing that you were first in birth order? Then why, Rawls says, of course not. So why should income and wealth and opportunities in life be based on factors arbitrary from a moral point of view? That's the challenge that he puts to market societies, but also to those of us at places like this. A question to think about for next time. A justice of the United States Supreme Court, what do they make? It's just under $200,000. But there's another judge who makes a lot more than Sandra Day O'Connor. Do you know who it is? - Judge Judy? Judge Judy. How did you know that? Judge Judy, you know how much she makes? $25 million. Now, is that just? Is it fair? We ended last time with that remarkable poll, do you remember? The poll about birth order. What percentage of people in this room raised their hands, was it, to say that they were the first born? 75, 80 percent? And what was the significance of that? If you're thinking about these theories of distributive justice. Remember, we were discussing three different theories of distributive justice. Three different ways of answering the question, "How should income and wealth and opportunities and the good things in life, be distributed?" And so far we've looked at the libertarian answer. That says, the just system of distribution is a system of free exchange, a free market economy. Against a background of formal equality. Which simply means, that jobs and careers are open to anyone. Rawls says that this represents an improvement over aristocratic and caste systems, because everyone can compete for every job. Careers open to talents. And beyond that, the just distribution is the one that results from free exchange. Voluntary transactions. No more, no less. Then Rawls argues, if all you have is formal equality, jobs open to everyone, the result is not going to be fair. It will be biased in favor of those who happen to be born to affluent families, who happen to have the benefit of good educational opportunities. And that accident of birth is not a just basis for distributing life chances. And so, many people who notice this unfairness, Rawls argues, are lead to embrace a system of fair equality of opportunity. That leads to the meritocratic system. Fair equality of opportunity. But Rawls says, even if you bring everyone to the same starting point in the race, what's going to happen? Who's going to win? The fastest runners. So once you're troubled by basing distributive shares on morally arbitrary contingencies, you should, if you reason it through, be carried all the way to what Rawls calls, "the democratic conception". A more egalitarian conception of distributive justice that he defines by the difference principle. Now, he doesn't say that the only way to remedy or to compensate for differences in natural talents and abilities is to have a kind of, leveling equality. A guaranteed equality of outcome. But he does say there's another way to deal with these contingencies. People may gain, may benefit from their good fortune, but only on terms that work to the advantage of the least well off. And so, we can test how this theory actually works by thinking about some paid differentials that arise in our society. What does the average school teacher make in the United States, do you suppose? Roughly. -$35,000. It's a little more, 40, $42,000. What about David Letterman? How much do you think David Letterman makes? More than a school teacher? $31 million. David Letterman. Is that fair? That David Letterman makes that much more than a school teacher? Well, Rawls's answer would be, it depends whether the basic structure of society is designed in such a way that Letterman's $31 million is subject to taxation so that some of those earnings are taken to work for the advantage of the least well off. One other example of a paid differential. A justice of the United States Supreme Court. What do they make? It's just under $200,000. Here's Sandra Day O'Connor, for example. There she is. But there's another judge who makes a lot more than Sandra Day O'Connor. Do you know who it is? - Judge Judy. Judge Judy. How did you know that? You watch? You're right. Judge Judy, you know how much she makes? There she is. $25 million. Now, is that just? Is it fair? Well, the answer is, it depends on whether this is against a background system in line with the difference principle. Where those who come out on top, in terms of income and wealth are taxed in a way that benefits the least well off members of society. Now, we're going to come back to these wage differentials, pay differentials, between a real judge and a TV judge. The one Marcus watches all the time. What I want to do now, is return to these theories and to examine the objections to Rawls's more egalitarian theory. The difference principle. There are at least three objections to Rawls's difference principle. One of them came up last time in the discussion and a number of you raised this worry. What about incentives? Isn't there the risk, if taxes reach 70, 80, 90 percent marginal rate that Michael Jordan won't play basketball? That David Letterman won't do late night comedy? Or that CEOs will go into some other line of work? Now, who among those who are defenders of Rawls who has an answer to this objection about the need for incentives? Yes. Go ahead, stand up. Rawls's idea is that there should only be so much difference that it helps the least well off the most. So if there's too much equality, then the least well off might not be able to watch late night TV, or might not have a job because their CEO doesn't want to work. So you need to find the correct balance where taxation still leaves enough incentive to least well off to benefit from the talents. - Good. And what's your name? - Tim. Tim. Alright, so Tim is saying, in effect, that Rawls is taking count of incentives. And could allow for pay differentials and for some adjustment in the tax rate to take account of incentives. But, Tim points out, the standpoint from which the question of incentives needs to be considered is not the effect on the total size of the economic pie. But instead from the standpoint of the effect of incentives, or disincentives, on the well-being of those on the bottom. Right? Good. Thank you. I think that is what Rawls would say. In fact, if you look in section 17, where he describes the difference principle, he allows for incentives. "The naturally advantaged are not gain merely because they are more gifted, but only to cover the costs of training and education and for using their endowments in ways that help less fortunate as well." So you can have incentives. You can adjust the tax rate. If taking too much from David Letterman or from Michael Jordan, or from Bill Gates, winds up actually hurting those at the bottom. That's the test. So incentives, that's not a decisive objections against Rawls's difference principle. But there are two weightier, more difficult objections. One of them comes from defenders of a meritocratic conception. The argument that says, what about effort? What about people working hard having a right to what they earn because they've deserved it. They've worked hard for it. That's the objection from effort and moral desert. Then there's another objection. That comes from libertarians. And this objection has to do with reasserting the idea of self-ownership. Doesn't the difference principle, by treating our natural talents and endowments as common assets, doesn't that violate the idea that we own ourselves? Now, let me deal first, with the objection that comes from the libertarian direction. Milton Friedman writes, in his book, "Free to Choose," "Life is not fair. And it's tempting to believe that government can rectify what nature has spawned." But his answer is, "The only way to try to rectify that is to have a leveling equality of outcome." Everyone finishing the race at the same point. And that would be a disaster. This is an easy argument to answer. And Rawls addresses it. In one of the most powerful passages, I think, of the theory of justice. It's in Section 17. "The natural distribution", and here he's talking about the natural distribution talents and endowments. "...is neither just nor unjust. "Nor is it unjust that persons are born into society at some particular position. These are simply natural facts. What is just and unjust is the way that institutions deal with these facts." That's his answer to libertarian laissez faire economists like Milton Friedman who say, "Life is unfair but get over it." Get over it and let's see if we can, at least, maximize the benefits that flow from it. But the more powerful libertarian objection to Rawls is not libertarian from the libertarian economists like Milton Friedman. It's from the argument about self-ownership. Developed as we saw, in Nozick. And from that point of view, yes, it might be a good thing, to create head start programs and public schools so that everyone can go to a decent school and start the race at the same starting line. That might be good. But if you tax people to create public schools, if you tax people against their will, you coerce them. It's a form of theft. If you take some of Letterman's $31 million, tax it away to support public schools, against his will, the state is really doing no better than stealing from him. It's coercion. And the reason is, we have to think of ourselves as owning our talents and endowments. Because otherwise we're back to just using people and coercing people. That's the libertarian reply. What's Rawls's answer to that objection? He doesn't address the idea of self-ownership directly. But the effect, the moral weight of his argument for the difference principle is, maybe we don't own ourselves in that thoroughgoing sense after all. Now, he says, this doesn't mean that the state is an owner in me, in the sense that it can simply commandeer my life. Because remember, the first principle we would agree to behind the veil of ignorance, is the principle of equal basic liberties. Freedom of speech, religious liberty, freedom of conscience and the like. So the only respect in which the idea of self-ownership must give way, comes when we're thinking about whether I own myself in the sense that I have a privileged claim on the benefits that come from the exercise of my talents in a market economy. And Rawls says, on reflection, we don't. We can defend rights. We can respect the individual. We can uphold human dignity. Without embracing the idea of self-possession. That, in effect, is his reply to the libertarian. I want to turn now, to his reply to the defender of a meritocratic conception. Who invokes effort as the basis of moral desert. People who work hard to develop their talents deserve the benefits that come from the exercise of their talents. Well, we've already seen the beginning of Rawls's answer to that question. And it goes back to that poll we took about birth order. His first answer is even the work ethic, even the willingness to strive conscientiously, depends on all sorts of family circumstances and social and cultural contingencies for which we can claim no credit. You can't claim credit for the fact that you, most of you, most of us, happen to be first in birth order. And that for some complex psychological and social reasons that seems to be associated with striving, with achieving, with effort. That's one answer. There's a second answer. Those of you who invoke effort, you don't really believe that moral desert attaches to effort. Take two construction workers. One is strong and can raise four walls in an hour without even breaking a sweat. And another construction worker is small and scrawny. And has to spend three days to do the same amount of work. No defender of meritocracy is going to look at the effort of that weak an scrawny construction worker and say "Therefore he deserves to make more". So it isn't really effort. This is the second reply to the meritocratic claim. It isn't really effort that the defender of meritocracy believes is the moral basis of distributive shares. It's contribution. How much do you contribute? But contribution takes us right back to our natural talents and abilities. Not just effort. And it's not our doing, how we came into the possession of those talents in the first place. Alright, suppose you accepted these arguments, that effort isn't everything, that contribution matters, from the standpoint of the meritocratic conception. That effort, even, isn't our own doing. Does that mean, the objection continues, does that mean that according to Rawls, moral desert has nothing to do with distributive justice? Well, yes. Distributive justice is not about moral desert. Now, here, Rawls introduces an important and a tricky distinction. It's between moral desert, on the one hand, and entitlements to legitimate expectations, on the other. What is the difference between moral deserts and entitlements? Consider two different games. A game of chance and a game of skill. Take a game of pure chance. Say, I play the Massachusetts state lottery. And my number comes up. I'm entitled to my winnings. But even though I'm entitled to my winnings, there's no sense in which, because it's just a game of luck, no sense in which, I morally deserve to win in the first place. That's an entitlement. Now contrast the lottery with a different kind of game. A game of skill. Now, imagine the Boston Red Sox winning the World Series. When they win, they're entitled to the trophy. But it can be always asked of a game of skill did they deserve to win? It's always possible, in principle, to distinguish what someone's entitled to, under the rules, and whether they deserve to win in the first place. That's an antecedent standard. Moral desert. Now, Rawls says distributive justice is not a matter of moral desert though it is a matter of entitlements to legitimate expectations. Here's where he explains it. "A just scheme answers to what men are entitles to. It satisfies their legitimate expectations as founded upon social institutions. But what they are entitled to is not proportional to nor dependent upon their intrinsic worth." "The principles of justice that regulate the basic structure do not mention moral desert and there is no tendency for distributive shares to correspond to it." Why does Rawls make this distinction? What, morally, is at stake? One thing morally at stake is the whole question of effort that we've already discussed. But there's a second contingency, a second source of moral arbitrariness that goes beyond the question of whether it's to my credit that I have the talents that enable me to get ahead. And that has to do with the contingency that I live in an society that happens to prize my talents. The fact that David Letterman lives in a society that puts a great premium, puts a great value, on a certain type of smirky joke, that's not his doing. He's lucky that he happens to live in such a society. But this is a second contingency. This isn't something that we can claim credit for. Even if I had sole, unproblematic, claim to my talents and to my effort. It would still be the case, that the benefits I get from exercising those talents, depend on factors that are arbitrary from a moral point of view. What my talents will reap in a market economy. What does that depend on? What other people happen to want or like in this society. It depends on the law of supply and demand. That's not my doing. It's certainly not the basis for moral desert. What counts as contributing depends on the qualities that this or that society happens to prize. Most of us are fortunate to possess, in large measure, for whatever reason, the qualities that our society happens to prize. The qualities that enable us to provide what society wants. In a capitalist society it helps to have entrepreneurial drive. In bureaucratic society it helps to get on easily and smoothly with superiors. In a mass democratic society it helps to look good on television and to speak in short, superficial sound bites. In a litigious society, it helps to go to law school and have the talents to do well on LSATs. But none of this is our doing. Suppose that we, with our talents, inhabited not our society, technologically advanced, highly litigious, but a hunting society, or a warrior society. What would become of our talents then? They wouldn't get us very far. No doubt some of us would develop others. But would we be less worthy? Would we be less virtuous? Would we be less meritorious if we lived in that kind of society rather than in ours. Rawls's answer is, no. We might make less money and properly so. But while we would be entitled to less, we would be no less worthy. No less deserving than we are now. And here's the point. The same could be said of those in our society who happen to hold less prestigious positions, who happen to have fewer of the talents that our society happens to reward. So here's the moral import of the distinction between moral desert and entitlements to legitimate expectations. We are entitled to the benefits that the rules of the game promise for the exercise of our talents. But it's a mistake and a conceit to suppose that we deserve, in the first place, a society that values the qualities we happen to have in abundance. Now we've been talking here about income and wealth, what about opportunities and honors? What about the distribution of access of seats in elite colleges and universities? It's true, all of you most of you first born, worked hard, strived, developed your talents, to get here. But Rawls asks, in effect, what is the moral status of your claim to the benefits that attach to the opportunities that you have? Are seats in colleges and universities a matter, a kind of reward, an honor for those who deserve them, because they've worked so hard? Or, are those seats, those opportunities and honors entitlements to legitimate expectations that depend for their justification on those of us who enjoy them doing so in a way that works to the benefit of those at the bottom of society? That's the question that Rawls's difference principle poses. It's a question that can be asked of the earnings of Michael Jordan and David Letterman and Judge Judy. But it's also a question that can be asked of opportunities to go to the top colleges and universities. And that's a debate that comes out when we turn to the question of affirmative action next time.
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