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  • And you're much better drawing than me.

    你畫得比我好得多。

  • I'm not good at drawing.

    我不擅長畫畫。

  • So my name is Esther Perel.

    我叫埃斯特-佩雷爾。

  • I'm a psychotherapist, an author and a speaker.

    我是一名心理治療師、作家和演講家。

  • And my field of work is relationships and sexuality.

    我的工作領域是人際關係和性。

  • My name is Baratunde Thurston.

    我叫巴拉通德-瑟斯頓。

  • I'm a comedian, writer and activist.

    我是一名喜劇演員、作家和活動家。

  • My field of work is making drunk, people laugh.

    我的工作領域是讓人喝醉,讓人發笑。

  • Here is this man, right?

    就是這個人,對嗎?

  • And this is an organ that is usually completely hidden.

    而這個器官通常是完全隱藏的。

  • I would love to have it become really beautifully colored and I would like him to lead with power and heart and from that place, I would like him to connect, you know, with other men and other women from the heart.

    我希望它變得非常漂亮,我希望他能用力量和心靈來上司,從那個地方,我希望他能與其他男人和其他女人從心靈上建立聯繫。

  • What I'm hearing, I interpret this, I see a a scale, right?

    我所聽到的,我所理解的,我看到的是一杆秤,對嗎?

  • And these are new page.

    這些都是新頁面。

  • Bye.

    再見。

  • And you know, if the history of men was, you know, this imbalance, that's a scale.

    你知道,如果男人的歷史就是這樣,你知道,這種不平衡,就是一種尺度。

  • We're just gonna call that a scale.

    我們就稱它為刻度。

  • Then the future is gonna have something that's a little more balanced.

    那麼未來就會有更平衡的東西。

  • Equality is not a 5050.

    平等不是 5050。

  • That's what people typically, you know, how much do you do and how much do I do?

    人們通常會問,你做多少,我做多少?

  • You know, I really think the key word really is complementarity.

    你知道,我真的認為關鍵詞是互補性。

  • OK?

    行嗎?

  • And that means we're not going to divide roles only by gender.

    這意味著我們不能只按性別來劃分角色。

  • We're gonna divide roles by competence by who at this particular moment is the most suited to.

    我們要按能力來劃分角色,看誰在此時此刻最適合。

  • The simple view says everything shared.

    簡單的觀點說明了共享的一切。

  • 5050 there's one pie and we split it down the middle.

    5050 有一個餡餅,我們從中間分。

  • There are many pies and some of them may look like 5050.

    有很多餡餅,其中一些看起來像 5050。

  • Some may look 2575 some maybe just be like the most narrow slice.

    有些看起來像 2575,有些可能只是最窄的一片。

  • There is no way that I could do this if you were not doing the other part and that becomes a much more equalizing thing than this notion of 5050.

    如果你不做另一部分,我是不可能做到這一點的,這比 5050 的概念要平等得多。

  • You know, sometimes we wanna say change comes one individual at a time, but change also needs to come through the system and that systemic change.

    你知道,有時我們想說改變是一個人一個人的事,但改變也需要通過系統和系統性的改變來實現。

  • For example, I think paternity leave for me would be a systemic change that highlights different values of what we think is important in the life of a man.

    例如,我認為對我來說,陪產假將是一個系統性的變革,它凸顯了我們認為男性生活中重要的不同價值觀。

  • And so there's only so far we can go by focusing on individuals.

    是以,我們只能把注意力集中在個人身上。

  • We also have to look at the foundation they're standing on the system that supports them or that undermines them correct.

    我們還必須研究他們所處的基礎,是支持他們的系統,還是破壞他們的系統。

  • And in this case, actual real child care and a real health care system, America uh would free us all to be, have a more equitable society.

    在這種情況下,真正的兒童保育和真正的醫療保健系統,美國呃將解放我們所有人,使我們成為一個更加公平的社會。

  • I don't think this is gonna be done in 20 years.

    我不認為 20 年內能完成這項工作。

  • I think it's a process we're gonna make progress during that time, but I would not be so uh optimistic.

    我認為這是一個過程,我們會在此期間取得進展,但我不會那麼樂觀。

  • But how different are you from your grandparents' generation?

    但是,你們和祖父母那一代人有什麼不同?

  • Oh, yeah, so much has changed and there is still so much to Yeah, it's been nice drawing with you.

    是啊,變化太大了,還有很多事情要做 是啊,很高興和你一起畫畫。

  • My pleasure.

    我的榮幸

And you're much better drawing than me.

你畫得比我好得多。

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與Esther Perel和Baratunde Thurston一起繪製男性氣質的未來。 (Drawing the Future of Masculinity With Esther Perel and Baratunde Thurston)

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