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  • JUDY WOODRUFF: The very first presidential primary debates for the 2020 cycle are now

  • over, but last night's round two brought a new twist to the Democratic contest, a twist

  • whose repercussions stretched into today.

  • Lisa Desjardins starts there.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: Today, another important stage for former Vice President Joe Biden.

  • JOSEPH BIDEN (D), Presidential Candidate: I would like to say something about the debate

  • we had last night.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: In Chicago, talking to Jesse Jackson's Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, he stressed

  • his history working for civil rights and clarified he is not for states' rights on the issue.

  • JOSEPH BIDEN: These rights are not up to the states to decide. They are the federal government's

  • duty to decide.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: This after a week of criticism, starting with Biden's words about working

  • in the past with people he disagreed with, and he named two senators known as ardent

  • segregationists.

  • On last night's debate stage, California Senator Kamala Harris raised that directly to Biden.

  • SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D-CA), Presidential Candidate: I do not believe you are a racist and I agree

  • with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground.

  • But, I also believe -- and it's personal. And I -- I was actually very -- it was hurtful.

  • JOSEPH BIDEN: That's a mischaracterization of my position across the board. I did not

  • praise racists.

  • That is not true.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: But Harris' most forceful criticism of the former vice president came

  • after she told a personal story about being bused to an integrated public school as a

  • child.

  • SEN. KAMALA HARRIS: Do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose busing in America

  • then?

  • JOSEPH BIDEN: No.

  • SEN. KAMALA HARRIS: Do you agree?

  • (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

  • JOSEPH BIDEN: I did not oppose busing in America. What I opposed is busing ordered by the Department

  • of Education. That's what I opposed. I did not oppose...

  • KAMALA HARRIS: Well, there was a failure of -- of states to -- to integrate...

  • JOSEPH BIDEN: No, but...

  • KAMALA HARRIS: ... public schools in America.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: Today, Biden tried to clarify, but stopped short of saying the federal government

  • should have enforced all busing.

  • JOSEPH BIDEN: I never, never, ever opposed voluntary busing. And it's a program that

  • Senator Harris participated in.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: Harris' name is ringing. Hers was the performance that most resonated

  • last night at a Democratic debate watch party in Miami.

  • FRANCES KNAPP, Miami: I think she was forceful. She was to the point. She was empathetic.

  • She was really sharp tonight.

  • ALLIE GEIGER, Miami: I think Kamala Harris has a really good chance. I think women are

  • tired of being ignored. I think minorities are tired of being ignored.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: But Biden too had fans, who said he can win with swing voters.

  • LOUIS BONDI, Miami: He is middle of the road and he explains things to them. And he's a

  • centrist.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: The debate itself was more raucous than the previous night, with candidates

  • early on speaking over each other in attempts to get time. And there was more heat and challenge.

  • California Congressman Eric Swalwell said Biden had his time in leadership, and should

  • step aside now.

  • REP. ERIC SWALWELL (D-CA), Presidential Candidate: Joe Biden was right when he said it was time

  • to pass the torch to a new generation of Americans 32 years ago. He's still right today.

  • (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

  • JOSEPH BIDEN: I'm still holding on to that torch.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders aimed to contrast himself with the more moderate

  • Biden, invoking his 2016 battle cry.

  • SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT), Presidential Candidate: We need a political revolution. People have

  • got to stand up and take on the special interests. We can transform this country.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg tackled questions about how

  • he is handling the shooting of a black man killed by a white officer there and why his

  • city's police force has few officers of color.

  • PETE BUTTIGIEG (D), Presidential Candidate: We're obviously not there yet. And I accept

  • responsibility for that, because I'm in charge.

  • (CROSSTALK)

  • REP. ERIC SWALWELL: You should fire the chief.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: For the second night in a row, candidates showed a divide on health

  • care. The more moderate candidates, like former Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper and Colorado

  • Senator Michael Bennet, pushed back on Sanders' sweeping Medicare for all plan, instead arguing

  • for an optional government-run insurance plan instead.

  • SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-CO), Presidential Candidate: And that every family and every person in

  • America can make a choice for their family about whether they want a public option.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: With a crowded stage and front-runners getting the most early questions,

  • other candidates, like Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York in particular, fought to insert

  • themselves into the debate.

  • QUESTION: We are going to talk about health care at length, Senator, but at -- for the

  • moment, my colleague...

  • (CROSSTALK)

  • SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D-NY), Presidential Candidate: I wrote the part in Senator Sanders'

  • bill -- I wrote the part in Senator Sanders' bill that is the transition, which merges

  • what the two senators said.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: Political outsiders author Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew

  • Yang spoke the least. Yang said today his microphone was turned off most of the night,

  • a charge NBC flatly denied. Both raised ideas not brought up otherwise, including this from

  • Williamson on race:

  • MARIANNE WILLIAMSON (D), Presidential Candidate: And the Democratic Party should be on the

  • side of reparations for slavery for this very reason.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: All 10 candidates agreed on one significant issue, that their health

  • care plans would covered undocumented immigrants.

  • The Democratic candidates will share the debate stage again next month.

JUDY WOODRUFF: The very first presidential primary debates for the 2020 cycle are now

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2020年第二次民主黨辯論中,哪些候選人發生了衝突? (Which candidates clashed during the 2nd 2020 Democratic debate)

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    王惟惟 發佈於 2021 年 01 月 14 日
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