字幕列表 影片播放 列印英文字幕 Uhm, for those of you who may not know the Academy forum is a program that is organized and funded by PAMKA. Uh, it is to bring to campus outstanding speakers who will engage our students and our faculty and our families and it is also our pleasure to be able to open it up to the larger community. So we welcome you all. We're really delighted that you've braved the elements to join us tonight Before we get going, uh, with our program tonight there are just a couple people that i want to thank for making it possible for us. Uh, first Amy South. Amy, where are you? Amy's around somewhere. Amy is our community vice president There she is, in the back she is uh, ultimately, responsible for, uh, the entire event tonight Next is Lucy [Botsick??]. Lucy is in the doorway up there. Lucy has executed every single detail for tonight. We have Trish Perlmutter Trish has sheparded this program from the very beginning And last but not least, Judy Polonofsky and Debbie Kozak who make absolutely everything happen for us here at MKA So thank you very much So now, without further ado it's my pleasure to introduce the headmaster of the Montclair Kimberly Academy, Tom Nammack Good evening, and welcome. I'm delighted to welcome you to the Monclair Kimberly Academy And I want to also thank again our parents' association. They have made this evening possible for us while the program is free of charge it's not clear expectations for how we will conduct ourselves as an audience I have a couple things I'd like to ask of you Please, there's to be no electronic recording audio or video please don't hold your phones up to take pictures mostly because it distracts the people behind you and we'd really like to focus on our very special guests this evening it's my privilege to introduce our guests i think they're well known to all of you but I do want to say a couple things about them Doctor Tyson has been a frequent guest on the Colbert report but, uh, or "Report" I guess is the proper pronunciation We're delighted that he's here and we are also delighted and, uh um... very grateful that mr stephen colbert has agreed to interview him for our benefit Stephen Colbert comedian, author and host of the Colbert Report is both one of the funniest and possibly the bravest comedians of our time I want you to consider his performance at the national press club dinner in 2007 as he, uh, as he stood just a few feet from the President of the United States known the rest of us as the most powerful man in the world Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson astrophysicist, Director of the Hayden Planetarium author of nine books, teacher, lecturer host of Nova's four-part series "Origins" and member of two presidential commissions on United States aerospace industry and the future of our country's space exploration Dr. Tyson has a gift for working successfully within the realms of research, education, and policy formation i owe you all an explanation about our theater tonight what you see on stage is the beginning of a set for a seventh-grade production of "Romeo and Juliet" this year's selection for what is as i said an annual performance and I think it's fitting that Dr tyson is going to warmup the stage for the two most famous star-crossed lovers in all of American literature it occurred to me that there are few things that stephen colbert and Neil Tyson have in common and I wanted to comment on them both of them share an over-arching purpose to make sense of the world They also share a common strategy They often look to the stars human or heavenly for evidence of how things work though Stephen Colbert is far tougher on the objects caught in his gaze Whereas Dr. Tyson is only known to have obliterated Pluto. they share methods in their respective fields, whether it is the search for evidence that makes sense of the world and the universe or the creative construction of questions and tests by which the truth and significance of who or what is before them are evaluated Perhaps then, they both have something in common with william shakespeare the desire to provide their audience with a lens to see the world from the previously unconsidered point of view and not just as others would have us see it So while the stars may be dazzling training and instinct appear to have taught each of them to look away from celestial bodies i'm really sorry i had to get that bad cliche in there somewhere and to consider the effects that those celestial bodies have on everything and everyone around them In addition to the challenge of questions that each of them make us confront, their work has given the world a little more of that very rare and gem-like substance known as the truth Or in Stephen Colbert's case: "truthiness" and we are very grateful. ladies and gentlemen Mr. Stephen Colbert and Doctor Neil deGrasse Tyson "Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo" Uh, I don't know Neil, thanks so much for coming Yeah ... thank you. Mr/Dr Neil deGrasse Tyson is he's been on my show six times and often when I come out to brief the audience before I do my show they ask me "who's your favorite guest of all time?" and I say, not just for volume, but it's Neil DeGrasse Tyson but because not only uh... do I love what neil knows but uh, I love that he loves what he doesn't know always interested in the next thing to learn (Oh yeah) and always rolled to whatever idiocy my character wants to throw on him I think the only time i ever surprised you as you told me a a little while ago uh was i asked you should uh... should scientists go to Argentina or hike the Appalachian trail If they want people to talk about them it's the universe talking there the universe [??] Yeah that ... I missed that one Yeah you missed that news story To go on his show it's like the hardest interview ever I have to, like, I'm laden with current events just to mix with my science cause I don't know where he's gonna come at me and I gotta be, like, ready with seven tennis rackets to hit it back And on set with that one news story remember with that guy, was it south carolina guy who remembers He goes to Argentina and becomes well-known for having done so and you ask me straight-out should scientists visit Argentina more often to become better known and it just went.. I just you aced me on that one (You're welcome) Now, Neil, we've got a lot of talk about tonight (yeah) a lot of subjects science is a big thing but i want to start off with this is not a bribe (that's alright) I want to start off with .. with these chairs I feel myself sliding No, no This stage is not level oh welcome to the barn raising Didn't realize we were speaking before the Omish tonight That's gonna make it tought to talk about science and technology All right, Neil i want to start uh... i want to start, in a broad way are you Tweeting now, or are you actually trying to interview me? no, i'm just looking at ... i'm just looking at photos of myself get a little work done I need a little freshen up let me ask you a very basic question: science from "scientia", Latin, meaning knowledge I didn't take Latin but I'll take your word for it is it better to know or not to know i think well my blunt answer is it's better to know (alright) but i think that is debatable though well I said "my" answer. Someone else might have a different answer for instance, Oedipus might have a different answer Yeah, I mean I think is .. is knowledge always a good thing? I have to say yes why? because it empowers you to react and possibly even to do something about it if something about it needs to be done ok, but who we are is what we know, right? Part of who we are is what we know and our identity is often based on how we see the world yes, and uh... personality for sure and if we learn something that does not jive with how we think about the world won't we have to reexamine who we are? Yeah, it could mess you up Once again I'll go back to Oedipus He plucked his eyes out rather than know any more Yeah, well, you know people back then you know, they did stuff like that Yeah, people back then not people today so i think there are people who would not know who would rather ... remember the old days I don't know if it still happens where a doctor would find out you had cancer, they wouldn't tell you They wouldn't tell you (give it to me straight doc) Yeah and why would even have to say give it to me straight unless there was a day when they didn't give it to you straight? If I have five years left I wanna know I have five years left Cause I wanna, like do something different in those five years if (Neil?) yeah? I have some terrible news so there are some people who don't there are some people who don't value science and if they don't value science are they valuing ignorance? Yes, and.. but I will not pass judgment on them what I will say is if they have are at maximal comfort in their ignorance.. fine except that they will not be the participants on the frontier of of cosmic discovery they will be disenfranchised Hello .. hello I'm sorry I've got a phone call... hello? I'm sorry I have to take .. I have to take this.. Hello? My mic.. my mic isn't working? Hello? that's better Now who's in control? So they won't be in control of the next.. they won't be participants in the next cosmic discovery No they won't they won't not only will they not be on that frontier making any discoveries they're not in a position to enhance their life for having access to those discoveries themselves Can knowledge ever be a bad thing? i don't think so what about actions that knowledge takes us to? You think that Oppenheimer when the bomb went off and he said "I am become death, destroyer of worlds" do you think he perhaps questioned for a moment whether the knowledge they achieved that led to the creation of the bomb perhaps should have been left undiscovered? Do you know what he said in response to those kinds of questions? Yes? he said because people said "Have you ursurped the power of God?" and he said If God didn't want this power to be there he shouldn't have put it in the atom in the first place kind of an interesting point, I think What he was saying that the world is accessible to us so would you say "Don't smelt the ore and make iron and make a sword out of it because you could cut yourself"?