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  • Hello everyone, I want to talk to you about a video the New York Times released called inside China's predatory healthcare system

  • In it the New York Times makes several claims about the state of health care in China

  • The video was edited to elicit maximum fear worry and anxiety

  • There's also an accompanying article which has much more information. My name is Nathan Ridge

  • I'm an American living in China as such

  • I have a unique perspective on stories like these because even though my life is in China now

  • I still remember what it's like to live in America and not know much about the real China other than what the media outlets say

  • I've been to over a dozen hospitals in China

  • I've had dental work LASIK and even surgeries in both countries

  • I have been insured and uninsured I've waited in lines

  • Pay fees talk to doctors and nurses and have spent many nights by hospital beds here

  • I've seen real problems in China's health care system and in America's but this video was actually a shock to me when

  • I saw inside China's predatory health care system for the first time a wave of emotions washed over me

  • First and foremost I was depressed and sad for the woman dying from cancer

  • But even the first time I saw the video I could tell that something wasn't quite right

  • Before I go any further

  • I want to let you know that I was an only child of a single parent my mother and she passed away from cancer in

  • 2010 so this issue is very important to me

  • Cancer is a heartbreaking life shattering disease that needs a cure

  • But to find a cure we need to be honest about the situation from all angles

  • So let's talk about the lady who died from cancer in this film in

  • 2011 a 68 year old former school teacher was diagnosed with serious lung cancer at the time

  • Her son was making what the New York Times called decent money at a pharmaceutical company

  • Over the next three years she got surgery took traditional Chinese medicines and underwent biotherapy

  • The doctors recommended chemotherapy, but she turned it down because she felt she was too old

  • They also recommended radiation therapy, which she also turned down

  • So her doctor prescribed her IRISA a lung cancer drug

  • She bought and took a rest for nine months after which the drug was no longer effective

  • around

  • 2015 after all these treatments hadn't quashed the cancer her son quit his decent-paying job and moved in with her and her husband to help

  • In any way he could for two years her son made her traditional Chinese medicines and various cancer drugs from recipes

  • He found on the internet

  • He was determined to help his mother live as long as she could my mother died in America

  • Only two weeks after her cancer diagnosis, so I know what it's like to not have enough time in

  • 2017 the New York Times interviewed the family and began working on their story

  • surgery traditional Chinese medicine biotherapy

  • ERISA and the various drugs her son made weren't able to beat the cancer though

  • She did live for six long years after being diagnosed. Sadly. She passed away at 75 years old

  • That's her story one of struggle and perseverance

  • She beat the odds and lived longer than most. But ultimately it was just her time to leave us

  • But now, let's take a look at how the New York Times chose to honor her memory in inside China's predatory health care system

  • First it's an introduction of her son. Take a look

  • - June earns $300 a month

  • we see her son now and all they tell us about him so far is he's making drugs and he only makes

  • $300 a month which is minimum wage where he lives

  • So he quit his decent paying job to take a minimum wage bang job and spend time with his mother that's his choice

  • But notice that they left that part out the tone is already set

  • Let's find out what he's doing. The medicine needed to treat his sick mother cost 2,000. He's making W

  • Z400 - it hasn't been approved by Chinese or American regulators

  • The drug isn't approved in America or China

  • So either he can source at himself or he can't get it exactly like in America can a man making minimum wage in America?

  • Afford to treat stage 3 lung cancer. I mean just look at these news articles about the medical in America

  • This is the number one reason Americans filed for bankruptcy is for medical bills

  • Many cancer patients must face bankruptcy or die or how about this one?

  • 42 percent of new cancer patients lose their entire life savings

  • By the way in this article, it says the average amount lost is 92 thousand dollars

  • These people have normal jobs and are facing bankruptcy and death

  • How do you think that would work out for someone on minimum wage in America?

  • So as hard as it is to confront people not being able to afford cancer drugs. It's not a China specific issue

  • Children

  • Remember how I said when I first watched this video I could just tell something was wrong

  • This is a clip of him saying until now we have used these seven drugs

  • But look at how the New York Times has translated it

  • We have made these seven drugs a slight but important difference

  • He's not saying that he made all those drugs. He's saying that she has taken those drugs

  • We know for example that

  • They didn't make the Iressa that she took so why are they altering what he said to suggest that he made all of them?

  • Well to make you think that they never bought me

  • So now with only this information about her son the video moves on to the narration based section the New York Times makes several

  • Large claims and then they rely on editing intense music sound effects misinformation and lies to make their case

  • But don't take my word for it. Let's investigate this together. It's a symptom of a health care system in crisis

  • so far

  • the only thing we've seen is a man trying desperately to save his mother during the last months of her life after a long and

  • horrible battle with cancer

  • She's received many treatments and now is a last-ditch effort. He's trying anything he can he's making medicine that isn't approved in China or America

  • So if he were in America, what would be different to me? That sounds like a cancer crisis in the world?

  • Not a Chinese crisis the introduction of capitalism

  • and the retreive of the state meant that healthcare was no longer free

  • hospitals became profit driven weirdly

  • They are suggesting that hospitals in China are all profit driven and somehow that's the reason for this yet to be revealed crisis

  • In this video only one hospital is mentioned and that hospital like virtually all major hospitals in China is public

  • The government sets the prices and the aim of the medical staff in those hospitals is the same as anywhere else

  • to treat patients

  • Private hospitals of China aren't the same as they are in America

  • in fact, all the private hospitals combined make less than 10% the revenue that public hospitals do

  • The vast majority of private hospitals in China have less than a hundred beds and only a 40% occupancy rate

  • While the largest public hospitals can treat well over

  • 20,000 people in one single day

  • Are you getting the picture people in trying to go to public hospitals because here in a socialist country?

  • They are the best. So how is this caused by for-profit hospitals again? And

  • China's already committed to moving hospitals to be completely nonprofit by next year

  • What is America doing about the profit as medical companies are driven by and also?

  • does it seem a little weird to anybody else to hear an American newspaper complaining about capitalism in another country a

  • culture of mistrust and inequality now plague the system by this time in the video

  • I was starting to realize that people who made it didn't really understand China very well

  • Chinese people trust hospitals and their doctors much more than Americans do

  • This is something you would be able to observe within a month of living here. It's culturally different than America

  • Right now we have a friend who's coming back from New Zealand to China to do some very minor procedures. Why?

  • Because she trusts the doctors here

  • You should also notice that in this video

  • Not one person says anything about not trusting hospitals or doctors except for the New York Times

  • They say there's a culture of mistrust and they show you absolutely no evidence of it at all about 100

  • gathering online in downtown Shanghai is the entrance to the Shanghai Cancer Center unlike an America in

  • China prices for the best hospitals are similar to ordinary hospitals

  • And when Chinese people get sick, they want to go to the best hospitals available. This is why there are lines at the best hospitals

  • America's solution to this is charge so much more money at these hospitals that only the rich can afford them. Why would that be better?

  • so if you've got one of the top cancer hospitals in the country priced based on cost rather than on profits and

  • You've got a culture where people want to see the best doctors possible. You're gonna have a very busy Hospital

  • That's a good thing people are getting treatment at one of the top cancer hospitals. They can afford it. They are there

  • Imagine how much better off America would be if enough people can afford the best cancer hospitals for their to be lions

  • I mean really think about that

  • If you thought the earlier convenient mistranslation was an accident you're going to be disappointed

  • Nearly everything a Chinese person says in this video is mistranslated and every one of those

  • Mistranslations just happens to support the New York Times narrative

  • I wonder what are the statistical odds that every single translation just happens to support their case

  • Accidentally, so this guy's only said two things and they altered both of them first

  • He said they've spent forty three thousand dollars on his wife's cancer treatment

  • He makes no indication whatsoever

  • That any of this money was spent at this particular Hospital or over any amount of time

  • Yet when we see the New York Times translation

  • It is clearly saying that he has spent the money here

  • The idea obviously is to make it seem like this is a very expensive hospital

  • It isn't

  • Let's compare what these people are paying for a top cancer hospital in China to the prices at the top cancer hospital in America

  • the people in this big scary line are paying about

  • five or seven dollars for a consultation with a specialist or an expert if they're uninsured if they have insurance like

  • 95% of Chinese people do then they're paying nothing. I

  • Literally just searched for top cancer hospital in America

  • Here's the first one. It's called the MD Anderson

  • Cancer Center how much do you think would cost for the same consultation with one doctor once did you guess?

  • $40,000 because if you did you're right it costs

  • $40,000 to talk to one doctor one time if you have no insurance, if you do have insurance it costs you only

  • $4,000

  • So, let's see what else this guy says

  • It's the second sentences mistranslation that takes the cake didn't know there was a second sentence

  • That's because they showed him saying it and didn't bother to translate it for you

  • They didn't think his second sentence needed to be understood. What was that sentence? Let's take a listen

  • He said my wife got a cold

  • he seems to be indicating that he's standing in line to get a number for his wife to come to the hospital because she has

  • a common cold now

  • She does have cancer but Chinese people go to the hospital for a cold stubbed toes and anything else you could think of

  • The real question here is why wouldn't the New York Times want you to understand him say he was bringing his wife to the hospital

  • Because she had a cold

  • Your chance of seeing a doctor here

  • It's directly related to how big your wallet is the narration continues with this ridiculously over-the-top nonsense

  • they are implying quite directly that these people are waiting outside because they don't have any money and if only they had more money they

  • Could be seen without the wait

  • Take a moment to picture yourself going to a top Cancer Hospital in America

  • Outside you find a line of people waiting to go in do you think yourself my god?

  • If only these people had money they wouldn't be in mine

  • Of course not so why does it seem so easy to think that here? Well, I'll tell you what, it's the nature of misinformation

  • Because the New York Times has spent so much of this video harping on about lions outside a top cancer Hospital

  • We compiled a list of ways. These people can see a doctor at that hospital. Are you ready for this?

  • You can wait in line. If you want to you can use the hospital's official WeChat account to book an appointment at no additional cost

  • If you don't know what we chat is I wrote an article about it for medium. But basically it's a chat application and more

  • or you can use this website and app to book an appointment at no additional cost or

  • You can use this website and app to the book an appointment again at no additional cost

  • In fact, they have additional features on top of just booking an appointment

  • Sometimes you can get free consultations

  • They have videoconference options where you can sit with your doctor in your province and do a three-way conference call with one of the top

  • specialists which costs

  • $120 they have a 24 hour telephone service for one-to-one consultations with one of the specialists

  • Which is $15.00 for 10 minutes

  • Or you can even pay $30 to have a two day

  • Unlimited chat conversations with other specialists including sending them images and having them consult with you

  • We found at least five other websites and apps that allow you to book appointments with this hospital at no additional cost

  • If you have an appointment, by the way

  • You don't have to wait in this big scary line that they keep showing us again and again and again you can just walk in

  • When they open and give them your number

  • if you want an appointment with one of the top experts you can just call the

  • Hospital and set up an appointment again at no additional cost hell

  • You can even call China Unicom the ISP similar to Time Warner Cable and set up an appointment at this hospital with them

  • You might be thinking

  • well

  • These people are old maybe they don't have internet access or no all the numbers all these places or whatever

  • If they're not able to see a doctor that day

  • All they have to do is walk over to an appointment kiosk

  • Inside and get a number for the next day then they don't have to wait in this line anymore

  • In fact, they don't even need to wait in the line

  • The first time all they have to do is walk into the hospital at any time

  • Go to an appointment kiosk and get a number for the next day

  • Then they don't need to wait in this big scary crisis line at all in in rural areas

  • So this lady has proved the point I made before

  • People seek out the best

  • Hospital they can when they have serious illnesses

  • Wouldn't you this video is making it seem like these people were forced to walk like refugees across

  • Thousands of kilometers because there aren't enough hospitals. That's just not the case

  • In fact, there are more hospitals per person in China than there are in America in

  • America there's one hospital for every

  • 52,000 people pretty good, right well in China, there's one hospital for every

  • 44,000 people that's almost a 20 percent difference

  • So why are they suggesting that there aren't enough hospitals do they think that the hospitals are too small? Is that it wrong again?

  • the two largest hospitals in America have about 2,500 beds in

  • China the two largest hospitals both have over 10,000 beds

  • Let me put it to you another way. The largest hospital in America wouldn't even be on the top

  • 100 largest hospitals in China. Are you getting the picture now?

  • So what are they even talking about?

  • They're making it seem like these people have no options for hospitals when in fact

  • They have more options than Americans. Do this video is getting really frustrating

  • Unfortunately, the lies and misleading information has only just begun you get cancer and live in an area without an oncologist you could be in

  • trouble in what country are you not in trouble if you get cancer in an area without an oncologist you

  • Go to a hospital that has one just like any other country in the world

  • This video is a bunch of people from different provinces going to this province

  • Which isn't where their hookahs are to see doctors because they chose to go to the best Hospital. Is anyone else seeing this?

  • For this next part I want to take the time to explain to you how seeing a doctor works in China

  • Because the New York Times didn't want you to know and it's actually relevant in

  • China people generally seek out one of two types of doctors

  • specialists and experts

  • specialists has the same meaning as it does in the West a doctor who specializes in a certain area and

  • Experts are those specialists who have outstanding credentials beyond their peers

  • Without insurance to see a specialist at this hospital costs $5 and to see an expert it costs $7

  • If you have an emergency, or you have special needs you can pay

  • $43 to see an expert in another line, which is sometimes shorter

  • but no matter who you want to see you never have to wait outside if you make an appointment and if you don't make an

  • Appointment rich or not. You have to wait in line

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  • Woman la pasión Mira Mesa. So what does your confidence come back to it?

  • So now we're listening to this lady complain about how the wealthy people get to cut in line

  • What they're intentionally not telling you in this translation is what she's actually referring to

  • She's talking about the special needs line. Which again costs

  • $43 without insurance to see an expert rather than the $7.00 it normally takes

  • Even if she was wealthy enough to afford an additional thirty four dollars

  • She would still wait in line because she didn't make an appointment just a smaller line

  • does it bother anyone else that the New York Times didn't even try to

  • Understand what these people were talking about before they just wrote the scariest sounding

  • interpretation possible and then moved on but of course this lady is just

  • Complaining about waiting in line because she doesn't want to pay for the additional service of seeing a top expert

  • Rather than just specialist. Also keep in mind that this entire time. None of these people have to wait in this line at all

  • They just want to see a specialist right now without an appointment

  • But the way that this video represents the line suggests that these people had no choice but to be in it

  • So far in this video

  • We could have chalked most of these things up to just a bunch of incompetence on the part of the New York Times

  • But here's where that starts to change

  • From this point on nearly every single thing in the video is so skewed biased and intentionally misleading that I had to pick and choose

  • Which things to talk about for fear of the video being played too long?

  • Let's take a look at how far the New York Times will go to make a story where one doesn't exist

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  • Even is a children not using cheating. Hey you good luck here

  • We have a lady in line saying that there is supposed to be to thyroid experts today

  • But one cancel the next thing she says is so how many tickets can he get through?

  • She's asking a question. How many people can this one specialist see today? She doesn't know

  • Maybe after the audio cuts off she guesses at 7 or 8

  • But why is the New York Times?

  • depending on a random lady in line to guess about how many people a doctor sees in a day where are all the doctors and

  • hospital staff in this video by the way

  • Take a look at what the New York Times translation says about this lady in line

  • Wondering how many people a specialist sees in a day?

  • Those are not good odds, but even worse they aren't unusual

  • She is asking how many people one by roid expert can see in a day. She has no idea because she doesn't work there

  • She's a patient

  • The New York Times is answering for her and us without telling anyone about it

  • So why is it that they want you to think a specialist could only see seven or eight people in a day?

  • Well, because then it would really seem like these people outside won't get to see a doctor. That's why

  • Do you think that that hospital is overwhelmed by a couple hundred people who showed up early?

  • well

  • Then you don't understand China at all that hospital has over 2,000 medical staff working at it over five hundred of which are doctors

  • Why is there no mention of this at all?

  • This line could be much larger. The hospital wouldn't even have much of an issue at all. They do about

  • 3,500 outpatient and emergency visits not per month like this videos trying to portray per day

  • There are nearly 7,000 people for general practitioner in China to put this number in perspective the World Health Organization's international

  • Standard is one doctor for every 1,500 to 2,000 people

  • There is no universally agreed-upon standard for the general practitioners to people ratio

  • There have been numerous studies and suggestions about the proper ratio

  • But for the sake of moving on let's just assume that the boy narrating the video is right and it's one for every 15

  • Mm notice that this is the only infographic that they'll use that doesn't compare China to America

  • We'll get to that in a second first

  • Let's take a look at their source for China having less general practitioners than the international standard

  • It's the wh o OE CD stats database. Alright, let's take a look

  • Actually, it looks like the WH o OE CD doesn't even track the ratio of General Practitioners per person in China

  • So, how are they sourcing this when the data isn't even there?

  • They do however track the General Practitioners per person in America. Let's take a look. Oh, it's point three one

  • That's one in 3,000

  • 226 well below the so called the international standard. Whoops

  • That explains why you didn't use America's data here after all

  • what kind of crisis would it be if you said both countries don't have enough, but we just want to talk about China and

  • Speaking of the World Health Organization their world map of countries with a critical shortage of health service providers

  • Clearly shows that china is not experiencing a critical shortage of doctors nurses or midwives

  • but of course that information is missing from this video to

  • Also notice how the narrator is talking about general practitioners, but the text says people per doctor

  • That's to make you think he's talking about all doctors when he's actually just talking about general

  • practitioners and if you understood Chinese culture, you'd already know that like I said by far most people specifically look for

  • Specialists rather than general practitioners. Honestly, I would have thought this number would have been much lower

  • I know people here who have literally never ever been to a general practitioner even once in their entire lives

  • and it's not because there aren't enough is because

  • currently the culture is that of no one wants a generalist they want specialists and

  • What the hell does the ratio of general practitioners to people have anything to do with this video?

  • Anyway, these people aren't trying to see general practitioners and general practitioners. Can't help them

  • These people are here to see

  • specialists and

  • Another thing if you're so desperate

  • To live where there are more doctors per person here are some wonderful countries

  • You can move to with more doctors per person than America Cuba Kuwait Russia Saudi Arabia, or how about North Korea?

  • General practitioners we talked to in China typically see 70 to 80 patients per day

  • Specialist said they see up to 200 each just four minutes at a time. Did you catch that?

  • They just two seconds ago told us that the specialist can only see seven or eight people per day

  • So that the line seemed very very scary and now that they have another attack angle

  • They're changing the story suddenly now specialists see up to 200 people per day, which is it New York Times

  • It may come ironically as a news flash to the New York Times to find this out

  • but Chinese culture is not the same as American culture and

  • One of those ways that Chinese people are different than Americans is that they go to the hospital for what you are considered to be

  • damn near everything

  • Stubbed toe a little cut a cold hell sometimes I think they go to the doctor just to have someone to talk to

  • They go all the time

  • And because they actually respect the doctors in China

  • They don't question them as much in my experience

  • if a doctor tells a patient to take some drugs the patient says

  • Thank you doctor and then moves on they don't say what I read about this on WebMD here

  • What about this other thing that someone else said might be better? It's a different culture you get it and

  • another thing painted here is that there's some nefarious reason that Chinese people don't talk to their doctors as long

  • in China

  • There's not a buzzer that goes off after five minutes and then security guards come and take you out of the office you talk to

  • The doctor as long as you want just like anywhere else

  • So you tell me how long do you think it should take for an ear nose and throat specialist to prescribe SUDEP it?

  • Seems like it should be pretty quick to me if you understood this culture at all

  • you would have never used this statistic as evidence of anything other than

  • Not everyone as how you think they should be not everyone is American

  • while rich Chinese will pay for individual care the rest of the

  • Population those dependent on health insurance end up paying roughly 30 percent of their healthcare costs

  • Americans may about 10

  • Individual care in China is extremely rare, even the super-rich go to hospitals

  • Which you would know if again you had ever even been here before?

  • Or you have listened to what the people were telling you instead of just changing everything they say to fit your narrative

  • This is a different culture. It's not a city in America

  • Do you even understand that and why are you playing this sad music?

  • You're making it seem like Chinese people pay more money for health care. They don't

  • why are you using a

  • percent instead of actual amounts versus income

  • Because Americans pay eight times as much out-of-pocket as Chinese people do that's why and they don't make eight times the money

  • so where are all the sad music videos about America, so

  • Now you're about to show a bunch of disturbing footage of people being very upset in hospitals

  • I'm not going to show this footage because it's exploitation of these people's grief. I'm just going to show you a still frame

  • Where you can clearly see what this lady's upset about

  • Numbers like these have added up to a culture of conflict violence has become commonplace in hospitals across China

  • Here we see a lady yelling out. You are all murderers

  • Obviously she had a tragedy someone in her family a loved one has passed away

  • She's overcome with emotion and grief and rage and she's having a horrible experience

  • She's dealing with the worst grief in her life

  • And I just want everyone to notice that what you're trying to say is that she's mad about the bill

  • Look violence in hospitals is rare in China, and it's a problem everywhere

  • I've been to hospitals in China many many times and I've never seen any violence nothing even close to it

  • No one I've ever known has ever seen it anywhere and I just keep wondering why you seem so

  • Determined to show there's some huge crisis here when clearly there's a big problem in America. I mean just take a look

  • new AMA policy calls for research on violence against physicians

  • Violence against emergency room staff were seen as increasing

  • assaults against ER physicians and rising in America nurses face

  • Workplace violence rates higher than in any other industry or how about this one that says hospital violence happen

  • So often that health care workers consider it part of the job

  • Lower how about this video? That was on one of these articles. I just clicked it and watched

  • My trainers was killed in the parking lot of the hospital by a deranged occasion

  • They have a friend from from years ago who was actually targeted by a patient fall at home and

  • killed in his own driveway

  • You're showing us a video of a lady overcome with grief and despair and claiming it somehow because she pays

  • Less money than Americans do I just showed you a video?

  • I found in two seconds where American doctors are talking about their colleagues being

  • tracked down and murdered in parking lots and at their homes and yet for some reason I wasn't able to find your video about the

  • Culture of conflict in America and how violence has become commonplace in hospitals across America? Why is that?

  • The people you showed are upset because they lost a loved one

  • It's not because the bill is too high violence in hospitals has become so common in China

  • There's a word for it, you know, yes in Chinese you can say II now which means hospital disturbance

  • But the point you're trying to make is so juvenile and stupid. I can't believe that I have to tell the New York Times that

  • Having a word for something doesn't make it common

  • They said this in the video and they wrote it in an article. Somebody typed those words

  • It happens so often they even have a word for it

  • let me tell you another thing that happens so often that the Chinese have a name for it Cho seal a

  • That is so common that they even have a word for it. What does that mean? It means ball lightning

  • Happens all the time because they have a word for it

  • Also, did that video say 2012 on it?

  • Let's talk about the most recent statistics in America compared to the previous year according

  • To the ia h SS f crime and incident survey

  • 2017

  • hospital rapes and murders

  • Are up over 11 percent from the previous year

  • Think that's just a fluke all of the crime statistics

  • They track are up all of them assault burglary theft vandalism

  • disorderly conduct motor vehicle theft rape murder

  • It's all up some metrics are up by 40% and during that same time

  • Medical disputes and hospital related crimes went down in China not up

  • So now we're going back to the people who were in life

  • they scan the board of available specialists selecting one based on their best self diagnosis just like

  • Everywhere in the world if you want to specify a doctor you can that's what the board is for to

  • specifically request a doctor if you don't want to request a specific doctor

  • You don't have to you can just walk in and see any old random doctor

  • or you can go to a specific department or you can

  • Go to the counter and say I don't know how to see my leg hurts

  • It's a hospital. It's really not that hard to understand

  • If they're bucking like the one they choose we'll have time to see them just because you choose to see a particular doctor

  • Doesn't mean that they magically have time for you

  • I feel like I'm explaining things to a baby now

  • if they don't have time to see you you can just go see another one or make an appointment at the

  • Kiosk, I mean, did you just send some interns wandering around in a hospital to film everything that confused them?

  • Where is this crisis you're talking about?

  • for those who choose wrong the cycle will begin again tomorrow if you chose a

  • Specialist and you didn't get to see him. You can just go see another doctor that same day

  • The only way you would need to riku is if you somehow didn't know about all the millions of other ways to go in

  • book an appointment

  • Totally ignored the appointment kiosk and then when they told you the doctor didn't have enough time

  • You said I'm not seeing any other doctors. That's the only one I will see

  • I'm coming back tomorrow to wait line, and I'm not making an appointment no matter what you say so far in this video

  • They've introduced the son while leaving out important information about him

  • they interviewed some people waiting around a line and lied several times about what they said and they

  • Showed how little they understand China by parroting irrelevant statistics and they try to say that a lady was

  • Screaming at people in a hospital because the bill was too high but as hard as this is to imagine it actually gets worse

  • from here

  • So finally the video will introduce the lady. I've brought up in the intro. She's speaking a regional dialect in this video

  • So we reached out to a friend of mine who is from her actual City to help us translate this part

  • The person did not know anything about this project or article. He only had the audio and we have confirmed the translation with multiple sources

  • To remind you when they filmed this she had already been fighting lung cancer for six years

  • She got surgery took traditional Chinese medicines got biotherapy turned down

  • Chemotherapy and radiation therapy and took a recipe for eventually giving up. Let's see what they show us

  • Find out what this oi will found out before tea

  • So here she is mentioning that she didn't want chemo or radiation therapy after receiving so many treatments already

  • She didn't want to reduce her quality of life. She felt she was too old and that's where right

  • Years old or dingy so has what a lot headaches

  • Die today yeah new burner satyagraha we don't find a whole

  • So you notice that just shows her talking about how she got sent home with medicine

  • But it doesn't mention any other other treatments that she had before this moment

  • It's just making it seem like she went to the doctors and said I have cancer. What should I do?

  • And they just said go home lady you'll be fine, which is not at all. What happened?

  • she tried multiple treatments and turned down multiple treatments before this moment when she was prescribed paid for and took a

  • lung cancer medicine

  • But why would the doctor tell her that she will be fine?

  • Well, he wouldn't he didn't that's not what she's telling the New York Times at all and yet that's what the New York Times is

  • Telling you they say she said the physician in charge told me ma'am

  • Your cancer is not yet severe you can take some medicine go back home and get some rest. You will be fine

  • But as you guessed that's not at all what she said

  • What she said was the doctor the Maine doctor said Oh

  • Graham your situation you take some medicine back and try to make your body stronger. Okay fine

  • No radiation. No chemo. The doctor is accepting her decision to not do chemo or radiation

  • treatment and

  • Insisting that she at least take medicine and get rest in

  • What appears to be the first honest mistake of the video the New York Times apparently used a non-local translator for this conversation

  • Because they have misunderstood or mistranslated the last words to be you'll be fine

  • They may have thought her trailing off while saying Y Liao was her saying Plato

  • But either way we've confirmed this translation with multiple sources

  • Even if they made one honest mistake

  • It doesn't excuse all the obviously deliberate ones and on top of that. They should have gotten a local translator

  • and if you go to a doctor in America and you find out that you have severe lung cancer and

  • you try surgery and you try traditional medicine and you get

  • Biotherapy and the doctor says we should be doing chemo and radiation therapy

  • And you say no I'm not doing those and then he says, okay. Well, then you need to take this cancer medicine

  • What else are you expecting to happen? I don't understand what comparing this to is there some magic treatment

  • I'm not aware of that. This lady should have received before this point. I don't get it

  • You're just using this lady's horrible tragic story to twist it around to make some weird propaganda film about China

  • It's disgusting then believe it or not. That's not even the worst part yet

  • Play like you know, the Hornets had a doubt of your yeah. Oh that was her son that you know

  • That going up in yet another

  • intentionally mistranslated section

  • The idea here is to make it seem like nothing was tried with her because she didn't have any money

  • So they just let her die

  • So let's listen to what she's actually saying rather than what the New York Times wants you to think that she's saying

  • so they're saying that what she said is I

  • Wasted my time and money and delayed my treatment and my cancer got worse

  • I came back home and said it's already happened this way I give up

  • I'm resigned to my faith, but my younger son wouldn't let me give up

  • the key thing here that they're trying to drive home is that she listened to the doctor and

  • Delayed her treatment and then it was too late for her. That's the message that they're sending to you

  • when actually the only delay that happened was when she

  • declined chemo and radiation therapy

  • Which was again her right to do but actually it doesn't seem like she even said that at all

  • Let's take a look at what she really said

  • We spent energy and money, but it was a waste I said forget it. I'm not going back to see any more doctors

  • My son disagreed and said no, you still have to see doctors here eat some traditional Chinese medicine

  • So what she's saying is really sad the lady is at the end of her line

  • it's been six years since she was diagnosed with severe lung cancer and she survived a very long time with that cancer and

  • This is towards the end of that battle

  • But the thing is she didn't say that the doctors told her to delay her treatment be because she didn't delay treatment

  • She got lots of treatment year after year after year until eventually none of them worked anymore and the cancer

  • Unfortunately one and took this nice lady away from the world

  • but why is the New York Times trying so hard to make it seem like her doctors denied her treatment when again she's the only

  • person in this story who turned down any treatments

  • Can you see now why I was so upset when I saw this video

  • can you imagine what it must be like to have these idiots from America come to your country and

  • exploit the deaths of your people for their own propaganda films against you what a disgusting piece and

  • Just to top it off even the very last thing her son says in this video is intentionally mistranslated. Let's take a look

  • At each other two competing two touching Tyler John

  • No, he didn't say this is our way to treat cancer

  • They're trying to make it seem like he's saying oh, this is just how we do it in China, which is not at all

  • What he saying?

  • What he said was this is how the disease is

  • This is the process

  • Basically, he's saying yeah

  • This is just what cancer is you throw everything at it every type of treatment?

  • You could possibly can and in the end it usually wins and you still die

  • That's what he's saying and they're twisting that around into Oh China doesn't know what to do about cancer, which is so messed up

  • It's like why would you do that? And how is it that you think I wouldn't catch you?

  • Another thing they conveniently left out of the video

  • The cancer rate from women in America is 15% higher than in China

  • the lung cancer rate for women is

  • 19% higher in America than in China and in case you're wondering the cancer death rate in China is the same as Denmark Poland

  • Netherlands France and the UK

  • Do those places have a huge crisis?

  • Where's the New York Times articles about people dying from cancer in those places with someone screaming because of the hospital bill?

  • Someone in line complaining that he was there too early, you know

  • There's plenty of incompetence on display from the New York Times here, like how they call the lady

  • mizdow and then later talk her son moving in with his parents or

  • how they posted the video on the wrong article back in September and then released the right article in November with another wrong video as

  • Of today the videos are still wrong door

  • How about the fact that sweetly we the Singaporean lady living in Beijing who wrote the article?

  • Doesn't even know the city or province

  • These people were in she said the family lives in the province of Liaoning

  • But they actually live over 500 miles away in a different province

  • hubby, but even with these amateur mistakes

  • I can't force myself to believe that this story was born solely from incompetence

  • the evidence for sign of phobia is just too prevalent with hundreds of anti China tweets and

  • Repos on both sui's and video creator Jonah castles twitter accounts. It's no wonder that this article comes off

  • So anti Chinese Jonah Kessel has been making anti Chinese films inside of China for years

  • That's how they make their money by exploiting the Chinese by exploiting the dead and dying in China

  • Look, no country is perfect and no health care system is perfect

  • but this is just a

  • propaganda video plain and simple and it's cast a huge shadow over everything the New York Times has done since

  • How can I trust them to report honestly when they have so clearly shown that they're willing to?

  • mistranslate lie

  • Obfuscate the truth and omit relevant information

  • For those you who want more?

  • Information about me or my book or if you want to see their sources for this video unlike the New York Times

  • I've listed them all out as clear as day on my website Nathan. Rich duh online

  • You know the next time you run a piece about China you need to do more than send out interns to exploit

  • Tragedies and interview people align and then just edit whatever you get to tell some very tale propaganda video. You better come

  • Correct next time because I'm watching you

Hello everyone, I want to talk to you about a video the New York Times released called inside China's predatory healthcare system

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