Name: 艾米-沃爾特和麗莎-勒勒關於民主黨'2020年的籌款規則。 (Amy Walter and Lisa Lerer on Democrats' 2020 fundraising rules)
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JUDY WOODRUFF: Turning back now to the race
for the White House and the divisions over

Representative Omar's recent remarks, it is
time for Politics Monday, with Amy Walter

of The Cook Political Report and Lisa Lerer,
a politics reporter for The New York Times.

He's one of the presidential -- many presidential
candidates out there on the Democratic side.

And, by the way, we should say, Amy, that
today, we had -- on the Republican side, we

just learned in the last few hours Bill Weld
joining -- saying that he will take on the

But, on the Democratic side, Andrew Yang,
and then you had yesterday the -- Pete Buttigieg

announcing officially, jumping into the race.

But talk about Andrew Yang and what his early
message is.

AMY WALTER, The Cook Political Report: Well,
his early message seems to be one of a revolutionary,

I'm not coming in just to be a candidate to
throw some rather traditional ideas around.

I'm going to come in here and put these big,
sort of dramatic ideas, like the universal

basic income, like legalizing a small amount
of heroin, these sorts of things, with the

idea perhaps that it gets to be part of the
conversation.

Even if he is not the candidate, he is not
the front-runner, he doesn't stay in for very

long, that it sparks a conversation within
the rest of the party.

This is what happens at this point in most
campaigns, right?

But many candidates try to put as many ideas
out there as possible, hoping that if they

can't last, maybe one of their ideas will.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Can someone like Yang shape
the race in some way, do you think?

I think it tells us -- his popularity -- he's
already qualified for the debate stage -- tells

us something about the media environment,
the political environment we live in now.

This is someone who really got those -- met
those debate requirements by appearing on

That's something we wouldn't have seen 10
years ago.

And he's kind of this quirky candidate with
some views that are, you point out, you know,

fairly left-wing, like he supports Medicare
for all, and other things like cutting the

federal work force by 15 to 20 percent, which
is something that wouldn't really ring well

But I think we're in a place now where, because
of the Internet, because of podcasts, you

can see candidates get on the stage, have
an influence in the debate, without really

And it brings to the bigger issue now, we're
in this stage that they used to call the invisible

primary, right, before voters get a chance
to weigh in.

All these other factors are supposed to influence
the field.

And so some of those were things that were
written rules and unwritten rules.

The written rules that have changed, the Democrats,
one, you can get on stage now in a debate

not just by where you're polling, but how
many individual donors that you have put together.

At this point, a candidate could become a
front-runner by saying, I have 150 superdelegates

And then the unwritten rules, which are now
no longer being OK among Democratic candidates,

to take money from certain sources, super
PACs, from big corporate donors.

Now everybody wants to have small donors,
which is fine, but it means that you're not

going to get these eye-popping fund-raising
numbers, like you saw in 2016 or 2007.

And the media has also, I think, weighed in
too, saying, maybe we made a mistake in 2016

by trying to label people front-runners too
early.

We're not going to have the same rush to put
the front-runner mantle on someone.

JUDY WOODRUFF: I do want to ask you both about
Pete Buttigieg, who was the flavor of the

But now we're asking, is he more than that?

But I also want to ask you about the money.

But, quickly, about Buttigieg, is he showing
some staying power, Lisa?

LISA LERER: Well, I think he's shown that
he can get himself into maybe the second or

third tier of the race, depending how you're
counting.

And who really knows how we're counting these
days?

LISA LERER: But the question for him now is,
can he build out an organization?

Can he do the kinds of things that you need
to do not just to raise money, but to eventually

But we certainly see that he's a guy who saw
a moment and capitalized it, in a way that

I mean, this is someone who is a mayor of
a mid to small-sized city whose biggest national

accomplishment was losing the race for Democratic
National Committee chairman.

Hat's not traditionally been a qualification
for the presidency.

But for the reasons you point out, we're in
uncharted territory.

JUDY WOODRUFF: He's defied all the -- what
we thought used to be the rules.

AMY WALTER: Although he does fit very well
for this moment.

That's the great thing about politics, is
you can plan your whole life to be perfectly

ready to be president on this date, right?

In 2020, I will have all of -- I will have
checked all the boxes.

But the moment might not be right for you.

And what we saw in 2018, remember, the candidates
who got the most attention, who raised the

most money, who were the most successful were
the ones who were so different from anything

They came from outside of the traditional
avenues for going into Congress.

And Pete Buttigieg, while he's had a long
political career, he doesn't act or sound

like your traditional presidential candidate,
for sure.

JUDY WOODRUFF: And, meanwhile, just quickly,
Lisa, the president, President Trump's campaign

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