It's an honor to be here.

今天很榮幸來到這裡。

Thank you for having me at Google Hong Kong.

謝謝你們邀請我來到香港 Google。

I hope today through this session

我希望今天這場活動

both parties can have a blast.

大家都可以有所收穫。

And at any time if you feel that you want to voice out or ask

大家隨時有任何意見或問題，

questions, please feel free.

都很歡迎。

So when I first got the invitation

一開始接到邀請

to come to Google Hong Kong, I was thinking to myself,

來到香港 Google，我當時就在想，

what the hell am I going to do at Google?

我到底要在 Google 舞台講些什麼？

Seriously.

我真的那麼想。

Because you guys are the people I go to when I look at my stuff.

因為我每次找資料靠的都是你們這群人。

Seriously.

真的是這樣。

It could be through the search engine.

可能是透過搜尋引擎。

It could be through maps.

我可能會用 Google 地圖。

I like to travel a lot.

我非常喜歡旅遊。

I could throw on a backpack and just wander off somewhere into the world and see the world.

我可以拎上背包就開始浪跡天涯，看看世界的某個角落。

So I'm always navigating through maps.

所以我總是靠著 Google 地圖導航。

And lately, actually, speaking of which,I've been trying to pick up on more Japanese.

談到這裡，我最近一直努力學習日文。

So I do this a lot now every day.

所以我每天常這麼做：

Hey Siri-san.

「嘿！Siri 桑！」

I've been trying to pick up on more Japanese.

我一直努力想學好日文。

So lately I've made Google Translate my best friend.

所以最近我都跟 Google 翻譯當好朋友。

So I've even...

我甚至會......

I'm even forcing my smartphone to converse

我甚至把手機設定成日語，

in Japanese with me, because we only have 24 hours a day.

因為我們一天只有 24 小時。

So yeah.

對呀。

But I must say, sometimes the translations

但我必須說，偶爾翻譯出來還是

are still a bit funky.

有點不堪入目。

But 80% of the time it does the job very well.

但是翻譯出來有八成的結果都很棒。

So thank you for whoever out there that's

不管你是誰，謝謝你

making my life a lot easier.

讓我的生活變得輕鬆許多。

I do visit you guys very, very often every day.

我每天都非常頻繁地造訪 Google。

But I'm not here to talk about what we can Google.

不過我今天不是來講 Google 能夠做些什麼。

I think you guys out of everybody

我認為你們是最清楚

knows best what we can search on the internet.

上網搜尋能找到什麼資訊的一群人。

But maybe today we could touch on some other keywords where we

但或許今天我們可以談談其他關鍵字，那些

cannot fully understand through the internet.

透過網路我們無法通徹了解的關鍵字。

Maybe keywords like creativity.

像是創造力。

I think creativity for me, it's the biggest thing.

創造力對我來說是最重要的概念。

Either it be through my music, or my food shows, or movies,

不管是對我的音樂、料理節目、電影，

or my business.

或事業皆然。

Because I think without creativity we cannot really

因為我相信如果沒有創造力，我們就無法真正

ensure our place in the market.

確保自己在市場上的地位。

And eventually you will be left behind in the world.

到最後你就會被這世界遠遠拋下。

Creativity comes in many different forms and styles,

創意有許多不同的形式與風格。

I guess.

我如此認為。

It doesn't have to be through movies

不必然是透過電影

or that kind of artistry.

或者某種藝術創作。

It could be through tennis.

可以透過網球。

It could be through agriculture, architecture, woodworking,

透過農業、建築、木工、

lecturing, whatever it may be.

講課，任何形式都可能。

It could be through programming or engineering.

可以透過程式編寫或工程。

I think if Google was not as creative when they were doing the algorithms back then,

我想 Google 當時設計演算法如果沒那麼有創意，

it would not be what it is today.

今天就無法發展成這樣。

So a lot of people would say, yeah,

所以很多人會說

I'm not the creative type.

我不是有創意的那種人啦！

No.

你錯了。

We all are.

我們都擁有創造力。

We just have to find that one edge.

我們只是得找到自己的創造優勢。

We have to find how we can synergize and capitalize

我們得找到自己在哪裡能夠協同發揮出

on that on our own strengths.

自己的長處。

But it is getting harder and harder to be creative,

但在今天發揮創意變得越來越難，

I think, in this world, because everyday we

我認為是因為我們每天都

are flooded by so much content in our phones.

被那麼多手機上看到的資訊給淹沒了。

All the blogs that we look at, all the comments,

我們看的那些部落格、那些留言、

all the likes, all the streaming, all the films.

那些按讚、串流、影片。

Everything.

各種內容。

But unknowingly, unknowingly we are so almost

但不知不覺地我們幾乎

too inspired to a point where we are losing ourselves,

變得接受太多啟發而漸漸失去自我，

because we are taking in everybody else's ideas--

因為我們吸收的是別人的點子、

their thoughts, their voices.

思想、意見。

Therefore, if we are not creative enough,

因此如果我們不夠有創意，

we tend to what we call--

我們會變得

we would ride on other people's ideas.

受他人意見左右。

Let's twist.

讓我們改變一下就好。

Let's tweak.

讓我們微調一下就行。

Let's-- in Cantonese we would say...

廣東話稱之為二次創作。

But when we get into a habit of that,

但如果我們習慣了這麼做，

we forget about being original, being really creative,

我們就會忘記原創、忘記創意真正的模樣，

starting our own ideas.

忘了怎麼去發揮自己的想法。

And to me that is very, very dangerous, because if what

而對我來說這非常危險，因為如果

you put out is no different than the person next to you,

你產出的東西和旁人沒什麼兩樣，

if what you contribute to the company

如果你貢獻給公司的

is just the same as everybody else in the room,

就跟房間裡其他人一樣，

let me tell you something.

讓我告訴你。

Next year you won't be here.

明年你就待不住那間公司了。

The company doesn't need you.

那公司不需要你。

Eventually the market doesn't need you.

最後市場也不需要你。

And the world-- they don't need you.

而整個世界，大家都不再需要你。

So constantly ask yourself how you

因此不斷地詢問自己能夠如何

can contribute more than the person next to you.

比其他人貢獻的再多一點。

I've been in my industry for more than 22 years now.

我在這個產業已經待了超過 22 年。

And I tell you, I ask myself that question every damn day.

我每天都問自己這個問題。

Every day.

每天都一樣。

Through music, through film, through my shows,

關於音樂、電影、電視節目、

through my business.

我的事業。

How do I be more creative?

我在這些領域要怎麼發揮更多創意？

That is very, very hard.

這點非常非常困難。

And maybe even in some fields, it's getting harder and harder.

而或許在某些領域又變得更困難了。

Like in music, I would say that it is harder for me

像是在音樂上，我認為變得更難去

now to compose a very good piece of music

創造出一首非常棒的樂曲

than it was 15, 20 years ago, because the time

比起 15、20 年前還難，因為像拍子記號

signatures or the combinations of the notes

或音符組合上

are simply being taken up.

都已經被其他人寫過了。

It is harder to write something original than now

很難寫出比現在更原創的東西

and have it not sound like that it has been written by someone,

而讓他不類似於以前某人的創作、

sometime, like some song back then.

以前某一首歌。

Because it's been done.

因為人家已經做過了。

But in our world, that's what is happening

但在我們的世界，這是正在發生的事實

is because all the ideas are being voiced up.

因為所有想法都有抒發管道。

And we are seeing it.

而我們正在見證這件事。

So if we don't voice out loud enough, clear enough,

所以如果我們沒有好好清楚地表達想法，

soon enough, we are actually behind.

表達得不夠快，就會落後於這個世界。

So I urge you--

因此我強力鼓勵你

the first key word that I would want to touch on

我第一個強調的關鍵字

is actually creativity.

就是創造力。

Does anybody have anything to say?

大家有任何想法想說嗎？

Any other things that you want to talk about?

任何其他想談論的主題？

Another word I would say is--

我想提的另一個關鍵字是

a keyword for me is experience, especially--

經驗，尤其是

well, experience in terms of the verb experience, not the noun

實際做過的經驗，不是嘴上說說而已

experience, especially for you lot

尤其是對你們這些

where your work requires you to sit

因為工作需要而必須坐在

behind a desk and a computer the whole day, maybe

桌前、電腦前一整天，或許

the whole year.

一整年都那樣。

But I would say that it is very important

我認為這點非常重要

to get out there to the world and really experience it.

出去這個世界看看，切實地體會它。

Because I think the phone still only brings you halfway.

因為我覺得手機只能領著你到半路。

And you must walk the other half.

你必須自己走完剩下那一半。

You know, nowadays when I'm chatting

最近當我在

with a lot of the younger generation kids, what really

與年輕世代的孩子們聊天，真正

happens a lot is that maybe the topic would

經常出現的主題是

be along the line of, man, I was in--

關於我們現在談的主題，嗯我那時是在......

I was-- I was in Finland last weekend.

上周末在芬蘭。

The Aurora lights, they were beautiful.

北極光美的不可思議。

And then the kid would say something like, yeah.

小孩卻會在一旁說，對啊

I know.

我知道。

I know.

我知道。

I saw it on YouTube.

我在 YouTube 上有看過。

Or yeah, yeah.

或者，對啊對啊，

That was really cool.

極光真的很酷。

I saw it on Facebook.

我在臉書上看過。

Yeah.

是啊。

OK.

好。

Sure.

當然沒錯。

I'm sure it's an opening.

我確信那是一個開端。

It's an idea.

那是一個點子。

It's a glimpse of what it really is.

僅是對事實的驚鴻一瞥。

But if that's how you see things,

但如果那是你看世界的方式，

you don't know...

你根本看不清全貌。

Again, it's a great entrance to the world.

再次強調，那是認識世界的好入口。

But it's halfway.

但只能帶你到半路。

Please, when the opportunity allows, get off your butt

拜託，當你有那個機會，移動你的臀部

and walk the other half, which may be even more important.

走完剩下那一半，後者更加重要。

Experience the world.

經歷這個世界。

The phone is awesome.

手機非常棒。

The net is awesome.

網路非常好。

But that is halfway, halfway.

但都是半路，都只是半路。

Is it too early for you guys, because you

這活動是否對你們太早了？因為你們

guys look kind of stale.

看起來有點精神不濟。

James, maybe we could start with a more Q&A.

James，我們或許該從更多問答開始？

If anybody wants, please jump in.

任何有意願的人歡迎加入。

One of the things that is on our minds

我們心中所想的其中一件事情

is also giving back about creativity,

同樣也是創造力，

it's about experience.

也是關於經驗。

A lot of that is because we're sort

大部分原因是因為我們有點

of going through life through a screen,

像是透過螢幕過生活，

and we're not interacting much.

我們互動得不夠多。

Here at Google we spent a lot of time thinking about what

在 Google 我們花了很多時間在想

we're doing for Hong Kong, how we're supporting non-profits,

我們正為香港做些什麼，我們如何支援非營利組織，

how we're providing services for schools--

我們如何幫助學校服務

training kids that code, for example.

例如訓練小孩寫程式

What advice do you have for us, and also for the broader

你對我們有什麼建議，另外也對更廣大的

millennial crowd who is interested in doing something

千禧世代，他們同樣有興趣做些

for Hong Kong?

對香港有幫助的事情？

How to get started.

要從哪裡做起？

How to think about that.

要怎麼思考這件事情。

And what approach to take.

要用什麼做法。

Thank you.

謝謝你。

Thank you.

謝謝你的提問。

I think keep doing what you're doing.

繼續做你正在做的事。

Really.

真的。

But we cannot lose the--

但我們不能失去

what we're trying to do is share, I think, in this era.

我們正在嘗試的是在這個時代裡進行分享。

And of course, sharing comes in different forms also.

而當然分享也有很多種形式。

And that's what Chef Nic, the brand,

這也是 Nic 主廚這個品牌

is trying to do is because I think even now,

在做的事情，因為我想甚至到了現在

when you see families going off to go out to dinners,

當你看見家庭外出用餐

they're eating through looking through their--

他們一邊吃一邊盯著

looking through their phones the whole time.

他們的手機，持續不輟。

Actually, that's losing the true essence

事實上那是在流失真正的本質

of why we are eating together.

我們究竟為什麼聚在一起吃飯？

And that's what we're trying to promote through the "Chef Nic"

那就是我們試圖透過 Nic 主廚推廣的

show is 鋒味.

電視節目：鋒味。

What is 鋒味 is to actually enjoy a meal together.

鋒味強調的是真正共同享受一頓佳餚。

And that's why-- that's what cooking has also taught me.

那就是煮菜真正教我的事情，

is let me tell you.

讓我告訴你。

I was in really, really bad terms with my parents

我當時和父母的關係非常非常不好，

for the longest time.

持續很長一段時間。

I was in boarding school ever since I was 12.

我 12 歲起就在寄宿學校。

And then at the age of 14, I was sent to Tokyo

然後到了 14 歲我被送到東京

to start training in music.

開始音樂訓練。

By 16, I started working.

到了 16 歲我開始工作。

And I never really got a chance to have

而我從來沒有機會去

a relationship with my parents.

和我的父母建立好關係。

And we've been on bad terms for the longest time,

我們從此關係很長一段時間都不好

until, until I started cooking.

直到我開始煮菜。

Because when you cook, it's the food-- you don't eat it alone.

因為你煮菜的時候，你不會自己吃飯。

You want to share it.

你想要分享菜餚。

You want to get some feedbacks.

你想要獲得回饋。

And it gave me a medium to know how

這讓我有媒介去知道如何

to talk to my parents...

去跟我的父母談話

Whatever you cooked back then was really cool.

不管你那時煮什麼都很酷。

And you want to teach me?

我想說的是什麼？

It became-- now it's a habit, you know.

它現在變成了一種習慣。

Does the food matter?

食物重要嗎？

Of course it does.

當然食物還是重要。

But what really matters is how you find your way to share.

但真正重要的是你找到一個方法去分享。

And I think keep doing what you're doing.

而我想持續做你現在做的事情。

But if you can think of the third party,

但如果你可以找到第三方協助，

then I think that the whole picture is much bigger.

我想整件事會變得規模更大。

Cool.

酷。

Why don't you take a seat.

為什麼不坐下呢？

We'll chat a little bit and get comfortable.

我們來聊一下天、舒服一點。

It was very inspiring talk, hearing talk

那是個非常發人深省的演講，聽到

about creativity and the journey where you just

創造力以及你剛剛提到的旅程

mentioned how cooking brought you and your family closer

煮菜是怎麼讓你和家人變得

together.

更靠近。

Right.

沒錯。

So a little bit on "Chef Nic."

談談你的鋒味。

It's now in its fifth season.

現在已經到第五季了。

We're seeing a lot of traction both online and offline.

我們在網路上、生活中都看到許多關注。

But I want to kind of turn back the clock back to 2014.

但我想回頭談談 2014 年

What besides what you just mentioned about the parents

除了你剛剛提到的父母的事情，

thing-- but what was the thing that made you transition

是什麼讓你轉變

from the singer, the actor to Chef Nic?

從歌星、演員、到鋒味？

And what was that transition like?

這個轉變歷程是什麼？

I didn't think I--

我那時沒想到......

I wasn't looking for a transition, really.

我那時不是想著轉換跑道。

I thought I could do everything together.

我認為我每件事都能做好。

Right?

對吧？

I'm still doing music.

我還是在做音樂。

I'm still doing films.

還是在做電影。

It's weird, because people look at this

那很奇怪，因為人們看著這個......

like I'm moving from woodworking to pharmacy.

像是我從木工做到藥房。

It's not that far.

相距沒有那麼多。

I think what I'm doing with food, with movies, and also