- In many ways, the star of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

從很多方面來說，巫師3狂獵的明星不是傑洛特或希里

isn't Geralt or Ciri,

而是他們所存在的世界

but the world in which they inhabit.

所以今天我們會和CDPR中負責創造這個世界的人們聊聊如何創造這個世界

So today, we're gonna talk to the folks at CD Projekt,

所以今天我們會和CDPR中負責創造這個世界的人們聊聊如何創造這個世界

about creating that world,

一切的一切，從讓人感興趣的地點

everything from the locations of points of interest,

到生活在這些地點的社群

to the communities that live in those places,

再到每個廚櫃上的食物

right down to the food in everyone's cupboards.

為了做到這點，我們必須和團隊討論到三個關鍵

To do this, we must talk to the team

為了做到這點，我們必須和團隊討論到三個關鍵

about three key areas,

關卡設計、環境設計、開放世界設計

level design, environmental design, and open world design.

創造這種規模的世界是一項大工程

Creating a world this size is a monumental effort.

最終版本的狂獵包含了大城市、農莊

The final version of Wild Hunt features large cities, farms,

強盜營地、怪物窩、隱密城堡

bandit camps, monster spawners, hidden castles,

恬靜的農舍以及更多景觀

quiet cottages, and plenty more.

但在所有這些元素完成的數年之前

But, years before of any of those features

但在所有這些元素完成的數年之前

will be finished,

製作團隊得先從一片空白的大陸開始

the team would start with a blank landmass.

我們都有各自專精的地方

- [Len Voiceover] We all have our little specialties.

我們有位資深環境美術

We have one, senior environment artist,

他就負責做樹

all he does is trees.

00:01:20,548 --> 00:01:22,392 我記得是從巫師1就開始

(Danny laughing)

就都是...樹

Since Witcher one, I think,

我們有些人負責地景

like, trees.

有些專門負責設置村莊

Some of us do landscaping.

其他人有些是做房屋的網格(mesh)

Some of us like pretty much, set up villages.

我們一部分人會去檢視整個世界

Others do, like, the meshes of the actual houses.

一部分負責去擺放瓶瓶罐罐

Some of us go through the entire world,

你現在看到的，這個酒館

and just put pots and pans, basically.

所有你在這看到的東西

What you see right now, in this tavern, right,

我們都曾把它們擺進場景裡

everything that you see right here,

要把一個地點做得很漂亮不難

we were putting them on the level.

有點像是..."我們加更多東西進去吧!"

- It's easy to make a place look really, really nice,

但到了某個程度，你會開始想，這樣我要怎麼玩遊戲?

and just, like ah, let's add more stuff to it!

我真的有辦法探索它嗎?

But, at some point, you have to wonder, how do I play this?

還是我會在每個有碰撞的東西上卡住?

Can I even navigate it,

還是我會在每個有碰撞的東西上卡住?

or do I get stuck on every single thing

為了幫助製程，並確認我們的環境，很明顯的不能弄到太瘋狂

that has collision there?

為了幫助製程，並確認我們的環境，很明顯的不能弄到太瘋狂

And to sort of help guide this process,

為了幫助製程，並確認我們的環境，很明顯的不能弄到太瘋狂

and make sure that our environment, obviously,

那算是我們關卡設計的準則

don't get too crazy,

我們與遊戲設計團隊做了很多溝通

that's sort of where our level designers sit.

了解任務設計團隊需要甚麼

We communicate a lot with the gameplay team,

並確認每樣東西都妥善地放進這個世界

the quest designers, to see what their needs are,

並確認每樣東西都妥善地放進這個世界

and make sure that everything is implemented properly

同時我們也嘗試去規劃開放世界應該如何運作，或看起來應該是甚麼樣子

on the world.

同時我們也嘗試去規劃開放世界應該如何運作，或看起來應該是甚麼樣子

And, on the side, we also try to, sort of,

哪裡我們該放森林，哪裡該放山脈

plan how the open world works, or looks like,

村莊在哪?

where we have forests, where we have mountains,

地圖上村落的數量以及密集度應該是多少?

where villages are,

大部分玩家在地圖上碰到事件的頻率有多高?

how dense the amount of villages is on the map,

所以我們有關注點(points of interest)

and how often players should pop into some event.

是和環境關注點結合在一起

- So, we had points of interest,

像是強盜營地的營火

which were combined with environmental points of interest.

地圖上的一些小利益像是隱藏的寶藏

Things like bandit camp fires,

接著我們有遭遇點(points of encounters)

abundance of lands, like like hidden treasures.

簡單的樹林中的怪物窩

Then, we had points of encounters.

或是森林中的強盜營地

So, simple spawners of monsters in the woods,

然後社群

or bandits in the woods.

在村莊中放置居民

And then, the communities.

我們工作室從沒做過開放世界遊戲

Integration of citizen, in villages.

我們工作室從沒做過開放世界遊戲

- [Miles Voiceover] The studio

我也沒有，其他關卡設計師也沒有

had never done an open world game.

所以我們那時坐下來討論

So, neither did I, neither did the other level designers.

"好吧，我猜我們需要一些可以造訪的地方"

And so, we were sitting there, going,

但真正的問題是，我們需要多少這樣的地方?

all right, I guess we need places that we should visit,

我們應該在其中放入甚麼樣的內容?

but the real question was, how many places do we need,

我們一開始很粗略地

and what kind of content do we put into these?

拍下我們世界的2D平面圖

So, we started out very roughly,

然後開始Photoshop

by taking a 2D screenshot of our world,

在上面放置不同的物件、小標記

and just, and Photoshop,

那些我們覺得"這裡該有個地點"的地方

just placing different items, little markers on the world,

我們同時也簡單的去定義它們

where we thought there should be locations of sorts.

好確認它們的一致性

And we roughly define them as well,

也許在這個地方，我們有個農耕地

to make sure that they're consistent.

甚麼可以是這個地點的關注點? 也許是破敗的山丘磨坊

So, maybe on this area, we have farming settlements right,

甚麼可以是這個地點的關注點? 也許是破敗的山丘磨坊

and what could be a POI, maybe a broken down mill

當然，還有農莊本身

on top of a hill.

但我們同時也嘗試確認所有的...

And, of course, the farm itself.

基礎結構是一致的

But, we also try to make sure that everything is...

所以我們會試著將這些東西擺放得靠近彼此

The infrastructure is consistent,

藉由主要道路連接，諸如此類

so we would try to put these places close to each other,

在那之後我們就開始擺放柱體藍圖

connected by main roads, et cetera.

我記得很清楚，那時我們把柱體藍圖放進3D地圖

But, after that, we just took literally blue cylinders,

我記得很清楚，那時我們把柱體藍圖放進3D地圖

I remember vividly, there were blue cylinders,

那些我們覺得應該是甚麼地方的地點

and we placed them on the map, in 3D,

然後我們開始在那之間跑來跑去

where we thought these places would be,

就花時間做這事

and then we started just running in between them,

基本上就是這樣

and taking their time.

看起來每次我碰到其中一個地點，可能是任何大小

Basically going, all right, so,

看起來每次我碰到其中一個地點，可能是任何大小

now, it seems that every minute I run

當時我們還沒有真正定義這些地方是重要地點

into one of these occasions, which could be of any size,

或只是一般的營火

like, we didn't really define if this is a major location,

我們做了一些測試

or just your average campfire.

然後我們發現到...

- [Bartosz Voiceover] We did some tests,

玩家會專注在我們產生出的東西上

and we found out that...

像是每40秒就應該要有些甚麼

Player is focused on stuff which we produce,

然後專注在那上面，像是一群鹿，一些敵人

like every 40 seconds, they should see something,

有些NPC在那閒晃

and focus on it, like a pack of deers, some opponents.

所以我們就有了我們的"40秒規則"

Some NPCs wandering about.

在史凱利傑群島，我們放了很多的水

So, we have our rule of 40 seconds.

對

On Skellige, we add a lot of water.

之前水上的走私犯儲藏箱就出了一個問題

- [Danny] Right!

過去有個海港，跟家族村落一起的

- So, there was a problem with smuggler's caches on the water.

過去有個海港，跟家族村落一起的

- [Miles Voiceover] So, it used to be that the,

那裏之前不是面對大史凱利傑群島的

the bay, with the clan village,

結果造成玩家

it used to be facing away from Ard Skellig,

要不是在錯誤的方位登島

which resulted in players

如果從大史凱利傑島出發的話

either docking on the wrong side of the island,

如果從大史凱利傑島出發的話

going from...

不然就是繞了一大圈，而且...

Ard Skellig.

...之前的船隻航行速度慢非常非常多

Or, having to go all the way around it, and...

我還記得我們有次做測試

Boat speed used to be much, much slower back then!

從一個島到另一個島

(chuckles) I remember we had tests run,

基本上是主要的大島

where (exclaims) you going, from one island to the other,

需要花25到45分鐘

like the bigger islands,

00:05:18,133 --> 00:05:21,088 我們很快就理解到

to somewhere in between 25 and 45 minutes.

這樣是行不通的

(Danny laughing)

結果，我們把整座島轉了180度

(chuckles) We quickly realized that this is not,

所以玩家才能夠一路直航

this is not gonna cut it.

所以玩家才能夠一路直航

And ended up, rotating the entire island by 180 degrees!

並大幅縮減航行到那座港口的時間，大概少了15分鐘左右吧

So that players would actually goes,

並大幅縮減航行到那座港口的時間，大概少了15分鐘左右吧

we'd be able to go straight,

那實在很瘋狂

and that cut down the traveling time,

我認為我們對森林做的安排

to do that harbor, by 15 minutes or so.

大概是因為我們接受了"很難去看到東西"這個事實

It was nuts.

大概是因為我們接受了"很難去看到東西"這個事實

I think what we did for forests

因為大部分的時間

is we sort of started embracing the fact

當你在開放世界走動的時候

that it is hard to see things,

你對於往哪個方向前進大致有個概念

because most of the time,

你知道的，也許你發現你身在史凱利傑

when you're walking around the open world,

接著你看到大史凱利傑島

you kind of have a pretty good idea where you're headed.

有著灰色城堡的要塞

You know, maybe you'll find yourself in Skellige,

我們設計世界的方式是，你會有個起始點

and you see Ard Skellig,

我們設計世界的方式是，你會有個起始點

the fortress with gray castle.

比如說村莊

The way we designed the world,

接著你會看到一個遠方的點，比如城堡

was that maybe you'd have the starting point,

但在這之間

from one village,

路程中會迷失，對吧?

and you'd see the point in the distance, like that castle,

所以你會看到你冒險旅程的一個起始點

but somewhere in between,

就是你所在的地方

the road would be lost, right?

你知道終點在那

So, you'd see your starting point of your adventure,

然後你知道前往那個地方的大概方向

which is where you are. (chuckles)

但有時候我們在中間擺了一座森林

You know the end,

就為了能讓玩家在其中迷失

and you know the rough general direction that you head for,

當我們這麼做的時候，我們通常還是會放主要幹道

but sometimes we put a forest in between,

也是比較安全的地點

just to get, to allow the player to get lost.

通常你騎馬經過的時候

When we did that, we usually, still had our main roads,

不太會受到大部分怪物的攻擊

the more safer spaces,

除非我們就是想讓玩家在那地方被攻擊

that if you were to just ride through them,

[傑洛特]食屍鬼巢

you shouldn't really be attacked by most monsters,

[傑洛特]得把巢摧毀

unless we really wanted you to.

00:06:38,873 --> 00:06:39,739 製作關注點可以讓玩家在探索的過程中更加輕鬆

- Ghoul nest.

製作關注點可以讓玩家在探索的過程中更加輕鬆

Oughta just destroy it.

只要往四周一看，就...

Now, how long are you gonna have me wait?

"啊，在那邊，山丘上有座堡壘"

- [Miles Voiceover] Making POIs,

我之前我看到過幾次

that allow the player to navigate the world much easier,

但現在我從這個角度看到它

that just simply looking around, and like,

所以我就可以從這關聯性知道，現在我在哪裡

ah, there was this, this fort on the hill

我認為地形確實也有幫助到這點

that I've seen a couple times here,

諾維格瑞本身也依賴這點

but now, I seem to see it from this side,

那裏有神殿島，是全城最高的地點

so I know, in relation to that, this is where I am,

那裏有神殿島，是全城最高的地點

I think the landscape does help with that,

然後有富有的高級地區

and Novigrad sort of lended itself to this,

地勢也比較貧困的地區來得高

with the temple island being there, the...

一整個坡度綿延連接整座城市

The most highest point,

我猜有些道路配置是蠻聰明的

and then you have the richer areas,

總體來說，如果你觀察這座城市

which are higher than the poor area,

大道路只有幾條

so you have this gradient throughout the city,

記得大概兩條吧

and I guess some clever road placement.

然後各區塊的特色界定的鉅細靡遺，像是港口

Overall, if you look at the city,

像是魚市、主廣場

there's just a handful of main roads.

貧民區、富人區、神殿島...

I think there's like two,

這些對地區的風格定義可以幫助玩家搞清楚

and the areas can be very broadly defined, like the harbor,

該怎麼走? 在城市中的哪個位置?

you have the fish market, you have the main square,

而不用一直去看地圖

the poor area, the rich area, and the temple island, so...

00:07:37,733 --> 00:07:39,551 所以這...

This definitely helps allowing the player

這工作從我們的環境設計團隊開始

to sort of figure his way, his way around the city,

他們準備建築物

without actually having to consult the map all the time.

比方說一整組的給村莊用

- [Danny] Right.

接著我們團隊決定這些地點中的人們有著甚麼目的

- So, the...

接著我們團隊決定這些地點中的人們有著甚麼目的

work starts in our environmental team,

然後我們修正動作

they preparing buildings,

並為他們準備台詞

like a whole setup of the village.

所以我們有了一個準備好的村莊

Then, my team is deciding what kind of purposes

所以我們有了一個準備好的村莊

people have in those spots.

舉例來說，我們有個史凱利傑的岸邊村莊

Then, we are recasting animations,

舉例來說，我們有個史凱利傑的岸邊村莊

and preparing dialogues for them.

我們需要設置一個漁夫聚落

So then, we will have,

因此需要準備給漁夫用的東西

we have the whole village prepared.

接著為他們準備台詞

For example, we have a village on the coast,

接下來全部元素放在一起就表現出一個可信的聚落

of the Ard Skellig,

我們其中一群人

so we need to set up like a fishermen community,

或多或少喜歡一種簡略的作法

so requesting rocks for fishermen,

我們這裡放點房子，然後這邊放道路

and then preparing dialogues for them,

然後放幾個圓木桶

and then, together, everything creates believable settlement.

然後看起來就這樣了

- So, some of us do, like,

房子裡是空的，甚麼都沒有

more, more or less, rough paths.

然後另一個人進來

So, we put the house there, we put the road there,

或說碰巧撞進來

and we put the couple of wheel barrows,

然後他們說"這裡好空!"

and then it just looks like that.

"我得做點甚麼!"

The houses are empty, nothing.

00:08:37,112 --> 00:08:39,893 所以他們就想"OK，我來種點花"

And then, another guy comes in,

之類的東西

or potentially stumbles upon it, in our editor,

"讓我放塊石頭!還有這個"

and they're like, this looks so bare!

或是...

I need to do something about it!

我們來幫牆壁加點貼圖材質

(Danny laughing)

多來點苔癬吧

And so, they're like, okay, let me plant some flowers,

讓它看起來細節更多

and stuff like that!

"OK，我的工作結束了"，然後他們就離開了

Like, let me put some more rocks, and stuff like that,

"OK，我的工作結束了"，然後他們就離開了

or like...

在那個當下看起來OK了

Let's add more decals on the wall,

接著任務組的人來了，然後說

like a little bit more moss,

"喔這裡有個有座可愛的小村莊"

so it looks a little bit more detailed,

"我們在這裏面放點甚麼吧"

and then they leave, because they're like,

"等等，屋子是空的"

okay, my work is done.

然後他們就會給出需求

It looks okay, now.

"你們可以在那裏面放點東西嗎?"

And then, the quest guy comes in, and he's like,

接著我們就會有人進去

oh, what's this cute, little village?

然後開始裝飾

Ah, let me put something in it!

我們會去問任務設計師

But it, the houses are empty.

"那是個怎麼樣的故事?"

And then, they put on a request,

"有哪些角色會在這裡?"

take it, and put something in there, you know?

"他們之間的關係如何?"

And so, some of us go right in,

"甚麼?這人死了?"

and we start decorating,

"OK，那他們應該要死在屋子內嗎?"

and we interview, actually, the quest designer.

"或者他們是..."

What's your story about?

你知道的，這類的問題

Like, who are the characters involved?

你把這些列入考慮

Do they get along?

還有得到的資訊

What, this person is dead?

綜合在一起設計屋子的內在、個性

Okay, are they supposed to be dead inside the house,

綜合在一起設計屋子的內在、個性

or are they supposed to,

綜合在一起設計屋子的內在、個性

you know, and these kinds of questions.

接著在那之後，我們從屋子出來了

You take that into account,

就會覺得"這地方好像還是有點空耶"

and with that bit of information,

然後我們再偷塞幾個木桶進去

we designed inside of the house,

一點一點地

the tailor, that kind of personality,

有人就是這樣，掃視一下整個地形後

or other people looking in it.

"這感覺..."

And then, after that, we leave the house, and we're like,

"這裡我加點甚麼好了"

this place is still quite barren, you know?

到最後，一個村莊就完成了

And then, I'll just sneak in a couple of barrels over here.

有時候你需要一整個村莊的人力來打造一個村莊

And then, little by little,