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  • - Hi, guys, I'm Amanda Martin

  • from Lindsey's Suite Deals Furniture.

  • I came to VaynerMedia because I wanted to

  • see how they could help my business.

  • We did a few initial rounds of questions,

  • and we felt that we were a good fit for each other.

  • And what you guys are gonna watch is our first meeting

  • about our brand, and just discussing

  • what we were doing and getting into a deep dive

  • of how we operate day-to-day business,

  • and what we do to try to promote our business,

  • and our marketing, and just everyday operations.

  • And it was so exciting to be in that meeting

  • and go through with all the Vayner mentors

  • and really dig deep into our business.

  • I can't wait for you guys to watch this,

  • and hopefully somebody will learn something from it.

  • I had a really good time doing this meeting,

  • and I learned a lot, and we are implementing

  • some of our tactics, and I cannot even begin to tell you

  • how much it has helped, and the results that we've

  • been getting, and I can't wait for the future

  • and to implement some more of our ideas and tactics.

  • Hope you guys enjoy it.

  • Bye!

  • (intense music)

  • - You've got your perspective.

  • I just wanna be happy, don't you wanna be happy?

  • It's such a pleasure,

  • how are you? - Nice to meet you.

  • - Hi! - Hi, good to see you.

  • - Me too. - So glad to see you.

  • For two and a half years, my family business

  • was known as Shopper's Discount Liquors.

  • There was a sign printed on an eight by 10

  • on the front sliding door

  • that said "Wine Library," and that's how I,

  • two and a half years, I traded as winelibrary.com

  • and then made the shift to Wine Library

  • from Shopper's Discount Liquors.

  • So, one of the things you may want to debate, here,

  • is if you're trading differently on dot-com,

  • building up that brand equity,

  • and then, if you decide that brand is something

  • that you can put on the front of the building,

  • it might be a worthwhile debate.

  • - [Male] Yep.

  • - So have, like, a different website name?

  • - Yes. - Okay.

  • - It's the easiest way for you to, like,

  • solve this potential issue, I'm coming in cold,

  • I'm listening, but it's being done a lot.

  • Like, there's a lot of opportunity to play both fronts,

  • and then you'll have the options to be able to absorb it,

  • and with 85 fucking thousand square feet

  • even if 20,000 or 30,000, how much is retail?

  • No, no, some of it's warehouse.

  • - [Male] I'd say we're probably right at 50,000 retail.

  • - Right, it's unlimited space AKA picking one of the corners

  • and doing something just like cool

  • with like coffee and computers

  • and calling it furniture, whatever you call it,

  • let's just call it, Orsini's House,

  • let's say that's the brand you went with,

  • calling that corner like Orsini's Cafe,

  • there's a couple tables,

  • little fresh coffee

  • and you've got laptops there

  • and it's all to Orsini's,

  • now you've injected that in your,

  • it's an organ within your body

  • that eventually could become the body.

  • Something to think about. - So like on the computers

  • they'd be able to shop the website or?

  • - Yes.

  • It's just establishing the brand strategically.

  • Like I would argue one of the things

  • that may come up here today

  • is literally looking at 5,000 square feet

  • to do something completely left fucking field,

  • like a coworking space.

  • If you're selling B to B merch,

  • are you selling to B to B's at all?

  • - [Amanda] Not really.

  • - It's kind of an interesting conversation

  • as start up craze takes over the world.

  • I know this is super left field

  • but what if you did have three to five thousand square feet

  • of coworking space

  • and had entrepreneurs sitting there

  • the same way Starbucks has them sitting there

  • and then that started giving you a B to B flavor

  • 'cause you have people there

  • and all of a sudden even the area they're in

  • has B to B thinking around,

  • it's more like do you need a couch for your office?

  • That could just change the dynamics

  • of different usage for you.

  • Look, I think both ways can work.

  • To me, the bigger question

  • is what are you trying to accomplish?

  • So let me ask a different question,

  • what's your lease situation?

  • - [Amanda] We're buying the building.

  • - That's great.

  • So I assume that's a big capital expenditure?

  • - [Amanda] Mmhmm.

  • - So I think you've got to really be smart here

  • because if you're making that cog move,

  • I do not believe it's a good buy

  • no matter how good of a deal you're getting

  • unless you turn the location into something

  • more than what you actually do.

  • I couldn't say this enough.

  • You're so young.

  • I'm so worried about what your business looks like

  • between a dot-com and a physical location

  • a decade from today, not this year,

  • that I think what this is all about,

  • the reason we even built mentors

  • is I knew that in these meetings,

  • there's gonna be one to three things that we could bring

  • that are disproportionately impactful

  • for what it costs in return.

  • The number one thing I would tell you

  • is the two things that you need to care about,

  • I literally don't care

  • about anything else in your business right now

  • other than two things.

  • One, the hell are you gonna do

  • inside your 85,000 square feet that's different

  • that has nothing to do or is complementary to what you do

  • for the sake of the business?

  • Even marketing, back to B to B,

  • real estate, what if you're the stage

  • for all real estate events in your,

  • you have to figure that out.

  • And number two, you have to figure out dot-com.

  • Every day that you wake up,

  • find good deals, taking care of your staff,

  • taking care of your customers, amazing,

  • guess what?

  • Number three, four and five.

  • Number one and two is what other capital

  • are we gonna pour into this 85,000 square feet

  • that are gonna,

  • like you know what comes with renovations,

  • you may have to have a separate entrance,

  • you may have to, who the hell knows right?

  • I couldn't stress enough of that importance,

  • in parallel, you're pulling from opposite directions.

  • You're making a double investment into your physical

  • and you're trying to almost eliminate people

  • from coming in to build up your dot-com,

  • that religion.

  • It's what I did.

  • I love giving advice I took.

  • We built a seven million dollar building

  • while we poured every asset into building winelibrary.com

  • into one of the biggest leaders.

  • And if my dad was sitting here right now,

  • his biggest concern is like foot traffic is down.

  • The end. - Yeah

  • and I think sometimes my long term sight

  • that's what I get worried about

  • but I know that E-com is important as well.

  • - There is no as well.

  • - [Male] Everything's equally important.

  • We have to build today,

  • no, we've got to think about tomorrow

  • and me being on the front end of all this,

  • that's what I deal with every single day.

  • Everybody walks through that door

  • no matter how I price, what floor structure I have,

  • they've got their phone in front of them.

  • - I want this. - I can get it here

  • for this price.

  • - Are you willing to match it?

  • And I apologize, what are you doing in that scenario?

  • Are you matching pricing?

  • - [Male] Oh yeah.

  • - 100% of the time, if it's legit?

  • - [Male] There's some things that we see--

  • - [Amanda] 98% of the time.

  • - [Male] I had an instance the other day

  • where we was gonna make seven bucks.

  • - I think you're making a huge mistake then

  • and you have a huge opportunity.

  • Let me tell you a story.

  • My dad,

  • in the liquor business they have something called the ABC.

  • ABC came in one day and they're like,

  • "You can't do case discounts."

  • My dad's reaction was to put everything at 15% off

  • from bottle one.

  • So it wasn't even a case discount anymore,

  • in essence, everything was on sale.

  • - The store was on sale.

  • - The store was on sale.

  • So some things were on sale sale

  • like it was 15, it's 9.99

  • but if it wasn't, if it was just a regular item, it was 15,

  • by default it rung up at the register 15% off.

  • The problem was he never told anyone.

  • We did no marketing.

  • So overnight one day,

  • we became the best priced store in the state

  • yet nobody knew

  • and people didn't even know

  • 'cause we didn't do internal signage.

  • I'm just telling you the truth.

  • People would be like, alright, I'm gonna buy this for 15,

  • you get to the register and it's 13.40,

  • ahh, okay.

  • - Price mistake.

  • - I am telling you right now,

  • I'm telling you right now,

  • the number one thing I would do right now,

  • temporary banner sign, not sign on the building,

  • is have as big of a sign as the town will let you say

  • that we match all internet prices,

  • little asterisk, as you get closer to the building it says,

  • two percent, like, I would just arbitrarily,

  • and you've got to find out the like,

  • but I think it's two percent of times

  • there are some restrictions or private labels

  • that we're unable to match.

  • Nobody driving by your building

  • and coming to your store thinks that.

  • Here's my question,

  • if the truth is,

  • if five out of 10 people

  • are actually doing what you just said,

  • I would tell you that you should go there.

  • If it's three out of 10

  • but it feels like every person,

  • then you've got to debate

  • because you'd be giving up a lot of margin.

  • If it's seven out of 10,

  • you might want to make it a permanent sign in your building.

  • Now my question is, what is it really?

  • What's your gut tell you?

  • - [Male] I would say that actually approaches

  • me or a sales person on the floor

  • probably three out of 10.

  • - But you know it's

  • in their minds. - But when I'm

  • walking around that store,

  • they don't know I'm-- - Everyone's on the phone.

  • Watching.

  • - 20 feet away and I see a husband and wife

  • over there with their telephone out,

  • I don't think they're texting their grandkids.

  • - Do you believe they're looking at the couch

  • testing, touching and then ordering online?

  • 'Cause I think that's what's happening.

  • - [Male] From somebody else?

  • - Yes 'cause that's what's happening

  • at Best Buy and Target and many other places.

  • - [Male] And I do realize even with,

  • you can take not just internet wise,

  • I know we're losing some sales there

  • but even say the Ashley Home Store across town,

  • we sell Ashley furniture as well.

  • There's certain things that there are

  • over there in that show room they can't find,

  • maybe if they like their experience better over there

  • and they think they're getting a better price,

  • they're in Lindsey's sitting on that sofa,

  • walk out the door and go back over there and buy it.

  • - Who's the better price, you or them?

  • - [Male] I beat them up and down the road every day.

  • - [Amanda] When we go to our Ashley reps,

  • they say that they

  • brag about us all the time. - They bring it in display,

  • I don't care if--

  • - [Male] I'll tell you what I came to find.

  • I didn't realize that Ashley is two things,

  • corporate owned Ashley where I got great prices

  • and franchise Ashley where I can't get great prices.

  • - [Male] And then--

  • - And then retailers.

  • - [Male] And then you've got walmart.com--

  • - Have you guys built a private label?

  • - [Male] We've worked toward it with some Ashley furniture

  • about turning a section called Our Rooms.

  • Ashley will actually provide these tags,

  • we're the only ones that can have it

  • I think within 300 miles, something like that.

  • We've been working toward that goal

  • of just snatching the Ashley tags altogether,

  • putting the Our Rooms tag--

  • - I'm listening, keep going.

  • - [Male] And more or less creating that--

  • - Brand.

  • - [Male] Yeah that hey, this is us,

  • this isn't Ashley.

  • And I realize somebody could lift a cushion

  • and they could figure it out

  • but most people shopping furniture,

  • in my eyes, they don't know the difference

  • between coaster Ashley or Jim Bob's.

  • - Yeah.

  • - [Male] They sit on it, they like it,

  • they feel it, they touch it.

  • - It looks good, let's go.

  • - It's all about the profit to me.

  • If we're not making profit--

  • - 'Cause Mr. Lindsey grew up in the day of discount

  • the way my dad did.

  • It's what my dad did too.

  • - He'd buy a coach for $400,

  • he sell it for 125 bucks

  • and it was all about this big number at the end of the day

  • but if he didn't make any damn money--

  • - He was trying to make as much sales as possible.

  • - [Amanda] Sales yeah.

  • - Yep, listen I know it.

  • I'm actually a believer in it.

  • VaynerMedia doesn't make any money either.

  • I believe in it,

  • you just have to get the biggest value for it

  • and then to your point,

  • it also depends on what you're trying,

  • 10% profit at the end of the year

  • feels different than four and 40.

  • - Gary, what made you pivot?

  • 'Cause there may be some similarities here.

  • They came in with an expansion plan

  • and didn't you originally think

  • you were gonna have 10 Wine Libraries?

  • - Yes.

  • - And then moved in a different direction,

  • where one giant one--

  • - Because the dot-com had way more potential in it

  • than I anticipated at the time.

  • - But you still expanded the one that you had?

  • - Dramatically. - They still have

  • 32,000 square feet, they're now at 80,000.

  • - Yeah, but moments in time.

  • If I could eliminate the second floor

  • of my dad's store right now, I would.

  • - And I think categories as well.

  • - I just think that making the buying,

  • why are you buying the building?

  • Just 'cause you're young and fuck it,

  • let me just buy an asset?

  • - [Amanda] Yeah because down the road,

  • it could be anything. - It's an asset.

  • I think that's right.

  • And why 'cause the landlord's selling?

  • Landlord's selling?

  • Did Mr. Lindsey never own it?

  • - [Amanda] No.

  • It was a different guy.

  • He's out of Birmingham

  • but it was actually an RV center

  • and he doesn't live in Panama City,

  • it sat there empty for sale for a really, really long time

  • and we were in the same plaza and our lease was up

  • and so we started debating and we're like,

  • well it just at the time made sense to go in and purchase.

  • - And you did that already?

  • - [Amanda] I mean we're still paying obviously but--

  • - Of course but you did buy it, you got it?

  • Oh great, awesome.

  • - And so then the same owner

  • actually has a piece of property next door,

  • still wooded

  • but my long term goal is buy that,

  • tear all the woods down

  • and make that the warehouse.

  • - Interesting.

  • - So then I can take the wall back down.

  • - If you do not build a private brand,

  • you will lose.

  • If you don't make a massive commitment to building a brand,

  • you will lose.

  • I genuinely believe that.

  • You're making such an investment

  • in a decreasing asset

  • to where the future's going.

  • You have to at all costs,

  • and whether you start light

  • with using Ashley to do it for you

  • and you graduate one day

  • 'cause there's a third senior partner here

  • and her or his job is to go to China

  • 'cause she used to work at Ashley

  • and now she's your creator of product,

  • she comes back with a bubble wrap based fabric this,

  • five people couches instead of one

  • or foldable or I saw that one company

  • you can make a couch in a box, expandable.

  • So whatever it is,

  • I'm gonna tell you right now, one man's point of view,

  • what I think you paid for,

  • you have to figure out what to do with some of your space

  • that does not do what you do now,

  • that has to be so left field thinking,

  • coworking space, a cafe,

  • number two, you have to figure out dot-com

  • and I mean like.

  • - [Male] Yesterday.

  • - Yesterday.

  • I apologize and yes of course,

  • and then number three,

  • you have to create a private label.

  • Name it after some kids, grandkids, uncle, Lindsey himself,

  • maybe when you rebrand the company

  • maybe that's the private label itself,

  • who the hell knows?

  • It will be your only asset.

  • You're so young.

  • It's going to be your asset in 30 years.

  • Your private label business

  • will be more valuable than your real estate.

  • Are you able to offer something

  • above and beyond the actual product?

  • So to me the next logical place

  • to have a conversation

  • is the service of room design.

  • The thing that makes somebody actually buy from you

  • and pay $35 more

  • is that they value the $100 room design fee from Sarah

  • that you built up on YouTube and Facebook

  • and Sarah is your Sarah.

  • So one of the things I'm thin,

  • this is a very comfortable zone for me to strategize around

  • 'cause I lived it,

  • service layered on top of retail

  • is a very big deal for you

  • because if you go far out with the shipping,

  • me in my 20s single guy and I want to put furniture in,

  • I don't know where the fuck to put it, whatever.

  • If I knew that I could spend an extra 100 bucks

  • because the website showed a video and she's like,

  • "I'm Karen, I'll literally come to your house

  • "for an extra 100 bucks on top of your $1,000 order

  • "and it's super worth it because I'll Feng shui this

  • "and I'll shmay this," and whatever the hell it is.

  • I think you need to start debating that.

  • Everything that I'm hearing from your business

  • is what I love

  • because you've got the foundational aspect of it down

  • but you guys are smart

  • and realize that's a rat race.

  • If you keep doing the business

  • the way you're exactly doing it,

  • they'll be good years,

  • they'll be bad years,

  • but it all is getting trickled away every single day.

  • It's kind of why I had to do a wine club for my dad.

  • He needed an injection this last summer

  • because he needed more cash to do more marketing

  • and I created a wine club that generated $2 million for him.

  • Every single month, he's getting that

  • and we're able to use those dollars to market

  • and now we're starting, got it?

  • You need those injections.

  • To me, dot-com is not an injection.

  • Dot-com's a fucking artery,

  • back to a body, dot-com's like a heart,

  • what else can't you live?

  • - Lung.

  • - But you can live with one right?

  • - With one, yes.

  • - Yeah, so I'm thinking about only one,

  • what else can't you live without?

  • - [Female] Your brain.

  • - Fair.

  • So to me, no that's perfect,

  • the retail store is the heart and the brain,

  • the heart and the brain.

  • And the heart can be the store

  • and the brain can be the dot-com,

  • I like the analogy of that

  • and that's not being creative,

  • that's just table stakes.

  • Adding a service on top of,

  • with videos, with YouTube

  • 'cause you never go away

  • and a new interior designer,

  • adding a private label,

  • taking 5,000 square feet in your store

  • and literally going rogue as fuck,

  • like I don't know, put a fitness thing in,

  • could you imagine if you put,

  • you know how many influencers in fitness

  • there are on Instagram now?

  • Could you imagine if you just put a fitness area in there

  • and literally it was in essence

  • a free workout club?

  • - [Male] Or Ikea who put that child setup area

  • where kids play.

  • - Or you start--

  • - [Amanda] 'Cause I've seen some who have IMAX theaters.

  • I think in Connecticut there's one.

  • - [Male] There's one in Connecticut

  • that's got climbing walls in it.

  • - A furniture store?

  • - [Male] Yeah.

  • - Makes fucking sense, makes sense.

  • - Swedish meatballs at IKEA.

  • Well known, people go there

  • just to have the Swedish meatballs.

  • - You've got to give them another reason to come.

  • - I've been saying that the last six, eight months.

  • We need to become a destination store

  • that's something cool. - You're too big,

  • 85,000 square feet.

  • - Well and another--

  • - I apologize real quick

  • because I don't want to lose the thought,

  • and if you reverse engineer who your clients are,

  • then you can really make it good

  • meaning, that's why I like classes,

  • we're starting to play with it a little bit at Wine Library,

  • if you're doing business classes,

  • think about who you want

  • because if you do,

  • so I did something for the last year at Wine Library as well

  • where I'm running Facebook ads

  • to give away $10 worth of free food, straight up.

  • Just walk in, get some sausage, get some cheese,

  • get some pickles and 9.09 and walk up to the register,

  • scan a barcode and you're out.

  • And it's driving my dad crazy because

  • and you'll love this Dennis, he goes,

  • "The fucking Russians are coming in here

  • "and they're sending their aunt and their uncle."

  • And I'm like, "Dad, the whites and the African Americans

  • "and the Latinos, they're also doing it

  • "but the Russians rub you the wrong way."

  • He goes, "I know because they're speaking Russian,

  • "he doesn't know that he can understand them

  • "and they're like, "These,""

  • and they're saying things like,

  • "These fucking idiots,

  • "they don't realize we're getting $50 worth of free food."

  • And I'm saying to my dad,

  • I go, "Dad, you don't get it.

  • "If you run the numbers,

  • "if you look at the receipts,

  • "we're making enough on the added sales

  • "for the people that aren't breaking the system

  • "and are buying $280 worth of stuff on top of it

  • "and we're running it in hours

  • "where we don't have people coming in

  • "and it's great for all the people driving by our highway

  • "seeing a full parking lot at 10 AM."

  • Got it?

  • Brand.

  • I think about brand.

  • You live in Springfield,

  • you've now started shopping at King's too,

  • supermarket started having wine, hurt our business,

  • makes sense, right, convenience.

  • They're four, five, six, seven dollars a bottle more.

  • But it's an affluent area

  • and I don't want to go to Wine Library for 10 minutes

  • and pay seven dollars less on this $17 item, I'm rich.

  • And so

  • a person driving to King's to their food market

  • at 9:35 in the morning

  • and seeing a full Wine Library parking lot, that works.

  • - [Male] Their wife.

  • - Uh huh, they're like,

  • just everybody, a human,

  • oh, they're busy. - What's going on there?

  • - [Amanda] Yeah, what's going on?

  • - So food trucks is another thing

  • that's really worked for me.

  • I don't know what your parking,

  • you own the building, it's a shopping center

  • or free standing store?

  • - [Amanda] Shopping center.

  • - So you don't own the shopping center?

  • - [Amanda] Well that part we own.

  • - [Male] Seven and a half acres total.

  • - You have a lot of parking?

  • Can I make a huge, huge random idea?

  • You should do food truck events in your parking lot

  • on weekends.

  • There's so many food truck businesses in Florida.

  • Go on Twitter, find them,

  • go on Instagram, find them,

  • invite them, offer them free space.

  • Be like, hey, come,

  • and then market it,

  • do you have an email newsletter for your customers?

  • - [Amanda] No.

  • - Okay, we have to do that ASAP.

  • Highly, highly, do you have a card, a membership card?

  • You have no data on your customers?

  • - [Male] No.

  • - This is great.

  • This is so fun for me.

  • How bad is your POS system, old school?

  • - [Amanda] Old school.

  • - You should have every single customer's information,

  • every single customer.

  • You have a high ticket item.

  • What's the average sale?

  • - 1,500.

  • - Fuck me, this is great.

  • - 3,000 purchases a year roughly.

  • - [Amanda] Roughly.

  • - Right.

  • Can you sell something less expensive?

  • Can we come up with a signature product,

  • what happens when it snows?

  • It doesn't snow in Florida.

  • I'm sorry, that's not where I'm going.

  • (crosstalk)

  • - What happens when it snow?

  • - Sweat at the grave.

  • - Fans and air conditioning, do you go that route?

  • You don't go hard weary that way, right?

  • - Do you have universities around?

  • - Community college.

  • Oh actually Florida State has a branch there.

  • - What do you mean has a, oh has a...

  • - Target buses, students

  • before they move into dorms every year.

  • - God, there's so much you could be doing.

  • It's cool. - There are no dorms.

  • - There are no dorms?

  • - It's a commuter FSU.

  • - Rentals.

  • - [Amanda] Rentals.

  • - Exactly. - And then we have

  • a lot of new developments going up.

  • - Back to school drives

  • when you send buses, bring hundreds of students,

  • they shop, you drive them back.

  • - Gary, what do you think about this?

  • The new brand, it's an E-com or digital company

  • that happens to have a retail location?

  • It's completely different thinking.

  • Not that you have a retail store that has a website.

  • It's an E-com company

  • that happens to have a retail location.

  • - That's what Wine Library became.

  • - I like it.

  • Just the dynamic of what we do every day

  • and what I live every day on the front lines,

  • I just feel like we've got to get there.

  • - So here's what I would say,

  • a couple things you have to wrap your head around.

  • You're gonna have to hire somebody to run your dot-com.

  • You're gonna have to have too much expertise to compete.

  • It's not 1997 anymore

  • where everybody was kind of figuring it out.

  • You're gonna need something.

  • And the good news is

  • there's a lot of young bucks out there

  • who will love the autonomy

  • and will flat out think,

  • I'll take this job 'cause I'll be able to learn everything

  • and I'll leave in three years

  • and honestly, that's a good trade,

  • good for you, good for them.

  • I do believe in parts of the country

  • you can get somebody that's very knowledgeable

  • for 40 to 60,000

  • which we would laugh here,

  • it would cost us 250 for those skills

  • but I do think it's out there, I do, I really do.

  • You've got to find the right kid

  • or the right retiree

  • or there's a million different things.

  • - 'Cause that's my biggest thing,

  • the website we have now,

  • we only have seven to 10 of our companies on there

  • 'cause that's all the catalogs

  • that the website company has built

  • but 10 is all they allow me on there.

  • So there's so many more brands

  • and products-- - What do you use?

  • What do you use for that?

  • 'Cause I couldn't figure out what platform.

  • - [Amanda] The company?

  • It's a renaissance group

  • out of Jersey. - Are there a reason

  • why you use that and not Shopify?

  • - Because they're more catered to the furniture industry.

  • - Really?

  • - So they already had the catalogs built.

  • So all I had to say was okay, add these companies

  • and then here's my mark up and then it was done.

  • I didn't have to send them a bunch of pictures,

  • I didn't have to send them

  • my lead sales. - When we rethink it,

  • we can think Shopify gives you tremendous platform

  • and then on top of that,

  • building that catalog,

  • I have built catalogs that have 25,000 items

  • and it's an investment.

  • Once you make that investment,

  • you could be the platform.

  • 'Cause right now, you're getting boxed in

  • to no solutions, right?

  • - No Solutions yet, exactly except from Gary.

  • Let's quickly shift gears to brand, right?

  • What kind of brand are you envisioning you can build?

  • What do you have in your guts?

  • What is it that you have

  • that differentiates yourself from others?

  • Whether it's in real life or online?

  • Give us your thinking

  • and as you're thinking, then we'll start writing.

  • - [Amanda] I didn't really think about the brand.

  • - What do you want to stand for?

  • - [Amanda] I would personally like to stand

  • for being there for the customer.

  • I hate to say this

  • but I don't always think the customer's right

  • but I want them to have a good shopping experience.

  • This is a lot of money, 200, 500 dollars

  • could mean the world to somebody

  • and I want them to know that we appreciate them

  • spending their hard earned money at our store on us.

  • We want to give them a great experience,

  • we want them to not leave and be pissed off.

  • Some people are just unreasonable

  • so you can't help everybody

  • but helping a majority of our customers

  • get what they need

  • and not have to go to Amazon to buy sheets

  • and not having to go to Walmart to get pillows.

  • I want to be the all in one.

  • - So what I'm hearing is customer care,

  • being there for customer was the first thing that you said.

  • It seems like it's in your heart.

  • So care.

  • Then, value for money

  • but this is a shopping experience was another one.

  • Selection, so good.

  • Excellent.

  • Talk to us about your current customer experience

  • because that's what we've been hearing a lot about.

  • - [Amanda] It's pretty good right now.

  • My assistant, she's chatty Kathy--

  • - Let's pause.

  • Take us through a customer experience

  • when she walks into your store.

  • What happens?

  • - [Amanda] They get greeted at the door.

  • - You have a person standing there?

  • - [Amanda] We try to.

  • - [Male] Gotta always make sure

  • somebody is right there--

  • - How many people do you have on the floor?

  • - Try and have four to five.

  • One just quit so...

  • - Well and this is sort of a part

  • that I've been waiting on

  • because this is the shittiest thing we have.

  • Panama City being too small,

  • there's a lot of drug addicts.

  • Educated people down there,

  • they're very minimal.

  • To find somebody who even wants

  • to get off their ass and--

  • - Hustle.

  • - And show up to work is hard to find

  • much less somebody who's gonna come in there

  • and be what we want them to be,

  • that's gonna put forth the effort

  • or have the visions or the wants

  • and the growth that we want to have.

  • I'm to a place where we have to hire

  • warm bodies in a lot of ways.

  • I wouldn't hire these people in a million years.

  • - Five or 10 years ago.

  • - But just to what you said,

  • where somebody's greeting people--

  • - We had a very similar situation with Wine Library.

  • We did something that came unnatural to us.

  • We went to the sphere a little bit further.

  • Paid a little bit more,

  • we recruited a little bit different,

  • we went to some colleges further out of our realm.

  • We now have more employees,

  • we used to have our employees

  • travel within 15 minutes.

  • We now have plenty of people commuting 40 minutes.

  • We're paying a little bit more

  • to subsidize that travel cost

  • but it really worked for us.

  • I would really look at,

  • whether it's community colleges or other things,

  • it's gonna cost you more money

  • but the delta's better,

  • how much would that kind of person,

  • what would you pay them, minimum wage?

  • What's that entry level?

  • - We're more $10, $12 but

  • and then what you've said,

  • I mean Amanda and I talked about it

  • and we've stepped that game up.

  • - I would highly recommend

  • going further out

  • and going 14, you're just gonna win.

  • - [Male] And there's no commission tied to their salary,

  • just salary?

  • - Well, they get mattress spiffs and warranty spiffs

  • and different things like that.

  • They can make up to $100 on one mattress.

  • - Really?

  • I want to go sell a mattress.

  • I'm like, really, 100 bucks?

  • - We should do it on a weekend.

  • - Yeah, we should.

  • - Where that disconnect comes

  • because you've got the quality

  • of a 10 or 12 dollar an hour person here

  • even though you're dangling that $100 carrot,

  • they can't attain

  • that $100 carrot. - Makes sense, makes sense.

  • I think it's about kissing more frogs.

  • It worked for us.

  • I was like, "Brandon, we just need to hire way more."

  • Brandon like you, he's been in our business for 20 years.

  • I don't know how long you've been in it,

  • but you get caught in your old habits.

  • It's very hard at retail

  • not to think about what you used to get for 8.50 an hour.

  • I know what you're going through.

  • This is why this works for me.

  • This is why I can give this advice.

  • It worked.

  • We went to 14, we went further out of our circle,

  • ton of people suck shit still

  • but we got over the course of a year,

  • 71 people in, 70 people in

  • and four were phenomenal

  • and now they're a foundation

  • and we're gonna get two, three, four years out of them.

  • - Yeah.

  • And I think coming out of the Mr. Lindsey era,

  • that was a lot of what it was.

  • Jim, that old school way, my God,

  • I'm giving people $10 an hour.

  • - Fuck you.

  • - Dedicate your life to me.

  • - [Amanda] Yeah basically.

  • - They're not gonna do it.

  • - My dad literally paid people 5.50 an hour

  • back in the day when I started

  • and thought they should treat it

  • like it was their own store.

  • - Including you.

  • - Two for me.

  • I was under the table.

  • - He was feeding you two.

  • - I was two bucks.

  • I was supposed to pay him.

  • Dude, honestly, I swear to God that's a great idea.

  • I think everything,

  • I would basically look at the area

  • and try to figure out what's underserved.

  • Is there one coffee shop too little?

  • Is there one gym too little?

  • Is there one soul cycle type of bicycle?

  • Is there no coworking space?

  • To me, all of it's interesting.

  • I just know for a fact

  • that when you have that kind of an asset

  • of 85,000 square feet,

  • there's more you can do,

  • what we're not talking about yet

  • is our ability to help you

  • once you hire somebody to run Facebook ads.

  • They're the best local ads you could ever imagine.

  • All the things that Mr. Lindsey did

  • with direct mail and coupons or whatever the fuck he did

  • to build up the business 30, 40 years ago,

  • that I did as well, it works, it just works.

  • But when you have something to say, it's better.

  • Targeting people that live within a 20 mile radius

  • that are into

  • cross fit that you now have a free gym

  • in the middle of your store is a conversation.

  • So I think that's right, Sabir.

  • I think to me, what I try to get out of my time here

  • is the most macro

  • and we're gonna be together again

  • but to me, between now and the time we get to see you again,

  • I want the framework that I see you guys taking notes,

  • I want to know what we're doing with dot-com.

  • It's the brain.

  • Can't be a person without a brain.

  • I want to know how you're thinking

  • about the physical location to do something else with it.

  • I want to know how you're thinking

  • about the private label

  • and I want to know,

  • those to me are the three

  • and then the next tier gets in

  • to making sure we get data from everybody,

  • the strategy around hiring a little bit further out.

  • That's your business.

  • But the food truck thing would fucking work.

  • - [Amanda] Right.

  • We have one guy, prime rib,

  • and we asked him and he's like, "I can't."

  • I don't know why he can't put it in his schedule.

  • He must have too many spots or something.

  • - I respect that.

  • - So I want to keep--

  • - Is your parking lot busy on the weekends?

  • - Yeah.

  • - Like for the center?

  • - I think that's really gonna improve.

  • It's an older shopping center.

  • They're putting in some kind of electric go cart track

  • and actually in our old building,

  • we're still in the same shopping center

  • that the old location that the lease was in.

  • There's a Dollar General there.

  • The only problem is

  • we're on the far end of that shopping center.

  • - Like what I was telling you,

  • people are like, "Where are you?

  • "We're in the parking lot."

  • - You'll never believe this.

  • My dad's liquor store, his first one

  • was in Clark, New Jersey.

  • The whole shopping center was over here.

  • You'd come from the road here

  • and all the stores are here

  • and my dad's liquor store was here free standing.

  • - That's kind of like how our building.

  • - In the same shopping center.

  • So I get it man, fuck, I get it

  • and my store Wine Library was free standing

  • and all the stores I competed against

  • would have a Whole Foods in the shopping,

  • I'd always be pissed,

  • I'd be like, "Fuck, those suckers suck.

  • "They get all this by accident business.

  • "Every customer I have, I'm earning."

  • - Well then they built the Hathaway Bridge

  • that comes like say the store sets here,

  • the bridge comes up and goes this way.

  • So it's even worse

  • 'cause we're down here in this corner.

  • So if you're heading west--

  • - You don't even see it.

  • - There's really no way to turn in there

  • unless you turn at the light up here,

  • that'll get you in the shopping center.

  • Otherwise, you have to go down, turn around,

  • come back up to it. - We have signage,

  • people steal, yeah, they just steal.

  • - Are you advertising?

  • - [Amanda] Mmhmm.

  • - Where and how?

  • - [Amanda] Facebook and then in that goes to Instagram.

  • Texting program, commercials on TV,

  • commercials on the radio.

  • - 19 billboards. - You do something

  • with Yelp too?

  • - [Amanda] Yeah I was.

  • I stopped that.

  • - Stopped what?

  • - Yelp.

  • - [Amanda] Yeah so I wanted to try different things.

  • So I quit Yelp.

  • - 19 billboards, that's great

  • like old deals, you got some good locked in deals?

  • - I like outdoor when it's priced right.

  • - Well, and the little jingle and the whole nine yards

  • that's been around these six years,

  • little kids sing this stuff.

  • - You have a jingle?

  • - We hear people say that--

  • - What's the jingle, can I hear it?

  • You guys heard it? - They'll say,

  • "I don't know about Lindsey's furniture."

  • The next guy beside him'll be like,

  • "You're an idiot.

  • "You must not watch TV, listen to the radio

  • "or drive down the road.

  • "So how can you not know about Lindsey's furniture?"

  • - You might not be in the consideration set of buying,

  • I don't know any furniture store.

  • I don't even know a name of a furniture store.

  • - Bob's Discount Furniture is the only one I know.

  • - Bob's Discount.

  • Like I have never bought furniture.

  • - Raymour and Flanigan.

  • - I know that one.

  • - How about Ashley?

  • - I've never heard of Ashley's.

  • I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

  • - [Male] IKEA.

  • - IKEA I know,

  • I've heard of it. - Used to be Levitz.

  • - Those I know, I remember those.

  • - And I think a lot of these players are also good regional.

  • Now you're getting newer furniture stores

  • like Wayfair that does--

  • - Yeah, Wayfair's a problem 'cause they're the, of course.

  • - I made a lot of money on the stock.

  • It has gone up like this.

  • - Great, you're winning, they're losing.

  • Way to--

  • - [Male] Any sort of attribution modeling

  • to be people who are looking at your media

  • being able to figure out the effectiveness of that media?

  • - Absolutely not.

  • No way because they don't have the data on their part.

  • They're not collecting that data.

  • Even when you can, it gets hard.

  • - With Facebook, can they come with a Groupon

  • or something to the store

  • and you give them $10 off of this sofa

  • or $100 off a sofa? - What do you got

  • running right now, 20% off?

  • - Is it a coupon or is it a verbal?

  • - [Male] Text 7979--

  • - But again, you're not collecting the data at the register

  • so you're not sure.

  • You're getting the transactional benefit

  • but not the-- - Right.

  • - But your thing was you're giving them that 10% discount.

  • So if you look back at that handwritten invoice,

  • you would see that it was 10% discounted.

  • - [Amanda] Right, right.

  • And in March, we did a scratch off

  • for Saint Patrick's Day. - I love you.

  • I love that shit.

  • I'm telling you, that's the shit I do.

  • I believe in that shit.

  • - [Amanda] So there's just one weekend

  • where the files have all those in 'em

  • and pretty much everybody used it.

  • I saw a couple in the trash

  • but I think most people use them right there.

  • - How did they get the scratch off?

  • - [Amanda] When they walked in the door.

  • - You gave a scratch off

  • and they scratched off and it would say 10, 15, 20% off?

  • - [Amanda] Yeah, 10% off, 20% off, free delivery

  • and then we had a $1,500 shopping spree.

  • - Somebody won it?

  • - [Amanda] Yeah.

  • - Did they lose their shit?

  • - [Amanda] Yeah.

  • - We kind of gave it to somebody

  • we wanted to give it too.

  • (laughing)

  • There was actually four or five of 'em in there but we--

  • - We only gave out one.

  • - It was not Teresa, right?

  • - [Amanda] Not Teresa.

  • - Once again, I think they own five condos down there.

  • I just called Jill and said, "Jill--"

  • - I would send Teresa to fucking,

  • I would send her to Napa.

  • - I can't send Teresa anywhere,

  • she's my assistant.

  • So we built a second office

  • within the store just for a checkout window

  • and he goes, "Are you putting her in there?"

  • I said, "Hell no."

  • I said, "When I need somebody to yell at,

  • "I need her right there."

  • She's like my Google Assistant.

  • - I get it.

  • - I'm like, "Teresa, remember this."

  • - Your new name is Alexa.

  • - Okay, couple of other questions.

  • So growth might be limited by our geographic location.

  • So we need to understand what's happening

  • with demographics. - Is that 100% true?

  • - No, no, I didn't say that this is,

  • I didn't say that this is,

  • I'm saying that this is an avenue that we have to explore

  • to understand what is our geographic limitation,

  • who's our competition and your ambition?

  • How far do you want to go?

  • 10, 15 years down the road.

  • - That's exactly right, Dennis.

  • - Who do you want to be?

  • - [Male] The biggest baddest

  • furniture store known. - A top 100.

  • - Top 100 in the country?

  • Okay good.

  • Because that will calibrate our approach.

  • - I think that that needs to be debated for a second

  • 'cause I think it's the right answer from entrepreneurs

  • but I think we actually should talk about it for a second

  • 'cause this is where I think I can help.

  • That's super arbitrary.

  • 100's a good number, I get it.

  • I actually think you need to ask yourself,

  • here is why VaynerMedia and Wine Library really, really won,

  • 'cause I didn't need any money.

  • And I don't mean it's because I already had money.

  • It's 'cause I don't need any money.

  • How much profit is the business making?

  • And obviously you're running your lifestyle through it,

  • you're paying yourself to be able to,

  • the profit that it makes at the end of the year,

  • you're kind of rolling back in the business

  • or are you taking that out for whatever's?

  • - Back in the business.

  • - Right.

  • So your lifestyle's predicated on the salaries

  • you guys have created right?

  • - Right.

  • - But you're also paying off,

  • you've also purchased a really good asset.

  • - Right.

  • - Right, you're paying off that mortgage through that,

  • that's dragging into your profit, right?

  • - From her end, it's paid for.

  • - 165 a year, that's what you get?

  • - This is literally my fucking dad's business.

  • - 165K a year?

  • - Literally.

  • - It's sort of like 140's the ballpark,

  • it's not in the bank but it's in the warehouse.

  • - By geography because of physical limits.

  • - No ABC but like the world coming down Earth road

  • on dot-com.

  • That's one good thing about the liquor business

  • is it's regulated.

  • So there is no Wayfair,

  • there's no liquor leader

  • 'cause it's fucking fragmentation at scale

  • protected by laws.

  • I think one thing that I think you should really think about

  • with each other since you're really partners in crime,

  • I would highly recommend mapping out

  • how much money you want to take home

  • over the next 20 years.

  • I'm not kidding.

  • Number by number.

  • By the way, I don't care if it goes down.

  • I know nothing about you.

  • I'm making less money than I have

  • because I have a vision

  • and everyone's allowed to do whatever they want.

  • It would really, really, really help

  • because the number one thing that you have to do

  • to win, in my opinion,

  • is to invest every dollar properly

  • to maximize your growth.

  • The more dollars you have,

  • the more you can invest.

  • It's the scrutiny of your expenses

  • and what you're doing on the advertising front

  • and then into what, to me it's very simple,

  • create containers,

  • that's back to dot-com,

  • something in store, private label,

  • those are the containers

  • and then what do you spend money on

  • to make those containers successful.

  • Got it?

  • And so what's a very unique thing

  • and I'm saying this more for the team

  • get them in the right place,

  • VaynerMedia was built very uniquely.

  • There haven't been many people

  • that have come into the advertising space

  • that really saw an opportunity

  • to leverage their personal brand

  • as a gateway branding mechanism

  • to a large fortune 500 consumer set

  • and then converted.

  • So when we look at our PNL,

  • my team is an expensive line item.

  • It's not the kind of thing

  • that other companies have

  • but they have a new business team that has.

  • But I knew what containers I had,

  • what I was trying to accomplish

  • and then I started spending against those containers.

  • Building a dot-com,

  • right now with that little of margin

  • and me assuming back to the family business,

  • I understand the size here,

  • it's not like you guys are rolling in it

  • and buying mansions and Porsches.

  • Well, guess what?

  • A new POS system,

  • hiring a full time dot-com person,

  • the capital expenses of doing something new

  • inside the store

  • that might cost renovations.

  • I'm not so sold that you have the cash flow

  • for all of that.

  • And so then I'd say to myself,

  • okay, what are they spending money on for advertising?

  • I believe some of it is way less valuable than you think

  • because you can't measure it right now.

  • So you might feel 19 billboards are awesome

  • and they might not be or they might be.

  • Maybe it's actually 29 and no commercials.

  • Maybe it's just commercials.

  • How much are you spending on marketing?

  • - 350.

  • - A year? - Yeah.

  • So it's roughly 34,000 I think it was, 35,000 a month.

  • - And what's that broken down to?

  • - It's 25% digital,

  • 25% TV and out of home I think it was 16%, yeah.

  • - What do you think's working the best

  • and what do you think is working the worst

  • out of your advertising

  • if you just had to guess?

  • - [Dennis] Radio, Pandora, 14, television, 24, digital, 24,

  • billboards, 32. - Why are we doing Pandora?

  • - [Amanda] I did it at the end of '16, beginning of '17.

  • - Is it targeted local?

  • - [Amanda] It was, yeah.

  • - And was it working?

  • - [Amanda] No, so I stopped.

  • - Okay.

  • - [Male] And I sort of--

  • - I love that you test shit,

  • it's so smart, 100%, forever.

  • - [Amanda] And I get a little scared

  • because we do so much, that I'm like,

  • shit, I don't want to drop this

  • 'cause what if that was working

  • and it takes three more months to get it back?

  • - Here's what I would tell you.

  • I'm convinced that your 34 can be 15,

  • do exactly what it's doing, I just don't know how yet.

  • And then all of a sudden, that 20 becomes 240

  • and that 240 pays for a POS,

  • it pays for 49 year old young Sabir

  • who can actually be there day in and day out.

  • He's growing hair back, I'm pretty impressed.

  • - I need to shave it off once it gets warmer.

  • I look like Dr. Evil when I shave my head off.

  • - I think that's where you have to look at a little bit.

  • I think it's gonna cost you a little bit more for staff

  • if you go down my route and go 14, 15 outside

  • but I think you'll get that back.

  • 15, 14 guys and gals

  • do a care a little bit more about that 100 to your point

  • which means you're selling an extra mattress.

  • You're not giving them 100 for kicks and giggles,

  • it matters for your business.

  • - I think still going back to the ambition

  • because even financing might be an option.

  • If there vision is there,

  • if the mechanics are there too.

  • So it's not necessarily financing tomorrow,

  • it might be three years down the road

  • when we have the brand,

  • when we have all of those private label running,

  • then all of a sudden, you're ready.

  • - Look, I think that's probably right.

  • I think what we need to do here as a team

  • is figure out if that's truly three years from now,

  • let's say, arbitrarily.

  • I don't have a whole lot of energy

  • to get too overly worried about that right now

  • 'cause it's further away.

  • To me it's just,

  • the 34K a month in marketing is awfully interesting

  • because when you have a legendary business

  • that's been in the same general location

  • for how many years?

  • - [Amanda] Six.

  • - But you've been in the same shopping center for?

  • - Six.

  • We were like, it was in the middle of the shopping center

  • and then up until '16, we were down at the end.

  • - But you're still in that same shopping center.

  • And how long, six you said?

  • - Yeah, six years.

  • - And before that, where was it?

  • - We started six years ago.

  • - [Male] That was when--

  • - The Legacy brand was for 25 years

  • in a few locations.

  • - I totally understand.

  • To me, okay, got it, that is a little bit different.

  • It would be interesting to see,

  • the advertising, that's your biggest expense.

  • Your mortgage, you've got your advertising,

  • you've got your payroll, inventory.

  • Actually, that's a good one,

  • and I know I've got to run in a second

  • but that one helped us quite a bit at Wine Library.

  • Old school thinking is

  • you said it the same way that I think about it

  • and my dad thinks about it, inventory, paid for,

  • it's an asset.

  • - [Male] It evolves.

  • - My next question, inventory on hand

  • and why do you have it? - Yeah.

  • How much inventory are you holding?

  • - [Amanda] A lot.

  • - I know.

  • Let's talk about it.

  • - And that goes back,

  • that comes back from Mr. Lindsey.

  • Amanda and I's big part in this

  • has all really happened over the past year.

  • - I believe it.

  • - The changes and everything--

  • - 'Cause Mr. Lindsey opened that place six years ago,

  • was still in the game pretty seriously.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Understood.

  • And why is he out of the game?

  • Just got older, is he sick, is he okay?

  • - [Amanda] No, he's fine.

  • - He's just fucking tired?

  • He's like fuck it?

  • He's like, I believe you can do it?

  • - [Amanda] Yeah I think so.

  • - Either that or she was gonna kill him,

  • one or the other.

  • - What do you think,

  • finally I found somebody who can do something?

  • And how long have you been in the business?

  • - I've only been in the furniture business three years.

  • - Oh, very interesting.

  • - 21 in beer but furniture's new but I love it.

  • - I get it.

  • - But like we was in High Point last week buying furniture.

  • All the new stuff, you see it, then you get it

  • probably August, September.

  • Jim would go to those markets

  • and he didn't give a damn if he spent $800,000 on oak shit

  • from 1970 that nobody even wants.

  • He just would just go buy, buy, buy, buy.

  • - [Amanda] 'Cause he could buy it for 50 bucks

  • instead of 100.

  • - He loved closeouts

  • and I don't think he ever understood

  • that it was a closeout for a reason.

  • - Well, he believed in his salesmanship.

  • I mean I bought closeouts, I love closeouts

  • because I knew I could sell 'em when nobody else could.

  • He didn't go out of business,

  • he just knew that he would be able,

  • somebody'd come in and want to buy something,

  • he would be like, "Don't buy that, buy this for 55 bucks."

  • - Right.

  • And we're stuck with a ton of that.

  • - Still?

  • - Still. - Still.

  • - Still?

  • - [Amanda] Still.

  • - No, that's great, let's talk about it, how much?

  • No this is, you have to understand,

  • how much, when you come back here,

  • I want to see how much inventory you have

  • that you deem fucked?

  • - Retail or cost?

  • - Cost and retail.

  • - Okay.

  • - How much you think, gut?

  • I know you could be way off.

  • - Honestly 500 to a million.

  • - Old inventory?

  • - Yes. - And it's probably worth--

  • - No, I'm thinking you're building--

  • - Almost 500 retail, probably 15.

  • - Old in the past six years

  • or old in the 25 years?

  • - There's probably shit in there from 2015.

  • If I had to go back and find a price

  • 'cause it's discontinued or a closeout,

  • I would have to go to 2015

  • invoices to get a price. - And Jim would run tent sale

  • after tent sale after tent sale

  • but he would put the same shit in there

  • every single time.

  • So it wasn't effective.

  • - And so the tent sale brand got killed, right?

  • - Well, we changed it last year.

  • - To what?

  • - [Amanda] Our annual sale,

  • we actually put good shit out there

  • that we were able to

  • get at a discount. - Stuff we had bought that--

  • - [Amanda] And it sold

  • and we heard a lot of comments,

  • people would say, "This is the best one you've had."

  • (crosstalk)

  • - [Amanda] Can I talk about something really fast?

  • - Yeah.

  • - [Amanda] Okay so we're talking about serendipity before.

  • So there's this company that I write checks to,

  • a repair company

  • and their address is I don't know,

  • 1202 Gary Avenue, Suite 5.

  • - Suite 5?

  • That is good karma.

  • - [Amanda] I thought about that

  • like two months ago. - You may have to buy that.

  • - Go find that company for me, James, MNA, VaynerX.

  • I'm super pumped right now.

  • You've given me a real light.

  • I'm telling you right now

  • that half a million to a million,

  • and you think that's cost?

  • You're guessing, it's fine.

  • And would it be appropriate to think

  • that you're gonna have to sell that

  • for like 50 cents on the dollar

  • less than the cost? - Some of it.

  • - This is a real opportunity guys.

  • This is where a lot of retail stores lose.

  • They put their head in the sand

  • 'cause they don't want to think about it

  • 'cause they know it's a fucking mess.

  • Meanwhile, it's the place where,

  • you could give it away and change your business.

  • You have to understand, you've given me ammo.

  • - Yeah, there's a bunch of bullets sitting back there

  • ready to be shot.

  • - You can fuel the other three points.

  • - You know how much better your radio campaign will work

  • that says, "We're giving away $10,000 worth of furniture

  • "in the first hour this Saturday."?

  • You've got ammo.

  • You've got two things that I need,

  • this is how I built my dad's business.

  • He had the same fucking problem,

  • this is fucking deja vu.

  • He had ammo and he had advertising or not advertising,

  • it was either advertising that wasn't effective

  • or he had no advertising.

  • Again, you've already

  • probably made a commitment to the radio thing.

  • All you have to do is just change the fucking copy.

  • So you pay another 50, 500 bucks,

  • whatever the fuck the price is for a new read

  • and the read is, "August 7th,

  • "giving away $10,000 worth of sofas,"

  • the next week, "August 14th is Couch Day."

  • - Then we clean up?

  • - Clean up, clean up

  • and you could do a very simple thing.

  • You could price it appropriately and be like,

  • we are doing the buy one, get one free sale.

  • We will have all the get one free products in the front.

  • You buy any product that matches that price,

  • you get an equal value of the free section product.

  • You buy $1,500 couch,

  • you get a $1,500 couch for free 'cause you price it.

  • You know that that couch is really 350

  • but if it was 1,500 at one point,

  • and they're gonna say shit,

  • well that's not 15

  • but still, it's fucking free,

  • still you got already good prices.

  • And all you're doing is you're inducing it

  • to sell more of something else.

  • You have ammo.

  • That is huge.

  • - And that could be the 250K

  • that you can fund everything. - Almost like a scratch off,

  • 20% off, you're getting--

  • - People respond to free, boy.

  • Free gets people going.

  • - Especially where we are.

  • - I get it.

  • - But I'm willing to bet

  • that part of that 500K to a million,

  • not everything is shit.

  • There are pieces in there

  • that you can probably,

  • could be unique. - I'll see you guys soon.

  • - [Amanda] Thank you.

  • - Such a pleasure.

  • How's it going so far, good?

  • - Yeah.

  • - Great, thank you guys.

  • - [Male] Thank you.

  • (upbeat music)

- Hi, guys, I'm Amanda Martin

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