English. I'm Neil.

英文。我是尼爾

And I'm Catherine.

我是凱瑟琳

Catherine, are you tall enough?

凱瑟琳，你覺得你夠高嗎？

Tall enough for what?

夠高的意思是？

Tall enough to be happy with your height.

也就是你對你的身高感到滿意

Er, well, yes, I'm alright with

嗯 ... 是的，我很滿意

my height, I can't do a thing about it

我的身高，無論如何我不能改變它

anyway so, how about you?

那麼你呢？

Well, the same, really. I wouldn't

嗯 ... 說真的我也一樣

mind being slightly taller, I suppose, which

我想我應該不介意再高一點

is appropriate as today's

這很適合今天的

topic is about heightism.

主題關於「身高歧視」

Heightism. Now, you may not

「身高歧視」你可能之前沒有

have heard of heightism before, but it's

聽過這個詞，但它

like other 'isms' - like racism, sexism,

就像是其他有 "isms" (歧視的意思) 的單字 - 像是種族歧視、性別歧視、

ageism and other 'isms' that highlight a

年齡歧視或其他

particular kind of

特別強調

discrimination or unequal treatment that

人們經歷的

people experience.

歧視或是不平等對待

But before we find out more about

但是在我們了解更多之前

this topic, our quiz question for today.

我們今天有個小考題

The tallest person ever proven to live was

被證實最高的人是

Robert Wadlow from the USA. How tall

來自美國的羅伯特‧瓦德羅

was he? Was he: a) 2.71m; b) 2.72m or

他多高？ 他是 a) 2.71 公尺；b) 2.72 公尺 還是

c) 2.73m? What do you think, Catherine?

c) 2.73 公尺？凱瑟琳，你覺得呢？

Wow, that's really, really tall!

哇，那真的非常高！

I'm going to guess 2.71m.

我猜是 2.71 公尺

Well, listen out for the answer at the

在節目結束時會公布答案

end of the programme. Tanya S Osensky

Tanya S Osensky

is an attorney and author of the book

是個律師也是這本

'Shortchanged' about her own

《欺騙》的作者，這是關於她

experiences of heightism.

對身高歧視的經驗

Clever title. To short-change

很棒的書名。欺騙

someone is to not give them what they

某些人，就是不給他們

are entitled to, what they deserve.

應有或是應得的東西

And originally this phrase comes from

這個片語原本的意思是

paying for something and

付錢買東西卻

not getting the right money back. So if I

少找零錢回來。所以如果我

buy something for £6 and I pay with a £10

買了六英鎊的東西，然後我付十英鎊

note and the shopkeeper only gives me

店員只找我

£3 back, I've been short-changed - it

三英鎊的零錢，他少找零頭給我 -

means I've been cheated. And in the

也就是說我被騙了。在這個

context of facing discrimination because

面對歧視的環境下，因為

you're not tall, 'Shortchanged'

你不高，「少找錢」 (shortchanged，short 一詞意為「矮」)

is a really good pun.

是一個很棒的雙關語

Tanya spoke about her book on the

Tanya 在 BBC 廣播節目《自由思考》

BBC radio programme Thinking Allowed.

談論她的書

She talks first about our general

她首先談論

feelings about height. What does she say

我們對身高的感覺。她說

people never wish for?

人們從不會希望什麼？

Everybody that I've

每個和我說話

spoken to who is tall relishes their height.

且身高高的人都滿意他們的身高

I have not met anybody who said they

我還沒見過有誰說

would wish they were shorter and people

他們希望自己矮一點，而且

generally tend to even embellish what

一般來說人們都試圖修飾

their height is when you

他們的身高，當你

ask them what it is.

問他們多高的時候

So what is it she says

所以她說

no one wishes for?

沒有人希望什麼？

Well, she says no one wishes

嗯 ... 她說沒有人希望

they were shorter!

自己長矮一點！

And that's right. She said that tall

沒錯。她說高的人

people relish their height. This means

都滿意自己的身高。意思是

they enjoy being tall, they get

他們享受自己是高的，而且

great satisfaction from it.

他們對此感到滿足

And another point she makes

另外她還說到一點是

is that many people embellish their

當被問到時，許多人會修飾

height, if asked. This means they say

他們的身高。意思是他們

they are taller than they actually are. Now,

把身高說得比實際再高一點。現在，

to embellish a fact means to

修飾一個事實的意思是

exaggerate it to make it seem

誇大它使其看起來

bigger, faster, better and so on.

較大、較快、較好等等

Here's Tanya S Osensky again.

再一次回顧 Tanya S Osensky 的談論

Everybody that I've

每個和我說話

spoken to who is tall relishes their height.

且身高高的人都滿意他們的身高

I have not met anybody who said

我還沒見過有誰說

they would wish they were shorter and

他們希望自己矮一點，而且

people generally tend to even embellish

一般來說，當被問到的時候

what their height is when you

人們都試圖修飾

ask them what it is.

自己的身高

She goes on to explain how some

她繼續解釋一些

research has shown that shorter people

研究是如何顯示出較矮的人

are less likely to get jobs, less likely to get

得到工作的機會較少、較難獲得升遷、

promoted and less likely to earn as much

賺的錢也較少

as taller people. What is the financial

她提到

difference she mentions? She talks about

財務差異？她說到了

the premium per inch. An inch is about

每英吋的獎金。一英吋大約

2.5cm and the premium is a word which

2.5 公分，然後獎金的意思是

means the extra benefit,

額外的福利

the extra advantage.

額外的優勢

Here's Tanya S Osensky again.

再一次回到 Tanya S Osensky

One set of data showed

有個數據顯示

that the premium for height is over $2000

以男生而言，因為身高而給的獎金美英吋超過 2000 英鎊

per inch for men and $1000 per inch

而女生則是每英吋 1000 英鎊

for women and over time that disparity

隨著時間流逝，這個差異

grows significantly so it ends up being

成長的非常快速

a huge chunk of someone's

某人在職涯中的

paycheck over their career.

一大筆薪水

She says that taller men earn

她說較高的男人可以賺取

$2000 an inch.

每英吋 2000 英鎊

For women it's a bit less, but still

而女人比較少一點，但是數字依然

significant at $1000 an inch.

很可觀，每英吋 1000 英鎊

And this disparity - or

然後這個差距或是

difference - between the salaries of taller

差異，在較高的人

and shorter people, is an example

和較矮的人薪水的差異就是

of heightism. Shorter people, she says,

身高歧視的例子。她說較矮的人

are getting fewer jobs and

得到工作的機會較少

fewer benefits because they are short.

福利也較少，因為他們比較矮

Well, one person who certainly

嗯 ... 有一個人

wasn't short was the subject of today's

非常高且是我們今天的

quiz question. The tallest person who

考題。世上最高的人

has lived, Robert Wadlow. We asked how

羅伯特‧瓦德羅。我們問到

tall he was, was it: a) 2.71m;

他多高？ 他是 a) 2.71 公尺；b) 2.72 公尺 還是

b) 2.72m or c) 2.73m?

b) 2.72 公尺 還是 c) 2.73 公尺？

What did you say, Catherine?

凱瑟琳，你覺得呢？

I said 2.71m.

我猜 2.71 公尺

Well, you were almost there. The

你差一點就答對了

correct answer was b) 2.72m.

正確答案是 b) 2.72 公尺

Congratulations if you got that right.

如果你答對了，恭喜你

Now Catherine, much as I relish

凱瑟琳，我很享受

being in the studio with you, we must

與你一起在錄音室錄音

wrap up the programme now with

但我們現在必須結束這個節目

a review of today's vocabulary.

然後複習一下今天的單字

Well, relish was one of those

"享受" 是其中一個單字

words. If you relish something you really

如果你 "享受" 於某事代表你很

enjoy it - so thanks you for that, Neil.

喜歡做某事，謝謝你這麼說，尼爾

You're welcome! This programme

不客氣！這次節目

was about a kind of discrimination.

談論有關 "歧視議題"

This means the unfair or unequal

意思是不公平或是不平等地

treatment of people because of,

對待某些人

for example, their race, religion, colour,

例如因為他們的種族、宗教、膚色、

age or indeed height.

年齡或是實際身高

And discrimination because of

然後因為身高

someone's height is called heightism.

歧視某人，我們稱為 "身高歧視"

Something which many of us do is

有時我們許多人會

embellish our height - we say we are taller

"修飾" 自己的身高，我們會宣稱

than we actually are.

比自己實際身高更高

A premium is an extra benefit

獎金就是得到額外的福利

or advantage that can be gained, in this

或是優勢，在這個狀況下

case, by being taller. And finally

較高的人可以得到額外的利益，最後

we had disparity, another word for

"差距"，換句話說就是

difference. There is a disparity

"差異"。同事之間有差距，

between salaries of tall people and

較高的人薪水和

their shorter colleagues.

較矮的人薪水有所差距

And that is 6 Minute English for

這是今天的六分鐘英文

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