getting saved and baptized and being perfected to carry out the God-ordained way.

We were in Irving, Texas, for many years and both of us had full-time jobs with two children.

Through the fellowship, we opened to the Lord. My wife and I fellowshipped a lot; we prayed,

and eventually we opened to the brothers and we said, Brothers, we feel that it might be good if we move

We just said, We’re open to move to any city but we feel good we could go to Cardiff.

I wasn’t actually in the church life before I was a student.

I spent two years at a bible school and I moved to Cardiff to start my studies and hopefully

I thought I’d like to serve the Lord a little bit.

And the Lord was so merciful to me because the Lord arranged that He’d send two families, one from New Zealand and one from America to Cardiff

one week before I arrived.

First time we mentioned to our kids, they both just cried as if it was the end of the world.

I thought they were crazy, no, we can’t move to the UK. It’s so far away.

I just didn’t want to leave my friends. I was like the opposer of the family.

It took a while to get Daniel and Ruth, Daniel especially, into a good school.

He was on the waiting list for a long time and it was hard work and eventually we got him in

but then there’s this call for a lot of the saints from London to move to 12 cities in UK

and I was totally not keen at all.

But you know there’s the ministry and the ministry is really rich.

So in the Memorial Day Conference in 2009 there was a sharing about how Christ is the true vine

and He’s the universal vine tree and He needs to spread

and He needs to propagate Himself.

Even though it wasn’t that easy of a time for them,

I noticed that after a while when we started contacting these students

and students started coming into the church life,

I noticed the kids were really enjoying these students and were very encouraged by seeing the fruits.

They were very much a part of this migration. They became our co-laborers in shepherding

the new ones, caring for the new ones.

I think seeing fruits coming into the church life is a great encouragement for all of us,

including the children.

I think it’s a real top enjoyment when you have corporate fruit-bearing. A lot of prayer,

a lot of fellowship, a lot of enjoyment together and then something just comes out spontaneously.

I’ve had a very enjoyable experience. Although I haven’t migrated myself,

I’m a fruit of the migration of the saints.

I was just looking back that if we didn’t move here, where would those students go?

Where can they meet?

I feel like I’m eternally indebted to the Lord and to the two families that migrated

to Cardiff because I think I really would have been lost and I don’t think I would

have stayed very long in my relationship with the Lord had I not contacted the saints and

had the saints not contacted me. So I really feel like the Lord has saved me and I feel

really indebted that I really should give my life to the Lord now because of what other

people had paid the price for me to enjoy.

To me, the greatest enjoyment, the greatest highlight, is seeing young people that just

love the ministry, love the truth and their lives completely changed because they are

being constituted with the Lord and with the experiences of life.

I’ve never been to Europe until I migrated to Europe.

Many people would ask me, How can you do that?

I would say that when you are in love with someone, you would do things you cannot describe.

Witness Lee once said that if you are used by the Lord as His stepping stone for His

move once, you’ll never forget it. I would never forget my move to Cardiff.

We moved four times within three years as a family.

Humanly speaking it doesn’t sound easy but every step of the way the grace is there.

The Lord had always prepared someone there for my children as well to be their spiritual companion and shepherd.

We just need to give everything to the Lord and to say, Lord, be my consecration.

I just think sometimes we give up all the material things, we give up our situation,

and sometimes you might feel, well I don’t have a home every more, actually the Lord is our dwelling place.

I just really felt the Lord speaking this to me, the Lord is our real home, our real dwelling place.

So it’s better to migrate, it’s better to lose a few things but really gain the Lord.