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  • [Steve] Pornography has always been around, but now it's a widespread crisis. Counselors

  • warn that this addiction has become an epidemic

  • Why? Pornography is just a click away.

  • This is no longer someone else's problem. Pornography has invaded the hearts and homes

  • of your family, your friends--even your church. Odds are you know someone who has a secret

  • sex addiction. Maybe it's you?

  • On this special edition of Beyond Today, we'll talk with a Licensed Professional Clinical

  • Counselor and discuss: "How to Stop a Porn Addiction."

  • [Announcer] Join our host, Steve Myers and his guests, as they help you understand your

  • future on Beyond Today!

  • [Steve] Today's program is about sexual purity. Because we're speaking candidly about how

  • pornography affects people's hearts and minds, it may be inappropriate for younger viewers

  • and those sensitive to this issue.

  • However, I encourage you to stay tuned. This can be an uncomfortable topic that we Christians

  • don't address as much as we should, but it does affect so many people--and not just the

  • lives of those looking at porn.

  • Pornography addicts come from all walks of life. They're blue collar workers and white

  • collar executives. They're teens and they're old. They're single. They're married. Men

  • and women. They're Christian and atheist. There's no discrimination. Porn addicts are

  • of any and every race.

  • Why so many? There's an increase in pornography use because it's available everywhere!

  • Pornography is on everything: apps for smart phones; computer tablets and don't forget

  • Internet television. A recent University of Sydney study verifies an upsurge in porn use

  • because new technologies are exploding access.

  • If you or someone you know has been taken in by this plague, please realize--it doesn't

  • have to be this way--there is hope. I spoke with a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor

  • who has a PhD. in Psychology--Dr. Roy Fouch. He is also Director of Mental Health at the

  • Hamilton, Ohio County Justice Center and has a private practice as a Christian counselor.

  • And I also talked with two individuals who are breaking free of their porn addiction

  • and have found hope.

  • I began by asking Dr. Fouch about the effect of pornography.

  • [Steve] Does pornography really impact our brain?

  • [Dr. Fouch] Oh it does, in tremendous ways, in much the same way that a drug does. We

  • have this area of the brain called the limbic system which is responsible for pleasure and

  • reward. What happens is these chemicals called neurotransmitters that are in the brain, are

  • activated by drugs, by love, by sexual stimulation.

  • And so, those chemicals called neurotransmitters, one of them is dopamine, and there is serotonin

  • and norepinephrine, these chemicals work together to allow that person to experience pleasure,

  • and then they use that to deal with some of these negative emotions that they may have.

  • Even things like loneliness or low self-esteem, anger, depression, anxiety. All these things

  • become less when the brain is activated in that way.

  • And so therefore the brain keeps wanting more and more, and it needs more and more, because

  • these receptor sites where these neurotransmitters operate, they increase in numbers. That's

  • why when people do certain drugs, they have to keep doing more and more of the same drug.

  • Well, it's the same thing with pornography or any kind of sexual stimulation, the brain

  • begins to need more and more of it, in order to get the same affect.

  • > It gave me a false sense of reality. It was like I couldn't take the pornography off

  • of my mind. I couldn't wait to get off work, to go try to put a DVD in, or get on the internet

  • to look at pornography.

  • [Dr. Fouch] That's one aspect, but then you have other chemicals in the brain that may

  • have more to do with the thought process. So now you start coupling the cognitive part

  • with the other, which is chemically driven too, and all of a sudden the mind, and the

  • thought process, and the addictive process, get coupled together. And so, it becomes a

  • very powerful process.

  • > At the end, once it was finished, I would feel bad then go back and watch more.

  • [Dr. Fouch] You build up almost like a tolerance to it. So, what it was doing for you before,

  • it's no longer doing. So now you have to go to something a little bit more powerful, and

  • then that process can continue until people start acting out.

  • Then, of course, what happens too, you couple this with masturbation, orgasm and things

  • like that, and that is a powerful reinforcer to any behavior. And then it becomes very,

  • very difficult to stop that.

  • >> There was nothing. There was that moment of pleasure that would come from that; that

  • left me more empty than when I even started. I would feel better for that millisecond and

  • then I would feel more empty than I had when the process had begun.

  • [Dr. Fouch] Acting out, of course the masturbation is a form of acting out, but also using phone

  • lines where you can get phone sex, or escorts, or call girls or prostitutes. We can go down

  • that road as well.

  • > At the moment it was, is when I was caught up in my selfishness, cause I would watch

  • pornography, masturbate to the pornography, and would not have sex with my wife. That

  • was sickening. You know it was a sickness.

  • [Dr. Fouch] Yeah, it becomes obsessive and compulsive. It becomes almost like an obsessive

  • compulsive disorder. You obsess about it. You have a compulsive behavior. You do it

  • under certain circumstances, and it provides you with relief pleasure, or what have you,

  • and then you continue to do that

  • There have been some studies that have shown that most sexual addicts, 90% of men started

  • off by viewing pornography, 70% of the women started off by viewing pornography. So it

  • becomes almost like a, what we talk about a gateway drug. It's very similar.

  • Some people become so obsessed with it, that they might even start viewing some sites at

  • work. You know, using work computers, and that sort of thing.

  • [Steve] People have a tendency to minimize the idea, that porn is really that big of

  • a problem. I've heard men, even some women say, well, it's not that big a deal; everybody

  • does it; and it's not as serious as some would say. How would you answer someone that would

  • say, you know, porn really isn't that big of an issue?

  • [Dr. Fouch] Well, I would answer by saying, it is a big issue.

  • >> Just bypass and thought it was normal actions. Oh, I'm a man. And this is just what guys;

  • this is just the kind of thing that guys do. This is who we are. This is how God made us.

  • You know, that's really not what we were made to do, what we were made to be.

  • [Steve] That's right, it's not what you're made to do. This is a big issue and the stakes

  • are high. Pornography doesn't affect only the user. Porn affects everyone: financially,

  • socially and what many overlook, spiritually.

  • We know that some of you are struggling to break free from pornography.

  • On every Beyond Today program we offer a free Bible study aid to help you with the challenges

  • that life brings, and guide you to the hope that is found in your Bible.

  • This time, I'd like to offer you something brand new--Overcoming Pornography Addiction.

  • Go to BeyondToday.tv where you can read it or download it immediately.

  • If you or someone you know wrestles with this problem, this free study guide is a good place

  • to begin.

  • We've never offered this study aid before, and only have a limited number of printed

  • copies. So once we run out, Overcoming Pornography Addiction will only be available as an electronic

  • download. But if you request it today, you can have this booklet sent to your home in

  • a discrete envelope, at no cost at all, by calling: 1-888-886-8632.

  • You'll find valuable articles, including several from our guest, Dr. Roy Fouch, and helpful

  • information with biblical guidance. It's time to put the embarrassment and the guilt behind.

  • Overcoming Pornography Addiction will guide you to a deeper study and understanding of

  • how God can help you break free from addiction.

  • Get your free copy now online at BeyondToday.tv, or by calling: 1-888-886-8632.

  • [Steve] We've been having a frank discussion on sexual purity with Licensed Professional

  • Clinical Counselor, Dr. Roy Fouch, as well as with two individuals who are breaking free

  • from pornography addiction.

  • Because we're speaking openly and candidly about how pornography affects people's hearts

  • and minds, it may be inappropriate for our younger viewers and those sensitive to this

  • issue.

  • Even though it's an uncomfortable topic, we're addressing it because it is so widespread

  • and affects so many Christians.

  • Let's pick up my conversation with Dr. Fouch.

  • [Steve] Now how does that impact the way that people begin to look at life then, in general?

  • [Dr. Fouch] Many people get into a process of lying and deception. And that, in some

  • cases, becomes more painful to a spouse than the actual event itself, because it breaks

  • trust. And when you break trust in a marital relationship, all of a sudden you start eroding

  • one of the key foundations to a healthy relationship.

  • You know, the spouse begins to feel that this is more important to you than the relationship.

  • And there is a lot of pain and suffering that goes in a marital relationship, as a result

  • of that. And I've heard many, many women say it feels the same as if he would go out and

  • actually have an affair with someone.

  • > That was something my wife and I talked about. To her, I was having an affair on her,

  • is what I was doing.

  • [Dr. Fouch] So there's multiple reasons why this is such a devastating thing to be doing,

  • not only to oneself, but also to the people that love you. And it gives you such a false

  • sense of what healthy sexuality really is, and sexuality is something that should be

  • reserved for a marital relationship, and there only.

  • > Actually marriage will not take the porn addiction away, it only hinders your marriage.

  • It pushes people away that really love you. You miss out on opportunities of what true

  • love is.

  • >> I would approach sex as a different person. It wasn't; there was no attachment meant for

  • it, towards it, any of that. At the same time, inside I was dying, craving that love, that

  • affection that, you know, its romance you see on television and on the movies. But I

  • just never had that. That's what I wanted.

  • > It gave me a false sense of what love was. Cause the real love that was offered to me,

  • I pushed it away and I gravitated towards porn. That was, it was an idol to me. Porn

  • was my idol. That was like, the only relationship that I had at the time.

  • [Steve] You think it's fair to say you can be your own worst enemy?

  • [Dr. Fouch] Oh absolutely, because our minds contrive and develop reasons to maintain the

  • addictive process. I sometimes refer to this as the lies we tell ourselves. These are the

  • justifications, the well formulated reasons that we give ourselves permission to do what

  • we do.

  • In Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous, they sometimes refer to these things as stinking

  • thinking. They're irrational thoughts that reinforce irrational behavior. The behavior

  • that's irrational is something that's self-destructive to self and to others. But yet, we find ways

  • to give ourselves excuses for doing that.

  • [Steve] Now as a Christian counselor, how do you feel porn affects someone spiritually?

  • [Dr. Fouch] Well because it's sin, and we know that sin has an adverse affect upon the

  • individual, it gives Satan inroads into our spiritual life as long as we're.... It's kind

  • of like, we can't serve two masters and the master of pornography is Satan. Because it

  • is a violation of God's law.

  • It goes contrary to what God teaches us in His word, because it is a form of lust. And

  • Christ told us very specifically what we do in our minds, and this goes beyond just doing

  • it in your minds. This is not just a fantasy, it is acting out a fantasy, it's using props

  • to stimulate that fantasy. And, so there is no form of viewing pornography which is okay

  • in my mind.

  • So, the world is out there. Satan is out there, who by the way, as we know, is the father

  • of lies. Very smart, and so he works with the world's systems and tries to develop ways

  • of thinking about things that more are in line with what he is trying to accomplish,

  • which is to destroy us individually, our marriages, our nation.

  • Now some people will say, "Well me and my wife, or my wife and I, we look at pornography

  • to kind of spice up our sex life." And, I don't think that is okay either.

  • So you're going down a dangerous path if you think that any form of viewing pornography

  • is correct. We could ask Jesus Christ that question and I'm sure He would say absolutely

  • not, and I would agree.

  • [Steve] I'm sure some of our viewers wonder, "Do I need to change now, is it important?" 

  • [Dr. Fouch] I would tell them that today is an important time to change, because the quality

  • of your life will change. You'll have a better life. You'll have a more fulfilling life.

  • You'll have a closer relationship with God. You'll have a better relationship with your

  • spouse, if you happen to be married. And you will have a better perspective on relationships

  • with women, if you're single; or men, if you're single. It won't be based on sexuality, it

  • will be based on relationships.

  • [Steve] Have you seen people overcome?

  • [Dr. Fouch] I've seen lots of people overcome, and overcoming is a process. Overcoming doesn't

  • mean that the day you decide to stop looking at pornography, you'll never look at it again.

  • But yes, with the right determination, with God's help in particular, like Scripture says,

  • all things are possible through Christ who strengthens me. So with Christ's help, and

  • the Father's help, there definitely is hope. And I've seen many people recover completely

  • and have been away from it for years, and years, and years.

  • [Steve] It is possible to overcome. I'd like to help you or your loved one start that process

  • by sending you a copy of Overcoming Pornography Addiction. There's only a limited number available

  • in print. So request your free copy of Overcoming Pornography Addiction by calling us, toll

  • free: 1-888-886-8632.

  • You can also go online to BeyondToday.tv and read or download Overcoming Pornography Addiction.

  • This free study aid will guide you to a deeper study and understanding of how you can break

  • free from addiction.

  • And when you order this study guide, we will also send you a free subscription to The Good

  • News magazine. The Good News will help you make sense of today's crazy world in light

  • of the Bible. Every edition contains articles that will help you walk the Christian lifestyle

  • that Jesus and His disciples' walked. Even the call is free, so call us: 1-888-886-8632.

  • Everyone needs some good news. So get your free subscription to The Good News magazine.

  • It will help you put your life and our changing world into perspective.

  • Is there any doubt that sexual purity is being erased from our society today? That's why

  • we are speaking openly about pornography and its damaging effect on people. Even though

  • this is an uncomfortable topic and maybe inappropriate for younger viewers and those sensitive to

  • this issue, I hope you will stay tuned as we discuss the fact that there is hope! This

  • can be overcome. You can stop a porn addiction.

  • I interviewed Christian counselor, Dr. Roy Fouch, who has a PhD. in Psychology and is

  • a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor, as well as two individuals who have found

  • hope and are breaking free from pornography addiction.

  • What do you think is the most important perspective to begin overcoming, to get some hope back?

  • What is that first step that someone should take?

  • [Dr. Fouch] Well, one of the first steps is admitting that you have a problem. Denial,

  • or minimization of the problem, which is a form of denial. Once you are able to come

  • to grips with the fact that this is a problem, then that's a good first step.

  • >> You know, I never thought of this sexual addiction as a problem, as much as it truly

  • had become in my life. There was that denial. There was that true disconnect from it, like

  • minimizing the situation and things along that nature.

  • > As a man, I always think I can do it myself. I didn't need any help even when it came down

  • to asking for directions. I never wanted to admit when I was lost. But when I finally

  • admitted that I was lost, and that I couldn't do it on my own, is when I was really redeemed

  • [Dr. Fouch] Admitting that you need help is not a bad thing. It doesn't make you weak.

  • It's actually a strength. And one of the first steps is admitting that you are powerless

  • over this particular addiction.

  • > Thirteen years... So, I struggled and fought and ran, and hid and lied for 13 years before

  • I finally came clean with myself.

  • [Steve] If you had to look at the aspect of trying to help someone you love, can a loved

  • one do anything to help?

  • [Dr. Fouch] Well, I think the loved one needs to encourage the person who they have identified

  • as having a problem, whether it be a spouse or whether it be a friend, to get help. You

  • know, and to talk to somebody.

  • >> It is ok. You're not alone. That you're not the only person that these things have

  • happened to. And because they've happened, it doesn't mean that you're any different.

  • You're no different. You are loved. And there are people that are around you that will embrace

  • you, that will accept you for those things.

  • [Dr. Fouch] So, encouraging them to seek help, just to talk to somebody and to be open and

  • honest about what's going on. I think would be one way of helping somebody--getting them

  • to someone. Or just to be able to identify that it's a problem.

  • [Steve] So, it's really not fair to say to someone, "just have more self-control," or

  • "just get a hold of yourself." There really needs to be a strategy to overcome.

  • [Dr. Fouch] Yes.

  • [Steve] Do you think that's fair to say?

  • [Dr. Fouch] Oh, it's very fair to say. Yeah, there has to be a plan, an action plan.

  • >>I've said, I've got this; I can do this. You know what--I don't got this. I don't have

  • any control over any of this. And I just started throwing that along with other problems that

  • had risen into a category and just gave it to God one day. Just like ok, here it is.

  • I truly, what is it that I can do?

  • [Dr. Fouch] The second step, very much like it, is that you have to acknowledge that you

  • need a higher power. And in a Christian's case, that would be God the Father and Jesus

  • Christ. So, by bringing them on board, then you have begun a healing process, as well

  • as a recovery process. They become the central part of your recovery. And as long as your

  • relationship with them continues to grow and is strengthened, then the addiction and Satan's

  • pull or influence over you becomes less and less. The farther away you get away from the

  • addictive material, then the brain chemistry actually starts to change and it has a less

  • of a powerful affect on you.

  • > And once I learned His Word and learned His ways, it replaced everything in my life

  • that I had been searching for.

  • >> I would spend so much time crying out, yelling out, asking questions, arguing, fussing,

  • and never sitting back to listen for the answer.

  • [Dr. Fouch] One individual I worked with a number of years ago, the thing that worked

  • for him the most, and it, and he had tried all kinds of things, was he had to pray in

  • the morning, and he had to be in God's Word in the morning. And when he did that, he felt

  • he had connected with God, and he was more able to resist any kind of temptation throughout

  • the day. So, for him that worked. Very important that when you are seeking help that God, again,

  • is at the center of it.

  • >> At the end of the day when I look back, wow, you know. These are the things I thought

  • about. I didn't think about these old habits, these old ways, which don't always occur,

  • that, I mean, those are still struggles. And when they do happen now, I'm aware of them.

  • And that's when I capture those thoughts and make them obedient to Christ.

  • [Dr. Fouch] You know it's amazing the healing that can take place when people begin to resolve

  • some of the things that have happened in their lives that they've held on to.

  • [Steve] And so to have a strategy in place to deal with those things, is that where a

  • counselor can really come into play?

  • [Dr. Fouch] I think so. I think the counselor can identify, help the person identify those

  • things more clearly, maybe. And also, can begin to take a look at some options for that

  • individual to address that particular issue.

  • Today, there are a lot of groups that many churches are putting together where people

  • can come together, and begin to work as a group to help each other overcome the problem.

  • So yeah, all of those things are good. Pastors, accountability partners, someone who has some

  • understanding of the spiritual and psychological aspects of this disorder.

  • >> If anybody's got a problem with this, or thinks they do, to be able to find that person

  • to talk to is, that one... do it! Face that fear. Jump out and talk to somebody about

  • it. You know I held onto these things and there were so many times that if I would have

  • just been able to turn to a family member, a friend and let it go, you know, I don't

  • know if I'd be where I'm at today.

  • [Dr. Fouch] So, that's where I think counseling comes into play. It's being able to talk with

  • somebody that can guide you through that process. It's the idea that you do not have to do this

  • on your own. That you have God the Father, you have Jesus Christ. You have, hopefully,

  • a supportive wife, friends, a pastor; that you have a support system who will help you

  • and that nobody expects you to be perfect all at once.

  • But if you want help for yourself, and to heal your marriage, or to give you a proper

  • perspective on relationships, then you need to rely on God, and get whatever other help

  • you need. That you need a support system, a sober support system, to help you manage

  • this problem, and to encourage you, and support you as you go through this.

  • [Steve] I'd like to give encouragement and support as you or your loved one strive to

  • overcome pornography. I hope you'll take advantage of the free offers we have today. So order

  • your free Bible study aid, Overcoming Pornography Addiction. It will give you help and hope.

  • And when you request it, we'll also send you a free subscription to The Good News magazine.

  • Gain insight into the Bible, and learn to use Scripture as a guide to the challenging

  • issues you face every day.

  • Call us: 1-888-886-8632 or go online at BeyondToday.tv or write us today, for the free study aid,

  • Overcoming Pornography Addiction and our magazine, The Good News.

  • On Beyond Today we provide all our materials absolutely free of charge, thanks to the generous

  • support of members of the United Church of God and from viewers like you. We welcome

  • you to partner with us to help reach more people with God's truth. Go online at BeyondToday.tv

  • where you'll also find a list of United Church of God congregations in cities around the

  • world. We welcome you to visit with us.

  • Is there any doubt that porn brings serious consequences? Don't buy into its lies. Don't

  • learn to practice lust. Don't try to live in that evil fantasy world. It will only lead

  • you down a destructive, perverse path.

  • There is a better way. You can find hope to overcome. We've just scratched the surface

  • with our program today, but we want to assist you in getting the help that you need. The

  • United Church of God has pastors around the world that can help. Please contact us, and

  • let us know how we can support you.

  • Here at Beyond Today, we regularly pray for all those who suffer from any addiction. We

  • pray that God will bless you with success in breaking free--and that you will remain

  • free and filled with the joy that comes from living a good and godly life.

  • For Beyond Today, I'm Steve Myers. Thanks for watching.

  • [Announcer] For the free literature offered on today's program, go online to BeyondToday.tv.

  • Please join us again next week on Beyond Today!

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