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[Steve] Pornography has always been around, but now it's a widespread crisis. Counselors
warn that this addiction has become an epidemic.
Why? Pornography is just a click away.
This is no longer someone else's problem. Pornography has invaded the hearts and homes
of your family, your friends--even your church. Odds are you know someone who has a secret
sex addiction. Maybe it's you?
On this special edition of Beyond Today, we'll talk with a Licensed Professional Clinical
Counselor and discuss: "How to Stop a Porn Addiction."
[Announcer] Join our host, Steve Myers and his guests, as they help you understand your
future on Beyond Today!
[Steve] Today's program is about sexual purity. Because we're speaking candidly about how
pornography affects people's hearts and minds, it may be inappropriate for younger viewers
and those sensitive to this issue.
However, I encourage you to stay tuned. This can be an uncomfortable topic that we Christians
don't address as much as we should, but it does affect so many people--and not just the
lives of those looking at porn.
Pornography addicts come from all walks of life. They're blue collar workers and white
collar executives. They're teens and they're old. They're single. They're married. Men
and women. They're Christian and atheist. There's no discrimination. Porn addicts are
of any and every race.
Why so many? There's an increase in pornography use because it's available everywhere!
Pornography is on everything: apps for smart phones; computer tablets and don't forget
Internet television. A recent University of Sydney study verifies an upsurge in porn use
because new technologies are exploding access.
If you or someone you know has been taken in by this plague, please realize--it doesn't
have to be this way--there is hope. I spoke with a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor
who has a PhD. in Psychology--Dr. Roy Fouch. He is also Director of Mental Health at the
Hamilton, Ohio County Justice Center and has a private practice as a Christian counselor.
And I also talked with two individuals who are breaking free of their porn addiction
and have found hope.
I began by asking Dr. Fouch about the effect of pornography.
[Steve] Does pornography really impact our brain?
[Dr. Fouch] Oh it does, in tremendous ways, in much the same way that a drug does. We
have this area of the brain called the limbic system which is responsible for pleasure and
reward. What happens is these chemicals called neurotransmitters that are in the brain, are
activated by drugs, by love, by sexual stimulation.
And so, those chemicals called neurotransmitters, one of them is dopamine, and there is serotonin
and norepinephrine, these chemicals work together to allow that person to experience pleasure,
and then they use that to deal with some of these negative emotions that they may have.
Even things like loneliness or low self-esteem, anger, depression, anxiety. All these things
become less when the brain is activated in that way.
And so therefore the brain keeps wanting more and more, and it needs more and more, because
these receptor sites where these neurotransmitters operate, they increase in numbers. That's
why when people do certain drugs, they have to keep doing more and more of the same drug.
Well, it's the same thing with pornography or any kind of sexual stimulation, the brain
begins to need more and more of it, in order to get the same affect.
> It gave me a false sense of reality. It was like I couldn't take the pornography off
of my mind. I couldn't wait to get off work, to go try to put a DVD in, or get on the internet
to look at pornography.
[Dr. Fouch] That's one aspect, but then you have other chemicals in the brain that may
have more to do with the thought process. So now you start coupling the cognitive part
with the other, which is chemically driven too, and all of a sudden the mind, and the
thought process, and the addictive process, get coupled together. And so, it becomes a
very powerful process.
> At the end, once it was finished, I would feel bad then go back and watch more.
[Dr. Fouch] You build up almost like a tolerance to it. So, what it was doing for you before,
it's no longer doing. So now you have to go to something a little bit more powerful, and
then that process can continue until people start acting out.
Then, of course, what happens too, you couple this with masturbation, orgasm and things
like that, and that is a powerful reinforcer to any behavior. And then it becomes very,
very difficult to stop that.
>> There was nothing. There was that moment of pleasure that would come from that; that
left me more empty than when I even started. I would feel better for that millisecond and
then I would feel more empty than I had when the process had begun.
[Dr. Fouch] Acting out, of course the masturbation is a form of acting out, but also using phone
lines where you can get phone sex, or escorts, or call girls or prostitutes. We can go down
that road as well.
> At the moment it was, is when I was caught up in my selfishness, cause I would watch
pornography, masturbate to the pornography, and would not have sex with my wife. That
was sickening. You know it was a sickness.
[Dr. Fouch] Yeah, it becomes obsessive and compulsive. It becomes almost like an obsessive
compulsive disorder. You obsess about it. You have a compulsive behavior. You do it
under certain circumstances, and it provides you with relief pleasure, or what have you,
and then you continue to do that
There have been some studies that have shown that most sexual addicts, 90% of men started
off by viewing pornography, 70% of the women started off by viewing pornography. So it
becomes almost like a, what we talk about a gateway drug. It's very similar.
Some people become so obsessed with it, that they might even start viewing some sites at
work. You know, using work computers, and that sort of thing.
[Steve] People have a tendency to minimize the idea, that porn is really that big of
a problem. I've heard men, even some women say, well, it's not that big a deal; everybody
does it; and it's not as serious as some would say. How would you answer someone that would
say, you know, porn really isn't that big of an issue?
[Dr. Fouch] Well, I would answer by saying, it is a big issue.
>> Just bypass and thought it was normal actions. Oh, I'm a man. And this is just what guys;
this is just the kind of thing that guys do. This is who we are. This is how God made us.
You know, that's really not what we were made to do, what we were made to be.
[Steve] That's right, it's not what you're made to do. This is a big issue and the stakes
are high. Pornography doesn't affect only the user. Porn affects everyone: financially,
socially and what many overlook, spiritually.
We know that some of you are struggling to break free from pornography.
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[Steve] We've been having a frank discussion on sexual purity with Licensed Professional
Clinical Counselor, Dr. Roy Fouch, as well as with two individuals who are breaking free
from pornography addiction.
Because we're speaking openly and candidly about how pornography affects people's hearts
and minds, it may be inappropriate for our younger viewers and those sensitive to this
issue.
Even though it's an uncomfortable topic, we're addressing it because it is so widespread
and affects so many Christians.
Let's pick up my conversation with Dr. Fouch.
[Steve] Now how does that impact the way that people begin to look at life then, in general?
[Dr. Fouch] Many people get into a process of lying and deception. And that, in some
cases, becomes more painful to a spouse than the actual event itself, because it breaks
trust. And when you break trust in a marital relationship, all of a sudden you start eroding
one of the key foundations to a healthy relationship.
You know, the spouse begins to feel that this is more important to you than the relationship.
And there is a lot of pain and suffering that goes in a marital relationship, as a result
of that. And I've heard many, many women say it feels the same as if he would go out and
actually have an affair with someone.
> That was something my wife and I talked about. To her, I was having an affair on her,
is what I was doing.
[Dr. Fouch] So there's multiple reasons why this is such a devastating thing to be doing,
not only to oneself, but also to the people that love you. And it gives you such a false
sense of what healthy sexuality really is, and sexuality is something that should be
reserved for a marital relationship, and there only.
> Actually marriage will not take the porn addiction away, it only hinders your marriage.
It pushes people away that really love you. You miss out on opportunities of what true
love is.
>> I would approach sex as a different person. It wasn't; there was no attachment meant for
it, towards it, any of that. At the same time, inside I was dying, craving that love, that
affection that, you know, its romance you see on television and on the movies. But I
just never had that. That's what I wanted.
> It gave me a false sense of what love was. Cause the real love that was offered to me,
I pushed it away and I gravitated towards porn. That was, it was an idol to me. Porn
was my idol. That was like, the only relationship that I had at the time.
[Steve] You think it's fair to say you can be your own worst enemy?
[Dr. Fouch] Oh absolutely, because our minds contrive and develop reasons to maintain the
addictive process. I sometimes refer to this as the lies we tell ourselves. These are the
justifications, the well formulated reasons that we give ourselves permission to do what
we do.
In Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous, they sometimes refer to these things as stinking
thinking. They're irrational thoughts that reinforce irrational behavior. The behavior
that's irrational is something that's self-destructive to self and to others. But yet, we find ways
to give ourselves excuses for doing that.
[Steve] Now as a Christian counselor, how do you feel porn affects someone spiritually?
[Dr. Fouch] Well because it's sin, and we know that sin has an adverse affect upon the
individual, it gives Satan inroads into our spiritual life as long as we're.... It's kind
of like, we can't serve two masters and the master of pornography is Satan. Because it
is a violation of God's law.
It goes contrary to what God teaches us in His word, because it is a form of lust. And
Christ told us very specifically what we do in our minds, and this goes beyond just doing
it in your minds. This is not just a fantasy, it is acting out a fantasy, it's using props
to stimulate that fantasy. And, so there is no form of viewing pornography which is okay
in my mind.
So, the world is out there. Satan is out there, who by the way, as we know, is the father
of lies. Very smart, and so he works with the world's systems and tries to develop ways
of thinking about things that more are in line with what he is trying to accomplish,
which is to destroy us individually, our marriages, our nation.
Now some people will say, "Well me and my wife, or my wife and I, we look at pornography
to kind of spice up our sex life." And, I don't think that is okay either.
So you're going down a dangerous path if you think that any form of viewing pornography
is correct. We could ask Jesus Christ that question and I'm sure He would say absolutely
not, and I would agree.
[Steve] I'm sure some of our viewers wonder, "Do I need to change now, is it important?"
[Dr. Fouch] I would tell them that today is an important time to change, because the quality
of your life will change. You'll have a better life. You'll have a more fulfilling life.
You'll have a closer relationship with God. You'll have a better relationship with your
spouse, if you happen to be married. And you will have a better perspective on relationships
with women, if you're single; or men, if you're single. It won't be based on sexuality, it
will be based on relationships.
[Steve] Have you seen people overcome?
[Dr. Fouch] I've seen lots of people overcome, and overcoming is a process. Overcoming doesn't
mean that the day you decide to stop looking at pornography, you'll never look at it again.
But yes, with the right determination, with God's help in particular, like Scripture says,
all things are possible through Christ who strengthens me. So with Christ's help, and
the Father's help, there definitely is hope. And I've seen many people recover completely
and have been away from it for years, and years, and years.
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Is there any doubt that sexual purity is being erased from our society today? That's why
we are speaking openly about pornography and its damaging effect on people. Even though
this is an uncomfortable topic and maybe inappropriate for younger viewers and those sensitive to
this issue, I hope you will stay tuned as we discuss the fact that there is hope! This
can be overcome. You can stop a porn addiction.
I interviewed Christian counselor, Dr. Roy Fouch, who has a PhD. in Psychology and is
a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor, as well as two individuals who have found
hope and are breaking free from pornography addiction.
What do you think is the most important perspective to begin overcoming, to get some hope back?
What is that first step that someone should take?
[Dr. Fouch] Well, one of the first steps is admitting that you have a problem. Denial,
or minimization of the problem, which is a form of denial. Once you are able to come
to grips with the fact that this is a problem, then that's a good first step.
>> You know, I never thought of this sexual addiction as a problem, as much as it truly
had become in my life. There was that denial. There was that true disconnect from it, like
minimizing the situation and things along that nature.
> As a man, I always think I can do it myself. I didn't need any help even when it came down
to asking for directions. I never wanted to admit when I was lost. But when I finally
admitted that I was lost, and that I couldn't do it on my own, is when I was really redeemed.
[Dr. Fouch] Admitting that you need help is not a bad thing. It doesn't make you weak.
It's actually a strength. And one of the first steps is admitting that you are powerless
over this particular addiction.
> Thirteen years... So, I struggled and fought and ran, and hid and lied for 13 years before
I finally came clean with myself.
[Steve] If you had to look at the aspect of trying to help someone you love, can a loved
one do anything to help?
[Dr. Fouch] Well, I think the loved one needs to encourage the person who they have identified
as having a problem, whether it be a spouse or whether it be a friend, to get help. You
know, and to talk to somebody.
>> It is ok. You're not alone. That you're not the only person that these things have
happened to. And because they've happened, it doesn't mean that you're any different.
You're no different. You are loved. And there are people that are around you that will embrace
you, that will accept you for those things.
[Dr. Fouch] So, encouraging them to seek help, just to talk to somebody and to be open and
honest about what's going on. I think would be one way of helping somebody--getting them
to someone. Or just to be able to identify that it's a problem.
[Steve] So, it's really not fair to say to someone, "just have more self-control," or
"just get a hold of yourself." There really needs to be a strategy to overcome.
[Dr. Fouch] Yes.
[Steve] Do you think that's fair to say?
[Dr. Fouch] Oh, it's very fair to say. Yeah, there has to be a plan, an action plan.
>>I've said, I've got this; I can do this. You know what--I don't got this. I don't have
any control over any of this. And I just started throwing that along with other problems that
had risen into a category and just gave it to God one day. Just like ok, here it is.
I truly, what is it that I can do?
[Dr. Fouch] The second step, very much like it, is that you have to acknowledge that you
need a higher power. And in a Christian's case, that would be God the Father and Jesus
Christ. So, by bringing them on board, then you have begun a healing process, as well
as a recovery process. They become the central part of your recovery. And as long as your
relationship with them continues to grow and is strengthened, then the addiction and Satan's
pull or influence over you becomes less and less. The farther away you get away from the
addictive material, then the brain chemistry actually starts to change and it has a less
of a powerful affect on you.
> And once I learned His Word and learned His ways, it replaced everything in my life
that I had been searching for.
>> I would spend so much time crying out, yelling out, asking questions, arguing, fussing,
and never sitting back to listen for the answer.
[Dr. Fouch] One individual I worked with a number of years ago, the thing that worked
for him the most, and it, and he had tried all kinds of things, was he had to pray in
the morning, and he had to be in God's Word in the morning. And when he did that, he felt
he had connected with God, and he was more able to resist any kind of temptation throughout
the day. So, for him that worked. Very important that when you are seeking help that God, again,
is at the center of it.
>> At the end of the day when I look back, wow, you know. These are the things I thought
about. I didn't think about these old habits, these old ways, which don't always occur,
that, I mean, those are still struggles. And when they do happen now, I'm aware of them.
And that's when I capture those thoughts and make them obedient to Christ.
[Dr. Fouch] You know it's amazing the healing that can take place when people begin to resolve
some of the things that have happened in their lives that they've held on to.
[Steve] And so to have a strategy in place to deal with those things, is that where a
counselor can really come into play?
[Dr. Fouch] I think so. I think the counselor can identify, help the person identify those
things more clearly, maybe. And also, can begin to take a look at some options for that
individual to address that particular issue.
Today, there are a lot of groups that many churches are putting together where people
can come together, and begin to work as a group to help each other overcome the problem.
So yeah, all of those things are good. Pastors, accountability partners, someone who has some
understanding of the spiritual and psychological aspects of this disorder.
>> If anybody's got a problem with this, or thinks they do, to be able to find that person
to talk to is, that one... do it! Face that fear. Jump out and talk to somebody about
it. You know I held onto these things and there were so many times that if I would have
just been able to turn to a family member, a friend and let it go, you know, I don't
know if I'd be where I'm at today.
[Dr. Fouch] So, that's where I think counseling comes into play. It's being able to talk with
somebody that can guide you through that process. It's the idea that you do not have to do this
on your own. That you have God the Father, you have Jesus Christ. You have, hopefully,
a supportive wife, friends, a pastor; that you have a support system who will help you
and that nobody expects you to be perfect all at once.
But if you want help for yourself, and to heal your marriage, or to give you a proper
perspective on relationships, then you need to rely on God, and get whatever other help
you need. That you need a support system, a sober support system, to help you manage
this problem, and to encourage you, and support you as you go through this.
[Steve] I'd like to give encouragement and support as you or your loved one strive to
overcome pornography. I hope you'll take advantage of the free offers we have today. So order
your free Bible study aid, Overcoming Pornography Addiction. It will give you help and hope.
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Is there any doubt that porn brings serious consequences? Don't buy into its lies. Don't
learn to practice lust. Don't try to live in that evil fantasy world. It will only lead
you down a destructive, perverse path.
There is a better way. You can find hope to overcome. We've just scratched the surface
with our program today, but we want to assist you in getting the help that you need. The
United Church of God has pastors around the world that can help. Please contact us, and
let us know how we can support you.
Here at Beyond Today, we regularly pray for all those who suffer from any addiction. We
pray that God will bless you with success in breaking free--and that you will remain
free and filled with the joy that comes from living a good and godly life.
For Beyond Today, I'm Steve Myers. Thanks for watching.
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