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  • Translator: Camille Martínez

  • I'm a journalist,

  • and I'm an immigrant.

  • And these two conditions define me.

  • I was born in Mexico,

  • but I've spent more than half my life reporting in the United States,

  • a country which was itself created by immigrants.

  • As a reporter

  • and as a foreigner,

  • I've learned that neutrality,

  • silence

  • and fear aren't the best options --

  • not in journalism, nor in life.

  • Neutrality

  • is often an excuse that we journalists use

  • to hide from our true responsibility.

  • What is that responsibility?

  • It is to question

  • and to challenge

  • those in positions of power.

  • That's what journalism is for.

  • That's the beauty of journalism:

  • to question and challenge the powerful.

  • Of course, we have the obligation to report reality as it is,

  • not how we would like it to be.

  • In that sense, I agree with the principle of objectivity:

  • if a house is blue, I say that it's blue.

  • If there are a million unemployed people, I say there are a million.

  • But neutrality

  • won't necessarily lead me to the truth.

  • Even if I'm unequivocally scrupulous,

  • and I present both sides of a news item --

  • the Democratic and the Republican,

  • the liberal and the conservative,

  • the government's and the opposition's --

  • in the end, I have no guarantee,

  • nor are any of us guaranteed that we'll know what's true

  • and what's not true.

  • Life is much more complicated,

  • and I believe journalism should reflect that very complexity.

  • To be clear: I refuse

  • to be a tape recorder.

  • I didn't become a journalist to be a tape recorder.

  • I know what you're going to say: no one uses tape recorders nowadays.

  • (Laughter)

  • In that case, I refuse to take out my cell phone

  • and hit the record button

  • and point it in front of me as if I were at a concert,

  • like a fan at a concert.

  • That is not true journalism.

  • Contrary to what many people think,

  • journalists are making value judgments all the time,

  • ethical and moral judgments.

  • And we're always making decisions that are exceedingly personal

  • and extraordinarily subjective.

  • For example:

  • What happens if you're called to cover a dictatorship,

  • like Augusto Pinochet's regime in Chile

  • or Fidel Castro's in Cuba?

  • Are you going to report only what the general and commander want,

  • or will you confront them?

  • What happens if you find out that in your country

  • or in the country next door,

  • students are disappearing

  • and hidden graves are appearing,

  • or that millions of dollars are disappearing from the budget

  • and that ex-presidents are magically now multimillionaires?

  • Will you report only the official version?

  • Or what happens

  • if you're assigned to cover

  • the presidential elections of the primary superpower,

  • and one of the candidates makes comments that are racist,

  • sexist

  • and xenophobic?

  • That happened to me.

  • And I want to tell you what I did,

  • but first, let me explain where I'm coming from,

  • so you can understand my reaction.

  • I grew up in Mexico City, the oldest of five brothers,

  • and our family simply couldn't afford to pay for all of our college tuition.

  • So I studied in the morning, and worked in the afternoon.

  • Eventually,

  • I got the job I had always wanted:

  • television reporter.

  • It was a big opportunity.

  • But as I was working on my third story, I ended up

  • criticizing the president,

  • and questioning the lack of democracy in Mexico.

  • In Mexico, from 1929 to 2000, elections were always rigged;

  • the incumbent president would hand-pick his successor.

  • That's not true democracy.

  • To me it seemed like a brilliant idea to expose the president,

  • but to my boss --

  • (Laughter)

  • My boss didn't think it was such a great idea.

  • At that time, the presidential office, Los Pinos, had issued a direct censor

  • against the media.

  • My boss, who, aside from being in charge of the show I worked for,

  • was also in charge of a soccer team.

  • I always suspected that he was more interested in goals

  • than in the news.

  • He censored my report.

  • He asked me to change it, I said no,

  • so he put another journalist on the story

  • to write what I was supposed to say.

  • I did not want to be a censored journalist.

  • I don't know where I found the strength,

  • but I wrote my letter of resignation.

  • And so at 24 years of age -- just 24 --

  • I made the most difficult and most transcendental decision of my life.

  • Not only did I resign from television,

  • but I had also decided to leave my country.

  • I sold my car, a beat-up little red Volkswagen,

  • came up with some money

  • and said goodbye to my family,

  • to my friends,

  • to my streets,

  • to my favorite haunts -- to my tacos --

  • (Laughter)

  • and I bought a one-way ticket

  • to Los Angeles, California.

  • And so I became

  • one of the 250 million immigrants that exist in the world.

  • Ask any immigrant

  • about the first day they arrived in their new country,

  • and you'll find that they remember absolutely everything,

  • like it was a movie with background music.

  • In my case, I arrived in Los Angeles, the sun was setting,

  • and everything I owned --

  • a guitar, a suitcase and some documents --

  • I could carry all of it

  • with my two hands.

  • That feeling of absolute freedom,

  • I haven't experienced since.

  • And I survived with what little I had.

  • I obtained a student visa; I was studying.

  • I ate a lot of lettuce and bread, because that's all I had.

  • Finally, in 1984,

  • I landed my first job as a TV reporter in the United States.

  • And the first thing I noticed was that in the US,

  • my colleagues criticized -- and mercilessly --

  • then president Ronald Reagan,

  • and absolutely nothing happened; no one censored them.

  • And I thought:

  • I love this country.

  • (Laughter)

  • (Applause)

  • And that's how it's been

  • for more than 30 years:

  • reporting with total freedom,

  • and being treated as an equal despite being an immigrant --

  • until, without warning,

  • I was assigned to cover the recent US presidential election.

  • On June 16, 2015,

  • a candidate who would eventually become the president of the United States

  • said that Mexican immigrants

  • were criminals,

  • drug traffickers

  • and rapists.

  • And I knew

  • that he was lying.

  • I knew he was wrong for one very simple reason:

  • I'm a Mexican immigrant.

  • And we're not like that.

  • So I did what any other reporter would have done:

  • I wrote him a letter by hand

  • requesting an interview,

  • and I sent it to his Tower in New York.

  • The next day

  • I was at work,

  • and I suddenly began to receive hundreds of calls and texts

  • on my cell phone,

  • some more insulting than others.

  • I didn't know what was happening until my friend came into my office

  • and said, "They published your cell number online."

  • They actually did that.

  • Here's the letter they sent

  • where they gave out my number.

  • Don't bother writing it down, OK? I already changed it.

  • (Laughter)

  • But I learned two things.

  • The first one is that you should never, never, ever

  • give your cell number to Donald Trump.

  • (Laughter)

  • (Applause)

  • The second lesson was that I needed to stop being neutral

  • at that point.

  • From then on, my mission as a journalist changed.

  • I would confront the candidate

  • and show that he was wrong,

  • that what he said about immigrants in the US was not true.

  • Let me give you some figures.

  • Ninety-seven percent of all undocumented people in the United States

  • are good people.

  • Less than three percent have committed a serious crime,

  • or "felony," as they say in English.

  • In comparison, six percent of US citizens have committed a serious crime.

  • The conclusion is that undocumented immigrants behave much better

  • than US citizens.

  • Based on that data, I made a plan.

  • Eight weeks after they published my cell number,

  • I obtained a press pass for a press conference

  • for the candidate gaining momentum in the polls.

  • I decided to confront him

  • in person.

  • But ...

  • things didn't turn out exactly as I had planned; watch:

  • [Donald Trump Press Conference Dubuque, Iowa]

  • (Video) Jorge Ramos: Mr. Trump, I have a question about immigration.

  • Donald Trump: Who's next? Yes, please.

  • JR: Your immigration plan is full of empty promises.

  • DT: Excuse me, you weren't called. Sit down. Sit down!

  • JR: I'm a reporter; as an immigrant and as a US citizen,

  • I have the right to ask a question.

  • DT: No you don't. JR: I have the right to ask --

  • DT: Go back to Univision.

  • JR: This is the question:

  • You cannot deport 11 million people.

  • You cannot build a 1900-mile wall.

  • You cannot deny citizenship to children in this country.

  • DT: Sit down. JR: And with those ideas --

  • DT: You weren't called.

  • JR: I'm a reporter and I have -- Don't touch me, sir.

  • Guard 1: Please don't disrupt. You're being disruptive.

  • JR: I have the right to ask a question. G1: Yes, in order. In turn, sir.

  • Guard 2: Do you have your media credential?

  • JR: I have the right --

  • G2: Where? Let me see. JR: It's over there.

  • Man: Whoever's coming out, stay out.

  • G2: You've just got to wait your turn.

  • Man: You're very rude. It's not about you.

  • JR: It's not about you -- Man: Get out of my country!

  • Man: It's not about you.

  • JR: I'm a US citizen, too.

  • Man: Well ...whatever. No, Univision. It's not about you.

  • JR: It's not about you. It's about the United States.

  • (Applause)

  • (Applause ends)

  • Whenever I see that video,

  • the first thing I always think is that hate

  • is contagious.

  • If you notice, after the candidate says, "Go back to Univision" -- that's code;

  • what he's telling me is, "Get out of here."

  • One member of his entourage, as if he had been given permission, said,

  • "Get out of my country,"

  • not knowing that I'm also a US citizen.

  • After watching this video many times,

  • I also think that in order to break free from neutrality --

  • and for it to be a true break --

  • one has to lose their fear,

  • and then learn how to say, "No;

  • I'm not going to be quiet.

  • I'm not going to sit down.

  • And I'm not going to leave."

  • The word "no" --

  • (Applause)

  • "no" is the most powerful word that exists in any language,

  • and it always precedes any important change in our lives.

  • And I think there's enormous dignity

  • and it generates a great deal of respect

  • to be able to step back

  • and to push back and say,

  • "No."

  • Elie Wiesel -- Holocaust survivor,

  • Nobel Peace Prize recipient

  • and who, unfortunately, we lost very recently --

  • said some very wise words:

  • "We must take a side.

  • Neutrality helps only the oppressor,

  • never the victim."

  • And he's completely right.

  • We journalists are obligated to take sides in certain circumstances;

  • in cases of racism,

  • discrimination,

  • corruption,

  • lying to the public,

  • dictatorships and human rights,

  • we need to set aside neutrality and indifference.

  • Spanish has a great word

  • to describe the stance that journalists should take.

  • The word is "contrapoder [anti-establishment]."

  • Basically, we journalists should be on the opposite side

  • from those in power.

  • But if you're in bed with politicians,

  • if you go to the baptism or wedding of the governor's son

  • or if you want to be the president's buddy,

  • how are you going to criticize them?

  • When I'm assigned to interview a powerful or influential person,

  • I always keep two things in mind:

  • if I don't ask this difficult and uncomfortable question,

  • no one else is going to;

  • and that I'm never going to see this person again.

  • So I'm not looking to make a good impression

  • or to forge a connection.

  • In the end, if I have to choose between being the president's friend

  • or enemy,

  • I always prefer to be their enemy.

  • In closing:

  • I know this is a difficult time to be an immigrant and a journalist,

  • but now more than ever,

  • we need journalists who are prepared,

  • at any given moment,

  • to set neutrality aside.

  • Personally, I feel like I've been preparing for this moment

  • my whole life.

  • When they censored me when I was 24,

  • I learned that neutrality, fear and silence often make you an accomplice

  • in crime, abuse

  • and injustice.

  • And being an accomplice to power

  • is never good journalism.

  • Now, at 59 years old,

  • I only hope to have a tiny bit

  • of the courage and mental clarity I had at 24,

  • and that way, never again

  • remain quiet.

  • Thank you very much.

  • (Applause)

  • Thank you.

  • (Applause)

Translator: Camille Martínez

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