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  • What's up guys, Rogue-9 here and for the first time ever, we now have access to a CTU

    大家好,我是rouge-9! 有史以來第一次我們在CTU裏

  • that has a choice of two different secondary machine pistols.


  • So the questions that arise are: Which one should you pick?


  • What are their relative strengths and weaknesses?


  • Will the in-game damage stats be correct (spoiler alert: they aren't)?

    遊戲內的傷害數值是不是正確的 ? (暴雷:並不是)

  • And just for comparison's sake, how do they stack up against the existing machine pistols?


  • Answers to all of those questions and more, coming right up!


  • As so often, timestamps to different parts of the video in the comments section below


  • for all of you who are just looking for specific info!


  • And before we get into the nitty gritty comparisons, let me first answer the most common question

    而在我們進入比較細節之前, 讓我先回答最常見的問題

  • I have received about the SMG-12 and that is: “Is it suppressed?”


  • And yes, I can confirm that the SMG-12 is in fact integrally suppressed; it does not

    沒錯,我可以確認的是SMG-12 是內置消音器的

  • give your opponent an incoming fire warning indicator, it is a lot quieter than unsuppressed

    它並不會給敵人白箭頭警告 ,亦比其他未消音的槍

  • guns and all this also explains why you cannot use any muzzle attachments with this gun and

    更安靜,這也解釋了為什麼你不能 為它裝上任何槍口配件,和

  • why the baseline damage is so low.


  • Now, to get an initial understanding of how these guns compare to each other,


  • we can first compare their baseline stats.


  • The C75 Auto is the most powerful with a medium capacity and the slowest fire rate.

    C75 Auto是最暴力的, 擁有中等的彈匣容量和最慢的射速。

  • The BEARING-9 is a bitmiddle of the road”; with slightly lower damage, medium capacity

    BEARING-9就比較“中規中矩”; 有較低的傷害和中等的彈匣容量

  • and slightly higher fire rate than the C75.


  • The SMG-11 and 12 both have the highest fire rate with the 11 sporting decent power but


  • low capacity and the 12 having the lowest baseline damage but also the highest capacity.

    較低的彈匣容量。12就擁有最低的傷害, 同時擁有最高的彈匣容量。

  • Mobility for all four guns is 50… whatever that means.

    四把槍的機動性都是50 ...不管 這意味著什麼。

  • Reload times are not listed and wouldn't it be great if they were (hint hint, nudge nudge Ubi).

    裝填時間並沒有列出, 但如果我在這裡提供不是好極了嗎? (育碧我都給你提示了)

  • But until then, this is where my first tests come into play and the SMG-12 clocked in the

    但在實裝之前, 這是我的測試結果。SMG-12位居榜末

  • slowest with a reload time from empty of 3s and a tactical reload time of 2s.


  • After that we have the C75 Auto with 2.9s & 2s and top of the list here with 2.7 & 1.9s

    之後,我們有C75Auto的2.9秒和 2秒.並排於榜首的2.7秒和1.9秒

  • are both the SMG-11 and the BEARING-9.


  • So there's a good start but the in-game damage stats are not the most useful if we


  • truly want to compare the guns; no what we need is an analysis of a comprehensive damage

    沒有什麼用處, 我們要的是一個全面性的傷害-距離分析

  • drop-off test and here are the results!


  • One of the top advantages that machine pistol sidearms have over semi-auto pistols is that


  • they carry their baseline power over a longer distance.


  • Damage drop-off starts at 18m and bottoms out at 28m.

    損害縮減由18米開始, 在28米時到達最低點。

  • For the unsuppressed weapons, I managed to confirm the baseline stats and interestingly,

    對於未消音的武器,我設法 確認了數據.但有趣的是

  • the curves for the two existing MPs are exactly the same.


  • The C75 does 2 points of extra damage up close and 1 point extra at distance.

    C75於近距離會做成2點額外傷害 而在遠距離造成額外1點。

  • The SMG-12's damage curve is a good chunk lower overall but that is only because it is suppressed.


  • Once we suppress its competitors as well, they all end up with the exact same damage

    只要把SMG-11同樣消音, 它們就會擁有完全相同的傷害

  • drop-off curves (and yes, that means that the in-game suppressed damage stats are not quite accurate).


  • Here's the same information again as a table (for those of you who are into that kind of stuff)


  • and something to note here is how powerful the machine pistols are not just up close


  • but even at long range.


  • Think back to my comparison of the MP5 variants in the game and you will remember that the


  • damage stats ranged from 16-30 points per shot, for these guns it's 19-35 which shows

    MP5的傷害為每槍16-30點, 而這些手槍為每槍19-35點.這表明

  • us that all in all, these secondary weapons are highly competitive in terms of their damage

    只考慮到輸出,這些副武器 可以和主武器相比

  • output, especially when you consider their outstanding fire rates.


  • Since all of these stats amount to only three different damage curves, we end up with three

    由於這些數據只給出三個 不同的傷害曲線,我們得到了三種

  • different categories of shots to kill.


  • The unsuppressed C75 at the top, then the Bearing and SMG-11 and finally all four weapons suppressed.


  • But this information alone is still not quite enough to allow us to evaluate their damage output.

    但是只有這些信息仍然不夠 足以讓我們能夠評估它們的輸出。

  • Damage per second is far more telling here and these stats show that the SMG-12 and C75 Auto

    每秒造成傷害有更多用處 數據表明SMG-12和C75Auto

  • are essentially on par, with the C75 a little more powerful up close and the SMG-12

    基本上看齊, C75在近距離比較強力而SMG-12

  • winning out at distance (but only as long as the C75 is unsuppressed; once you suppress it,


  • it becomes the weakest choice at any range!).


  • If we compare the time to kill stats against various levels of armour, we can observe that


  • on average the unsuppressed C75 consistently beats the SMG-12 by around 20-30ms but add


  • a suppressor into the mix and the tables are reversed.


  • All of these times of course are when firing on full auto and landing body shots with a 100% hit rate.


  • My preliminary conclusion here is that even though the C75 has the highest damage per

    我的初步結論是, 雖然C75具有每發最高傷害

  • shot and a decent capacity, the low fire rate negates any advantage this could have given

    和不錯的容量,它的低射速 抵銷了全部優勢.這可能令

  • the gun over the other machine pistols and definitely makes it the least favourable choice

    槍比其他機關手槍相比更差, 而當C75被消音時

  • once you run a suppressor.


  • If you're going to choose the C75, you should definitely run it unsuppressed to get the


  • most out of its elevated base damage; if you want a silent weapon, you are 100% better

    它擁有最高基本傷害的優勢;如果你 想要一把消音武器,SMG-12

  • off choosing the SMG-12.


  • But damage output is only half the story, you also need to be able to hit what you're

    但是傷害輸出並不是全部, 您還需要能夠打到你正在瞄準的目標

  • aiming at so let's now go over the controllability of each of these guns and one of the most

    現在去看看每一把槍的控制性, 和其中一個最重要的

  • important factors here is what attachments you can use.


  • I have covered the exact mechanics by which the grips and muzzle attachments affect recoil


  • in separate videos in the past, so I won't go into too much detail about their functionality here.

    對後座力的影響,所以我不會 在這裡深究太多。

  • Links to those other videos at the end if you're interested.


  • As an integrally suppressed weapon, the SMG-12 gets no muzzle adapters but apart from that,

    作為一把內置消音器的武器,SMG-12 並沒有任何槍口配件但除此以外,

  • it has access to all attachments except for the ACOG sight.

    它可以裝上所有配件 除了ACOG瞄準器。

  • In stark contrast to this, the C75 gets no attachments at all except for the suppressor


  • which we have already learnt is 100% pointless for this gun.


  • It doesn't even have access to the laser sight!


  • Out of all weapons in the game, there are only four that cannot attach the laser sight

    在遊戲中所有的武器, 只有四把不能裝上雷射瞄準器

  • and this is one of them.


  • Things are not looking good for the C75.


  • The two previously existing machine pistols get a good selection of attachments and in

    而對於兩把已經實裝的機關手槍, 它們有不少配件可供選擇

  • terms of recoil control, the most important ones here are the vertical grip and the compensator.

    在後坐力控制方面,最重要的配件為 垂直握把和補償器 。

  • Ah but Rogue!”


  • I hear you cry out.


  • The C75 and the BEARING-9 already have fixed vertical grips attached so they will


  • surely have an innate recoil advantage, no?”


  • Well, if you compare the baseline recoil patterns of these four weapons, it quickly becomes


  • clear that sadly no, neither of these guns gets any advantage and in fact, the recoil

    得知並不是這樣的,這些槍 沒有得到任何好處,而且事實上四把槍

  • patterns for all four guns are all exactly the same.


  • So it all boils down to the attachments and if we compare the best possible recoil patterns

    因此我們又回到了配件選擇, 如果我們比較每把槍可以

  • we can achieve with each gun, we can see that the C75 has no change (because no attachments),

    達成的最佳後座力模型,我們可以看到 C75並沒有變化(因為它沒有附件)

  • the Bearing improves a little with the compensator, the vertical grip on the SMG-12 adds even

    BEARING用補償器改善了一點, SMG-12的垂直握把改善了

  • more benefit and last and overall best, is the SMG-11 with both the vertical grip and compensator attached.


  • And before we move on, one final note to make in relation to controllability is that all


  • of these guns, with the exception of the SMG-11, have the option of switching to a single fire


  • mode, for when you really want to pick your shots.


  • Last but not least, before I draw my final conclusions, I think it's worth quickly


  • exploring how effective the integral suppressor on the SMG-12 is since in the past, especially


  • with the MP5SD and the Six12 SD, we have seen that the pre-attached suppressors in Rainbow

    MP5SD和Six12 SD,我們看過虹彩六號的內置消音器和

  • Six Siege are not always as efficient or effective as their detachable counterparts.


  • I've already demonstrated that the incoming fire indicator is hidden with the SMG-12,


  • so that's a great start but how does the noise suppression compare to the other machine


  • pistols once they have also been suppressed?


  • Here, have a listen!


  • So there you have it, yes the SMG-12 is a touch louder than the other machine pistols


  • but not by a massive amount and I am therefore comfortable

    但並不是有太大差別 因此,我輕易

  • in confirming that this gun is in fact fully suppressed.


  • Final conclusion time!


  • Compared to a lot of the sidearms and even some of the primary weapons in Rainbow Six Siege,

    和虹彩六號裏很多的附武器乃至 主武器比較,

  • the C75 Auto is a great little pistol.


  • High damage per shot up to around 20m, a great capacity and a very respectable fire rate,

    到20米為止的高傷害, 高容量和非常可觀的射速,

  • all could have added up to make this gun a favourite choice among the player base.


  • As long as you remember not to attach the suppressor of course, since it currently affects


  • the C75 more harshly than the in-game stats would suggest, as Serenity17

    C75比在遊戲中的數據所指更多 ,就像Serenity17

  • discovered to his detriment recently


  • "He's dead"


  • "This gun is fun to use. Pretty bad though, it took forever to kill Blackbeard..."


  • what a n00b.


  • The only problem for the C75 is that both characters that can pick the pistol also have


  • access to the SMG-12 and summing up the SMG-12 is pretty easy.

    亦可以使用SMG-12, 而且SMG-12的控制相對容易。

  • It is essentially an exact copy of the suppressed SMG-11 (same damage curve, same fire rate


  • and same baseline recoil) except that it has double the magazine capacity, the option of

    和相同的後座力),除了它具有 雙倍的彈匣容量,加裝

  • attaching the angled grip and the choice of a single fire mode.

    直角握把的選項和 單發模式。

  • The fact that the C75 cannot attach any optics and cannot improve its recoil pattern in any


  • way, means that even if you don't suppress that gun, the SMG-12 is the better choice

    意味著即使你把它消音, SMG-12仍然是更好的選擇

  • in almost all situations and if stealth is important to you, the SMG-12 is hands down

    在幾乎所有情況下或如果隱身 對你很重要,遊戲中你可選擇

  • the best sidearm you can pick in the game.


  • And that's it, if you want to access any of these stats for your own analysis, there


  • will be a link in the description below to my online spreadsheet which I will be updating


  • with new stats for Operation White Noise over the coming days and weeks.


  • What are your thoughts on the new machine pistols, let me know in the comments below


  • and if you liked the video, click the like button, dislike if you disliked it.


  • And with that guys, thank you so much for watching, I hope you enjoyed the video and


  • I will see you in the next episode!


What's up guys, Rogue-9 here and for the first time ever, we now have access to a CTU

大家好,我是rouge-9! 有史以來第一次我們在CTU裏


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