字幕列表 影片播放 列印所有字幕 列印翻譯字幕 列印英文字幕 What's up guys, Rogue-9 here and for the first time ever, we now have access to a CTU 大家好,我是rouge-9! 有史以來第一次我們在CTU裏 that has a choice of two different secondary machine pistols. 有兩種全自動手槍作為副武器選項 So the questions that arise are: Which one should you pick? 那麼問題來了:你應該選擇哪一把? What are their relative strengths and weaknesses? 它們的相對強處和弱項是什麼? Will the in-game damage stats be correct (spoiler alert: they aren't)? 遊戲內的傷害數值是不是正確的 ? (暴雷:並不是) And just for comparison's sake, how do they stack up against the existing machine pistols? 它們又和已有的機關手槍有什麼分別? Answers to all of those questions and more, coming right up! 所有問題的答案,馬上為你揭曉! As so often, timestamps to different parts of the video in the comments section below 一如既往,影片的留言部分有不同時段的時間軸 for all of you who are just looking for specific info! 為只為特定資訊的你而設! And before we get into the nitty gritty comparisons, let me first answer the most common question 而在我們進入比較細節之前, 讓我先回答最常見的問題 I have received about the SMG-12 and that is: “Is it suppressed?” 我收到很多人問SMG-12是不是消音的 And yes, I can confirm that the SMG-12 is in fact integrally suppressed; it does not 沒錯,我可以確認的是SMG-12 是內置消音器的 give your opponent an incoming fire warning indicator, it is a lot quieter than unsuppressed 它並不會給敵人白箭頭警告 ,亦比其他未消音的槍 guns and all this also explains why you cannot use any muzzle attachments with this gun and 更安靜,這也解釋了為什麼你不能 為它裝上任何槍口配件,和 why the baseline damage is so low. 為什麼它的傷害是如此之低。 Now, to get an initial understanding of how these guns compare to each other, 現在為了對這些槍進行相互比較的初步認識, we can first compare their baseline stats. 我們可以先比較它們的基本數據。 The C75 Auto is the most powerful with a medium capacity and the slowest fire rate. C75 Auto是最暴力的, 擁有中等的彈匣容量和最慢的射速。 The BEARING-9 is a bit “middle of the road”; with slightly lower damage, medium capacity BEARING-9就比較“中規中矩”; 有較低的傷害和中等的彈匣容量 and slightly higher fire rate than the C75. 但和C75相比較高的射速 The SMG-11 and 12 both have the highest fire rate with the 11 sporting decent power but SMG-11和12都具有最高的射速,11擁有較高傷害,但 low capacity and the 12 having the lowest baseline damage but also the highest capacity. 較低的彈匣容量。12就擁有最低的傷害, 同時擁有最高的彈匣容量。 Mobility for all four guns is 50… whatever that means. 四把槍的機動性都是50 ...不管 這意味著什麼。 Reload times are not listed and wouldn't it be great if they were (hint hint, nudge nudge Ubi). 裝填時間並沒有列出, 但如果我在這裡提供不是好極了嗎? (育碧我都給你提示了) But until then, this is where my first tests come into play and the SMG-12 clocked in the 但在實裝之前, 這是我的測試結果。SMG-12位居榜末 slowest with a reload time from empty of 3s and a tactical reload time of 2s. 擁有3秒的完全裝填和2秒的戰術裝填。 After that we have the C75 Auto with 2.9s & 2s and top of the list here with 2.7 & 1.9s 之後,我們有C75Auto的2.9秒和 2秒.並排於榜首的2.7秒和1.9秒 are both the SMG-11 and the BEARING-9. 則是SMG-11和BEARING-9。 So there's a good start but the in-game damage stats are not the most useful if we 作為遊戲中傷害比較這是一個不錯的開始,但如果我們要全面比較這並 truly want to compare the guns; no what we need is an analysis of a comprehensive damage 沒有什麼用處, 我們要的是一個全面性的傷害-距離分析 drop-off test and here are the results! 而這裡就是結果! One of the top advantages that machine pistol sidearms have over semi-auto pistols is that 全自動手槍其中一項勝過半自動手槍的優點是 they carry their baseline power over a longer distance. 它們的傷害削減開始得比較遠 Damage drop-off starts at 18m and bottoms out at 28m. 損害縮減由18米開始, 在28米時到達最低點。 For the unsuppressed weapons, I managed to confirm the baseline stats and interestingly, 對於未消音的武器,我設法 確認了數據.但有趣的是 the curves for the two existing MPs are exactly the same. 對於現有的兩把機關手槍,它們的曲線是完全一樣的。 The C75 does 2 points of extra damage up close and 1 point extra at distance. C75於近距離會做成2點額外傷害 而在遠距離造成額外1點。 The SMG-12's damage curve is a good chunk lower overall but that is only because it is suppressed. 在SMG-12的傷害曲線相比之下低了不少,但主要原因是它的內置消音器。 Once we suppress its competitors as well, they all end up with the exact same damage 只要把SMG-11同樣消音, 它們就會擁有完全相同的傷害 drop-off curves (and yes, that means that the in-game suppressed damage stats are not quite accurate). 削減曲線(沒錯這亦意味著遊戲中消音傷害並不是太準確) Here's the same information again as a table (for those of you who are into that kind of stuff) 這裡是上述資訊的圖表版(為數據控的你而設) and something to note here is how powerful the machine pistols are not just up close 值得留意的是機關手槍不只是近距離, but even at long range. 但在遠距離亦同樣強大。 Think back to my comparison of the MP5 variants in the game and you will remember that the 在遊戲中不同MP5的比較相比你會發現, damage stats ranged from 16-30 points per shot, for these guns it's 19-35 which shows MP5的傷害為每槍16-30點, 而這些手槍為每槍19-35點.這表明 us that all in all, these secondary weapons are highly competitive in terms of their damage 只考慮到輸出,這些副武器 可以和主武器相比 output, especially when you consider their outstanding fire rates. ,尤其是當你考慮到它們的高射速 Since all of these stats amount to only three different damage curves, we end up with three 由於這些數據只給出三個 不同的傷害曲線,我們得到了三種 different categories of shots to kill. 不同的擊殺需要子彈數。 The unsuppressed C75 at the top, then the Bearing and SMG-11 and finally all four weapons suppressed. 在最高的是未消音的C75,則BEARING和SMG-11在後,最後則是四個武器的消音版。 But this information alone is still not quite enough to allow us to evaluate their damage output. 但是只有這些信息仍然不夠 足以讓我們能夠評估它們的輸出。 Damage per second is far more telling here and these stats show that the SMG-12 and C75 Auto 每秒造成傷害有更多用處 數據表明SMG-12和C75Auto are essentially on par, with the C75 a little more powerful up close and the SMG-12 基本上看齊, C75在近距離比較強力而SMG-12 winning out at distance (but only as long as the C75 is unsuppressed; once you suppress it, 則在長距離勝出(但只考慮到未消音的C75;一旦你把它消音, it becomes the weakest choice at any range!). 它會成為在任何距離內最弱的一把!)。 If we compare the time to kill stats against various levels of armour, we can observe that 一旦我們比較不同裝甲等級的擊殺所需時間,我們可以觀察到 on average the unsuppressed C75 consistently beats the SMG-12 by around 20-30ms but add 未消音的C75一直比SMG-12快20至30微秒,但 a suppressor into the mix and the tables are reversed. 把C75消音後整個表就逆轉了。 All of these times of course are when firing on full auto and landing body shots with a 100% hit rate. 當然,所有時間都是以全自動射擊時打中軀體並且100%命中為前提。 My preliminary conclusion here is that even though the C75 has the highest damage per 我的初步結論是, 雖然C75具有每發最高傷害 shot and a decent capacity, the low fire rate negates any advantage this could have given 和不錯的容量,它的低射速 抵銷了全部優勢.這可能令 the gun over the other machine pistols and definitely makes it the least favourable choice 槍比其他機關手槍相比更差, 而當C75被消音時 once you run a suppressor. 肯定是最差的 If you're going to choose the C75, you should definitely run it unsuppressed to get the 如果你要選擇C75,你並不應該將它消音,以獲得 most out of its elevated base damage; if you want a silent weapon, you are 100% better 它擁有最高基本傷害的優勢;如果你 想要一把消音武器,SMG-12 off choosing the SMG-12. 是百分百更好的選擇。 But damage output is only half the story, you also need to be able to hit what you're 但是傷害輸出並不是全部, 您還需要能夠打到你正在瞄準的目標 aiming at so let's now go over the controllability of each of these guns and one of the most 現在去看看每一把槍的控制性, 和其中一個最重要的 important factors here is what attachments you can use. 性能指標:可以使用的配件。 I have covered the exact mechanics by which the grips and muzzle attachments affect recoil 我已經在以往的影片介紹過不同握把和槍口配件 in separate videos in the past, so I won't go into too much detail about their functionality here. 對後座力的影響,所以我不會 在這裡深究太多。 Links to those other videos at the end if you're interested. 影片最後有它們的鏈結。 As an integrally suppressed weapon, the SMG-12 gets no muzzle adapters but apart from that, 作為一把內置消音器的武器,SMG-12 並沒有任何槍口配件但除此以外, it has access to all attachments except for the ACOG sight. 它可以裝上所有配件 除了ACOG瞄準器。 In stark contrast to this, the C75 gets no attachments at all except for the suppressor 作為鮮明對比,C75並沒有任何配件,除了消音器 which we have already learnt is 100% pointless for this gun. 作為完全沒有價值的垃圾 It doesn't even have access to the laser sight! 它甚至不能裝上雷射瞄準器! Out of all weapons in the game, there are only four that cannot attach the laser sight 在遊戲中所有的武器, 只有四把不能裝上雷射瞄準器 and this is one of them. 而這正正是其中之一。 Things are not looking good for the C75. C75的前程並不樂觀 The two previously existing machine pistols get a good selection of attachments and in 而對於兩把已經實裝的機關手槍, 它們有不少配件可供選擇 terms of recoil control, the most important ones here are the vertical grip and the compensator. 在後坐力控制方面,最重要的配件為 垂直握把和補償器 。 “Ah but Rogue!” “Rouge可是!” I hear you cry out. 我聽見你說了。 “The C75 and the BEARING-9 already have fixed vertical grips attached so they will “C75和BEARING-9已經有了固定的垂直握把, surely have an innate recoil advantage, no?” 所以他們的後座力肯定較低,不是嗎?“ Well, if you compare the baseline recoil patterns of these four weapons, it quickly becomes 好吧,但如果你比較四把槍的基本後座力模型,我們很快就 clear that sadly no, neither of these guns gets any advantage and in fact, the recoil 得知並不是這樣的,這些槍 沒有得到任何好處,而且事實上四把槍 patterns for all four guns are all exactly the same. 的後座力模型都是完全一樣的。 So it all boils down to the attachments and if we compare the best possible recoil patterns 因此我們又回到了配件選擇, 如果我們比較每把槍可以 we can achieve with each gun, we can see that the C75 has no change (because no attachments), 達成的最佳後座力模型,我們可以看到 C75並沒有變化(因為它沒有附件) the Bearing improves a little with the compensator, the vertical grip on the SMG-12 adds even BEARING用補償器改善了一點, SMG-12的垂直握把改善了 more benefit and last and overall best, is the SMG-11 with both the vertical grip and compensator attached. 更多.最後和最佳的是同時裝有垂直握把和補償器的SMG-11。 And before we move on, one final note to make in relation to controllability is that all 在繼續之前,最後一個關於可控性的是除了SMG-11, of these guns, with the exception of the SMG-11, have the option of switching to a single fire 所有槍都可以切換到單發選項 mode, for when you really want to pick your shots. ,如果你真的很想狙擊的話。 Last but not least, before I draw my final conclusions, I think it's worth quickly 最後在總結之前,我想很快的探討 exploring how effective the integral suppressor on the SMG-12 is since in the past, especially 探索一下SMG-12內置消音器的有效程度.在過去,特別是 with the MP5SD and the Six12 SD, we have seen that the pre-attached suppressors in Rainbow MP5SD和Six12 SD,我們看過虹彩六號的內置消音器和 Six Siege are not always as efficient or effective as their detachable counterparts. 它們的可拆卸同行相比有時並不是同樣有效 I've already demonstrated that the incoming fire indicator is hidden with the SMG-12, 我已經示範了SMG-12並不會透過白箭頭警告敵人, so that's a great start but how does the noise suppression compare to the other machine 這是一個很好的開始,但它的噪音和其他 pistols once they have also been suppressed? 被消音的機關手槍相比,又怎樣呢? Here, have a listen! 現在聽聽看! So there you have it, yes the SMG-12 is a touch louder than the other machine pistols 你現在知道了,SMG-12是被其他機關手槍相比吵了一點 but not by a massive amount and I am therefore comfortable 但並不是有太大差別 因此,我輕易 in confirming that this gun is in fact fully suppressed. 確認到這把槍是完全消音的。 Final conclusion time! 最終結論! Compared to a lot of the sidearms and even some of the primary weapons in Rainbow Six Siege, 和虹彩六號裏很多的附武器乃至 主武器比較, the C75 Auto is a great little pistol. C75Auto是一把很棒的小手槍。 High damage per shot up to around 20m, a great capacity and a very respectable fire rate, 到20米為止的高傷害, 高容量和非常可觀的射速, all could have added up to make this gun a favourite choice among the player base. 這些優點相加令它成為玩家們的熱門選擇。 As long as you remember not to attach the suppressor of course, since it currently affects 當然是在沒有附加消音器的前提上,因它目前影響 the C75 more harshly than the in-game stats would suggest, as Serenity17 C75比在遊戲中的數據所指更多 ,就像Serenity17 discovered to his detriment recently 最近發現的 "He's dead" “他死了” "This gun is fun to use. Pretty bad though, it took forever to kill Blackbeard..." “使用這把槍是挺有趣的。但非常糟糕,用來殺Blackbeard的時間太長了......“ … what a n00b. ...你這個菜逼八。(只是開玩笑) The only problem for the C75 is that both characters that can pick the pistol also have 對於C75唯一的問題是,兩名可以使用C75的角色 access to the SMG-12 and summing up the SMG-12 is pretty easy. 亦可以使用SMG-12, 而且SMG-12的控制相對容易。 It is essentially an exact copy of the suppressed SMG-11 (same damage curve, same fire rate 它其實就是一把內置消音的SMG-11(同樣的傷害曲線,同樣射速 and same baseline recoil) except that it has double the magazine capacity, the option of 和相同的後座力),除了它具有 雙倍的彈匣容量,加裝 attaching the angled grip and the choice of a single fire mode. 直角握把的選項和 單發模式。 The fact that the C75 cannot attach any optics and cannot improve its recoil pattern in any C75不能附加任何瞄準器和不能減少後座力的事實 way, means that even if you don't suppress that gun, the SMG-12 is the better choice 意味著即使你把它消音, SMG-12仍然是更好的選擇 in almost all situations and if stealth is important to you, the SMG-12 is hands down 在幾乎所有情況下或如果隱身 對你很重要,遊戲中你可選擇 the best sidearm you can pick in the game. 最好的手槍將會是SMG-12. And that's it, if you want to access any of these stats for your own analysis, there 就是這樣,如果你想分析任何數據 will be a link in the description below to my online spreadsheet which I will be updating 下面的描述欄中的會有到在線電子表格的鏈接,我在未來幾天和幾週 with new stats for Operation White Noise over the coming days and weeks. 將會對白雜訊行動作出更新。 What are your thoughts on the new machine pistols, let me know in the comments below 你對於新的機關手槍上有什麼想法?讓我在下面的留言區知道 and if you liked the video, click the like button, dislike if you disliked it. 如果你喜歡,不妨按個讚.當然不喜歡的話就按個不喜歡。 And with that guys, thank you so much for watching, I hope you enjoyed the video and 就是這樣,謝謝觀看,我希望你喜歡這條影片 I will see you in the next episode! 下次再見!(翻譯:羊時)
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