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  • There are a lot of things that atheists, including myself,

  • say all the time that we really need to stop saying.

  • Special thanks to Vic Wang who inspired this list. You should check out his expanded list below.

  • "I lost my faith".

  • That sounds like is a bad thing.

  • You know, you say you lose something when something bad happens.

  • You say you lose your job,

  • you say you lost your keys.

  • The only time I can think of, when someone says, "I lost something"

  • and you intended as a good thing,

  • is when you say, "I lost my

  • virginity" or "I lost my weight" if you were trying exercise or something, but that's about it.

  • If you say "I lost something",

  • we think, "Oh, that's too bad".

  • So, if you lose your faith,

  • I guess I'm supposed to feel bad for you.

  • But no, atheists say it all the time as a badge of honor, like "I lost my faith".

  • Well, don't say that anymore.

  • Instead of saying, "I lost my faith", say you defeated faith.

  • Say you grew out of faith,

  • say, "I gave up my faith", like you gave up smoking or something.

  • That gets across the same point,

  • but this time there's more of a positive spin on it.

  • "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

  • When someone suggests that faith healing works,

  • or that Jesus came back to life, we may say something like that,

  • "That's a pretty amazing claim, you better have some amazing evidence for it".

  • But the truth is--

  • The problem with faith healing,

  • or anything like that, is not that there's some evidence

  • and just not an overwhelming amount of it,

  • it's that there's no evidence at all.

  • So, when someone makes an extraordinary claim,

  • we don't need extraordinary evidence.

  • We don't even need

  • a good amount of evidence, we need the bare minimum,

  • just a little bit of evidence

  • to understand why you believe this stuff. If you want to say prayer works,

  • just give me a tiny iota of evidence and maybe

  • I'll hear what you have to say and I'll take it seriously.

  • So, this idea that whoever makes an extraordinary claim

  • has to meet some really difficult

  • burden of proof to convince us to believe that stuff;

  • no, they don't need to do that.

  • The problem with them is not that they can't go this height,

  • the problem is they can't even go this low.

  • Like they just need to meet that bare minimum.

  • So, let's stop holding them to

  • unreachable standards.

  • We just want to ask them for the bare minimum.

  • So, extraordinary claims,

  • they don't require extraordinary evidence;

  • they just require a tiny-teeny little bit of evidence.

  • "Everyone is born an atheist".

  • Oh, I hear this all the time about babies,

  • like every baby is born an atheist,

  • and as if that counts for something, as if

  • we ought to include them in our ranks

  • because everyone is born an atheist.

  • Look, it's true, technically is true that babies are not born believing in God

  • or being a Christian, or being a Muslim, or whatever.

  • That is accurate.

  • But to say that they're atheists and

  • as if to say they're on the same category as those of us who have thought about religion,

  • and rejected religion,

  • I think that's an insult to me,

  • because I've actually put thought into this and that's why I'm an atheist.

  • That kid didn't even try.

  • That kid was just born. Why give him credit for all this stuff?

  • It's kind of like saying that babies are politically independent.

  • It's like, "Yeah, I guess he is, but what is that even mean?

  • It doesn't mean anything.

  • You should only give someone a label about this stuff,

  • if they've had a chance to think about it,

  • and then they've come to accept that label.

  • And then it's fine, but let's not call babies atheists

  • as if that has any meaning or if that should count for a point on our side.

  • "We can be good without God"

  • If you think about this, this is a really silly thing for us to say.

  • Because, first of all, is a straw man argument to begin with.

  • No one, including a lot of conservative Christians, no one's ever saying,

  • "Oh, yeah, all atheists are bad immoral awful people".

  • No, even the most conservative Christians out there would say.

  • "Oh yeah, atheists can be really nice people. I know a lot of nice atheists".

  • "I have a best friend who is an atheist."

  • They all seem to have a friend who is an atheist. I don't know how that happens.

  • But they all say, "Yeah, you can be good without God".

  • "No one is arguing that."

  • But, when Christians hear that, it's kind of the equivalent of

  • "I can drive without a seat belt on and I won't get into an accident".

  • And they're thinking,

  • "Well, yeah, you could. You're probably going to be safe."

  • "But you might not. Wouldn't it be better if you just wore the seat belt?"

  • And when we say we can be good without God,

  • they're probably thinking,

  • "Well, yeah, you can be good without God, but

  • why would you want to be?"

  • Or "Why not believe in God? Because it'll make you even better".

  • That's the thought that's going through their head.

  • And obviously that's not what we're intending to say.

  • The truth is the facts speak for themselves.

  • When we say we can be good without God, what we mean to say is

  • in areas where God doesn't exist,

  • the divorce rates are lower, the teen pregnancy rates are lower,

  • people tend to be more educated.

  • Let the facts speak for themselves.

  • "We can be good because we don't believe in God",

  • or something like that would get more to the heart of that point.

  • But when we're saying we can be good without God,

  • a lot of Christians are like, "Well, no one was arguing otherwise".

  • "I trust science, not some 2000-year-old book".

  • There are two problems with saying something like this.

  • The first is it suggests that something big happened 2000 years ago.

  • And whether you want to say, "Oh, Jesus was born approximately 2000 years ago",

  • or "He died and then came back to life. He was resurrected 2000 years ago",

  • I don't think a lot of atheists are suggesting that those things happened.

  • But by saying, you know, "I don't trust a 2000-year-old book",

  • you're suggesting that happened 2000 years ago.

  • And here's the other problem,

  • The Bible wasn't actually written 2000 years ago, it was written

  • over the span of several hundred years.

  • So, by saying it was written 2000 years ago,

  • we're actually granting legitimacy to a book

  • that we intend to debunk and demystify.

  • It completely goes against to what we want to say about the Bible.

  • "You can't reason someone out of something they were never reasoned into in the first place".

  • You hear this sort of statement a lot whenever

  • you're trying to explain why you shouldn't argue with someone like Ken Ham.

  • You can't argue him out of creationism.

  • It's all he's ever known. He just believes it.

  • You can't stop someone from just believing something.

  • Or maybe you're arguing against someone who thinks homosexuality

  • is wrong or immoral.

  • It's like if that's a belief they hold,

  • no logical argument you make is going to convince them to drop their belief.

  • And it makes it sound like the whole effort is futile in the first place.

  • But that's the problem right there.

  • How many of you watching this video right now

  • became an atheist

  • because someone said something to you

  • that convinced you to drop your beliefs?

  • Or maybe you read something in a book,

  • like the "God Delusion", that you were just reading and you're thinking,

  • "I've been wrong this whole time".

  • And you dropped your belief.

  • All the time we are convinced to drop beliefs we've held for a long time

  • because someone convinced us to think otherwise.

  • So, I don't think those debates, those conversations, are futile.

  • They're maybe good reasons for having those conversations, and it's certainly

  • not something we should stop doing.

  • So, when someone says,

  • "Don't argue with them because you can't reason them out of something they were never reasoned into,

  • it's kind of effectively putting a stop sign on the whole conversation.

  • It just says, "Don't do it. Why bother? Nothing is going to help".

  • The truth is it helps and it doesn't-- We all have evidence of it helping all the time.

  • "I don't believe in God".

  • Have you ever heard someone say, "I don't believe in the death penalty?"

  • And the response is like, "Well, that's great,

  • but the death penalty still exists, whether you like it or not".

  • I think what you mean to say is,

  • "I don't think we should use the death penalty", or something like that.

  • That's what a lot of religious people

  • hear when you say, "I don't believe in God".

  • It's like when religious people say, "I don't believe in evolution".

  • It's like,

  • "Who cares? You don't have to believe in it. Evolution is happening, evolution is real,

  • whether you believe in it or not". The evidence is there.

  • So we always tell people, we always correct people and say,

  • "You accept evolution because that's the way it is".

  • Well, when we say, "I don't believe in God", there's a lot of religious people who are thinking,

  • "Who cares that you don't believe in God? God exists. So,

  • whether you choose to believe in him or not is kind of beside the point".

  • Furthermore, saying that I don't believe God exists,

  • it kind of suggests

  • that God does exist but we're choosing to delude ourselves.

  • And that's so far from what we're intending when we say that.

  • So, I think we just need to be more specific.

  • What we need to say is, "I don't believe in the existence

  • of any god or gods".

  • I know that's a little more of a mouthful.

  • That gets the point across

  • in a lot more of straightforward way

  • and there's a lot less room for ambiguity.

  • "Religion doesn't make any sense".

  • You know what doesn't make sense? Quantum mechanics. And you know why? Because,

  • I can tell you, I haven't done the research and even if I were to open up a text book on quantum mechanics,

  • it would just look like gibberish to me.

  • You know, when religious people say to us like,

  • "I don't believe in evolution. I don't understand evolution".

  • "Evolution doesn't make any sense".

  • My first thought when I hear something like that is

  • "Oh, that's because you don't get it".

  • Maybe if you actually understood it, maybe if you read

  • a popular science book, you might actually know what you're talking about.

  • And then this will all make sense to you.

  • So, when an atheist says something like, "Religion doesn't make any sense"

  • or "This religious belief doesn't make any sense",

  • that's what a lot of religious people are hearing.

  • That's what they're thinking. They're thinking, "Well,

  • you just don't understand God. You don't understand theology

  • like we understand theology".

  • So, when we want to say things like creationism

  • or predestination or

  • eternal damnation, doesn't make any sense,

  • a lot of religious people are sitting there thinking, "Well, you just haven't studied it like I have. You don't understand it like I do".

  • And that's ridiculous because

  • I say these religious concepts don't make any sense, not because I don't understand it,

  • but because I understand it really, really well.

  • That's why I'm rejecting it.

  • So, instead of saying, you know, "This religious belief doesn't make any sense",

  • we should say, "This religious belief is illogical,

  • is incoherent. It's contradictory to other religious beliefs".

  • Because those are the points we're really trying to make there.

  • A lot of times atheists say this to Christians,

  • "You can't just pick and choose what you want to believe".

  • I have said this so many times.

  • I've written this so many times. And I really need to stop.

  • Because what it suggests is that being like a cafeteria Christian,

  • where you're only picking certain things from the buffet line, that's a bad idea.

  • But it's not. It's actually, "That's a great thing, I'm glad Christian are doing that".

  • I'm glad they're saying, "You know what?

  • Genesis 1 ad 2, all that stuff about the creation of the universe, young Earth creationism;

  • I tossed that aside".

  • All those laws that say, you know, if you

  • work on the Sabbath, you should be stoned to death. Or if you're gay, you should be stoned to death.

  • No, Jesus overrode all those laws.

  • I'm glad they're doing that, I'm glad they ignore chunks of the Bible.

  • Because I don't want to live in a world where all the real Christians, all the true Christians,

  • are obeying every word of the Bible.

  • And in fact,

  • just about every religious person,

  • no matter their holy book,

  • they all pick and choose the parts of it that they want to follow.

  • We can argue that they're being logically inconsistent,

  • but that's fine, that's a better option

  • than if they were logically consistent.

  • If you ask Christians, "What do you need to believe

  • in order to be a real Christian?"

  • They're not going to say,

  • "You have to accept the Bible as 100% fact".

  • I don't know any Christian that says that.

  • What they all say is you have to believe

  • in the divinity of Jesus, the resurrection of Jesus, that he died for your sins.

  • They'll say something along those lines.

  • And if you accept that,

  • however you deal with the rest of the Bible, they don't care;

  • they ignore you about it, but that's not the bulk of it,

  • it's all about Jesus. So,

  • we shouldn't say you're picking and choosing because

  • we should be happy that they're choosing to do that because

  • it would be a really crazy world if they accepted everything wholeheartedly.

  • There's a reason we shouldn't be elevating this form of fundamentalism

  • to this point where we're saying, "You're only a real Christian if you accept

  • everything the Bible says".

  • That makes it sound like,

  • Ken Ham at the Creation Museum is doing it right.

  • But other Christians like, I don't know, Joel Osteen and

  • president Obama and every progressive Christian out there,

  • they're all doing it wrong.

  • And that makes us look crazy. That makes us look like,

  • I don't know, Fred Phelps and the "God hates fags" people.

  • Yeah, they are the real Christians, but all the rest of you are all,

  • I don't know what you are, but

  • you're all the bad Christians.

  • It makes us look bad when we say something like that.

  • We should be rooting for that side. We shouldn't be rooting for the

  • creationist, you know, "God hates fags" people.

  • Furthermore, we're not really giving Christians an out here, because think about this:

  • if we say you have to a 100% accept everything the Bible says, like Ken Ham,

  • they can do that, but then we're going to call them crazy.

  • Like they're the crazy creationists and they're the ones out there who

  • are just stuck to their book and nothing else.

  • And then, if they pick and choose what to believe,

  • we call them cafeteria Christians. We call them people who are just picking and choosing what to believe.

  • And then we mock them or we criticize them.

  • And if they dismiss just

  • about everything the Bible says and they just stick to, you know what,

  • accept Jesus as divinity, but the rest of it I couldn't care less about,

  • then we're the firsts to say, "You're not real Christians".

  • So, basically, there's nothing a Christian can do

  • that would suffice for us to like them, or for us to not criticize them.

  • We're not giving them an out when we criticize them for being

  • Christians who pick and choose what to believe.

  • My name is Hemant Mehta and I write at FriendlyAtheist.com

  • Please, leave a comment below and we will be sure to check it out.

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