Darryl Anka (Bashar) July 14, 2014

Buddha at the Gas Pump Interview

Welcome to Buddha at the Gas Pump.

My name is Rick Archer and my guest today is Darryl Anka, who channels an entity known

as Bashar.

Well first of all, welcome Darryl thanks for doing this.

Thank you Rick, my pleasure.

Thank you for having me, I really appreciate it.

Yeah well this is gonna be fun.

Those who have been watching this show for some time know that I have a fairly eclectic

understanding, or orientation, towards spirituality.

I feel that the universe is far more vast and diverse, and complex and mysterious than

most of us realize, and that it's all pervaded by Divine intelligence, and that Divine intelligence

has a lot of tricks up it's sleeve [chuckles].

You know, a lot of different ways of enabling people to more fully realize that deep reality.

So I don't rule out much of anything as a valid spiritual path, and I think that people

choose the paths which they feel the most resonance or affinity, and that's cool with

me.

So I feel that the purpose of this show is to expose people to a variety of teachers

and teachings and paths and spiritual orientations, and let them use their own judgment as to

what works for them.

So I say that as, you know, a little bit of an introduction because I know that some of

my audience will think, “Oh, channeling, aliens and all this stuff.

What does this have to do?– I'm into Vedanta.”

And so I'd say, great.

Enjoy Vedanta but Vedanta isn't the only game in town.

And if you happen to resonate with what we're going to talk about today, and I'm sure

many of you will, then that's good.

And if you don't, then I'll do another one next week on a different topic [both laughing].

So Darryl, one thing that when I was listening to your various recordings of Bashar, there's

one in which he distinguished between, I believe it was, skepticism and cynicism.

Yes.

Yeah, I like that one, and correct me if I'm wrong, but he defined skepticism as a sort

of a healthy, open-minded inquisitiveness, which you're free to ask questions that

may arise, but you keep an open mind and you're willing to revise your perspective if new

evidence is presented.

Whereas cynicism is more like a rigidity, or a closed-mindedness, where you feel like

you've got it all figured out, and you reject evidence that clashes with your world-view

as being kooky or erroneous, or fallacious, or whatever.

Yes.

So by that definition, I would consider myself a skeptic - and it's sort of a complimentary

term - and I'll probably be asking some questions that may seem skeptical, but they're

asked in all respect and appreciation for what you do.

Yeah, that's fine.

Yeah, they may be questions that people we're talking to have in their own minds, so we

want to cover them.

So with that introduction, I think this interview will probably breakdown into two main sections,

and there may be sort of, inter-mixture between the two sections, but one will be about your

life.

You know, who you are and how you got into this, and how that whole thing unfolded.

And the other is about Bashar himself and the knowledge that he is bringing forth.

And so those two are intertwined but somewhat separate.

So let's start with the first one first.

As I understand it, you've been doing this for decades now.

30 years.

30 years, yeah, long time.

I know you've covered this in other interviews; there was a great interview on something called

'Waking Universe'.

I really appreciated that one, that guy did a good job.

But since the people listening to this will probably not have listened to that, let's

cover some of the same ground, and maybe I'll ask some different questions.

Sure, absolutely.

So let's start by just, how did this whole thing start?

Well, for me it began back in 1973.

I actually had two, very close, broad daylight UFO sightings here in Los Angeles.

First time, about 150 feet away, the second time, only about 70 feet away.

Both times it was an equilateral, black, triangular ship - about 20 or 30 feet on each side.

Now fortunately I had witnesses with me both times, so I knew I had some collaboration

and some corroboration in that experience – in both those experiences.

But it was those UFO experiences that started me investigating what's this all about?

Because now I'd seen something like that, I knew that the world wasn't exactly as

I had been taught it was, and I needed to find out what was going on.

So in that investigation in the following years – of course back then there weren't

a lot of books on a lot of metaphysical subjects.

So you kind of walk into a bookstore looking for UFO books and books on psychic functioning

or channeling, or things like that, would all be on the same one shelf in the back of

the store.

So I just kind of went down the line and picked up on these different books, and tried to

ascertain if one had anything to do with another.

I became familiar with channeling through the Seth material from Jane Roberts, and I

found it to be…

Hang on just one second before you proceed.

About the UFOs, Los Angeles is a populous place.

I mean, was this broad daylight, did you say?

Both of them were in broad daylight, yes.

I was on the freeway the first time.

We were actually looking around to see if anyone else in any of the other cars, while

we were driving, were looking up at this thing.

Everyone in my car saw it, but I couldn't tell if anyone else was looking up and seeing

this thing.

It was hovering just above and outside of this hotel, which was maybe about 12 stories

tall.

And it didn't make the news or anything?

Well not that I was aware of, although I have subsequently seen more and more reports of

triangular UFOs since that time.

But I think it took about 2 or 3 years after my sighting before I actually heard of another

report of a triangular UFO.

They seem to be pretty rare back then; now they seem to be more and more common.

Ok.

Did you have any spiritual or esoteric tendencies before this, or was that the catalyst that

got you going?

Not really.

That was the really the catalyst.

I mean my family had raised me Catholic.

You know, I didn't really resonate with the idea of

religion in that sense; it was just kind of surreal to me.

And so no, I didn't really have any leanings in any particular spiritual direction, but

this really ignited my curiosity about what was going on.

Ok, good.

And so later on we'll talk a lot more about the UFO phenomenon and all that.

Sure.

But you were about to talk about your exploration and you mentioned you stumbled upon the Seth

material – Jane Roberts.

Yes, yes, and so that gave me some degree of introduction to the idea of channeling.

And 10 years after the UFO sighting, I was actually introduced to a channel who was holding

seminars at the time.

And I went to listen to the information coming through that channel, and after a few months

I thought, it's interesting information, it seems to be constructive, it seems to have

the capacity to help people make positive and constructive choices in their lives.

Now eventually, that entity offered to teach a channeling class.

I went into the class, not because I thought I was going to become a channel; I was just

trying to further my research, 'cause I didn't understand how channeling could be

taught to someone.

My understanding at that point, was that it was just sort of something that happened to

you out of the blue.

But in the class, which was basically a series of guided meditations to put you in touch

with whatever you wanted to get in touch with, be it more creativity, your own higher mind,

or you know, whatever, I received what I can only describe as a telepathic hit.

And in that one instant, an actual memory came back of having made an agreement of doing

this channeling with Bashar, in this life.

In that instant I understood the UFO had been shown to me on purpose, to get me to start

doing the research I was doing so I would be ready by the time it came time to do the

channeling.

And the information in my head was, “Now that you know you made this agreement, now

you know it's time to begin.

Is this something you would still like to do?”

So this is an agreement that you made before your birth?

Yes.

And so maybe that's why the other people on the freeway didn't see the UFO, because

it was really meant for you.

And maybe they couldn't isolate out the other people in your car [chuckling].

And I've heard this happen many times from other people who've reported UFOs.

Sometimes they'll be standing around a group of people, and only 1 or 2 people in the group

will actually be able to see the UFO.

So they may have a way of tuning the frequency to a particular person and making themselves

essentially invisible to anyone who's not on that wavelength.

Hmm.

Maybe the people in your car were somewhat like-minded, you know, more open-minded, higher

consciousness kind of people, or something.

Somewhat, …Sure, well you know, like attracts like.

They were my brother, my sister, a very, very close friend of mine and her brother.

So in a sense we were all family.

Ok good.

So you got this hit.

You realized, “Ooh, I had made an agreement to do this,” and continue.

Yeah, so for a little bit I thought, “Ok, maybe I'm hallucinating here.

Maybe this is just my imagination.

It's a side effect of the meditation we're doing, I don't know.”

But, the instant this actually happened in my head, the entity coming through the teacher

stopped talking to the class and turned to me and said, “There's an entity here for

you, now, if you're ready to begin.”

And at the same moment, I glanced over and noticed that one of the other classmates was

actually, had also, somehow, picked up on this peripherally, what was going on, and

was actually sketching an image of Bashar that I had seen in my head.

So I already had 2 external validations that this wasn't just going on inside me.

So for that reason I decided, “Ok, let's explore this and see what it's all about.”

Ok.

So I went further in the class.

I did well enough that the teacher actually asked me to co-channel the next class with

him.

And after that class, I was introduced to a woman who was doing the first doctoral thesis

on the connection between psychology and channeling, and I became one of her subjects and started

channeling at her house for her friends, while she wrote notes to write her paper.

But the first week you know, it was like 5 friends, and then the second week was 20,

then the third week was 40.

And then we had to start doing it like twice a week, and then renting auditoriums, and

then people would pass the recording around.

And before you know it, I was being invited to different cities, different countries,

and it just took on a life of its own, and here I am 30 years later.

Now I heard you say that you pretty much don't remember, or while it's happening you're

not very cognizant of what's going on.

It's like you're off in some daydream or something.

Yeah, I don't hear the words so much.

It's kind of like if you're really lost in a daydream, and somebody walks in the room

and tries to get your attention.

And they have to call your name 3 times before you actually hear them?

Happens all the time with my wife [laughing].

Exactly!

So it's like that.

It's like the conversation might as well be in the house next door; it's so secondary

and so far away.

I'm paying attention to what I'm experiencing, which is a lot of energy, a lot of imagery,

a lot of feeling, but I'm having my own experience.

And whatever's going on with the translation in my brain, for the person sitting in front

of me, really in a sense is none of my business, so I just don't pay attention to it.

Hmm.

Seems that happens to different degrees with different channels.

Like Edgar Cayce, as I understand it, was really checked out, you k now?

Yes.

Some other channels, if their house was on fire, you'd say, “Hey, your house is on

fire,” they'd get up and jump.

I don't know, maybe you're just wired in different ways.

Yeah but I've also noticed in talked to other channels, observing other channels,

I've noticed a progression, let's say generationally.

I think we, those who choose to channel in this way, are becoming more and more involved.

So it's like, I'm conscious, I know there's something going on, and I could probably stop