字幕列表 影片播放 列印所有字幕 列印翻譯字幕 列印英文字幕 - On this episode, - 在這一集, the legend stops by! 傳奇降臨了! (hip hop music) (hip hop music) You ask questions, 你提出問題, and I answer them! 我幫你解答! This is 這是 The #AskGaryVee Show. The #AskGaryVee Show. Hey everybody, this is Gary Vaynerchuk, 嘿大家,這是Gary Vay-ner-chuk and this is episode 242 你現在收看的是第226集 of The #AskGaryVee Show! 的 #AskGaryVee Show! I mean I don't really know what else to say. 我真的不知道自己應該說什麼了 Legend in the room. 有個傳奇就在我身邊 You know what I really like, Tony? 你知道我喜歡的是什麼嗎?Tony? And I'll just get right into it, 我現在就切入主題了 thank God for your documentary. 幸好你拍了紀錄片 Because people realized that you cursed, 因為人們發覺你也在飆髒話 and that gave me (Tony laughs) 這也讓我 (托尼笑) the air cover. 有了個後盾. People are like, oh Gary it's okay that you curse now. 人們現在都說,喔 Gary 你現在飆髒話也無所謂了 I'm like, phew! 我就鬆了一口氣! Thank God! 感謝上天啊! I was pumped, people are like tweeting like, 我真的很興奮,很多人在Twitter講說 Tony curses like Gary! 托尼和Gary一樣在飆髒話 I'm like, yeah! 我真他媽的高興 - I used to bring you to my talks - 我之前都帶你到我的演講 so that people would feel good about me 因為別人聽到你的分享之後, after listening to you, - Exactly! 會覺得我飆髒話好像還不算什麼, -對啊! - So we're doing the same thing for each other! - 所以我們都在為彼此做一樣的事! - Tony, for the quarter-of-a-person - 托尼,在這裡4分之一的人, that is watching right now on livestream 正在觀賞這直播的人們 and on this show who doesn't know who you are, 和這節目的人們或許不知道你是誰 why don't you give me the one second thing and 不如你就花一點時間介紹自己,然後 obviously, today's a big day! 今天對你來說很明顯是個大日子 New book! You look good in this shot. 新書! 你這張圖真好看. - (laughs) Thanks man. - This is a good one. - (笑) 謝啦兄弟. - 真的很好看. This is pretty quick, your last 你這本書出得真快,你之前 finance book-- - I didn't write a book 寫的財務書— - 我25年以來 for twenty-five years. 都沒寫過書. I like writing books like I like selling my organs 我討厭寫書,我厭惡寫書的程度,就好像要把我的器官 to the black market. 賣到黑市場去. You know, I hate it, but, 你懂的,我討厭寫書,但是 I really wanted to write a book that would protect people 我真的想要寫一本可以保護人們的書 because, you know, we're in the eighth year 因為你知道的我們現在處於牛市 of a bull market, second largest in history. 的第八年,這是歷史第二大的 Everybody knows a crash is coming, 大家都知道市場快要崩盤了 there's all this volatility. 從起伏上是看得出來的 - I like this subject. - But I want to - 我喜歡這議題. - 可是我想要 really protect people but more importantly, 真正的保護人們 可是更重要的是 show them how a crash is 讓他們知道市場崩盤 one of the greatest economic times in your life, 可能是他們人生最好的經濟時期 if you're prepared for it, 前提是你們已經做好了準備 to leap frog from where you are to where you want to be. 從你現在的處境 跳越到你想要的處境 So if you're a millennial out there 所以如果你是個千禧時代的年輕人, and you got all this debt from school still, 即使你現在背著學業貸款,這仍然是個 it's crazy. 很瘋狂的時期. I know how stressful it must be for you. 我知道這對你來說肯定是有壓力的 Bottom line is, you can literally jump during this time. 重點是,這時期可以幫你跳越到你想要的處境 Or if you're a Baby Boomer and you didn't get started 'til 或者你是戰後嬰兒潮那一代的人,你曾經錯過了 way too late and you think it's too late, 進入市場的機會,你覺得已經太遲了 it's not too late in these situations 但是你還沒錯過這次的機會 'cause the corrections provide 因為市場的盤整會 opportunities like never before. 給予你未曾所見的機會 And people just aren't prepared for it, 但是人們就是沒做好準備 so I have a partner named Peter Mallouk. 我有一個夥伴,他的名字叫Peter Mallouk He's been rated, the only man in history rated 他被評為,也是歷史上唯一 the number one financial advisor in the United States 被巴倫週刊連續三年評為 three years in a row by Barron's. 全美第一的財務顧問 Two years in a row by CNBC, and this last year Forbes, 連續兩年被CNBC 去年被福布斯 this year Forbes just came out with their first list 今年福布斯才宣布了它們的初選名單 and he's number one. 他仍然是第一 So I want people to know, I'm his partner 所以我想讓大家知道的是,我是他的夥伴 I'm on his Board of Directors. 我是他董事會的一員 But he has grown his business from nothing in 但重點是,他在2008年時 basically 2008. 白手起家. He grew it to 2 billion 他的企業現在已成長成估值20億的企業 during the worst economic time, 'cause he warned everybody, 這是在經濟最蕭條時所辦到的, 因為他當時警告了大家 there's gonna be a crash. 市場快要崩盤了 Here's what you're gonna do so you don't lose money, 你不想要虧錢的話,你必須這麼做 and here's what you're gonna do so you make 如果你想要在市場崩盤時 more money during the crash than anybody imagined. 賺很多錢的話,你必須這麼做. So with no advertising to 2 billion. 就算沒有大事宣傳的他,也成長到了20億美金 Now he's, when I joined him a year ago, 現在的他, 我在去年加入了他 partners that were 17 billion. 成了他的夥伴,當時我們估值只有170億美金 We're now 23 and a half billion in assets, 現在我們的估值是230億美金,並擁有5億的資產 because this guy knows what he's doing. 因為這傢伙知道自己在做什麼 So I took the best of what I learned from the 所以我把我所學到的精華 50 best investors in the world 從全世界最棒的50名投資者 from Warren Buffet to Ray Dalio 從Warren Buffet 至 Ray Dalio to Carl Icahn. 至Carl Icahn. Shrinked it down into just-- 然後把那些知識濃縮成— - Really, by the way, nice size. - 真的,順便一提,這樣的頁數真好 - Yeah my last one's 670 pages. - 對啊,我上一本書有670頁 - Yeah, different size, right? -對,不同的大小對吧? - My whole focus here is destroy the fear - 我現在所專注的是想要摧毀大家所擁有的恐懼 with real results with a real strategy 利用真正的成績,和可行的策略 and make it a playbook and get people so 把它做成一本戰術集,讓人們可以 they can really win. 開始在投資上賺錢. - For my audience, - 對於我的觀眾 I don't talk about this often but I've mentioned it 我雖然不會常常提起這件事,但是我也有好幾次在 a couple times in the vlog, 我的Vlog提過好幾次, both Wine Library-- Wine Library和— - Yes. - My family business, - 是. -我的家族企業, and VaynerMedia were built out of horrible crashes. 和 VaynerMedia都是在市場崩盤的時候開始的 - Yes. - I got involved - 是. - 我在 99年 in Wine Library full time in '99, 時開始經營Wine Library and just as I started getting going, 然後在我開始不久時, 9/11 happened and the 2000 crash happened, 9/11 發生了,在2000年時市場崩盤了, and VaynerMedia was started in 2009, 然後Vaynermedia是在2009年創辦的, right on the back of all the issues. 這是在市場崩盤尾端所建立的. So, for me, I'm a big fan of this. 所以對我來說,我很喜歡這個議題. And I will say one other tidbit, 然後我想加一點有趣的資訊, there's a lot of youngsters who are watching, 現在有很多觀賞這節目的年輕人, who are on the flipside, 處在另一種情況, are not sitting with debt. 他們沒有債務. Who are making some money being influencers, 透過當網紅也賺了些錢, have found themselves into some quick 50, 然後發現自己很快的賺了50, 100 thou, 100 千, nothing will turn $50,000 dollars in cash 除了市場崩壞之外沒有任何東西 into millions of dollars quicker 可以更快速的把你的50千 than a bust. 變成一百萬. - Yeah that's - 對,那是 absolutely correct. - So let me-- 毫無疑問的. - 所以讓我— - Well a bust that you participate in. (laughs) - 更正確來說應該是你有參與的市場崩盤. (laughs) - Well, right. - You're prepared for it, - 是這樣沒錯. - 你做好了準備, you take advantage of it. - So here's 然後你把握了機會. - 讓我告訴你 something you might find this interesting. 一件很有趣的東西 I am sitting on more cash, 我現在存了很多錢, and not because I've made more. 不是我賺了更多. I am actively sitting on cash right now 我現在很積極的存錢的原因是 because my hope is that there is a meltdown 因為我希望市場近期會崩盤 and I can buy things for 20 cents on the dollar, 這樣的話我就可以用2毛錢買價值一塊錢的東西 5 cents on the dollar-- 5分錢買一塊錢的東西— - How long you been in cash? - 你存了多久? - About a year and a half. - 一年半左右. - Yeah, so, you are a perfect person to chat with - 對,也因為這樣子你和我很適合聊天 'cause I would have had the same mindset before. 因為我之前也有類似的想法 - Yes. - 對. - After interviewing all these people, - 採訪了這麼多人之後 I learned some really interesting facts. 我學到了一些很有趣的事 First of all, trying to time the market-- 第一,你想要預測市場的— - Impossible. - 是件不可能的事. - Yeah, and Warren Buffet said to me, - 對,然後 Warren Buffet 對我說, listen, all these market forecasters you see on CNBC, 聽著,你在CNBC所看到的“預測家”, he said their whole purpose in life is to make 他說他們的人生目標就是要讓 fortune tellers look good. 預言家在市場上更有面子. - Yeah. - No one can do it, - 對. - 預測市場是辦不到的, I can't do it. - That's exactly right. 我做不到. - 毫無疑問. That I know. 這我知道. - So, but, logically you say, - 所以邏輯上你說 I'm waiting for the crash, 'cause it's gonna come. 我在等著市場崩盤因為它即將來臨 But while people are waiting,-- - People are making money. 可是在你等著這個機會時,— - 別人正在賺錢. 100 percent. 完全同意. - Unbelievable amounts of money! - A hundred percent! - 很多很多的錢! - 我完全同意! - 250 percent since 2008. - 從 2008年開始,250 巴仙 . How about just since November 就算我們只看從11月開始好了 with the President, 14 and a half percent, right? 有著大選等事情, 市場也成長了14.5%, 對吧? - So, tell me how I'm doing this wrong or right. - 所以請你告訴我我哪裡做對了 或者哪裡做錯了 What I'm also doing with the rest of my activity, 我除了做我正在做的事情以外 'cause it's not a, 因為它不是, it's a piece of my wealth. 它是我財富的一部分. I'm being ultra-aggressive and driving the other way 我正在很積極得往另一個方向前進 there playing on both sides of the extreme. 同時兩邊都追逐 - I get it, - 我了解, the-- - So not real estate 那個— - 所有不是房地產 or like, yeah. - The whole secret is 或者等之類的. - 它得秘訣是 diversifying, obviously, 很明顯的就是分散風險 and knowing where you're strong and where you're weak. 然後清楚了解你的優勢在那,你的劣勢在那 But what people should know about the market, 然後人們必須了解市場的是 'cause it's really important. 因為這非常重要 The stock market has provided, 股票市場提供了, you and I know a million people that have made 你和我都認識很多人在那賺了 a fortune, and then go broke. 很多錢,但是後來卻破產了 - That's right. - 沒有錯. - Whether it be an athlete-- - 就算他是個運動員— - That's right. - or an actor or anybody - 沒錯. - 演員等之類的 of that nature. - Unlimited people. 那種人. - 多得不可數. - 'Cause, no matter, what's his name right now? - 因為不管怎麼樣, 那個人叫什麼名字? I just saw, 50 Cent just went bankrupt. 我最近才看到, 50 Cent 宣布破產. He made $100 million on Vitamin Water 他在Vitamin Water賺了1億 'cause he got a tip. 因為那時他獲得了提示. He made like $400 million and broke. 他這輩子賺了4億,可是還是破產了. He's about through a divorce, 然後那個即將要離婚的那一位, what's his name, Pirates of the Caribbean? 叫什麼名字, 加勒比海盗? - Johnny Depp? - Johnny Depp! - 约翰尼·德普? - 约翰尼·德普! Made $750 million, three quarters of a billion 賺了7.5億, 只差2.5億就到10億了 and they say he's gonna go bankrupt now. 然後聽說他也快破產了 He spent $30,000 a month on wine. 他每個月都會花3萬塊在紅酒上 So you should've got him-- 所以你應該可以賣他— - I got a couple pieces of that. -我已經賺了他一筆. (Tony laughs) Shh. (Tony 笑) 噓. - But the point of the matter is, - 可是重點是, you don't earn your way to a fortune. 賺錢不會讓你富有. The way you have a fortune long-term is 你想要長期富有的話 you make money your slave. 你必須讓錢變成你的奴隸 You and I have done it through 你和我做到了,透過 multiple businesses, right? - Yes. 很多不同的生意, 對吧? - 對. - But the other way to do it is through the investing. - 可是另一個能達到這目標的方法是投資. And I always tell people, 然後我常告訴別人 how great your business is, 不管你的企業多棒, you should have a money machine on the right side of you 你的身邊一定要有一個可以幫你賺錢的工具 with no employees, with no moving parts, 不用僱用任何人, 不用顧賣任何機器, it takes 15 minutes a year once you know what to do. 當你了解怎麼做時,你一年只需要花個15分鐘. That's what this is. 就是這樣 But let's talk about the market for a second. 讓我們花點時間聊聊這市場 People wait to try to time the market, 很多人都在等待,嘗試預測市場的高低 - Yes. - 對 - So watch this, and first of all, you get a correction - 所以專心聽喔,首先,市場每一年都會 every year. People are overreacting and I tell people 盤整一次. 人們都會過度反應 然後我告訴他們 the market never took a dime from anybody, 市場不會從任何的身上拿走一分錢 only you did that because you got fearful. 是你把那分錢丟了,因為你害怕了. - Yep. - 對. - So last year, since 1900, a hundred and sixteen years, - 所以去年, 從 1900開始, 一百一十六年, we've had an average of one correction a year. 我們平均每一年都有一次的盤整. Correction, by the way for people that don't know, 盤整, 順帶一提 我為那些不知道的人解釋一下, it is when it goes from a market high, you drop 它是當市場到了高峰時,你讓它掉個 by ten percent, up to 19 and 99 percent, 'cause at 10%, 甚至高於 19 至99 %, 因為低於 20 percent or more, it becomes a bear market or crash, okay. 20 %或更多時, 它會變成 熊市或者是崩盤,對. So, we get one of these every year, so last year in 所以我們每一年都會有盤整,去年的 January, worst January in the history of the market,-- 1月, 市場歷史中表現最糟的一月,— - Yep, I remember. - $2.2 trillion meltdown. - 對,我記得. - $2.2 兆的崩盤. - Yep. - People are freaking out. - 對. - 人們都嚇壞了. Market drops 900 points in a day, 市場在一天內掉了900點, All the wealthiest people in the world are at Davos. 全世界最有錢的人都到了達佛斯 They go interview Ray Dalio, the number one, 他們去採訪了 Ray Dalio, 全世界歷史排名第一的, you know, hedge fund in the history of the world. 你懂的, 避險基金 全世界第一喔. - And? - 然後呢? - You know large hedge fund's 15 billion, he's 165 billion, - 你知道大的避險基金都大概值150億, 他的值1650億, you need a $5 billion net worth and a 你需要擁有50億的身價和 $100 million to talk to him. 一億才能和他談 - Yep. - 對. - I got him to share with me, they put him on TV, - 我成功讓他與我分享心得,他也被邀請上了電視 they say, what do we do? Is the end coming? 他們問他說 我們該怎麼辦? 經濟末日要到了嗎? He goes, it's a correction. He said go read Tony Robbins' 他說,這只是盤整. 他說你可以去讀Tony Robbins的 book, I explain the theory of how I've made 85-- 書, 裡面解釋了我如何賺了85— - Did you sell some copies there? - 在那之後你有多賣了幾本書嗎? - I sold a great amount there, but-- - 賣得可多了, 可是— - You're like yes! - 你一定爽翻了吧! - But I got him to give me the answer that has made - 可是我從他那得到了答案,一個在75年 money 85 percent of the time in 75 years, but 都有85%機率賺錢的答案, 可是 here's what you need to know. 80 percent of those 你必須理解的是. 在那種情況的80% corrections never become a bear market. 盤整是不會變成熊市的. They all correct back, just like last year. 它們會調整回來, 就像去年一樣. But if you sold, you lose. - Of course. 可是你在混亂中賣的話,你就虧錢了. - 當然. - But then let's look at the crash. - 現在我們看看市場崩盤吧 Crashes happen every five years on average. 平均來說,市場每5年就會崩盤一次. We've gone eight without one, 我們這8年來都沒有經歷崩盤, that's why we're due for one. - Mhmmm, mhmmm. 所以我們很快就會經歷一次. - 嗯嗯. - And you're right to be somewhat prepared, but while - 所以你現在做好準備是對的, 可是在 you're preparing, there's opportunity that's happening 你準備的同時, 市場上也有很多機會 because, first of all, every bear market lasts 因為, 首先, 每個熊市平均 on average a year. 都會維持一年. Goes down 33 percent, but you don't lose 33 unless you sell-- 它跌33%,可是你只要不賣,你就不會損失33%,— - That's right. - 沒錯. - And here's the one thing I want people to hear, - 然後這是我希望大家可以明白的, in two centuries of American Business, 美國商業的這兩個世紀, every single bear market was followed by a bull market. 隨著熊市而來的是牛市. So you remember 2008, and people lost 50 percent? 你記得2008年時, 人們損失了50%嗎? - This is where-- - 這是在— - It went up 69% the next twelve months. - 接下來的12個月,市場反彈了69%. - This is where Buffett wins. Buffett's got-- - 這是Buffet取勝的時候. Buffett 有— - He always talks about this. - 他常常提起這個. - Buffett is so, it's such a great concept I believe - Buffett 真的很, 這是我一直相信的理念 in it so much, which is, unless you're betting on America 我真的很相信, 就是, 除非你賭美國會在 disappearing, you will win. 這世界上消失, 你就會贏. That's it, that's it, that's the punch line. 就是這樣,就是這樣 這就是重點. - For centuries, and we're gonna keep, by the way, every - 有好幾個世紀, 我們都在持續的, 話說, 平均 month on average we have a new high, so we hear it's high, 每個月 我們都在創新高, 所以我們聽說它上漲了, oh my God it's gonna crash it's high, but let me 天啊 市場快崩盤了它又漲了, 可是讓我給你 give you one more, 'cause it's the timing. 多一個勸告, 因為這都是時機的問題. - Please. - 好的. - And this'll be the payoff for you. - 這會是對你而言最好的回報. Payoff is, I just did the JP Morgan alternative 那就是, 我最近參與了 JP Morgan 在邁亞密舉辦的 investments conference in Miami. You have to be a billionaire 另類投資研討會. 你必須要是個億萬富翁 to attend, to prove it with your net worth. 才能參與, 你必須要用你的身價證明. There's 400 people there. It's an amazing group. 當天有400多個人. 是個很棒的群體. JP Morgan did 20 year study, and Schwab did one JP Morgan 做了個 20 年 的研究, 然後 Schwab 也做了 also, separate. They found that in the last 20 years, 他們是個別研究. 他們發現在近20年, that S&P 500 gave you an 8.2 percent return, S&P 500 每年都會給你8.2%的報酬率, so you're doubling your money every nine years, 所以每九年,你所投下去的金額會翻倍 - Yep, Yep. - 對對. - Pretty cool thing, but what they found was - 很酷的是, 他們發現的是 if you're out of the market on the ten best trading 如果你沒在市場20年以來表現最好 days in 20 years, instead of 8.2, you got 4.5. 的10天參與市場的話, 與其 8.2%, 你只會有 4.5. Almost half as much money. 幾乎是一半了耶. If you miss the top 20 days, trading days, 如果你錯過了市場20年以來表現最好的 in 20 years, one day a year, 20天,一年一次, you're doing what you're doing trying to be the right timing. 你在做你正在做的事,試著預測最好的入場時機 - Yeah, yeah. - 對對. - You got a two percent return, you might as well - 你只有2%的報酬率, 你乾脆 buy bonds. - Makes a ton of sense. 買債券好了. - 很有道理. - If you miss the top 30 days, you lose money. - 如果你錯過了最好的30天, 你就虧錢了. - Makes a ton of sense. - 很有道理. - In 20 years, so the most difficult, the dumbest thing - 20年期間耶, 所以你能做的最難和 you can do is be out of the market, not you,-- 最笨的事 是 脫離市場, 不是說你,— - No, no I get it. - 不不,我理解 - 'cause you can be in the market. - 因為你可以加入市場. - I'm plenty, I'm plenty in the market, - 我很活躍, 我在這市場蠻活躍的, 'cause I believe in it. - Plenty in the market, 因為我相信它. -積極的參與市場, and then also being prepared like you though. 然後同時也做好準備. - So Tony, listen, first of all, one of my favorite - 所以Tony, 聽我說, 第一, 我目前最喜歡 things about you from afar, we get to hang 你的其中一點是,我們很少有 once in a blue moon, random calls here and there, 聊天的時候, 偶爾可能通一下電話, - Yeah. - 對. - But from afar, you know what I love about you? - 可是從遠處觀察, 你知道我最喜歡你什麼嗎? You fuckin' hustle. Like I feel like, the book came 你真他媽的拼命. 就我自己覺得, 你的書 out today, you're freaking everywhere, doing your thing. 今天上市嘛 , 你今天無所不在, 一直在宣傳. That's what you're good at. We have a very 這是你做得很棒的地方. 我們這裡有 large audience, of a, I know what you're doing, 很大的觀眾群, 在, 我知道你在幹嘛, but here we have a real awesome opportunity because 可是在這裡我們有個很棒的機會 因為 I think we're gonna go deep in a narrow field. 我覺得我們可以在一個小的範圍聊得很細. - Yeah. - 對. - So the majority of these people I don't think are -所以我不覺得這裡大多數的觀眾有 looking at the stock market, I even look at the 在注意股市, 這也包括我身邊的 characters here,-- - Yes, I know. I'm looking. 人們,— - 是,我知道 我在看著他們. - They way they're thinking about the stock market, - 他們對於股市的看法和你的, so different, in a world where you might not have 差異很大, 在一個你可能 cash, and where you might have debt, 沒錢,背著債務的世界裡 or if you're not even in debt, you just don't 或者是你可能沒債,但是就是沒有 have a lot of cash, talk to me about somebody 太多的錢, 請告訴我對於 sitting with $10,000, which by the way for a high 一些手上 只有1萬的人們, 順帶一提對我們多數的觀眾, percentage is still a ton. - Correct. 已經是一筆大的數目了. - 對. - But is there anything that, if they have $1500 - 是不是有任何的方式, 如果他們只有1500的話 are they, should they be out of the market? 他們是不是應該選擇不參與股市? Like what are they, like, I know we're going very, 就,他們應該, 就, 我知道我們會聊得非常, very, very micro here but I actually want to bring value. 非常的細 但是 我想要為我的觀眾們帶來價值 - No, I want to do it too. - 不,我也想這麼做. - My payoff is actually bringing value to everybody - 我最佳的回報就是可以為觀看的大家 watching, go ahead. 帶來價值, 請繼續. - I'm of the same, I actually give an example - 我也一樣, 讓我從書中取出 in the book here-- 一些例子— - And then we're gonna take a phone call. - 然後我們就會開始撥電. Get ready phone calls. Chris you ready? 準備撥電了. Chris 你準備好了嗎? - Yeah, so, forget just the $10,000, what matters - 是, 所以, 不管是不是1萬,重要的是 is the system you put in place. 你所運用的系統. The shit you do randomly every now and then 你偶爾隨機因為有錢然後 because you got money is not gonna help you much right? 做的事是不會幫上太多的忙的,對吧? - Especially if it's fuckin' fat whip or a watch. - 尤其是花在美車和手錶上 - (laughs) Yes. - I don't even want to start. - (笑) 對. - 我都懶得說了. - So, number one most important financial decision - 所以對與正在觀看, for everyone watching, everyone in this room, really 和在座的大家,最重要的財物決定是, 說實話的是 we all know you've got to become an owner instead 我們都知道與其當個一直在消費產品的人, of somebody that is constantly, you know, utilizing products. 你必須要成為該產品的所有人. In other words, if you have an iPhone and 換句話說, 如果你有台iPhone的話 然後 you don't own Apple, what's wrong? 你沒有 Apple的所有權, 你錯在那了呢? You're a consumer you're not an owner, 在這情況你是消費者,並不是所有人 - That's cute. - How do you do it? - 不就好棒棒. - 你是怎麼做到的? Every person in this room has got, regardless whether 在這個房間的所有人,不管 you think you have the money or not, to make the most 你覺得自己有沒有那個錢,你都必須要做出 important financial decision which is to be an owner 那最重要的財務決策,那就是當個所有人 I have to take a percentage of my income 我必須要拿我收入的一部分 and then no matter what, off the top, automate it 然後不管發生什麼事,立刻的,讓它成為自動化的 so I don't see it, put that in an investment account. 你不需要看到它,把它存在一個投資戶口 Now what's the number? 我要投入多少金額? You might say I can't, Tony. I'm starting my business, 你可能會說Tony,我不行啊, 我最近開創了自己的事業 I'm strapped, I tell all business owners, example 我已經被綁緊了,我就會告訴那些老闆們,就拿 of a gentleman, true story, Theodore Johnson, 1950's 一個朋友來當例子, 真實故事, Theodore Johnson, 在1950年時 works for UPS. Guy never makes more than 他在 UPS 上班. 他在一年所賺的錢從來沒有 $14,000 in a year. He retires with $71 million, 超過1.4萬 他退休的時候卻有7千1百萬美元, he gives away $35 million while he's still alive. 在他活著的時候它捐出了3千5百萬. - So good. - How is that possible? - 真棒. - 他是怎麼做到的? A friend of his, did what we're teaching. 他有個朋友, 做了我們剛才教的事. Comes to him and says, I'm gonna make you rich. 他朋友走到他面前,跟他說我會幫你賺很多的錢 He goes, I'm not rich, I make 14 grand in a year, right? 他回答說,我很窮耶,我一年才賺1.4萬, 對吧? He says I'm make you rich. I'm gonna put 20 percent 他朋友說我會讓你變得有錢. 我會從你收入抽取20% tax on you. He goes what are you talking about, 的稅. 他回答說 你在說什麼啊, I can't pay my bills as it is. He said listen to me. 我現在都顧不了自己的生活了. 他朋友說,聽著. - Adjust. - 調適. - If the government gave you additional 20 percent tax, - 如果現在政府要你多給20%的稅 you'd bitch, you'd yell, you'd scream, 你會抱怨, 你會喊, 你會叫, and you'd pay it because you'd have to and your brain 可是你最終還是會給,因為你必須給, 還有你的頭腦 adjusts, but that money goes into his investment account, 會調適, 可是現在這筆錢是會進到 你的投資帳戶 the compounding of that account made him $70 million 那帳戶的複利為他賺了 7千萬 and he never made any more than 14 million. 他這輩子都沒賺超過1千4百萬. - Andy, do you have Facebook stock? - Andy, 你有Facebook的股份嗎? - [Andy] Yes. - [Andy] 有. - Because of all the chatter we always have in here? - 是因為我們一直討論它的關係嗎? - [Andy] Yes. - [Andy] 是. - Like that's the punchline, right, like we know - 這就是重點吧, 對嗎, 就好像我們了解 because we live in this world for the last three years-- 因為我們這三年都一直在那領域打混— - Yes. -對. - I've been yelling and Andy will tell you, - 我一直在倡導的,Andy 可以證明, (phone ringing) (電話響) not yet. 還沒. That just buy Facebook. We know Facebook's underpriced. 就是快買Facebook的股份啊. 因為我們知道Facebook的股價是被低估的. That's even narrow. 這是更詳細的. - But, but, but here's what you've got to be careful of, - 可是,可是,可是,你們必須要注意的是 and this is something Ray Dalio taught me, one of the 然後這是 Ray Dalio 教我的, 這世上 smartest men on the face of the Earth, he said Tony 最有智慧的人之一, 他說 Tony I don't care what it is you know, you're gonna invest 我不管你懂的多少, 你會投資在 in what you know 'cause you have certainty, right? 你熟悉的領域 因為 你非常的確定嘛, 對嗎? - Of course. - 當然. - Whatever you know is gonna drop 50-70 percent - 不管你懂什麼,你投資什麼,在你人生中的某個點, sometime in your life,-- 他會掉個 50-70 %-- - That's right. - and he said if it's - 沒錯啊. - 然後他接著說如果這發生 it's later in life, you're completely screwed. 在你生命的後段, 那你就完了. - That's why diversity matters. - 所以分散風險才這麼重要. - That's why a diversification matters. -所以分散投資才那麽的重要. But let me give you, the guys here watching,-- 可是讓我給你們觀眾一個建議,— - But, but let's talk about that for a minute, - 讓我們再花一點時間探討這件事 - Yes. - 是. - And Ray's right, like that's just non-debatable. - Ray說得對, 這是毫無疑問的. - Of course, that's totally undebatable. - 當然, 那是無法質疑的. - That's data, it is interesting to see, where-- - 那是數據分析出來的, 這是非常有趣的, 當— - What I'm saying is, you don't just want to own Facebook, - 我想表達的是,你不可以只買Facebook的股份 and you've got to have across the board because 你必須要延伸自己的投資範疇因為 you say I want the best, I want Facebook, I want Apple,-- 你說我要最棒的 我要Facebook的股份, 我要Apple的股份— - Here's an interesting debate that if you actually - 這裡有個有趣的反駁點,就是如果 knowledgeable about a sector, and you're only putting 如果你很熟悉某一個領域, 然後你每年 $2-4,000 a year to work, 只放個2-4000去投資, that's an interesting debate. 那是個很有趣的反駁. - It's an interesting debate,-- - and by the way, - 這的確是很有趣的論點,— - 然後順帶一提, Netflix and Amazon, yeah. Netflix 和 Amazon, 對. - When you're this young, you can also be more heavily - 當你這麼年輕時,你可以更加在股票 on stocks, you can take more losses 上冒險,因為你還承擔的起啊 'cause you have more time. 因為你有更多的時間. But think of it this way, just go back to compounding 可是從這方向思考的話, 回到複利這邊 as a simple example. 當作一個簡單的例子. Guy in here, I talk about in the book, 19 years old, 我在書中所提到的一個人, 19 歲, dad convinces him to save 300 bucks a month, 他爸說服他每個月都存個300塊, 4,000 bucks a year, so it's within the range of 一年就大概存個4000塊, 就大概在這範圍內 anybody here you're talking about, right? 這是大家都能做到的吧,對吧? - Yep. - 對. - Guy starts at 19, stops doing it at 28. - 這個人19歲開始, 28歲停止. He only puts in 35 grand. 他只存到了3.5萬. He puts it in the market and the market's grown 他把這筆錢投入了市場,然後市場在這 10 percent over 30 years, but let's use eight percent 30年成長了10%, 可是我們就算8%吧 to be more conservative. 保守估計的話. Last 20 years have been more eight percent. 在最後的20年可能多過8% At eight percent, that will grow to 941,000 可是就算在8%, 他的錢也會成長至941千 without another dime. 沒有再投入一分錢喔. He'll have a million bucks off of $50,000. 他只差5萬,就能有1百萬了 - You're preaching. - 你說得對. - But on the other hand, his best friend waits 'til - 可是另一方面, 他的朋友等到 he's 29, he does the same thing but he has to keep 29歲時才做同一件事, 可是他必須要 investing to 65. 投資到他65歲為止. He puts in almost 980 grand, he doesn't 他幾乎投入了98萬,可是他就是賺不到 get the million bucks. 那100萬. - Yeah the math is the math. - You gotta get in. - 對,事實就是這樣子. - 你必須要參與市場. - You gotta get in. - Alright, you got something? - 你必須要參與市場. - 好的, 你找到了人嗎? Go ahead. 繼續吧. So, you're inspired now? 所以你受到啟發了嗎? - By the way, I wanna tell everybody by the way. - 順帶一提, 我想要告訴大家. I wanna tell you guys by the way. 順帶一提, 我想要告訴大家. - You're gonna remember this interview your whole life. - 你這輩子都會記得這一次的採訪. Let's go. 我們開始吧. - I want to tell you by the way, for everybody watching, - 我想要告訴正在觀看的大家, this book, my last book, I donated 100 percent 這本書, 我上一本書, 我把全部的 of the profits, five million bucks. 利潤都捐出去了, 5百萬. I'm doing the same thing with this one. 這本也是一樣. We fed 100 million people between my donation 透過這個捐款和我私下再捐的錢 and the additional donations I made in 2015. 我們在2015年為1億個人提供了餐點. 100 million people last year through my 去年透過我和Feeding America partnership Feeding America. 的合作我們為1億個人提供了餐點. We're gonna be 100 million people, 我們今年的目標也是1億 100 percent of this goes to that. 這本書的所有利潤也會被捐贈到那. We're gonna feed a billion people over the 給你們一個大概的數字,我們在接下來的 next seven years to give you an idea. 七年會為10億個人提供餐點. It's pretty cool. 這蠻酷的. It's pretty cool, and it's all coming from the book. 這蠻酷的, 然後他是由這本書的利潤去贊助的. - While Chris is trying to figure out how to dial a phone, - 在 Chris去思考如何撥電的同時, (Tony laughs) (Tony 笑) Talk to me real quick about the Netflix documentary impact. 簡短的告訴我Netflix紀錄片為你帶來的影響吧. I try to trade culture and attention. 我試著交易文化和人們的注意力 - Yes. - 是. - I could taste it in the ecosystem. - 我可以在這生態中嚐到那滋味. You've been a known brand for decades. 你在這十年已經是個知名品牌. Where does that, what was the impact of that documentary? 那紀錄片為你帶來的影響有什麼呢? - Huge, it was huge because it's taken, - 很大的影響, 有很大的影響 因為它是在, I decided to put it on Netflix 'cause it immediately 我決定把它放在Netflix 因為它會直接 put me in 172 countries, and they translated it 把我的紀錄片傳達到172個國家, 然後它們也幫我把我的翻譯 for all those languages. - Huge. 至那172個國家的語言. - 很棒 - So the level of distribution. - Global. - 所以它如何分布? - 全球. - And it's free, you're already there, people are - 加上它是免費的,人們已經在那了,人們已經 already in Netflix, and it got five stars and 在使用Netflix, 它也獲得了5星評價 然後 it took off like crazy so the concentrate, 然後它也爆紅了所以我想強調的是, you know I went to the fight with Diaz versus. 你知道我之前去了Diaz的那場比賽. Oh there you go. - There we go. 喔,終於通了 -終於通了 - I went to the UFC fight, and it's like... - 我去了那場UFC比賽, 然後他給我的感覺是... - We'll pick it up. - 我們待會繼續. - All these young guys coming up to me. - 很多年輕人都走向我. - Yep. - 對. - That normally wouldn't know that are like... - 那些通常不認識我的人竟然… - This is Gary Vaynerchuk and you're on - 這是Gary Vaynerchuk 然後你現在 The #AskGaryVee Show with Tony Robbins. 和Tony Robbins上著The #AskGaryVee Show What's your name and are you excited? 你叫什麼名字?還有你興奮嗎? - [Brandon] Holy shit. - [Brandon] 天啊. (Gary laughs) (Gary 笑) I'm so excited, I'm a huge 我超興奮的, 我是你們倆 fan of both of you guys, this is absolutely incredible. 很大的粉絲,這真的太棒了. My name is Brandon Dendiff 我的名字是Brandon Dendiff and I'm coming from Denver, Colorado. 然後我來自丹佛 科羅拉多州. - Love it man, what's your question? - 很棒啊朋友, 你的問題是什麼? - [Brandon] So it's a little bit off topic. - [Brandon] 這有可能不符合主題. - That's okay. - 沒關係. - [Brandon] I know you guys were talking about the market... - [Brandon] 我知道妳們剛才在聊著有關市場的事... - We adjust. - 我們可以調整. - [Brandon] But, both of you are - [Brandon] 可是你們倆 huge advocates for gratitude 一直在倡導感恩 and that kind of, you know, delivers your energy 然後哪種,就好像,你們一直在傳達你們的正能量 and how you guys interact with everyone. 然後你們如何和每個人互動 - The world. - 和世上. - [Brandon] Especially you Gary on social media, - [Brandon] 尤其是Gary在社群媒體所做的, stuff like that. 類似的東西. So, my question for you is, how do you become-- 所以我的問題是你是如何做到— - Grateful? - 感恩嗎? - [Brandon] So grateful yeah, exactly. - [Brandon] 如此的感恩, 沒錯. To have this energy, especially from Tony's position 如何擁有這份能量, 尤其是站在Tony的立場 of just like, I dove into your documentary on Netflix, 就好比說,我看了你在Netflix的紀錄片 and that was actually the first time I was exposed to you. 那其實也是我第一次接觸你的東西 Actually my father, who owns an independent agency 其實我爸,他正在康乃狄克 in Connecticut, very successful. 經營一個獨立機關,非常的成功. He quoted you as a huge inspiration so, I kind of dove 他說你啟發了他,所以我就接觸了 into your content, and fell into kind of your hands 你分享的東西,然後就好像跌入你的手掌心 and your guidance so. 獲得了你的指導,所以 - They're big ass hands too, by the way. -順帶一提,你的手可大了. Jesus. 天啊. Well listen, thank you for the question, Tony? 聽好了, 謝謝你的問題, Tony? - The question is, how do you create the gratitude? - 你的問題是, 如何製造那份感恩的心態嗎? I'm not quite clear on the question. 我不是很了解你問的問題. - Yeah, how do you? - 是的,你是怎麼? Go ahead. 請繼續. - [Brandon] Well, how do you become so grateful, - [Brandon] 就是, 你是如何這麼的感恩, and because of that, you live a life of... 然後也因為這樣, 你可以過個很棒的人生... - I think this is, actually, this is a great first question - 我覺得這是, 說實話, 這是很棒的第一個問題 Brett, thank you so much because I actually think Brett, 非常感謝你 因為我真的覺得 he nailed it, which is, I actually think he's right. 你做得很棒, 因為, 我覺得他是對的. Like, in what I see in you and from others like, 比方說, 我從你和其他人所看到的是 gratitude, it's incredible what gratitude does. 感恩, 而這份心給予的回報都是驚人的 - Well the two things that mess everybody up - 基本上通常會搞慘大家的兩件事 are anger and fear. 是憤怒與恐懼. When you let them dominate you, you're in trouble. 當你讓這兩個情緒控制你時,你就糟了 And you can't be angry and grateful simultaneously. 你不可能同時抱著感恩的心同時生氣著 - Nope. - It's the antidote. -不可能. - 它是個解藥. It's the only attitude that really works. 它是唯一有效面對世界的態度. And you can't be fearful and grateful simultaneously. 你也不可能同時抱著感恩的心同時害怕著 So for me, the answer to his question, 所以對我來說,我的答案是 I don't hope I'm gonna be grateful. 我不希望我會嘗試感到感恩. I have a system, like anything in life I, you know, 我有個系統,就像生活上的任何一件事,就好像 if you're a great pilot, you know how to fly a jet, 你如果是個很有才的飛機師, 你懂得如何開飛機 you still have a checklist 'cause if you miss 但是你還是會有個需要注意的事項,因為如果你忘了 the checklist the consequences are too big. 那些該注意的事,後果就糟了 So I'm not a big meditator. 我不是一個很常冥想的人 My meditations have been active, it's been physical, 我的冥想是動態的,實體的 it's been in nature, it's been ripping things open. 它是自然的,它是透過揭露自己的 It's being on stage. 它是我上台時獲得的. But I started a few years ago doing what I call priming. 但是我在這幾年開始了一個我稱它為促進的過程 And what priming is is most people think their 促進是,多數人們都認為他們的想法 thoughts are their thoughts. When really your thoughts 是他們的想法. 可是你的想法其實是 have been primed by the environment. 被環境促進或刺激的. That's why you want to create the environments 也是因為這樣你必須去製造出那環境 like you create and I create 'cause it makes you be 就像你和我在做的一樣 因為它讓你做 your best, but specifically there's a study where they 最好的自己, 可是明確的是 之前有份研究,他們 took a group of actors. They had 'em go out to 200 請了一班演員 他們要求他們去找200 people and the only thing different they walked up 個人然後他們走到了那些人的面前,這過程中他們之間唯一不同的地方是, to each person, and the only different was they held a 唯一不同的地方是他們手上都拿著 cup of coffee. They walked up to you a stranger and go, 一杯咖啡. 他們走到了陌生人的面前然後說 would you hold this for a sec? 你可以幫我拿這一下嗎? And they'd look down so you can't say yes or no, 然後他們就低頭往下看,這樣 你就不能說好或說不, and you'd end up taking it. 然後你最終還是拿著那杯咖啡了. They get their phone, they adjust it, they take it back 他們拿了他們的手機,調整一下,拿回了咖啡 and say thank you. 然後和他們道謝. That's the whole thing. 這就是整個過程. Same facial expression for every person. 每個人的臉部表情都是一樣的. Only difference, half got an iced coffee, 唯一的差別是, 一半拿的是冰的咖啡, the other got hot coffee. 另一半則是熱的咖啡. Now, 30 minutes go by, they send out an assistant, 接著,30分鐘後 , 他們派出了一位助理, a research assistant with a clipboard and they come up 一位研究助理,他手上拿著一個本子,然後他們走到 to these same individuals and say, 剛才拿咖啡的人面前,然後說, if you give us two minutes of your time 如果你可以借我們2分鐘的話 we'll give you 20 dollars. 我們會給你20塊. Will you just read these three paragraphs, 你可不可以讀這三段句子 and tell us what you think of this character. 然後告訴我們你覺得這角色是個怎麼樣的人. Couple questions. 問了幾個問題. They read the three paragraphs and they say, 他們讀了那三段句子然後說, what do you think of the main character 你覺得這主角是個怎麼樣的人 in this little story? 在這個故事裡面? 81 percent that were given ice coffee say the person 剛剛拿著冰咖啡的人,有81%回答說這角色 is cold and uncaring. 有點冷酷,無情. 80 percent, a one percent variance, of those who are 80 %, 裡面僅有1%的差異, 那些拿著 hot coffee said the person is warm and connected and caring. 熱咖啡的人說這個角色聽起來很溫暖,很貼心, 感覺似乎彼此相連著 With nothing else but coffee 30 minutes earlier ice cold. 除了咖啡以外就沒有差異了, 30 分鐘前的咖啡就決定了一切. I can tell you 50 of these. So what I do, 我可以給你50個類似的例子. 所以我平常做的是, is I get up every morning and I make a radical change 我每早起來,我就把我的精神狀態做一個 in my state, and I have a simple deal with myself. 極端的改變,然後我和自己做個簡單的約定 I prime for 10 minutes every day. 我每天會花10分鐘促進自己 'Cause if you don't have 10 minutes, 如果你連10分鐘都抽不出來的話 you don't have a life. - Hundred percent. 你的人生不能稱作人生. - 百分百贊同. - No excuse. - 沒有藉口. So I come in, I do this radical breathing change. 所以我進去了,然後改變了我的呼吸頻率 These three sets of 30 breaths where I bring the 我做了3次的 30下的呼吸 我深深的吸 air in and explode it out my nose 'cause, 了一口氣 然後從我的鼻子呼出 因為, I'm sure you know from Eastern philosophy, 我相信你對東方哲學有稍微的認識, the breath is like the string on a kite. 你的呼吸就像是風箏的線一樣 The mind is the kite. - Yep. 你的思緒就像是風箏一樣. - 對. - You can change the mind through breath. - 你可以透過呼吸改變思緒 - Yep. - 對. - So I do this radical breathing, takes a minute. - 所以我做了這強烈的呼吸, 只需花個一分鐘. - Then I do three things for three minutes, really simple. - 然後我在這三分鐘做了一件事, 非常簡單. I take three minutes and I focus on 我花三分鐘,並專注在 three specific individual things that I'm grateful for 我非常感謝的三個人 but I don't think about intellectually. 可是我不是指智性上的 I step into the moment. Remember it, feel it. 我就進到了那境界. 記得它, 感受它. What does is it activates it not as a thought 它說做的是他啟動了,不是你的思緒 but as a biochemistry. 可是是一種生物化學的成分. Then I do three minutes of prayer and blessings, 然後我花三分鐘祈禱,祈福, starting with my family and moving out to everybody, 從我家人開始,然後延續到其他人 my clients, friends, people I meet. 我的客戶, 朋友, 我認識的人. And then I do three minutes on what I call three to thrive 然後我再花三分鐘做 我稱為三興盛的階段 where I focus on three important outcomes that I have, 在那時我會專注在我這輩子最重要的和想要達到的 that I wanna accomplish but I don't think about 三個成果 可是我不會專注在 want to accomplish it. I see it, I feel it, 多麼想達成它們. 我試著看見它們, 試著感受它們, I experience it and then I feel grateful. 我體驗到了,然後我就感到感恩. - That's your move. - 這是你的作法吧 - I actually go 15 or 20 minutes 'cause it feels so good, - I actually go 15 or 20 我有時甚至會花個15-20分鐘做這件事,因為它感覺超棒的 but what's happened is now you're primed. 可是你促進之後感覺如何 You're not hoping you're in prime time, 你不是希望自己處於在那狀態 you are in prime time. 你就是在那狀態. And to me, that's how I do it. 對我而言,這是適用於我的方式 Once you've primed yourself, you start noticing 當你促進了自己,你會開始常常發現 things to be grateful for all the time. 值得你感恩的事 When I asked Sir John Templeton, 當我問John Templeton伯爵時, one of the first billionaire investors, 最早期的億萬富翁投資者之一, international investor in the whole world. 這世上的國際級投資者. Started with nothing, built it up. 白手起家, 慢慢經營,做大. When I asked him, I said, "What's the secret to wealth?" 當我問他時, 我說, “通往財富的秘訣是什麼?” I'll never forget, he looked at me and smiled 我永遠都不會忘記,他看了我,笑著說 and said, "Tony, what do you teach?" "Tony, 你在教什麼?” I said, "Well, I teach a lot of things, which thing?" 我回答說, “我教很多事,你指的是哪一樣呢?” And he goes, "Gratitude." 然後他說, “感恩.” How many billionaires do you and I know 你和我認識這麼多億萬富翁,其中有多少 that are miserable human beings and they're so unhappy. 是很可憐的,因為他們永遠都不開心. He said, "They're poor." 他說, “他們很窮.” If you've got a billion dollars but you're frustrated 如果你有10億但是你常常抱有沮喪 and angry and sad all the time, 憤怒,悲傷的心情, your life is frustrating, angry and sad. 你的人生就是沮喪,憤怒,悲傷的. How many people have nothing but they're grateful 有多少人一無所有但是卻感恩自己擁有 for their family or their health or there, there. 家人與健康 等等的東西. That is the game, it really is. 就只是這樣, 只是這樣. - To me, it comes down to its cousin which is perspective. - 對我來說,它的答案有點類似,那就是看法. - Yes. - 對. - So I do something very similar every single day. - 所以我每天都做和你所做類似的事情 I make pretend that my mother, dad, sister, brother, 我每天都會假想我的媽媽,爸爸,妹妹,弟弟 wife or children are killed. 老婆或孩子死了 Now, I know this is a different version of it. 我知道這和你的版本不太一樣 (Tony laughs) (Tony 笑) I know, you didn't expect that one? 我知道, 你沒有預料到我會這樣吧? - I love you crazy son of a bitch. - 我超愛你的,你這個瘋子. (group laughter) (大家笑) - I know it's a little different. - 我知道這有點不同. - Yes, they get stabbed in the eye, - 對, 別人捅了他們的眼睛 and then they take out the groin. 然後拉到腹股那邊拉出. - Yes, it's sometimes even in detail - 對, 有時我會想得很仔細 but I will tell you, it's very fleeting. 可是我能告訴你的是它很短暫 It usually happens within-- - It'll make you grateful 它可能只發生個幾秒— - 但是它讓你感恩說 for them still being here (laughs). 他們還在這世上 (笑). - But I promise you, I know it's a little left field. - 可是我能答應你, 我知道這有點偏激 It's insane what that perspective does me. 這事情為我帶來的改觀的影響可大了. Nothing, and I feel it. 沒有比這,我感覺得到. - Well, it's contrast. - And I feel it. -他是個對比. -我深深的感覺得到 - I get it. - I feel it in my soul. -我了解 - 我的靈魂深深的感覺得到. - Contrast works. - 對比是有效的. - It just makes every bad thing, - 它讓每件不好的事 and by the way, I'm sure for your business, 然後我很確定你在生意上 when you're the last line of defense. 當你是最後一道防線時 You know how they say occupation on the doctor form? 你知道你去看醫生時他們會要求你寫下你的職業 The last time I filled it out I said firefighter. 我上一次填寫的時候,我寫消防員 (Tony laughs) (Tony 笑) Because that's what I think I do for a living. 因為那是我為了謀生而做的事 It's just problems. 每天都有問題發生 When I get done with this interview and 當我們結束了這採訪然後 I'm gonna look at my phone, 我會拿起我的手機, seven problems, seven fires to put out. 7個問題, 我要去滅7個火災. That's what I do. 這是我在做的事 For me, it's perspective. 對我來說, 只是角度的問題 I don't understand how people don't get 我不明白為什麼人們不了解 that there's seven plus billion people, 這世界上有70多億的人口, that there's so many people that have it worse than you. 然後有很多人都比你來得更慘 - If you live in this country, - 如果你在這國家生活著 you know, I feed 100 million people a year, I care. 比方說, 我每年都會為1億個人提供食物 我在乎. But if you live in poverty in this country, 但是如果你在這國家過著貧窮的生活 you're the one percent. 你是少數的1%. You're not the 99 percent. - I know! 你不是多數的99%. - 我知道! - Two thirds of the planet lives - 這世界有2/3的人每天 on $2.50 a day, $900 a year. 只花2塊半過生活,一年只花900塊 If you're making $18,000 a year, 如果你一年賺個1.8萬 I don't want you to make $18,000, 我不希望你只賺1.8萬 but you've gotta start with gratitude 可是你必須要懂得感恩 that you're one of the richest humans on earth. 因為你是地球上算是有錢的 - You're preaching. - It doesn't feel like it, - 很有道理. - 你可能覺得不是, but you are. - Preaching. 可是你是. - 沒有錯. DRock, don't produce the show. DRock, 不要做那個節目. Hello, this is Gary Vaynerchuk 你好, 這是 Gary Vaynerchuk and you're on The #AskGaryVee Show. 然後你現在上了 The #AskGaryVee Show. - [Miguel] No, there's no fucking way - [Miguel] 不, 這不可能吧 I have this luck (laughs). 我怎麼可能那麼幸運(笑). - (laughs) You're on man! - (笑) 你上了節目喔老兄! What's your name, where are you from? 你叫什麼名字, 來自那裡? - [Miguel] I'm Miguel. I'm from Los Angeles, California. - [Miguel] 我是Miguel. 我來自 洛杉机,加利福尼亚洲. - Awesome, Miguel, what can we help you with? - 好喔, Miguel, 我們能怎麼樣幫你呢? - [Miguel] Okay, so, God damn, hold on. - [Miguel] 好的, 天啊, 等我一下. (Gary laughs) (Gary 笑) (laughs) Alright, so, (笑) 好的, 所以, I'm 20 years old. 我今年20歲 I'm in college right now. 現在在念大學 I'm in my junior year, the hours are really crazy 我現在是大一生, 上課時間多得可怕 'cause I'm going to school for game design. 因為我上的是遊戲設計. That's what I really wanna do. 那是我真正想做的事. - Okay. - 好的. - [Miguel] I really want to be able to - [Miguel] 我真的很想要可以 just purchase my own games studio. 買我自己的遊戲工作室. - Okay. - 好的. - [Miguel] I also work part time, - [Miguel] 我現在也有兼職, I just started a marketing business 最近才開始了一個行銷生意 to try and bring more money in 試著利用這個賺點錢 but this is the first business thing I've ever done 但是這是我第一次做的生意 and I'm trying to start my own gaming YouTube channel 然後我也嘗試建立自己的Youtube遊戲頻道 just to get my name more out there 想打響我的名聲 and learn basically how to get my own following 然後學習如何獲得追蹤 and become an influencer for video games myself. 然後怎麼在遊戲領域當個有影響力的人 - Okay. - 好的. - [Miguel] My question is, - [Miguel] 我的問題是, how do you know whether or not 你怎麼知道自己是不是 you're trying to basically take too much on-- 自己是不是扛得太多— - Right, are you stretching yourself thin? - 是的,好像同時做太多事情嗎? Yeah. - [Miguel] Yeah, yeah, yeah. 嗯? - [Miguel] 對對對. Like, I wanna know-- 我想知道的是— - I got it, Miguel. - 我了解了, Miguel. - [Miguel] How do you know when you get to that point? - [Miguel] 你怎麼確定說自己做得太多了? - I got it. - 了解. Tony, this is such a classic question Tony, 這是一個對很多企業家來說 for a lot of entrepreneurs. 都會遇到的問題 You've done it, I've done it. We've lived our lives. 你經歷過了,我經歷過了 我們都經歷過那段時期 You know, where does doing a lot of different things 你知道在什麼時候做很多事 to see if there's upside in it, 去看說這件事是否有那個好處 which all my great things have come from. 這也是我很多好的事情發生的原因 - Me too. - 我也是. - Stop, and where does it start to, - 停下,然後什麼時候去思考說 you're taking on too much and now you're trying to do 你扛下了太多 然後你現在一個人要做很多事 everything which means you're doing nothing. 你什麼都得做結果造成你什麼都做不成. - First of all-- - 首先呢— - Thanks for the call, Miguel. - Thank you for the question. - Miguel感謝你的來電. - 感謝你的提問. Most people who start a business, very often, 多數人在創業時,經常 will start two, three, four more 都會再做個 2,3,4樣不同的生意 and the reason they do it is because the first one 因為他們認為當第一個 isn't succeeding or they no longer 看不到成績時 或者他們不再 have juice for it. - They lack patience. 對那有興趣,或熱情時. - 他們缺乏耐性. - Exactly right, and so what happens to that person - 沒錯,然後通常這個人呢 is they're never gonna successful in most cases, 在多數的情況都不會成功, unless they get lucky. 除非他們走運了. - Yeah. - You can get lucky, - 對. - 你有時候就是走運了, bounce across something that's easier to do. 可能看到一個比較易做的生意. But most people are always looking for that next level. 可是很多人都嘗試跨到更高的境界去 What my view is is it's great to test all these things 我的看法是,嘗試多樣事情是好的 but you've gotta find, what is your flagship? 可是你必須要找到你的主力是什麼 What is it that you're gonna commit your soul to? 你願意不顧一切做的是什麼? Because if you don't do that, 因為如果你不這麼做的話 the inevitable challenges are gonna come up 不可避免的,你會遇到一些挫折 and you're gonna then move on to something else 然後你會逃避到另一樣東西去 that's more enjoyable. - [Gary] 100 percent. 一個更愉快的地方. - [Gary] 完全同意. - And so, the other thing I look at is, - 所以我會看這生意的另一樣事情是 business is about constantly, not only adding 它是不是固定性的,不只是增加 such massive value, doing more for others than anybody else, 它為人帶來的價值, 比其他人為你的客戶做得更多 but it's also simultaneously about your own psychology. 可是同時我也會看你自己的心理狀態 It's your ability to go through thresholds of control. 你是否有那個能力控制這一切 It's like, I can remember when I didn't have $50,000 就好像,我都不記得我身上連5萬塊都沒有 to keep the doors open on my company. 讓我公司能保持運作的時候. I had 12 employees and 11 wanted to quit 我有12個員工,但是有11個吵著要離職 'cause they hated the person running the show. 因為他們討厭掌管這一切的人 And $50,000 would be like 500 million to me today. 然後這五萬對今天的我來說就是5億 And I figured out how to get through that threshold, 然後我會想辦法跨越這門檻 and once I did, all the problems 然後當我做到時,所有 related to that were handled. 有關那件事的問題就解決了 I know you've done this as well. 我知道你也解決了這件事 And then I had a $5 million lawsuit, 然後我吃了一張5百萬的官司 it was totally unfair and unjust, 它是不正的,不公平的 and I finally had to just, 然候我那時才終於有那個 the amount of the time, energy and money, 時間,精力和金錢, I had to bite the bullet and five million 然後我那時必須咬牙撐過,5百萬 was more than I could remember. 對當時的我來說是個很大的數字. Then I got a partner who took a company 然後我找了一個夥伴 然後他將一家公司 that was losing a million dollars a day 一家每天虧損一百萬的公司 and turned it into 1.5 billion in positive EBITDA. 把他轉化成一個正15億調整後淨現金盈利的公司 I'm not mentioning names, Amway. 我不會說是那家公司, Amway. (laughter) (笑聲) And he wanted me to join him in business 然後他想要我加入他的企業 with some other partners, not doing the multi level side. 和一群夥伴們,不是當他的線下人 Did the business, put in 10 million bucks, 我答應了他, 投資了1千萬, we all put in 10 million, it was 40 million of debt, 我們全部投資了1千萬, 當時那家公司的欠債是4千萬, but I signed joint and several, 可是我簽了聯合合約 和一些, which I didn't understand in those days what that meant. 我到現在都不知道是什麼的合約. Two of my partners were supposedly 我當時的兩個夥伴,原本應該是 billionaires and they went broke. 億萬富翁 可是他們破產了. We bought some more companies. 我們買下更多的公司. I end up with $120 million in debt 然後我當時欠下了1.2億的債務 that I was on the hook for. 我不小心掉入了他們的圈套. No one else had any money, 當時沒有人有那筆錢, and I'm getting up to do a seminar wanting to throw up. 然後我當時剛起身正準備要去一場研討會,當時我超想吐的 It was a new threshold of control. 這又是一個門檻 So you know when you ski or you snowboard, 你知道當你滑雪的時候 and you think you're maybe, just new at it, 你可能自己是個初學者 and you think you're going down a blue or green 然後你以為自己在藍區或綠區滑行 and turns out to be a double black 可是事實上你在雙黑區滑行 ( Gary laughs) and you're like, what the fuck?! ( Gary 笑) 然後你就覺得 他媽的見鬼了?! - Yeah. - Right? And so you have - 對. - 是吧? 那時的你只有 two choices, one is you start to go down and 兩個選擇, 第一是你可以滑下去 然後 you freak out and you're gonna die, 你緊張錯亂了 然後你就這樣死了, you slam on the ground and try to hang on for dear life. 你重重的甩在地上,盡你的全力活著 Or the other is, baby you focus on where you wanna go 或者是, 你專注在你想要去的地方 - And go. - And you find a way to curve. - 然後 去. - 然後你想辦法轉個彎. You find a way to cut. 你想辦法切. And once you do it, a couple of times,-- 然後當你開始做時, 做個幾次時,— - You get used to it. - 你就習慣了. - You have no more fear of that element, - 你就不會對那件事抱有恐懼, now my biggest one, out of that, 然後我從那獲得最大的收穫 that led me to a billion. 讓我賺取10億的收穫是 I have 31 companies now to give you an idea. 給你個基本的概念,我現在擁有31家公司 Seven different industries, as diverse as 7個不同的產業,從 stem cells to virtual reality. 幹細胞至虛擬實境 We have the exclusive to the NBA now, 我們現在為NBA提供 in virtual reality to give an example. 虛擬實境的體驗 舉個例子. We got 1200 employees, we're on three continents, 我們現在有1200個員工, 跨越3個大陸都有據點, and we got $5 billion dollars in sales. 我們的營業額是50億. But I did that because I first stayed on 可是我做到的原因,是因為我堅持 one freakin' thing and 在那瘋狂的事上 I got so masterful at it. 我完全掌握了那技巧. The way I look at it, I'll give you one more metaphor. 我的看法是, 我再給你一個例子好了. You're probably not old enough to remember this 你可能還沒老到會記得這件事 but I'm old enough to remember-- - I'm pretty old. 可是我已經一把年紀了— - 我聽老的. - Mel, I forget his name, he was a, - Mel, 我忘了他的名字, 他是個, the guy that-- - Mel's Diner?! 那個人是— - Mel's Diner?! The great '80s sitcom?! (Tony laughs) 80年代有名的情景喜劇?! (Tony 笑) - No the guy that looked for gold on the Spanish galleon. - 不是,在西班牙帆船上尋找黃金的那一位N I forget his name. 我忘了他的名字 But anyway, he found a half a billion dollars in gold 可是說到底,他找到了價值5億的黃金 but it took him like 31 years to do it. 他花了31年才辦到. And you can't live on that, 可是你不可能靠著這樣活著 that's a good start! 那是個很好的開始! - Maybe he loved the journey, though. - 可能他很喜歡那個旅程. - No, he did not love the journey! - 才沒有, 他恨透那旅程了! His son was killed on the journey! 他的兒子在那旅程中死了! - Well that's bad. - He made no, - 那可糟了. - 他沒有任何, if you could imagine 31 years of going out there, 你可以想像花31年到外面闖 getting money from investors 從投資者要些錢 and showing nothing? 然後空手而歸嗎? I mean after a year, two, five, ten 我的意思是可能在1年,2年,5年,10年後 some point you hit your breaking point 你總會想崩潰 He never hit his breaking point. 可是他從來都不沮喪. So I looked at my businesses back then 所以每當我回顧看我以前所做的一切時 and I was always looking for the new business that 我那時候一直在想找能給我最大機會 was great for opportunity. 的新企業,新的生意. I loved what I was doing, 我愛我當時在做的事, it's emotionally rewarding but 在情感面是有收穫的但是 low margin business. 它的利潤並不高. And, I had these meetings with a group of billionaires. 然後我曾經和一群億萬富翁開了個會 And they said, you have not maximized. 然後他們說,你還沒極大化利潤 And then I saw this guy Mel and I thought, 然後我回想起這個人 Mel 然後想說, I don't believe, I have not the right beliefs. 我不相信,我沒有正確的信念. You need three beliefs to be 你如果想要在商業的最高端 successful in your business the highest level: 獲取成功的話你必須要擁有3個信念: you have to believe, number one, 你必須相信, 第一, what did this guy have to believe to go 31 years? 這個人是擁有什麼樣的信念,支撐了他31年? He had to believe, number one, 他必須相信, 第一, that the treasure was out there. 寶藏就在外面. Number two, he had to believe, 第二, 他必須相信, I'm gonna find it. 他會找到他. And number three he had to believe it was 第三 他必須相信 那是 going to be worth it. 值得做的事. - Yeah. - If you don't believe - 對. - 如果你不相信 there's that treasure in your business, 你的領域藏有寶藏的話, you'll never find it. - [Gary] You're finished. 你是不會挖到寶的. - [Gary] 你就完了. - You've got to use those three things - 你必須要擁有這三個信念 to go to another level. 才能爬得更高. - Miguel to answer your question, - Miguel 回答你的問題, I've now had a career for twenty-plus years. 我現在已經累積了20多年的經驗. I, at every minute, was running one of two companies. 我,在每一分鐘,都是在經營著其中一家公司 Wine Library or VaynerMedia. Wine Library 或 VaynerMedia. There was never a day in my life 我人生中沒有一天是 where I didn't have something that I called, 我沒有那個所謂的, "The 80 percent of what I do." - That's right. "我所做的80%.” - 沒錯. - That's exactly what you were saying. - 這和你剛才說的是一樣的吧. - Yes. - I call it the meat, - 是. - 我稱它為我的肉, the main dish. 我的主菜. You can go and have side dishes, 你可以幫自己加配菜, and if your meat, if your steak is perfect, 如果你的肉, 或者你的牛排是完美的話, you'll always be able to absorb the losses, 你是可以承擔起一些虧損的, because they're smaller losses 因為他們是相對於小的虧損 and then when something over here becomes bigger, 然後當你的配菜變得更大時, you can turn that into the main part 你可以把他轉換成你的主菜 and that can become the steak. 他可以變成你的牛排. Too many people have all side dishes, 很多人擁有很多配菜 and no steak. 但是沒有主菜. - I want to say something else about it too. - 我想要補充一些東西. - Let's do another phone call. - Most people - 我們再撥一次電吧. - 多數人 massively overestimate what they're going to do 高估自己在一年內能 in a year. 做到什麼. And they underestimate what they can do in a decade. 然後低估自己十年內能做到什麼 So what happens is they get all disappointed 然後這會造成他們感到失望 and frustrated and they don't stay with the game-- 厭惡,然後他們放棄了— - Talk to me about lack of patience. - 跟我談談缺乏耐性吧 This is something, I've been pounding patience. 這是我一直, 我一直都在強調耐性. - You've been pounding patience? - 你一直都在強調耐性? - Yeah. (laughs) - 對啊. (笑) I actually, do you know that I genuinely think 我真心覺得,你知道嗎?我真心覺得我是 I'm the most patient? Do you know that-- 全世界最有耐性的人 你知道嗎— I genuinely call myself a tortoise in a hare's costume? 我真的稱自己為披著兔毛的烏龜 Don't let my energy or my stage presence 不要被我的能量和舞台魅力 confuse what I've actually been doing. 矇騙了你我正在做的事. - Yeah. No I get it, I'm teasing you. - 不,我知道, 我只是在開你玩笑. - I know you are. - I know. - 我知道你在開我玩笑. - 我知道. - But the reason I want to put it out there is - 然後我想要傳達這個的原因是 I think it's an important thing that, 我覺得這是一個很重要的 it's an enormously important variable. 一個非常重要的關鍵 - I think so too, - 我也這麼認為, let me mention one thing with it. 順帶一提. You really, I think all businesses though, 我覺得每個商業行為, we've talked about focus, I just want to add 我們剛才談到專注, 我只想要補充 one last piece to that before we go to what you're saying. 最後一點,在我們聊耐性之前讓我補充. I think all businesses should be running two businesses. 我覺得每個企業都必須要同時進行兩種生意 The business you're in and the business you're becoming. 你在經營的生意 和你即將經營的生意. Because, if you only run the business you're 因為當你在經營你 excited about you're going to become, 很有熱情的事時 你會變成, you're gonna miss the cash flow of managing your business. 你會忘了有關你生意的現金流. If you only focus on the day-to-day, 可是你如果只在乎每一天存活下來的話, you're not anticipating the competition. 你可能不會預測到未來會出現的競爭. - This is GaryVee, and you're in - 這是 GaryVee, 然後你現在正 The #AskGaryVee Show with Tony Robbins. 和Tony Robbins 上The #AskGaryVee Show Who's this? 這是? - [Nico] Yo Gary, it's Nico from Chicago, man. - [Nico] Gar你好,我是來自芝加哥的Nico . - Nico, how are you? - Nico, 你好 - [Nico] I'm good, how are you? - [Nico] 我很好, 你好嗎? - Good man, what's your question? - 我很好, 你想要問的是? - [Nico] Alright, so just a couple sentences - [Nico] 好的, 就簡短的 to give you a cap of what I do. 向你解釋我在做什麼. I'm building two things right now which is 我現在在建立兩個事情,那是 a small business, my creative studio, 一個小生意, 我的創意工作室, and my personal brand. 還有我的個人品牌. - Okay. - [Nico] So my creative studio - 好的. - [Nico] 我的創意工作室 does photo/video content for small businesses 是幫小企業製作圖片影片等內容 and my personal brand is just my creative content 然後我個人品牌只包含了我產出的東西 and me documenting my life through Instagram and YouTube. 然後我也在Youtube和Instagram紀錄著我的人生和過程 - Okay. - 好. - [Nico] So, I'm wondering, should I leverage, - [Nico] 所以我好奇的是,我應不應該利用 or should I use my leverage and community for my 我是不是應該利用我的槓桿,從我個人品牌 personal brand and funnel that into my business? 累積的社群 推動我的生意? Or should I keep them separate? 還是我應該把它們分開? Or what do you think I should I do? 你覺得我應該怎麼做? - Well look, obviously I know why you're - 很明顯的我知道為什麼你 asking this, because I've lived this life, right? 會問我這個問題,因為這是我經歷過的事,對吧? Now the thing that's interesting about me 讓我感到有趣的是 and I've talked about this is 我也曾經說過 a lot of my audience doesn't necessarily 我的觀眾不一定代表是 represent the clients of VaynerMedia. VaynerMedia的客戶. VaynerMedia does, you know, VaynerMedia 做很多,就好像 gonna do $125 million dollars in revenue this year, 今年會在總銷售額賺個1.25億 and it's mainly Fortune 500 companies 主要客戶還是財富前500的公司 who are not necessarily watching my 25 minute vlog. 它們不一定有觀看我25分鐘的Vlog Now, what I knew about being in the business 那至於,據我對你之後會做的生意 you'll be in the future, 的了解來說的話, is that the technology would drag people down. 那就是科技會讓人淪陷. And that the 53-year-old cliche executive 然後那53歲的董事 would eventually watch YouTube and be on Instagram. 遲早會看Youtube或者加入Instagram I would tell you, 我會告訴你的是 here's what I would say to you, brother; 我會告訴你的是,兄弟; Intent matters so much. 意圖很重要. As long as the content you're putting out and the 只要你放出去的內容, stuff you're doing creatively, 和你正在做的事, isn't just a gateway to get clients, 不是只是為了獲得客戶的方法, just because of that. 就只因為這樣. I think you'll be perfectly fine. 我覺得你就贏了. It's going to happen naturally anyway, first and foremost, 這很自然的會發生 還有,最重要的是 because people are going to become aware of you. 因為那些人會開始注意到你. I think, listen, I wrote a book called, 我覺得, 聽著, 我之前寫了一本書叫做, "Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook". "Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook". I think it's okay on your personal brand 我覺得對你個人品牌來說 once in a while to say, hey is anybody looking for 偶爾問人說有沒有人有興趣 small business clients? 和中小企業合作是別無大恙的 As long as that's three, six, seven percent of your, 只要那只佔了你內容的3,6,7% and that's an arbitrary number. 這只是個隨便擺出來的數字. As long as your audience doesn't feel like 重點是只要你的觀眾不覺得 that's your intent. 那是你的意圖的話就好. Look, Tony and I get compared to a lot of people Tony 和我常被拿來和很多人做比較 that we are opposite of. 一些和我們很不一樣的人做比較. But it's our energy and the way we roll that 可是那是因為我們的能量,和我們做事的方式 people think we look that part. 讓別人認為我們符合那形象. The intent matters. 意圖很重要. So I would tell you that, 所以我能告訴你的是, as long as you're asking instead of making, you win. 只要你是問,不是逼迫,你就會贏. Do you know how many people have landing pages 你知道有多少人,做了Landing Page where they get you in and you got some content 然後當你進入的時候,你看著他們的內容時 and then all of a sudden you got to pay to keep going? 突然間它們要求你付錢才能繼續觀賞 That's making people pay. 那是逼著人們付費. Putting out good stuff to the world 當你為世上帶來好的內容時 and then maybe some of it coming your way? 然後可能過程中向別人請求 "Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook" was "Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook" 是 give, give, give and then ask. 給,給,給然後問. Most people interpreted 很多人都誤讀成 it as give, give, give and then take. 給,給,給,然後拿 That's a very big difference! 這差別很大! - I like that. - 我喜歡你所說的. - [Nico] Okay, so my first brand is like, the complete, - [Nico] 好,所以我的第一個品牌是完全 it's exactly what you're describing. 符合你所說的. It has nothing to do with my business-- 他和我的生意毫無瓜葛— - It will work. It will work. - 它會成功的. 它會成功的. Dude, dude, dude, 老兄,老兄,老兄 do you know how many people have given me business 你知道有多少人願意跟我合作的理由是因為 'cause I'm a Jets fan? 我是個Jets的粉絲嗎? That's real! We connected on the Jets, 這是真的! 我們因為Jets而互動, but it became, 然後他就成為了, absolutely. Speak your truths, 是這樣的.說出你的真實想法 , have pure intent, work hard, a lot of good things happen. 抱著純潔的意圖, 努力, 會有很多好事會因這樣而發生. And by the way, 然後順帶一提, I heard your structure, your strategy is on point. 我聽著你的架構, 我認為你的策略是對的. You've got an 80 percent stake, 你生意上掌握著80%的所有權, you're building a personal brand over at 20, 然後你剩下的20%是在建立自己的個人品牌, you're doing YouTube and Instagram today, 你在我們錄這影片的這期間正在 as we record this. 做Youtube 和Instagram That's right. 沒錯. So you've got every piece in place. 所以你的策略都很完善. Keep going with your intuition. 繼續跟著你的直覺走. - [Nico] Alright, thanks brother. - [Nico] 好的,謝啦兄弟. I love you man. - Thanks man. 我愛你Gary. - 謝啦兄弟. I love you too, man. Alright. Bye. 我也愛你. 好的,再見. - Tony, while we transition, - Tony, 在我們過渡的時候, we'll get one more question in here. 我們只會再接一個問題. What's going on with you and social media? 你近期如何經營你的社群媒體? I remember very, very, very, 我還很清楚的記得, the last time I reached out to you I got inspired. 我上次聯絡你的時候,我受了啟發. I called you, and I said, bro, Snapchat. Snapchat我撥電給你,然後我說,兄弟,Snapchat. This was fifteen months ago. - Yep. 那是15個月前吧. - 對. - Talk to me about your journey on that, - 告訴我你在那的旅程吧, and one other thing that we have to do before we leave. 然後在我們離開之前一定要做的是. I've never asked you this, and I think it's really funny 我從來都沒有問過你,我也覺得在這裡問 to ask here, and you may not remember. 是很有趣的, 你可能不記得. I will never forget being at SXSW 2008, '09 or '10. 但我永遠不會忘記,在08,09或10年時在西南偏南 And I get this email, it says Anthony Robbins. 然後我收到了一個Email,那邊寫著 Anthony Robbins. And then it's a voice email! 然後他是個語音Email! - (laughs) Yes. - (笑) 是. - And I'm like, I don't know. - 然後我完全搞不清楚狀況. Click. It's like, 我點了下去. 然後就聽到, Gary! Tony Robbins! Gary! Tony Robbins! And I'm like, holy shit! 然後我就,天啊! (group laughter) (大家笑) I don't know if you recall that. 我不知道你記不記得. - Yes, I do. - But what I'm curious about - 我記得. - 可是我好奇的是 is, do you recall why you wrote that email? 你記得你在那email說了什麼嗎? - I don't remember that in particular - 我不記得細節 but I use audio emails much more than regular emails 但是比起普通email我更常用語音email because-- - Context. 因為— - 語境. - You hear your voice, - Context. - 你聽得到你的聲音, - 語境. - That context that you can't get that in a normal email, - 你不可能從普通的email得到那樣的語境, plus, if it's a couple lines I'll type it, 而且,如果只是幾行字的話我還是會打, but if it's something that has emotion to it, 但是如果裡頭包含情緒的話, I want somebody to hear it, 我希望對方可以聽得出來, so I can connect with them. - I love it. 這樣才能和他們連結. - 愛慘了. - The piece there, so that's it. - 關鍵在那, 僅此而已. - I love it. I love it. Alright let's go to this. - 我超愛這個想法的. 好吧,讓我們繼續. And I'm not letting you off the hook, 然後我不會放過你的, (phone rings) I want to know (電話響) 我想要知道 what's going on with you and social. 你如何經營你的社群媒體 - Oh, I'll answer that question. - Oh, I'll answer that question. - Let's, we'll see if this person. - 我們看看這個人. - If you got it, go. (phone ringing) - 如果通的話,就繼續吧. (電話響) - [Doug] Hello. - [Doug] 你好. - Hello, this is Gary Vaynerchuk and you're on - 你好, 這是 Gary Vaynerchuk 然後你現在 The #AskGaryVee Show with Tony Robbins. 和Tony Robbins在The #AskGaryVee Show - [Doug] Fuckin'-A it is GaryVee! - [Doug] 幹他媽的! 是GaryVee耶! - It is! (group laughter) - 是啊! (大家笑) - [Doug] Brother. - Who's this? - [Doug] 老兄. - 這是? - [Doug] This is Doug, Austin, Texas. - [Doug] 這是 Doug, 來自奧斯汀,德州. Doug, Austin, Texas. - I love it, man. Doug, 來自奧斯汀,德州 - 好棒喔老兄. - [Doug] My question for you is - [Doug] 我想問你的問題是 how can I possibly thank GaryVee 我要如何報答GaryVee for pushing me through all these years. 這幾年一直推動著我. Starting with 2007, I'm looking at my 從 2007年開始, 我現在在看著 101 wines right now, founded by you. 由你創辦的101wine Know your pal, 認識了你的朋友, you were in Austin with the book signing. 你之前在 奧斯汀辦了簽書會 Tony, loved you in Shallow Hal. Tony, 超愛你在 情人眼裡出西施的表現 (group laughter) (大家笑) - Amazing. - 酷斃了. - [Doug] I just wanted to call in and - [Doug] 我只想利用這個機會 give you the gratitude. 感謝你 (inaudible) This production company here in Austin, Texas. (聽不清) 在奧斯汀,德州有家製片公司. Just grassrootin' it. 他還在草創期. It's been fun, and I appreciate you just hustlin' 這旅程很有趣, 然後我真的感謝你如此的努力 and showing us how it's done, man. 讓我們知道唯有這樣才能成功 - I appreciate it man, - 謝謝你老兄, listen. - [Doug] Been solid. 聽我說. - [Doug] 很穩健. - You go impact one other person. - 你去影響別人. The right way to do it, and that's more than a payback. 正面的影響別人, 就足夠了. But if you find yourself in New York, 可是如果你有來紐約的話, or wherever I am, I'm gonna be in Austin a couple weeks 或者是我剛好在的地方, 我在幾個禮拜後會到奧斯汀 for South-By, come and shake my hand. 去參與西南偏南, 你可以過來和我握個手. Send an email to Gary - Hair, brother! 你可以發給Email到Gary - 好的兄弟! - (laughs) I will, man, - (笑) 我會的老兄, it's good to see you. Thank you for the love. 很高興能見到你. 謝謝你喔. - [Doug] Peace out, thanks. - [Doug] 就這樣,再見. - I forgot about that amazing appearance you made. - 我都忘了你曾經在電影客串. Was that fun? - Which one? 很好玩嗎? - 那一部? - The Hollywood, when you became a Hollywood star. - 就好萊塢,當你成為好萊塢巨星時 - You know what's interesting is, - 你知道嗎?有趣的是 the guy that wrote that is legally blind. 寫那個劇本的人是看不見的 That's why the story is about 所以整個故事就是有關 seeing the beauty in someone-- 看見人們的內在美— - I did not know that. - 我不知道耶. - And he bought my audio programs because he's blind, - 然後因為他看不見,他買了我的語音課程 he has Personal Power. 他也有一些權利. He listened to it. He went to the Farrelly Brothers. 他聽了我的演講之後去找了 Farrelly 兄弟. Never wrote a movie in his life. 他這輩子都沒寫過劇本 Sold the film, they'd ask me three times to be in films. 最後他賣了那個片子,他們求我客串了三次 I said, look, I'm not an actor. 我說,老兄,我不是個演員 I appreciate it but no. 我很感謝你們給我的機會可是我拒絕 They send me the script-- 然後他們給了我那個劇本— - They're like, you're in it! - 他們說,你就在裡面啊 - Made me laugh, I cried. -讓我哭笑不得 But then what they didn't tell me was, 可是他們沒告訴我的是 they re-wrote that section. 他們改寫了那一段 The writer didn't do it, he had like a fortune teller 那個編劇並沒有改 他寫的是一個預言家 doing it and they said, eh, that's bullshit. 做的然後他們說 幹!這狗屎不通 If you were stuck in an elevator with Tony Robbins 如果你和Tony Robbins同時卡在電梯上的話 your life would change. 你人生就會有所改變. (Gary laughs) So I show up and (Gary 笑) 然後我出席了 I start speaking, and they didn't tell him 然後開始演講 他們沒有告訴他 and they didn't tell me this is how it came about. 他們也沒告訴我 事情就是這樣發展的. So he hears my voice and, 然後他聽到我的聲音後他就大喊 Tony Robbins! Tony Robbins! And tells me the whole story! 然後把來龍去脈都告訴了我! - So cool. - Then I go to -好酷喔 - 然後我去到了那 do the piece, and I've got Jason Alexander there, right? 準備做好那橋段, 然後那時 Jason Alexander 也在, 對吧? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - 對,對,對 - And I said, look guys, you wrote this whole thing. - 然後我說,夥伴們你看 你寫了這整個東西 I'm honored to be the center of it. 我也很榮幸的是整個的中心 It's not me, 但這不是我, I wouldn't say the shit. - I'm just gonna do my thing. 我不會這麼說. - 我會做我該和會做的事. - He goes, well there's no script. - 他就說好, 沒有劇本吧. I said, he's an actor, let him act. 我說,他是個演員,讓他發揮吧 And so when I healed him like that, 所以當我去療癒他時 when you see him shocked, that isn't acting! 當你看到他一臉驚訝時, 那不是在演戲! He wasn't prepared for it to give you an idea. 他當時真的沒預料到會這樣,老實和你說. We did it over and over again, it was a fun trip. 我們就一直這樣的重複著, 那是個很有趣的旅程. - Tony, end with this for me. - Tony, 幫我做個總結. What has been your journey on social? 你在社群媒體的旅程坎坷嗎? Where are you now? 你正處於那種情況? What are you excited about, are you into it? 你為什麼感到興奮,你最喜歡那個? Is it hard for you? You're very busy. 這對你來說困難嗎? 畢竟你很忙. Like every, 就好像每, don't pander to us, I'm actually curious to where you're at. 不要討好我們, 因為我是真的好奇你在那做了什麼 - This young man right here runs it for me. - 這個年輕人在幫我經營 - Yep. - So, Tyler, he does a - 對. - 所以 Tyler, 他做得 great job but I do all my own personal components. 很棒,可是我還是自己經營我個人的私生活 I get him to go leverage and get the pictures 我讓他去槓桿,去拿圖片 and the graphics and all those things. 影像等之類的東西. I found that Facebook Live is one of my favorite 我覺得Facebook Live 是我目前 tools at this stage. 最喜歡的工具. - Yep. - 'Cause we get three-quarters - 對 - 因為我們幾乎都會有 of a million people, 75萬的人觀看 - Watching. - It's like you have - 觀看. - 這感覺就好像你有 your own show, you just go in there and, boom! 你自己的節目, 你只需要開啟然後Boom! So that tool to me is one of the most viable tools. 所以那工具對我來說是最有效益的 But you know, we've got a million people on Instagram, 可是你懂的,我們在Instagram也有百萬的追蹤者 - Tyler. - We got 10 million - Tyler. - 我們現在有 people there now. - What do you want to see, 1千萬個追蹤者 - 你希望可以從他這看到什麼 this is your chance. 這是你的機會. This is the air cover 我是你夢寐以求 you've been waiting for. (Tony laughs) 的機會. (Tony 笑) I'm gonna be your shield here, 我會成為你的後盾, this is the right room to do this. 這是談這件事的最佳地點. Where's the place that you'd like to see him 你最希望他能更專注 focus a little more on? 在那一個平台? - For me? - Yes. - 對我來說的話? - 是. - Had you asked me six months ago, - 如果你六個月前問我的話, I would have said Snapchat, but now I'll say 我會說 Snapchat, 可是現階段我的答案是 Instagram Stories. Instagram 動態. - [Gary] Yep. - Yep. - [Gary] 對. - 沒錯. - We're doing it today, he's taking a little run-through - 我們今天就開始做了,他也在那開始 on it, - [Gary] I love it. 露臉了, - [Gary] 好棒. - He's digging it. - 他很喜歡. You know, it's ephemeral, it's here today gone tomorrow. 你知道的這是短暫的 它今天可能在明天可能就不在了 But you're, he's able to connect with his fans. 可是你,他能夠和他的粉絲互動 And give them that little sneak peak behind the scenes 然後給他們看看他做的事的 of what he's up to. 幕後花絮. - [Gary] My man. - I'd love to see that. - [Gary] 太棒了. - 這是我想看到的. - And I love that Instagram is more your - 然後我喜歡 Instagram的原因是因為 personal life to a great extent. 它讓你更能分享你的私生活. Each piece, you know,-- 每一個影片, 就好像,— - Yeah, Facebook's like mainstream media. - 是, Facebook 是主流的媒體. And by the way, they ebb and flow to his point, 然後,這也回到了他剛才所說的 he's exactly right. 他完全的說對了 Six months ago it would have been Snapchat, 六個月前,主流是Snapchat and tomorrow, somebody might buy Vine, 然後明天可能會有人買下了Vine create one feature and we all care. 然後做了一個我們都會使用的功能 - Yeah. - It's a moving market. - 對. - 這是一個動態的市場. - Without a doubt. Without a doubt. - 毫無疑問 毫無疑問 Thank you, brother! - It's great to see you. 謝啦兄弟! - 能見到你真的太好了 - Listen, people watching, - 聽著, 正在觀賞的朋友們, I want to plant one seed, one seed for you too. 我想要栽種一顆種子,想要在你們心裡種下一顆種子 Both of us have achieved a lot. 我們兩個人都很有成就 I'm sure many of you have achieved a lot too. 我也相信眾多的你們也很有成就. Success without fulfillment's the ultimate failure. 可是沒有滿足自我的成就是最大的失敗 This guy's very fulfilled, that's why he 這個人非常的滿足,所以他 works 24 hours a day. 可以每天24小時都在工作. His whole hustle is that it fulfills him. 他的努力就是他滿足自我的方式. Same thing with me. 和我一樣 If you don't find what fulfills you, 如果你不知道什麼讓你感到滿足的話, all the achievement's worthless. 多大的成就都是沒有用的. I had a really cool conversation, 我有個很酷的對談, and I talk about it at the end of the book here because 我在書中的尾端也有提到因為 money is not gonna make you happy. 金錢不會讓你感到快樂 It'll give you resources, it'll give you tools. 它可以給你資源, 它可以給你工具, But you got a 2 million year old brain 可是當你有個2百萬歲的頭腦 that's always looking for what's wrong 然後他一直在找不對勁的地方時 'cause it's trying to make you survive. 因為它在想辦法讓你存活下來. If you're going to override that, 如果你想要推翻它,無視它的話 you've got to learn what it is that's gonna 你必須要找到什麼是最能 fulfill you most. 滿足你的東西 And if you discover that, and you pour 然後當你找到它時, 然後你把 all of your juice into that, 所有精力都放在那時 forget the money, the money will be fine. 不要去想錢的問題, 錢不是問題 But what you really will have is an extraordinary life. 可是你會得到的是一個很美好的人生 That's what this character has done for himself, 這也是這個人為他自己做到的事 'cause he lives it every single day. 因為他就活在其中 I live it every single day. 我也是活在其中 There's nothing short of that that's going to 這和追逐你想要的 give you what you want. 沒有太大的差異 So, hoping you read this, you'll also find there's 所以我希望當你讀著這本書時,你也可以從中發現 pieces there about how to master the mind. 如何去成為你思緒的主人 'Cause this is what messes this up. 因為很多事情都是你的思緒搞砸的 You can be a billionaire and 你可以是個億萬富翁 be miserable. - This is the game. 但是每天都很傷心. - 這就是人生遊戲 This is the operating system, baby. 這是你的作業系統. - We're the only creatures on the planet that can - 我們是這星球上唯一能思考,但是同時 think a thought and make ourself miserable, 讓自己感到悲傷的生物 and think a thought and make ourselves euphoric. 相對的,我們也可以透過思考,讓我們感到愉快 So, take control of your mind. 所以開始學習如何掌控自己的思緒 That's really the end of the game for you, 那就是你取勝的方法 that's how you'll survive. 那也是你存活的方法. - Two things, you gotta ask the question of the day. - 兩件事, 你可以問今天的問題. That's what every guest does. 這是每個客人的特權. So you get to ask a question, and there'll be 所以你可以問個問題,然後在 thousands of comments on Facebook and YouTube. Facebook 和 YouTube會有上千的評論. So give that a thought of what question you 在你問的問題給予一些回饋, want answered. 供你參考. Number two, I'm about to take a picture with 第二, 我想要和這個人 this man, and I'm gonna give away a hundred copies of this 拍張照, 然後我會在Instagram接下來的24小時 on Instagram over the next 24 hours. 送出他100本的新書 - Cool! That's exciting! - 好棒!這讓我太興奮了 Question I have is, 我的問題是 what is your definition of a magnificent life? 你如何定義一個很棒的人生 I'd really be curious. 我真的很好奇 - Oh we're gonna get - 好的,我們可能會 some good stuff. - What's your criteria 得到很棒的回應. - 你覺得你一個很棒的人生 for a magnificent life? 必須擁有什麼特徵? Which to me is life on your terms. 對我來說就是為了自己的夢想而活. It's different for everybody, 可是這是因人而異的, I'd love to know what yours is. 我很想知道你的完美人生長什麼樣. I'd love to see the variety of people. 我很期待可以看到不同人的看法. Thank you, brother. 感謝你兄弟 - My pleasure. - Good seeing you, man. - 這是我的榮幸 - 很高興能見到你 - You keep asking questions, - 你繼續提出問題, we'll keep answering them. 我們會繼續為你解答. (hip hop music) (hip hop music)
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