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Tom: Hey, everybody.
Welcome to Impact Theory.
You are here, my friends, because you believe that human potential is nearly limitless,
but you know that having potential is not the same as actually doing something with
it.
So our goal, with this show and company, is to introduce you to the people and ideas that
are going to help you actually execute on your dreams.
All right.
Today's guest is one of the world's leading marketing experts and living proof that the
American Dream is alive and well, if you're willing to work your face off.
He was born in Belarus in the former Soviet Union, didn't speak a word of English when
he arrived.
His entire extended family lived together in a tiny-ass apartment in Queens, and as
the foreign kid, he was once bullied into drinking urine from a soda can.
He was a D and F student, and pretty much everyone thought he would fail in life.
Despite all of that, though, this guy not only refuses to complain about anything ever,
he is wildly optimistic, upbeat, and freakishly driven.
A born entrepreneur, he began by ripping flowers out of people's yards and selling them back
to them.
He had an entire lemonade franchise system while he was still riding a big wheel, and
in his teens, he was routinely making thousands of dollars a weekend selling baseball cards,
until his father forced him to go to work in the family business for $2 an hour.
But he didn't waste time whining about it.
He just got to work, and just out of college, by being an early adopter of the internet.
He took his father's discount liquor store from being a local store doing $4 million
a year in revenue to an internet phenomenon doing $45 million in revenue in just five
years.
Now, leveraging his unique ability to identify where consumer attention is going next, he
founded the pioneering digital agency VaynerMedia, which serves some of the largest companies
on the planet, and along the way, he's also built a massive social following of his own
that rings in at around 3.5 million devoted followers.
He is a people first kind of guy, and you can see it in everything that he does, from
his employees to his fans and partnerships.
As such, he's greeted like a rock star.
His business is growing crazy fast, and it'll soon be starring in Apple's original series
Planet of the Apps with Gwyneth Paltrow, Jessica Alba, and will.i.am.
On top of all that, he's also a prolific angel investor and venture capitalist who was an
early investor in such juggernauts as Snapchat, Facebook, Twitter, and Uber, so please, dearest
of friends, help me in welcoming the four-time New York Times best-selling author and future
owner of the New York Jets, Gary Vaynerchuk.
Gary: Thank you, bro.
Tom: Welcome to the show.
Gary: Dude, that was super impressive.
Tom: Thank you, sir.
You [crosstalk 00:02:52] Gary: There's no shot I could have pulled
that off, and also, after listening to all that, I'm really glad my mom sent you the
memo.
Tom: Right?
Gary: That was very nice.
Tom: I got it all from her, just yeah, straight out.
Gary: It's good to be here.
Thanks.
Tom: Yeah, it's good to have you, man.
Gary: Nice to have some peeps in the audience.
I always like that a little bit better, so ...
Tom: You and me both, yeah.
Gary: Yeah.
Tom: So play right to them.
I mean, in many ways, this is for them.
This all started originally back with Inside Quest.
It was all about doing something for the employees.
Gary: Yep.
Tom: And I had this unending terror, because I have these 25 bullet points that I think
anybody should be living by, and I was terrified people would memorize them but not actually
live by them.
Gary: Sure.
Tom: Which is like the death sentence, because you think you're doing something right.
You pacify yourself by memorizing it.
So yeah, I love having people here and getting feedback.
Gary: It's funny you just said that.
I think so many people are keyboard activists, right?
Everybody's good at sending a tweet about how the world should be, and nobody's doing
anything about it, and that is just very much human nature.
Tom: I was just going to ask if you think that's human nature, or if you think that
we've gotten soft as a culture?
Gary: Yes.
I mean, of course we've gotten soft as a culture in the U.S., because the U.S. has had an incredible
200-year run.
Right?
This is just what happens, so as a culture, I can't speak for people that live in the
Amazon River, and I can't speak for people that still live in Belarus, but the American
culture is soft, and that's a great thing.
That means there's been enormous amounts of prosperity, but let's not be naïve.
I mean, people literally complain when somebody gives them the wrong amount of extra cream
in a Starbucks $6 coffee.
We've gotten to a place where we complain ... Out of all those lovely things you said,
as I stood there getting ready to come, the part that, and I'm glad you pick up on this
and not a lot of people have said it before, so thank you, my lack of interest in complaining
is so high.
And when I watch what people complain about, it breaks my heart, because they completely
lack perspective, and I genuinely believe my happiness and optimism comes from my perspective.
Even in political unrest times like right now, a lot of people very bent out of shape,
but the reality is, is that it's just never been better to be a human being.
That's just the truth.
That's just data.
That's reality, and yeah, I mean, it's just a very fun time to be alive.
So much going on.
The internet is starting to hit maturity.
Look at what we're doing right now.
Tom: It's crazy.
Gary: This way now, right?
Would have cost millions of dollars in production and distribution to have the amount of people
who watch this just 15 years ago.
I just think it's very interesting times, and I was saying something to a friend the
other day.
I was like, "Could you imagine if you told a parent 15 years ago, 'Hey, parent.
What you're going to want to do in 15 years, instead of buying a kid, your 16-year-old,
a car, you're going to convince your 16-year-old daughter to go into a stranger's car every
single day.
You're going to pay for your 16-year-old daughter to go into a stranger's car every single day,
and you will think that's normal and actually safer than buying that kid a car'?"
That's literally what we're living in now.
High-net-worth individuals in America are preferring to give their kids unlimited Uber
to buying a car, because they don't want them drinking and driving.
They don't trust their driving, and literally, they think it's safer for their 16, 17-year-old
to go into a stranger's car than to drive themselves.
That's sacrilege 15 years ago.
Online dating 20 years ago, the weirdest, nerdiest.
You're thinking 300-pound white dude in the basement of a kid's car.
Now it's just completely standard.
I mean, if you add in sliding into people's DM on Instagram, it's like 89% of relationships,
right?
So I think we're going through a huge transition, because all of us, even thought leaders, are
grossly underestimating the internet itself, and we're hitting scale.
Right?
We now all are on at all times, and this is now the beginning ... I was joking while I
was working out this morning, the DRock, I'm like, "DRock, you're going to get replaced
by like a Pokemon ball.
I'm going to throw it up ... People in 20 years are literally going to throw something
up.
It's just going to hover 360 and film everything they're doing."
I mean, it's just an incredible time, and I think the way people look at the world right
now, because it's such an incredible time, is actually the quickest tell to who they
are.
If you think it sucks, and it's bad, you have losing pessimistic DNA, and if you think it's
awesome and phenomenal, you have optimistic winning DNA, and I believe that to be true,
and so that's where we're at.
Tom: No, man, I'm with you on that.
So I've been involved in the XPRIZE now for a while.
Reason I got involved with the XPRIZE is largely for that reason.
I look at the future, it's so fucking exciting.
What's going on is crazy, and if you're the one that can see where the trends are going,
and you can ride those trends, be the early adopter, get into it before anybody else,
and there's obviously chances for huge wins there.
Gary: While you're practical.
Tom: Right.
Gary: Right?
Because I think a lot of my ... So I've had that career, but a lot of the reason is, I'm
not guessing or getting in too early.
Right?
It's like real estate.
There's a big difference between the people that bought beachfront property in Malibu
than people that are buying beachfront property in off-region, no infrastructure ...
Tom: Right.
Gary: ... islands in the Caribbean, which is right, in theory, but it could be an 80-year
theory, right?
And so it's about timing.
Like VR's coming, but consumer VR is very far away.
All my friends are spending millions of dollars, tens of millions of dollars, in consumer virtual
reality, VR, yet there's nobody here, nobody watching this, that knows a single person
that spends three hours a day on VR.
Tom: Right.
Gary: Right?
Like it's just, it's way far away.