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  • How will you prevent the Venus Project from becoming corrupt

  • if people put up money to build the first city

  • and try to dictate the policy of the city?

  • First of all, the Venus Project would not be sponsored by people

  • who believe that this system will work.

  • It's the failure of this system that enables people

  • to put up money for an experimental system.

  • If doctors want to build a new hospital to operate differently

  • they build an experimental hospital and they check it out

  • see if it works. If it doesn't work, they go back to the other system.

  • If the Venus Project designs a city and it doesn't work

  • we'll change the design until it does

  • just like all research programs.

  • There's a lot of things in research that don't work.

  • You don't stop doing research.

  • You have to continue doing research until it does work.

  • Will it work perfectly? No, every year it'll get better

  • if you keep at it.

  • I see all things changing, always.

  • I see no final frontiers, no utopias, and the basis for corruption...

  • If you were to have a man finance a city

  • and he tries to steer it in the monetary direction

  • it'll fail, just like the monetary system.

  • We'll have a city which we can use

  • but the guy that runs the city will be out.

  • His business will be out because people don't have purchasing power

  • to keep him going.

  • As I said before, if wealthy people all buy big yachts

  • and they keep them loaded, ready to leave, with food

  • sea piracy will grow. There will be more pirates in the sea

  • grabbing yachts

  • because they can't sail indefinitely without fuel.

  • They all go out to the West Indies and they can occupy an island

  • (all these wonderful yachts with millionaires)

  • and if the people on the other islands are starving

  • they'll invade that island. Do you understand that?

  • You can't live to yourself, is the message I'm talking about.

  • If we don't take care of everybody, including ourselves

  • we cannot build a world free of war, poverty and hunger.

  • It's been said in religion, all these things

  • but they didn't know how to attain it.

  • They thought: If only people would be decent and fair.

  • They can't in a competitive world!

  • If you manufacture stockings

  • that have runs in them, people have to buy new stockings

  • but if Larry invents stockings that don't get a run

  • he'll put you out of business or you'll buy his patent

  • and don't produce them because you want to sell stockings.

  • How can you be decent and ethical in a competitive world?

  • How can you love your brother if you take advantage of him

  • by owning a patent which stops him from making something

  • that will benefit other people?

  • If you take a patent out on crutches or your wheelchair

  • people can't use it unless they pay you.

  • All patents and private property deprive other people.

  • When a guy is very wealthy, if he owns 4,000 acres of land

  • I would say he's kind of a selfish individual.

  • You don't need 4,000 acres

  • unless he gave it to some charity, then I'd say

  • the man is truly religious.

  • Doctors Without Borders to me are more religious

  • than most church-attending people.

  • People that do good without reward.

  • The only reward you get is seeing less poverty and hunger

  • starvation and deprivation, kids with swollen bellies, all gone!

  • If that doesn't give you incentive

  • if your only incentive is the money system

  • then you don't understand human beings.

  • Because you owe your own life to the advances made by Edison

  • Louis Pasteur and all the other people. You're alive because of them!

  • If you don't feel that you want to put anything back into the Earth

  • to make it a better place, I would say you're harmful

  • to yourself and to society.

  • Should we kill those people? No.

  • Send them back to school to learn or show them evidence

  • of the system you believe in and have them produce counterarguments.

  • Don't stop them! If they say

  • "Well, this system kills incentive"

  • You ask "What is your evidence for that?"

  • Don't kill them.

  • If you start killing people, you'll always have people you want to kill.

  • You know what I mean? People say "All those bastards

  • don't care about anybody but themselves!"

  • I would say that they need bits of information

  • to be able to do the things that are better for people.

  • Who decides which is better for people?

  • Eventually, the majority of people will decide that.

  • If the system doesn't work, they won't operate it

  • or they'll find a system that does work.

  • You know, when I was a kid

  • cops used to blow a whistle to stop traffic

  • and I remember talking about a system.

  • It was a red light and a section of the pavement went up

  • and it stopped the cars, so they couldn't violate the law.

  • Even if there is a red light and the guy is talking to somebody in the car

  • he can go through a red light.

  • But we don't want elevators that 'might' stop

  • on the floor you want it to stop at.

  • We want elevators to stop at the floor you want it to stop at.

  • We don't want traffic controlled by a light if the guy isn't watching it.

  • We want traffic controlled by a mechanism in the car.

  • Instead of the red light, the car stops

  • while the other cars are passing

  • and when they cease to pass, then you get the go sign.

  • But don't leave anything up to people. It won't work!

  • Even on an aircraft carrier today

  • there's a guy that signals the planes to come in.

  • If a plane has a landing gear problem, he's given priority.

  • They tell the other planes to fly around

  • until this damaged airplane lands.

  • Nobody makes that decision except the conditions that prevail.

  • Do you understand what that means?

  • If we begin to run out of farmland and the wealthy people

  • or the middle class have difficulty getting food

  • then a lot of research will be done in hydroponics and ocean farming.

  • But right now, you can't get a nickel for ocean farming

  • because it's not that necessary.

  • As long as they are eating, that's your problem

  • and if you make it your problem

  • you might kill the wealthy guy for his bank account

  • or kidnap his wife for ransom, so that you too, can eat.

  • This system generates predatory behavior

  • where we take advantage of other people.

  • You say "Well, that's human nature!"

  • [because] that's the way things are today and there's always been scarcity.

  • So most people are out to take care of themselves, and say

  • "If you don't take care of yourself, no one is going to take care of you"

  • and so they make us predatory; the system is like that.

  • If you say "Well, I think it's up to each individual..."

  • If you really study it, you'll find that each individual

  • is made to conform to the social institutions that exist.

  • If they don't conform, they wind up as vagrants in prison

  • or they have difficulty getting a job if they don't conform.

  • You are pressed by many different forces to conform.

  • If you walked around without any clothing

  • because you don't believe in clothing

  • you'd be picked up and arrested, put in jail.

  • If you continue to do that, you might be put in a mental hospital.

  • It isn't a free country; nothing is free!

  • In a free country, you are free to make your own decisions.

  • You never make your own decisions!

  • If you live in any culture, they will work on you

  • so that you correspond to the values of that culture.

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Jacque Fresco - 腐敗因素,社會責任 - 2011年02月14日 (Jacque Fresco - Corrupting Factors, Social Responsibility - Feb. 14, 2011)

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