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  • I'm a psychologist and I study achievement.

  • Most psychologists who study achievement study intelligence.

  • And if the last talk didn't convince you

  • and I have a suspicion you didn't need a whole lot of convincing,

  • intelligence is, there's only part of the story,

  • maybe a very small part of the story.

  • And it is, in fact possible that we even have

  • that small part of the story wrong.

  • In terms of intelligence being thought to be

  • something largely inherited and not developed.

  • Something that is relatively immutable over the course of one's life.

  • But I came to a study of all the other things that intelligence,

  • everything else, that made up achievement.

  • In kind of a circuitous route -- so I was 32 when I started graduate school.

  • You know, I turned to my left and to my right and

  • everybody else was drinking cappuccino and studying at

  • one in the morning because they were 22, not 32.

  • And so, I actually think my life story is a great example

  • of actually not have grit, not having enough grit.

  • Maybe some talent but not actually having --

  • What I now study is one of the key and

  • probably necessary ingredients of high achievement

  • in any field that you want to consider.

  • So, what I did between the age of 22 and 32 was many

  • different things all of which I think sounded good on a resume.

  • I was a McKinsey Consultant, I went to Oxford

  • for a couple of years on a prestigious fellowship.

  • I was the COO of a non-profit website for parents

  • to get school information that sounds good,

  • that was good, sounds good and was good.

  • I taught in various schools in New York

  • and in Philadelphia and in San Francisco.

  • And all this added up to a great person to have dinner with

  • because that person, had done a lot of interesting things

  • and have done most of those things actually relatively well.

  • But what I realized is that if you are a boat,

  • a really fast, shiny boat, which is going quickly towards

  • one destination but then tacks to another direction,

  • to go to another port, and then tacks again --

  • Essentially you end up being a really shiny boat that goes fast nowhere.

  • And, so my own kind of personal experience

  • and probably my lack of grit, actually,

  • led me to study this quality in some detail.

  • And I'm gonna mention, something that I'll get to

  • later in the talk but it's called the "10 year rule."

  • It turns out that there is really no domain of expertise

  • that has been studied where the world class performers

  • have put in fewer than 10 years of consistent,

  • deliberate practice to get to where they are.

  • So, I started graduate school in 2002 --

  • I have three more years on my clock -- which means

  • many things, among which means I can't give up until

  • I have at least put in my 10 years and see,

  • whether I've gotten anywhere.

  • Psychologist have been interested in the distinction

  • between talent and everything else for years.

  • Right? So, before we had words to describe it

  • we were also probably interested in it.

  • But here is a quote from Clark Hall, one of the eminent

  • American psychologist of the early 20th century.

  • He wrote a little review, he kind of reviewed the literature

  • that was out there, which was quite easy to do in 1928,

  • there was a whole lot less of it.

  • He said, you know there are really two things:

  • there's our talent and I would emphasize what

  • Chris said, talent is multifaceted, there's creativity,

  • there's visual creativity, that different from musical creativity,

  • there's analytical talent, there's athletic talent,

  • there is musical talent.

  • But let's put them all on one category.

  • There's intelligence as conventionally defined,

  • and then there are all those many things that are

  • so much worse understood in a way,

  • all the capacities that allow us to unlock our talents and

  • he would put those in the category of industry.

  • William James made the same distinction.

  • William James wrote a famous essay in 1907 called, "The Energies of Men,"

  • and William James who arguably is the founder of

  • American psychology said there are our talents and

  • those things that unlock our talents and we could design

  • all of psychology to try to understand these two things.

  • I would argue that we've done some amount of work on the

  • talents and almost nothing on the unlocking.

  • When I considered what is it that unlocks people's

  • potential, what enables people to become a world class musician,

  • a world class teacher, a world class performer.

  • I struggled with this word to call what I was becoming

  • to understand was one of these key ingredients.

  • Eventually I called it grit, which I named in part after the

  • somewhat mediocre western John Wayne starred in;

  • I'll say a little more about that but, the reason why I came

  • to this concept of grit was I interviewed people that I knew

  • that were at the tops of their fields,

  • so it was relatively opportunistic.

  • I mean I interviewed my friend who had won a MacArthur,

  • I interviewed investment bankers

  • who at least at that time were very successful.

  • I interviewed, musicians and professors, and alike.

  • And people would often say, the people who are

  • top in my field are the really talented ones.

  • But just as often, and in fact I would say more often,

  • people said that these individuals at the top of

  • their fields had this kind of tenacious, dogged

  • perseverance unlike anyone else that they knew and

  • it was actually that which vaulted them to the to the top.

  • So I called it "true grit" after this movie which is

  • really about a young girl from Yale County, Arkansas

  • who like in typical western form, her father is unjustly murdered,

  • she spends the rest of the movie avenging his death,

  • and Rooster Cogburn plays the one-eyed,

  • semi-alcoholic sheriff who follows her along.

  • And everyone thinks that true grit is really about

  • John Wayne, of course, and it's really about this young

  • girl who against all odds pursues a very long term,

  • almost impossible goal and eventually --

  • with the emphasis on eventually, succeeds in that goal.

  • And this is the quality that I study.

  • Charles Darwin had a half cousin named Francis Galton,

  • and they shared a correspondence.

  • I like to think that correspondence today is as rich and

  • personally reveling as it was when you had to put a pen to paper.

  • So, maybe if they had emailed they would have shared

  • the same kinds of conversations.

  • This conversation, this quote, this is actually the letter on

  • the left and, maybe a little more legible on the right,

  • was Charles Darwin's response to Francis Galton

  • who had written a book called "Hereditary Genius."

  • Francis Galton made the claim that genius had 3 parts:

  • one part talent, one part passion or zeal and one part hard work.

  • And Charles Darwin's response to that was,

  • "That's a really interesting idea, I thought it was all

  • the hard work and the passion, maybe there's a role for talent after all."

  • Charles Darwin himself didn't actually consider

  • his intellect to be at all special.

  • He thought he had a quite ordinary mind.

  • But a very specific interest and focus and a lot of zeal and hard work.

  • Moving up a little closer to where we are in time,

  • there was a graduate student at Stanford named Katherine Cox,

  • she was a graduate student of a professor there named Lewis Termin,

  • he gave us, possibly the most widely used

  • intelligence test today, the Sanford-Binnet IQ test.

  • She was doing her graduate work in a lab where

  • everybody studied intelligence and how to measure it

  • and was it possible to measure it very early in life and

  • could we predict genius and so forth.

  • And Katherine took a very different take on her own research,

  • she wanted to know what are these other qualities that

  • make for genius, that make for realized genius,

  • people who are actually going to do something in the world.

  • So she read the biographies of 300 well known geniuses

  • and she isolated a few qualities which really distinguish

  • the geniuses who made a mark on the world.

  • One of them was the tendency not to abandon task

  • from mere changeability in her words.

  • In other words not being a dilettante, not being a flake,

  • not being me from the age of 22 to 32. Right?

  • Sort of from one award to another, from one career

  • to another, never actually setting sights on a port that

  • I was going to consistently work towards, right?

  • And I think we know many extremely bright people

  • who don't have the capacity to stay on task,

  • towards one goal and keep switching from one to the other.

  • I teach at Penn, I see hundreds and thousands of

  • kids pass through Penn's, you know, Ivy League portals

  • and they have this conception that essentially when they go off

  • into the world it will be an OK and good strategy to go to

  • law school and if I don't like law, I filled my pre-med

  • requirements so I could always go back and do medical school and

  • if I don't like that there's always management consulting;

  • the fall back of any Ivy League graduate, right.

  • And what I want to tell them is that history and psychology

  • tell us that changing around a lot is actually not

  • a good way to get anywhere. The other quality that she

  • isolated in her work, in her sort of reading of biographies

  • was probably more predictable, I think many teachers

  • and even many kids might recognize that

  • having perseverance in the face of adversity,

  • setbacks, failures, that is important.

  • And that it's the combination of those things that I call grit.

  • So it's this stamina quality not just being passionate

  • but sustaining that passion for a long time.

  • And these are items that I give in a questionnaire

  • when I try to measure this quality in studies.

  • Then the perseverance part as well, right.

  • Setbacks don't disappoint me,

  • I finish whatever I begin, I'm determined.

  • I'm going to walk you through a couple of studies,

  • and then I am going to speculate and it's only going to be

  • a speculation about what we could possibly do for

  • young people to cultivate this quality.

  • The first study I want to tell you about was done

  • at West Point Military Academy.

  • The first summer when you go to

  • West Point is called "Beast Barracks."

  • So you show up, they check you for tattoos,

  • can't have a tattoo if you go to West Point,

  • they shave your hair, they sit you down and you take

  • a very long battery of psychological intelligence tests.

  • So I slipped in the grit scale, on this second day of

  • training for a group of cadets.

  • And like many other psychologist I had my battery of

  • measures kind of hoping that I would be able

  • to predict something over and beyond,

  • what else is being collected at West Point.

  • West Point has been collecting data for many years

  • on what predicts survival through "Beast Barracks."

  • So they lose a good number of their cadets every

  • summer that they do this, the first year of cadets

  • even though they try to select the sort of people that

  • are obviously not going to drop out.

  • So here are the results, grit is the dark blue line and

  • essentially how to read this graph is on the left is the percentage of

  • the cadets, who actually retained through the summer,

  • the summer of "Beast Barracks."

  • And on the X axis is what quartile you're in.

  • So at the far right hand, we have people in the top

  • quartile on grit scores -- 96 percent of those cadets

  • actually stayed through the summer.

  • And you can see, essentially, that there's this

  • positive relationship -- more grit more likely to stay.

  • Here is the whole candidate score, this is a weighted

  • average of you SAT, your GPA, how many push-ups you can do, literally.

  • You can see that, it's actually true that if your in the bottom 25%

  • of their whole candidate score you are more likely to

  • drop out, but isn't it interesting that the top 25% of

  • people on this score, which West Point has spent many

  • years and lots of your tax dollars trying to figure out,

  • the best predictor of performance.

  • You know, the people in the top 25% were actually just

  • about as likely to drop out, and self-discipline which is

  • being able to resist temptation, it's also an important

  • quality, but not such an important quality

  • when it comes to high achievement.

  • Very good quality when it comes to staying on your diet

  • and doing your homework, not such a good quality,

  • in terms of predicting extremely high challenge achievement.

  • That seem to be predictive as well,

  • not quite as predictive when you run the statistics as grit.

  • We replicated the study, every single year

  • in the last five years at West Point Academy

  • leading lots of military people to call me and

  • ask me how to increase grit in their cadets,

  • in their special forces officers or navy seals,

  • or in their air-force cadets.

  • But, the point here is that grit is predicting something,

  • people who stay in that very challenging environment

  • are not just the very talented ones, it's something else.

  • In fact this study, and in every study that

  • I've run since then, I was looking to see whether

  • the gritty people were the ones who were the talented ones.

  • Maybe when you really good at something it makes you stay in.

  • In fact we find quite the opposite,

  • at West Point and elsewhere we find that

  • the gritty people on measures of talent have less.

  • So it's by no means a guarantee of grit that

  • you actually start of as one of the gifted.

  • Here I am gonna run quickly through some other studies.

  • This is a grit measured by looking at peoples resumes

  • for consistency and follow through I would have gotten

  • a terrible grit score for my resume,

  • would have gotten grit for breath, low for grit.

  • This is actually looking at grit in college resumes

  • as a predictor of the teacher effectiveness in a teacher's

  • under resourced communities.

  • And we measured teacher effectiveness the way

  • it should be measured, which is the academic progress

  • of their kids. And no other thing, I think,

  • would substitute for that.

  • We did a great study, and I mean it was just fun,

  • of the National Spelling Bee kids.

  • I called up the director of the National Spelling Bee,

  • who herself was a National Spelling Bee champion,

  • she corrected the spelling on my email on her return,

  • and that was fine too.

  • And these kids are extraordinary children, and I think

  • many people have this stereotype that Spelling Bee kids

  • are verbal geniuses and the ones who win

  • the Spelling Bee are sort of more genius-like

  • than the ones who don't win the Spelling Bee.

  • So I asked the director if that were true and she said,

  • "I don't think so but I don't know what it is."

  • So we surveyed kids before they actually went to the Bee

  • and what we found is that, again grit is the dark blue line,

  • so the kids who actually placed higher in the finals

  • of the National Spelling Bee were higher in grit and

  • here is they verbal IQ, verbal IQ did predict,

  • but again, the kids who were really high in verbal IQ

  • tended to be lower in grit.

  • So they were not merit, they were inversely related

  • and self-discipline here, being able to resist temptation,

  • stay on a diet, do you homework when you need to --

  • Interestingly, the kids who were very high in

  • self-discipline did do better.

  • But there was also the slacker group,

  • in a bottom 25% of self-discipline who also did quite well

  • but just about as well as the top.

  • So again self-discipline, great for doing homework,

  • terrific predictor of GPA, not such a great predictor

  • of are you gonna find a blue man group and stay with it, etc.

  • In a follow-up study to this one we investigated why

  • is it that gritty kids are wining the Spelling Bee.

  • So we recruited another sample of kids from

  • the following year Spelling Bee, we sent them surveys,

  • we measured they grit on self-report questionnaires,

  • but then we asked them very detailed question about

  • what they did. So it turns out the kids who were in

  • the National Spelling Bee competition,

  • they're studying anywhere from an hour a week to

  • scarily 35 or 40 hours a week but what differentiate kids

  • who are gritty from kids how are not gritty

  • it's not just the hours of work that they are putting in

  • they're putting the hardest kind of work in.

  • They are not studying the words they are already know,

  • they're not sitting around being quizzed on

  • what's pretty much coming easily,

  • they isolate what they don't know, they identify their own

  • weaknesses and then they work just on that.

  • And that seems to characteristic of high achievement

  • and what grit enables you to do.

  • It's basically, being in a very uncomfortable place

  • for some part of your day working extremely hard and then

  • to get up and do it all over again and again and again.

  • There is a graph that goes with this 10-year-old,

  • that I mentioned at the beginning of the talk,

  • this is the deliberate practice graph, this graph actually

  • accurately describes the rise of skill, the gain in skill

  • over time for really just about any domain that's been studied.

  • Even Mozart, who some would argue is proof of concept for genius --

  • Mozart must have been born as great as he was

  • because who else could have been composing

  • melodies that we're still listening to, at the age of 5 or 6.

  • It turns out that Mozart also fits this graph but he was

  • doing probably 8 hours of deliberate practice a day,

  • from as early as he could sit up,

  • whereas most of class performers only do 4.

  • But Mozart at very early age had already accumulated

  • basically 10,000 hours of deliberate practice.

  • Here is the interesting thing on the graph,

  • so it's really 10 years since you started discipline

  • till you get to world class peak performers.

  • And another interesting point about this which

  • you can't see from this graph is that

  • most people do this, they don't have the grit to

  • essentially sustain this deliberate practice over all

  • this time and they basically plato here.

  • I want to end with a couple of quotes.

  • If you look at early films of people that we all love --

  • maybe you love Will Smith -- I do --

  • maybe you love Matt Dillon or Rob Lowe,

  • take any Academy Award winning actor and

  • go watch one of their first films.

  • More likely than not it was terrible.

  • So the interesting thing is what makes somebody

  • have a terrible film, which is poorly reviewed,

  • and actually stay with it?

  • Whatever it is, I think Will Smith has got it,

  • and he was also very funny when he talks about it.

  • And I think Woody Allen has it.

  • And I think that essentially the question for the Blue [unclear] School

  • and for the rest of us who are interested in children is

  • whatever that is, let's figure it out and then

  • through the art which is teaching and education

  • let's bring it to children.

  • Thank you very much.

I'm a psychologist and I study achievement.

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