Name: TED】戈登-布朗談全球倫理與國家利益的關係 (【TED】Gordon Brown on global ethic vs. national interest)
Uploaded: 2021-01-14T06:59:33.000Z
Duration: 17 min 57 s

Chris Anderson: Thank you so much, Prime Minister,

克利斯.安德森：很感謝您，首相先生，

過去簡單式

that was both fascinating and quite inspiring.

剛剛的演講真是引人入勝又發人省思

現在進行式

Would you describe that as global citizenship?

您會覺得它就是全球公民責任嗎？

Is that an idea that you believe in, and how would you define that?

這是您深信的概念嗎？您要如何定義它呢？

Gordon Brown: It is about global citizenship

布朗：我認爲這就是全球公民的責任。

and recognizing our responsibilities to others.

就是去認清楚我們對他人的責任。

There is so much to do over the next few years

And there is so much shared sense of what we need to do,

that it is vital that we all come together.

But we don't necessarily have the means to do so.

但是我們不見得有方法可以做到

I believe the concept of global citizenship

will simply grow out of people talking to each other across continents.

But of course the task is to create the institutions

會隨著洲際間的對話自然產生。

But I don't think we should underestimate

the extent to which massive changes in technology

make possible the linking up of people across the world.

CA: But people get excited about this idea of global citizenship,

這使得串連全球的人變得可能。

安德森：人們對全球公民的概念很有興趣

when they start thinking about patriotism,

GB: Well, of course national identity remains important.

您要如何去協調這兩種想法呢？

But it's not at the expense of people accepting their global responsibilities.

布朗：當然，國家認同是重要的。

And I think one of the problems of recession

但不能因此把全球責任棄之不顧

is that people become more protectionist,

When you actually look at the motor of the world economy,

unless there is trade between the different countries.

And any nation that would become protectionist over the next few years

would deprive itself of the chance of getting the benefits

So, you've got to have a healthy sense of patriotism;

無法分享世界經濟發展的利益。

But you've got to realize that this world has changed fundamentally,

and the problems we have cannot be solved by one nation and one nation alone.

但你也要了解這世界已經根本的改變

But what do you do when the two come into conflict

安德森：的確，但是當這兩個概念有所衝突

that either is in Britain's interest, or the interest of Britons,

而您必需有所抉擇時，您該怎麽做呢？

that what is necessary for Britain's long-term interests,

what is necessary for America's long-term interests,

is proper engagement with the rest of the world,

There is a great story, again, told about Richard Nixon.

去適當地與全球其他地區的互動

Richard Nixon goes to represent the United States government

at the celebrations for independence in Ghana.

And it's one of his first outings as Vice President to an African country.

這是他首次以副總統的身份去非洲國家訪問

因為不確定該怎麽做，於是他走進人群

and he says to people in this rather unique way,

And he's going around, "How does it feel to be free?"

邊走邊問”自由的感覺怎麽樣？“

"How should I know? I come from Alabama."

結果有個人回答 “我哪知道？我是從阿拉巴馬來的”

is that civil rights in America were achieved in the 1960s.

is socioeconomic rights in Africa have not moved forward very fast

And yet, America and Africa have got a common interest.

And we have got to realize that if we don't link up

with those people who are sensible voices and democratic voices in Africa,

我們必須知道，如果我們不串起

then the danger of Al Qaeda and related groups

So, I would say that what seems sometimes

to be altruism, in relation to Africa, or in relation to developing countries,

It is enlightened self-interest for us to work with other countries.

and, if you like, what is the global interest

And whatever the short-run price for taking action on climate change

or on security, or taking action to provide opportunities

so that you build a stronger global society

為安全問題採取行動，或為其他人

where people feel able to feel comfortable with each other

and are able to communicate with each other in such a way

that you can actually build stronger links between different countries.

你將建立一個更健全的全球社會

CA: I still just want to draw out on this issue.

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