People would empty all their drawers, fill it with gold, the attic and everything

人們會清空所有的抽屜 閣樓和一切用來裝滿黃金

but if it kept raining gold for months, they'd sweep it up, throw their rings away.

但如果一直下幾個月的黃金雨 人們會掃除黃金 並把自己的戒指丟掉

Scarcity. They save the gold because it has a value now

匱乏性 人們保存黃金是因為它有價值

but it only has a value as long as it's scarce.

只要黃金仍然匱乏 它就一直有一個價值

But if we find a whole mountain of gold, it would lose its value.

但如果我們發現了一整座黃金山 它就會失去它的價值

Scarcity is one of the main operating characteristics that produces

在很大程度上 匱乏性是人們為了黃金而殺伐的

on a large extent 'murder for gold'.

主要運作原因之一

Wherever you've got the history of the diamond, you've got all kinds of horrors behind it.

只要你知道鑽石的歷史 你就知道鑽石產業背後的各種慘狀

In the future

在未來

people will be ashamed to wear things like that.

人們穿戴這種東西會感到羞愧

Roxanne's father was a jeweler, always trying to give her things to wear.

羅克珊的父親是一位珠寶匠 總是試著給她穿戴各種東西

She doesn't want any of that shit

她不想要任何那些垃圾

but there are people who feel that this diamond is worth $100,000.

但會有些人覺得鑽石價值十萬美元

They would never achieve peace

他們永遠無法獲得平靜

because there's always somebody that's got a bigger diamond than they have.

因為總是有別人得到了比他們更大的鑽石

If you put up the largest building in the world

如果你在世界上造了一個最大的建築物

then another guy will beat your building by 200 feet.

那麼另一個傢伙 就會以比你高200英尺的高度擊敗你的建築

And you say "God damn it! I'm going to put up another building."

然後你會說:"可惡 我要建立另一個更高的建築"

This sickness that we have, there's no end to it.

我們面臨這樣的病態困境 而且永無止盡

The richest man in the world...

世界上最富有的人...

I would be ashamed if I were the richest man in the world

如果我是世界上最富有的人 我會感到羞愧

because I know that the public made me the richest man in the world.

因為我知道 是大眾讓我成為世界上最富有的人

I'd want to build schools and hospitals with the money.

我會使用這些錢建造學校和醫院

I would see no other use for it

我不會想到其它無益的用途

but to give back to society what I've taken.

而是要把從社會得到的退還給社會

- We feel that within a monetary system

我們認為在一個金融貨幣體系中

the system cannot be just or equitable.

這個體系無法公正與合理

There'll always be haves and have-nots.

永遠存在富人和窮人

A Resource-Based Economy would eliminate that.

資源導向型經濟將會消除這些

The problems that we have today will continue to go on.

否則我們今天的問題將繼續下去

There'll always be busts and booms, markets going up and down

永遠是蕭條與繁榮 市場好轉與衰退

and people manipulating for their own advantage

以及人們為了自己的優勢而操縱市場

and this will never go away within a monetary system

這在金融貨幣體系中永遠不會消失

because there'll always be people with advantage.

因為總是會有佔據優勢的人

Within a Resource-Based Economy, what we want to do is to eliminate

在資源導向型經濟中 我們想做的就是消除

the causes of the problems, eliminate the processes

這些問題的原因 消除產生出

that produce greed, bigotry, prejudice

貪婪 偏執 偏見的過程

people taking advantage of one another, elitism

人們彼此利用互佔便宜 菁英主義

and really eliminating

以及真正消除

the need for prisons and welfare.

對於監獄和社會福利的需要

When you make things available to people

當你把東西提供給所有人的時候

you don't have the problems that you have today.

你不會遇到今天會碰到的種種問題

We've always had these problems because we've always lived within scarcity

我們一直面對這樣的問題 因為我們一直存在於匱乏中

barter and monetary systems that produce scarcity.

處於以物易物 與產生匱乏的金融貨幣體系之中

We're talking about a Resource-Based Economy

我們討論的是資源導向型經濟

which makes things available to everyone.

它把資源提供給每一個人

- I look at this system differently.

我對這個體系有不同看法

I see a tough job ahead; it's not easy.

我看到前方的任務困難重重 這並不簡單

I see a lot of assassination and a lot of imprisonment

我看到非常多的暗殺和監禁

and cops beating people that are good.

以及警察打人也算是好的

And the cops not knowing any better.

因為警察也不知道其它更好的方法

Because they've joined the police force they believe they're holding law and order.

因為他們加入了警隊 他們相信他們掌握著法律和秩序

In their heads they're doing the right thing.

在他們的頭腦中 他們認為自己所為是正確的

Whenever you're in trouble you call a policeman.

因為當你有麻煩的時候 你會向警察求助

All of these built-in systems are going to have to be surpassed.

所有這些根深蒂固的思維都必須要超越

- The only thing I can see that's really negative of this system that we talk about

關於我們討論的資源導向型經濟 唯一我認為真正麻煩的地方

a Resource-Based Economy, is getting from here to there.

是要如何從當下達到那個境界

We have a lot of things we have to do

我們有許多必須做的事

to take care of the detrimental things that we did in this society.

去應付我們現在的社會中有害的事

We have to clean up the environment, the oceans, the air

我們必須清理環境 海洋 空氣

and clean up the detrimental values that people have from this society

清理人們從這個社會中 養成的負面價值觀

of greed and embezzlement

貪婪和盜用侵吞

and 'me for myself,' not caring about anyone else.

以及"各人自掃門前雪 莫管他人瓦上霜"的觀念

The hardest thing will be...

最困難的將會是...

That's what the problems will be for sociologists

那將是社會學家

and people who care about other people: to change values

以及關心他人的人們要想辦法的事:去改變觀念

and to start afresh from children to care for others and take care of the Earth.

從孩子開始去關心別人和這個地球

That's what our education will be like.

我們的教育會是這樣的

- There's no way of you, in a given culture, saying

在一個特定的環境中 你不會說:

"I'm not going to remain a gypsy; that's ridiculous

"我不會繼續是一個吉普賽人

to wear these earrings and headbands."

因為穿戴這些耳環和頭飾很可笑"

If you walk over to Seminole Indians and you say, dancing around the fire

如果你走過塞米諾爾印第安人身邊 並且圍著火堆跳舞

"LALALALA," to Iroquois or any other Indians. That's ridiculous!

對著易洛魁人或者其它印第安人說"啦啦啦啦" 那太可笑了!

The Indians say "That's a hell of a good point, LALALA. " That doesn't mean anything.

印第安人說:"這是一個好主意 啦啦啦" 但這不代表什麼

You can't do that. It's no more possible

你不能這樣做 因為沒有更多的可能性

to take a group of cannibals, headhunters and say

例如對著食人族部落的獵頭人說:

"What you're doing is ridiculous ," and the chief saying

"你正在做的事很荒謬" 但酋長會說:

"You know, that's a great in-depth concept."

"你要知道 這是一個偉大的奧妙概念"

He doesn't have that associative system.

酋長沒有那種"不能獵人頭"的觀念

People think "If I, as a Christian, I just can get there

人們認為:"如果我是一個基督徒 我只需要到那裡

and tell them about the sacrifice of Christ..."

並告訴他們有關基督做出的犧牲..."

You can take Polynesians that have food and all of that, and they're eating

你可以想想豐衣足食的玻里尼西亞人 他們正在吃飯

they'll go do anything and listen to anything and you can condition them

他們會去做並聽你說的事情 而且你可以影響制約他們

to worship Jesus or anybody, or Allah

讓他們信仰耶穌或者任何人 或真主阿拉

but you go to a scarcity country where people are not eating

但你若去了一個匱乏的國家 人們都沒有食物

and try to give them Christ without food...

並嘗試向他們宣傳基督教 而不帶去食物...

The church, if it doesn't provide food, has no attendance

教堂如果不提供食物 就不會有人出席

so the early churches provided dinners and food for starving people

所以初期教會為饑民提供晚餐和食品

so that some of them went to church.

因此 他們之中的一些人會去教堂

You've got to have gimmicks. It's a fishhook!

你得有誘餌 就像一個魚鉤!

Bait, and that's what commercials are.

誘餌 就是所謂的廣告

Fine print is an attempt at deception.

漂亮的印刷文字試圖去欺騙人們

I know of no other way except presenting information, real [information]

除了提供訊息 真正有用的訊息 我想不出其它有效的方法

and if our system is not sophisticated enough

如果我們的體系沒有那麼複雜的話

or you don't have enough time left before we come to the point of no return...

或是在我們走向不歸路之前 其實我們已經沒有足夠的時間了...

We've damaged the oceans and the environment to such an extent

我們對海洋和環境的損害 已經到了這樣的程度

that we don't have the means

我們可能沒有辦法

and the organizations to do away with that.

和組織去解決那些問題了

And that means a miserable death for most people

這意味著大部分的人將會悲慘地死亡

the end of our civilization.

我們文明的終結

That's why Roxanne and I... We have no power.

這也是為什麼羅克珊和我... 我們沒有力量

People say "When are you and Roxanne going to build this new world?

人們說:"你和羅克珊何時才要建立這個新世界?"

I get calls "I'd come with my suitcases, be happy to live in it!"

我還接到電話 對方說:"我會拿出我的旅行箱 很高興能住在這(維納斯計畫)!"

We don't need that.

但我們不需要那樣

We need your participation and support to make it happen.

我們需要各位的參與和支持 來實現這個願景

You have an avenue which may work.

所以就算你有可行的可能解決方案

There's nothing else out there.

但結果什麼事都沒發生...