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  • Jamy said he wanted a song

  • But the intro he emailed me was long

  • So I'm gonna have to just play a drone

  • And read what he sent me off my phone

  • Magician, author, speaker and skeptic.

  • Co-founder of the National Capital Area Skeptics.

  • Co-founder of the New York City Skeptics.

  • For the JREF he serves as chairman of the Advisory Committee to the President

  • and on the Million Dollar Challenge subcommittee.

  • He was onstage to host the opening night proceedings of the very first TAM!

  • And has been a presenter, moderator and performer at every TAM,

  • except for one, but who's counting?

  • So Jamy said he wanted a song

  • That's it. Ladies and gentleman, the one and only Jamy Ian Swiss!

  • [Cheering, applause]

  • I got a song.

  • Hi!

  • My name is Jamy.

  • (Hi, Jamy!)

  • And I'm a skeptic.

  • [Cheering]

  • What does that mean?

  • What does that mean?

  • Well, here's a book, with the definition of 'skepticism'.

  • There's been a lot of heated discussion about this subject lately...

  • [Laughter]

  • That's it, that's all the magic crap you get from me this morning.

  • Maybe you get a card trick later at the bar, try me out, no promises.

  • That's it for now.

  • As a skeptical activist for more than 25 years,

  • one of the discussions I've engaged in countless times,

  • probably from my time helping to write the first by-laws

  • for the National Capital Area Skeptics in 1987,

  • is the meaning of 'skepticism'.

  • Not only in terms of what it means to individuals,

  • but also organizations and indeed from the vantage of being part of a social movement,

  • because skepticism is all those things:

  • it's a personal world view,

  • it's an organizational mission

  • and it's a social movement.

  • So what does it mean to be a skeptic?

  • And what is the skeptic mission?

  • The original skeptic organization created in 1976: CSICOP

  • Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal,

  • now known as CSI,

  • — I guess those folks don't watch TV

  • [Laughter]

  • offer these words as part of their mission statement, quote:

  • "The mission of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry is to promote scientific inquiry,

  • critical investigation and the use of reason in examining controversial and extraordinary claims."

  • Michael Shermer's Skeptic Society, in addition to its online mission statement,

  • defines skepticism nicely as follows:

  • "Skepticism is a provisional approach to claims.

  • It is the application of reason to any and all ideasno sacred cows allowed.

  • In other words, skepticism is a method, not a position."

  • Many such precedent-setting mission statements,

  • including from groups I've personally been involved with:

  • National Capital Area Skeptics, New York City Skeptics, the JREF itself,

  • and you can read the JREF mission statement right in the TAM program

  • ...many such skeptical mission statements will be useful and informative

  • in defining the meaning and scope of skeptical activism.

  • You can find mission statements of countless skeptic organizations online.

  • You'll see many such ideas similarly expressed.

  • But I had to summarize or abbreviate all of that, I would say this:

  • That scientific skepticism is a way of thinking.

  • It is *not* about how-

  • It is about *how* to think, and not about *what* to think.

  • And the question of what it means to be a skeptic,

  • or what the mission of a skeptics organization comprises

  • has always been interesting to me and to us.

  • But today, as the movement continues to expand in many directions,

  • and indeed succeed in many ways, the question has become as or more important than ever.

  • Because I believe that in some ways we have become victims of a kind of success.

  • A success that has led at times to confusion within and among ourselves.

  • It might be hard to think of the skeptic movement as a success

  • when you look at the numbers of percentages of Americans

  • who believe in psychics and conspiracy theories,

  • anti-vaxx paranoia and so much more toxic nonsense.

  • But everything's relative and surveys show that fewer Americans for example

  • today believe in psychic phenomena than they did twenty years ago.

  • A 2009 CBS poll... identified a decline of about 7% over a twenty year period.

  • That is one kind of success,

  • and I think skeptical activists can likely claim a hand, part of that progress.

  • That's good news.

  • Also the movement has grown wildly in numbers:

  • numbers of individuals, numbers of organizations and activities and gatherings...

  • And that too is very much a measure of success.

  • I mentioned last night there is some 200 skeptic-related groups who include meet-ups

  • Skeptics in the Pub and such

  • and that is not including atheist or humanist groups,

  • just skeptical activities and that's great.

  • That's a very different thing than 36 years ago

  • when there was only one organization

  • trying to define itself and a fledgling movement.

  • When it's just one group, it's easy to keep everybody under the same umbrella or in the party line.

  • But as a movement grows in size, activists and organizations spend more time

  • refining and often arguing about the more finely tuned differences

  • in focus and opinion and perspective within the movement.

  • And this is where we find ourselves now. Often to our detriment.

  • It's not a bad thing to be having these conversations;

  • we will always need to continue to have them,

  • but it can be unfortunate to be battling over those conversations

  • and allowing those battles to distract us and to spill over and in view of the larger public

  • to whom we are trying to communicate a message.

  • And I think that, to use the magicians' term, we've been misdirected in a way.

  • By our successes.

  • We've all been so happy and excited to welcome everyone into the club,

  • for a while we didn't realize there were significant differences

  • between various kinds of folks in the clubs,

  • all of whom self-identify as "skeptics".

  • Specifically for one example,

  • I think we've been misdirected, and we've misdirected our own selves,

  • by the visible growth and success of the so-called New Atheist movement.

  • Now, don't get your undies in a bunch.

  • At least not yet.

  • [Laughter]

  • I'm an atheist! As I've said on countless first dates in my life.

  • I'm not just an atheist, I'm an atheist with an attitude!

  • BUT!

  • But! But! But!

  • I'm not an atheist activist.

  • I'm a skeptical activist.

  • I have nothing against atheist activism, I'm in favor of it! I support it!

  • I'm a strong supporter of the Richard Dawkins Foundation,

  • and their approach to atheist activism; I've got a red A on my badge.

  • But neither am I a skeptical humanist activist, for that matter.

  • I don't particularly identify as a "Secular Humanist" capital "S" capital "H" kind of way.

  • Even though I certainly am a humanist philosophically, and I've attended and presented and performed

  • at humanist gatherings on behalf of CFI and the American Humanist Association.

  • But I say it again: I'm not an atheist activist. I'm not a humanist activist.

  • I'm a skeptical activist.

  • And by very deliberate choice.

  • And I think that I can explain why for myself in pretty simple terms.

  • If skepticism is a broad-based way of thinking about claims,

  • and trying to figure out what is and is not true,

  • then atheism is simply skepticism applied to a single extraordinary claim.

  • But I care about *all* of 'em.

  • We've all heard the statement:

  • give a man a fish, feed him for a day;

  • teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime.

  • Here's my version for skeptics:

  • Tell a man what to think, feed his head with one idea;

  • teach him how to think, feed his head with a lifetime of ideas.

  • That's why I'm a skeptical activist.

  • [Applause]

  • I'm not arguing against atheist activism,

  • I'm just talking about why *I* am a skeptical activist,

  • and how that's different.

  • As skeptics we should not be committed to what to think, but to how to think.

  • We don't need to tell other people what to think in order to be accepted

  • as students of critical thinking, which is what we all are.

  • And that's what we should be modelling.

  • I have little interest in devoting myself to advocating simply for an outcome.

  • I have great interest in advocating for a particular process of thinking.

  • And I have zero interest in any implication that there should be any sort of litmus test

  • of conclusions reached that should serve as requirements for entering the skeptic tent.

  • If you're interested in the scientific method...

  • [Applause]

  • If you're interested in the scientific method and rational means of inquiry,

  • if you're interested in empiricism and what it tells us about the world

  • and methods of critical thinking as a way to discover more about that world every day,

  • then you're welcome in my skeptical tent.

  • And I don't really care if you bring some pet cooky idea with you,

  • or on the other hand you simply haven't gotten quite all the way down the path yet to atheism.

  • I don't in any way believe in or support that kind of political correctness in skepticism.

  • [Applause]

  • My reasoning is this: if someone embraces the basic tenets of critical thinking,

  • of reason and rational inquiry,

  • of the scientific method as a way of determining truths about the natural world and the universe

  • then I believe that person is going to make the world a better place.

  • And if they embrace that way of thinking just a little more today than they did yesterday,

  • they're going to make the world a better place *today*!

  • Because they're gonna make better decisions and help others to make better decisions

  • and that's the only way the human race is going

  • to solve the problems we're faced with in our world

  • and that's the way I want my fellow human beings

  • to contribute to making decisions

  • that affect me, and affect us all, everyone of us, on the planet.

  • So I want to welcome people who are willing to apply a process

  • of using scientific and critical thinking to reach a conclusion

  • regardless of what they believe today.

  • I don't have to agree with their conclusions.

  • As long as they are willing to apply that process

  • and are open to revising those conclusions.

  • So while I personally might like to think that embracing scientific skepticism is likely

  • to lead to an eventual embrace of atheism,

  • I'm willing to bide my time,

  • and accept the best of what people have offer along that path

  • even if they never get there.

  • As Steven Novella has written, quote:

  • "I prefer to give people critical thinking skills and a love for science,

  • and not worry about their faith."

  • But there's another reason why, as skeptics, we need to think clearly about these distinctions.

  • And that's because the world is full of atheists who are not skeptics.

  • When we were starting up the New York City Skeptics,

  • one of my co-founders was involved with some atheist meet-ups.

  • When were calling our first public gatherings, I cautioned my skeptic colleagues that,

  • while the atheist meet-ups were very good places to start to get the word out

  • and attract new people to our new skeptic organization, nevertheless those meet-up folks

  • were not necessarily going to comprise a lot of our eventual target demographic.

  • Sure enough, at our first Skeptics in the Pub,

  • I ended up arguing with a woman about the book The Secret.

  • You know? Oprah Winfrey fragrant.

  • Now, that book is a toxic... sorry.

  • That book is toxic pseudoscience, *cover to cover*!

  • Filled with ancient recycled ideas that are both wrong and very, very bad.

  • But this woman was an atheist who didn't have the first clue about what I was saying

  • and could see nothing wrong with the book, no matter what I said.

  • Several years ago my wife Kandace set out to form a...

  • a rational parenting meet-up group.

  • She decided to call it Atheist Parenting.

  • So I cautioned it might not attract the demographic she was looking for,

  • which was: we were looking for like-minded skeptical parents.

  • But at the same time our boys were just entering school

  • and hearing the word "God" for the first time in their lives,

  • thanks to the Pledge of Allegiance, and we were suitably freaked out by all that...

  • ...and so it became the Atheist Parenting meet-up.

  • And at the very first meeting,

  • a woman turned to Kandace and asked: "So, what's your sign?!"

  • [Laughter]

  • We were at a dinner a couple months ago with Elizabeth Cornwell, Sean Faircloth and Richard Dawkins

  • and Kandace told the five of us this story.

  • And when she finished, Richard's eyes got literally wide and he goes:

  • "That did not happen!"

  • [Laughter]

  • "Oh yes, it did!"

  • [Laughter]

  • How do you say: "Oh no it didn't!" in a British accent? I don't know.

  • [Laughter]

  • You know what you get when people come to skepticism... sorry.

  • You know what you get when people come to atheism

  • through routes other than scientific skepticism and a scientific worldview?

  • You get Bill Maher!

  • [Applause]

  • A guy who is an outspoken atheist, which some of us love,

  • and also an anti-science anti-vaxxer dangerous ignoramus,

  • promoting toxic anti-science nonsense that KILLS people!

  • This is a place that as a skeptic, I have to disagree with Richard Dawkins.

  • He's indicated on this stage in a conversation with DJ Grothe

  • that he's ok with accepting Bill Maher as an ally

  • because Richard's priority as an activist is to combat religion.

  • I'm not willing to accept that brokered alliance.

  • It's not a minor footnote to me that Bill Maher is anti-vaxx.

  • It's not just something, it's everything!

  • He's not an atheist and a *kind* of weak skeptic;

  • he's an atheist and he's my goddamn enemy!

  • He's an enemy of my movement.

  • He's making the world a worse place.

  • A more dangerous place by promoting anti-science and bad thinking.

  • He's not even close to being my ally; I don't give a damn he's an atheist;

  • Screw Bill Maher!

  • [Cheering, applause]

  • So as a skeptical activist, I welcome believers into the skeptic tent,

  • with the proviso they get *no free pass*

  • and they must be prepared to be argued with about those beliefs

  • and occasionally mocked

  • but I think it's quite possible that

  • the genuine skeptic and critical thinker who *happens* to believe in God,

  • is probably making my world a better place today

  • than a faith-based atheist who is not really a skeptic.

  • [Applause]

  • So what do I think all this means for the skeptic movement

  • and for the discussion of the skeptic mission?

  • It means this: that skepticism is not atheism, is not secular humanism.

  • All these movements have things in common and share parts of their world views,

  • big parts for many of us

  • but the distinctions between them are critically important.

  • Not because they're distinctions we should be battling over.

  • Quite the contrary in my view.

  • Rather they are distinctions we should be clarifying

  • for everyone's comfort and focus and mutual effectiveness.

  • Not to draw battle lines between us, but to allow allies to better focus

  • their particular armies on their particular battlefields in the same war.

  • The army, navy, marines, air force; all fighting on the same side.

  • But I said we got misdirected by success.

  • When the so-called New Atheists came along, skeptic were delighted, and why wouldn't we be?

  • Many of us are in fact atheists,

  • and much of the New Atheism was "science-based atheism" if you will.

  • And, you know, that's atheism that grows from a scientific world view,

  • and certainly that's the message Dawkins brought the table,

  • Daniel Dennett among others put forward;

  • and what's more: all these folks self-identified as skeptics!

  • "Hell yeah, we're skeptics!" they declared.

  • Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens both spoke at TAM and then became regulars.

  • Dan Dennett spoke in here as well.

  • And atheists particularly seem to share priorities with secular humanists.

  • Important priorities: they're deeply committed to issues about church-state separation,

  • the encroachment of religion on education and freedom of speech,

  • creationism versus evolution and so on...

  • What good skeptic doesn't agree with all that?

  • So there's little question that in a Venn diagram portraying

  • skepticism, atheism and secular humanism, there's a great deal of overlap.

  • But I would say that these are, to adapt a phrase from Stephen Jay Gould:

  • "overlapping magisteria".

  • I think that for those whose atheism springs from a scientific worldview

  • that atheism, humanism and skepticism are overlapping, non-competing magisteria,

  • that should not be a conflict, but they are also not the same things.

  • If anything, [Applause]

  • I'd suggest that the most unifying, overarching vantage among the three is probably skepticism.

  • Oddly enough in my personal experience,

  • skeptics often do possess the broadest vision among the three magisteria.

  • I've been to humanist gatherings and had countless conversations

  • with people there who had never heard of Randi, never heard of CSICOP.

  • And yet many skeptics in my experience tend to be reasonably informed

  • about the basics of both atheism and secular humanism.

  • Now,

  • one way that skeptics and skeptic organizations set ourselves apart from

  • other overlapping movements who may be more focused on religion,

  • is by saying that we are purely concerned with testable claims,

  • whereas we hold no position in so-called "faith claims".

  • That is to say, if you believe in God based purely on faith,

  • that's not a testable claim, so we have no argument with you;

  • if you claim that prayer works, that's a testable claim,

  • and now that's where the skeptic enters the argument.

  • This is a workable stance so far as it gets you.

  • Philosophically it's a bit of a cludge.

  • It's a practical if imperfect workaround.

  • I mean, after all: if someone comes into a skeptic meeting

  • and says they believe in ghosts purely on faith,

  • or in ESP, UFOs, Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster based on faith and faith alone,

  • and they don't claim any of the claims of epistemological evidence,

  • would we, as skeptics, give such folks a completely free pass?

  • I don't think so.

  • Similarly, it's pretty much a fiction that people believe in God purely on faith alone.

  • It misunderstands the realities of faith and the complexities of belief.

  • Most people will claim that they've arrived at that position reasonably,

  • rationally, and that they have evidence to boot.

  • And they do have evidence.

  • Whether it's the blind watchmaker or the working eyeball that might lead them

  • to conclude it's all too complicated to be made at random, right?

  • Now, we think that's not good evidence, sure, but that doesn't make it *not* evidence.

  • You have to realize that to someone else, it *is* evidence.

  • It's just weak evidence by the standards of critical thinking

  • and the scientific method, which are our guiding principles.

  • Our challenge is to help explain to people the difference

  • between that kind of evidence and better evidence.

  • But for practical purposes and perhaps even for strategic purposes,

  • testable claims and empiricism are very sound places to pitch your tent

  • in the skeptic movement.

  • And atheism, I would say, is not the best ground for skeptics to pitch that tent.

  • Now, not because you might offend people,

  • or because religion should be given any sort of special pass.

  • It's not only a weak position,

  • I don't think it's a real position, it's an imaginary one.

  • It's one I only seem to hear or see

  • as a straw man that atheist activists accuse skeptics of promoting.

  • I've never seen an actual position presented these days by skeptics.

  • I can't find any skeptic organization or skeptic thought leader who thinks today

  • that any area or subject should be given a free pass from fair and open inquiry,

  • and in fact, skepticism is generally promoted within the movement

  • as a thinking toolkit that must be broadly applied to *all* available subjects.

  • As the Skeptic Society says, right? "No sacred cows."

  • But again, testable claims is the skeptic's home turf.

  • Among the JREF's most visible and successful projects

  • besides this remarkable and fabulous conference

  • is our legendary Million Dollar Challenge,

  • and quite simply, the MDC is literally about testable claims.

  • Testable claims is a viable dynamic cause for skeptics,

  • because we address testable claims where no one else does.

  • We care in ways that no one else does,

  • and we are uniquely qualified to do it and talk about it.

  • Quick story: I was once sitting next to Carly Simon in a random celebrity encounter

  • in a beautiful Manhattan movie theater, the Ziegfeld.

  • I tried to conceal it when she sat down, but she noticed this pack of cards

  • I'd just been sitting there practicing with, waiting for the movie.

  • And she asked if I could do her some magic, so I did,

  • and somehow that led to a brief conversation about mysticism and skepticism and psychics...

  • And so finally she asked me: "So you don't believe in *anything*...?"

  • And after trying to explain testable claims for a while,

  • she finally pulled back, wound up and hit me

  • with the biggest gun she could muster:

  • "But, what about the flowers?! What about the trees?!"

  • [Laughter]

  • Ok, well that's why she's a songwriter, not a scientist. But alright!

  • [Laughter]

  • But anyway, interestingly enough, thinking about testable claims though,

  • can also help us to think clearly about where skeptics can appropriately extend our reach

  • to a wider range of social issues and the subject of diversity.

  • Barbara Drescher, who has written extensively and very articulately

  • about the skeptic mission, has said this, quote:

  • "Skeptics promote scientific skepticism,

  • because they agree that it is the best way to evaluate claims.

  • They don't necessarily agree on political, economic and social issues."

  • And that was the point that DJ Grothe made in last year's panel discussion on diversity,

  • which unintentionally became a debate about the skeptic mission,

  • – a debate engaged in, as it turned out, by a rather non-diverse panel of all atheists

  • DJ said this, quote:

  • "Where testable claims and pseudoscience cross paths with social issues like gay rights,

  • that's where skeptics can and should take up the charge."

  • If you want to focus on gay rights as your issue beyond the realm of testable claims

  • this is me talking now

  • join a gay rights organization.

  • JREF, led as it is by two gay men, is not a gay rights organization.

  • The JREF is a skeptics' organization,

  • that will *aggressively* address issues of concern to the gay rights movement,

  • when those subjects cross into our particular areas of interest, expertise and activism.

  • And finally, here is Daniel Loxton, another important contributor

  • to the ideas and principles about the skeptic mission,

  • on this relationship between testable claims and diversity.

  • Quote: "This empirical focus has allowed the skeptical community,

  • old and white and bearded as it may have been...

  • [Little laughter]

  • to enjoy other kinds of diversity.

  • If political ideology is not a topic for our movement,

  • then anarchists, libertarians, liberals and conservatives

  • can happily share the same big skeptic tent.

  • If science-based skepticism is neutral about non-scientific moral values,

  • then the community can embrace people who hold

  • a wide range of perspectives on values issues.

  • On the environment, public schools, nuclear power, same-sex marriage,

  • taxation, gun control, military, veganism, and so on."

  • Close quote.

  • So, skeptics educate about science and about thinking.

  • We are also interested in particular importance

  • the dangers of paranormal and pseudoscientific claims.

  • And finally, we are consumer advocates.

  • As DJ Grothe put it to me in a recent email:

  • "What the topics in the Skeptical Canon have in common,

  • are where consumer protection meets science education;

  • that's the skeptics' unique work.

  • Normal scientists don't have the time to tackle all these issues,

  • normal consumer protection folks lack the expertise."

  • And Daniel Loxton has pointed out

  • that working scientists don't only lack the time,

  • they often lack the expertise in the nonsense side of things.

  • He makes this interesting comparison.

  • Quote:

  • "Consider the example of debating creationism.

  • In the past, creationists typically ran rings around biologists.

  • This is not because scientists lack knowledge of science,

  • but because scientists lack specialized knowledge of nonsense.

  • [Laughter]

  • That's where *we* come in!"

  • [Applause]

  • This is Loxton talking. [Applause]

  • [Applause]

  • This a great point, and this is... I'm still quoting from Daniel.

  • "This is where we came in:

  • the history and rhetoric of nonsense as a specialized niche area for our arena.

  • Skeptics perform an essential public service when we concentrate on that."

  • Close quote.

  • Now, when talking about long-standing strengths and

  • subjects of the skeptics movement these days

  • eventually we run headlong into the notion of so-called "Skepticism 2.0":

  • of the dangerous and I would even say *offensive*...

  • idea, suggestion that the long-standing Skeptical Canon somehow doesn't matter

  • or no longer matters.

  • Daniel Loxton puts it well. He writes this:

  • "In my view, consumer protection is the most foundational function of the skeptics movement.

  • We investigate, report on and promote awareness about products

  • which are generally ineffective, sometimes dangerous and occasionally deadly,

  • and which no other watchdog group bothers to research.

  • That work is important, it's hard, we're underfunded,"

  • this is still Daniel

  • "we're underfunded, we're overwhelmed and it's often hard to see the stakes.

  • Who cares about yet another distasteful little scam?

  • Yet somebody has to do it! I can't drive that point home hard enough.

  • The job isn't done. It will never be done.

  • The need for this work has not diminished just because we grew sick of doing it.

  • People have no less need to hear the message, just because we grew tired of saying it."

  • Close quote.

  • And I agree.

  • I believe that skeptics should unapologetically reaffirm our commitment to these strengths

  • and not be embarrassed about these concerns,

  • and not retreat on these concerns,

  • and not dilute our priorities in the name of subjects or problems

  • that are somehow supposedly "bigger" or "more important".

  • [Applause]

  • How can anyone claim that pseudoscience and the paranormal doesn't matter

  • when significant portions of the American population

  • believe in all sorts of pseudoscientific and paranormal claims?

  • How can you say these core subjects and causes no longer matter

  • when Americans spend billions of dollars on bottles of *nothing*

  • because they're advertised widely as "homeopathy"?

  • Billions of dollars that could make the world a better place

  • if spent in a number of countless ways, as long as they were real.

  • How can you say pseudoscience and the paranormal isn't dangerous

  • in the face of the anti-vaxx movement?

  • Or the fact that a dowsing machine was used

  • to find bombs that were killing American soldiers?!

  • How can you say psychic fraud doesn't matter

  • when there is a steady stream of news stories about victims

  • who give up life savings to psychic con artists?

  • Do you think it mattered to the victims?!

  • [Applause]

  • If you self-identify as a skeptic,

  • but these issues somehow don't matter enough or particularly to you,

  • and you think the dangers and ills of religion, for example, are what really matter,

  • then I thank you sincerely for your support of skepticism.

  • Please continue to attend our conferences, maybe even send us a contribution.

  • And then also, please go and devote yourself

  • to the cause which you believe should be your personal priority.

  • That's fine!

  • All of that is good!

  • You're still welcome in my skeptics tent.

  • But the one thing that is neither fine nor good,

  • is to come into my skeptics tent and declaring that you are moving it.

  • [Little laughter, applause]

  • The fact that an expanding movement is clarifying its different points of focus

  • is a fine and logical and reasonable and *inevitable* phenomenon.

  • The fact that an expanding movement is *fighting* over those differences

  • is *not* a good thing.

  • We waste our valuable time, our limited resources,

  • not to mention damage our perception in the public eye

  • when we treat 'fences between good neighbors' as Daniel Loxton likes to call it,

  • as battle lines between combatants.

  • I don't get it, and I'm here to tell ya, I don't like it!

  • [Applause]

  • Now, magicians have been at the forefront of skepticism

  • since before there was a skeptics movement.

  • There is a reason it says 'magi' in 'magisterium'.

  • [Laughter]

  • Thank you, Thomas.

  • And there are a number of reasons for that.

  • One is that a key subject of the skeptics movement has been the paranormal.

  • And the job skills of magicians and in particular mentalists

  • include creating the illusion of paranormal abilities.

  • Combined with our particular expertise in deception,

  • recognizing it, understanding how it works,

  • these knowledge bases are all critically pertinent to observing and testing the paranormal.

  • Many years ago I heard Randi say, and I've been saying it ever since:

  • "My expertise is narrow and deep.

  • I know how to fool people,

  • and I know how to recognize when people are being fooled."

  • There's also the appropriate role of the magician in parapsychology laboratory

  • or anywhere, that we can help scientists protect themselves, specifically from deception.

  • Randi wrote about this very eloquently recently in

  • an excellent opinion piece in Wired Magazine.

  • If you haven't read it, go look it up.

  • But what magicians have to offer does not stop there.

  • Magicians also deeply understand a profoundly important lesson:

  • that anyone can be fooled.

  • *Anyone*.

  • That may be the greatest lesson that magicians have to teach.

  • Anyone can be fooled, including skeptics.

  • Many years ago, no less CSICOP and CFI founder Paul Kurtz

  • was taken in by the double-talking mentalist The Amazing Kreskin,

  • who was then embraced as an ally at a CSICOP conference stage.

  • Incredible but true.

  • Because in my book, if you're a magician or a mentalist and you claim to be a skeptic,

  • and you want to be an ally,

  • you want to be considered an ally of the skeptic movement,

  • you need to be willing to do one thing:

  • stand up and say clearly that you use deception and trickery in your work.

  • If you a equivocate on this subject, you may be many things,

  • but as far as I'm concerned you're not a part of my skeptical alliance.

  • It's not enough to *know* the truth to be a skeptic.

  • You have to have the strength of character to be willing to *speak* the truth,

  • and care enough to try to help other people understand what truth means.

  • And with that knowledge that anyone can be fooled

  • comes another important perspective that magicians bring to the table.

  • An understanding, an insight,

  • and I hope empathy, into how and why people are fooled,

  • and it's not because they're stupid.

  • When I post a story on Facebook about someone taken in by a psychic or some street scam,

  • I invariably get some comments: "People deserve what they get",

  • "they're stupid", "there's a sucker born every minute" and so on.

  • This is blaming the victim,

  • and it's another element about which skeptics in particular should be educating the public,

  • presuming they have educated themselves sufficiently first.

  • Just two days ago, I think it was DJ posted a psychic scam story on Facebook,

  • and somebody posted this, quote:

  • "Psychics and their ignorant fans deserve one another."

  • And when skeptics make those kind of comments, I am horrified and disappointed.

  • I don't know if that was from a skeptic, but if it was, shame on you!

  • [Applause]

  • I sometimes find that skeptics on the ground, if you will... you know, in the trenches...

  • Club skeptics, Skeptics in the Pub, skeptics on a blog, can all too often

  • - and that's real skeptics.

  • I mean, that's the real skeptics movement. And community.

  • But they all too often can seem more concerned with being right,

  • than with explaining their thinking.

  • I see this with the subject of psychics and believers all the time.

  • The message should not be to blame the victim or the believer.

  • The skeptic mission in my view is more compassionate than that.

  • And trust me, Randi's always been more compassionate than that.

  • Rather understand what the believer believes, and why the believer believes,

  • and why a victim becomes a victim.

  • These are not easy phenomena to understand or explain.

  • When Banachek and I tested psychics on ABC Nightline a year ago,

  • we got to watch these people up close try to rationalize and explain away

  • why they failed to pass a test about which, when asked beforehand,

  • they were extremely confident in their ability to meet or exceed.

  • We knew this was to happen, we had seen it before.

  • These people's greatest flaw is not that they are stupid,

  • but that they are *human*.

  • And they're stuck with a human brain and all its evolutionarily pre-programmed foibles.

  • What we get to see in these instances is a working demonstration of cognitive dissonance.

  • A cognitive psychology experiment in real time.

  • If all the skeptic can do in the face of that is feel superior,

  • you have missed the point, and you have failed your mission as a skeptic.

  • If you're not sure why people fall for scams and cons, that's fine.

  • Bone up in your skeptical literature, talk to magicians, talk to psychologists,

  • but do not blame the victim.

  • Stop being right.

  • Help somebody to learn how to think better

  • and help them to maybe not be wrong the next time.

  • [Applause]

  • So, magicians bring all these facets of their work and expertise to the skeptic table

  • and perhaps above all one more:

  • a moral stance.

  • Magicians, at least those of us who embrace the skeptical vision,

  • are professional honest liars.

  • We are clear with our audience about the role deception plays in our work

  • and the social contract we maintain with our audience.

  • Skeptics are not only passionate about what is true,

  • but also about what is morally right.

  • And magicians take offense when psychics and con men and cheats

  • use these skills of our legitimate trait for illegitimate purposes.

  • To mislead and take advantage of the innocent, the ill-informed,

  • victimizing people, rather than uplifting them.

  • Magicians bring our righteous indignation to the table,

  • that fueled Houdini, that fuels Randi, and I hope in doing so we inspire

  • everyone in the skeptical movement to share that sense of moral outrage.

  • As activists, we're all trying to change the world;

  • that's right, let's call it what it is.

  • Becoming a skeptical activist for me

  • was a way to put my professional skills to use in service to a social movement.

  • I've been an activist of one sort or another all my life.

  • In my teens, I was involved Democratic elective politics and radical leftist politics.

  • In my twenties, I was a wildlife environmental activist.

  • I believe in constructive social activism, and my skills as a magician and expertise

  • in multiple areas of deception are pertinent, specifically to my work as a skeptic.

  • And my skills as an entertainer and communicator served me in this role as well.

  • H.L. Mencken said: "One horse-laugh is worth ten thousand syllogisms."

  • I love syllogisms, but my profession includes getting horse-laughs.

  • [Little laughter]

  • I heard a story many years ago, I've never forgotten.

  • Isaac Asimov was asked by a reporter a question many of us find ourselves constantly faced with:

  • "What's the harm?"

  • What's the harm in someone believing in something as seemingly innocuous as, say, astrology?

  • And Asimov said this:

  • "It is a loss of opportunity to humanity.

  • We all have limited finite resources in this life of time, energy, money.

  • Every hour and every dollar that is wasted on something that does not exist

  • will never be recovered, not by any individual, not by society as a whole.

  • Every dollar and hour that's invested in something that does not exist,

  • something false, something misleading,

  • is a dollar an hour and a quantity of human energy and effort

  • that could have been invested in something real and which in turn

  • stands a much better chance of contributing to

  • making the world a better place for all of us."

  • So before we even get to the victims,

  • who are robbed of dignity and joy and money and sometimes their lives,

  • by psychics and con men of so many stripes,

  • the cost, the human cost begins with that loss of opportunity.

  • I once attended and event in Washington, D.C. that was advertised as 'a week of healing'

  • by a rather famous and succesful traveling preacher.

  • It was in a very large hall, hired for the purpose.

  • On the road probably more often it was a tent.

  • It was filled to the brim with of thousands of people.

  • Several thousands had been similarly filled no doubt each night of an entire week.

  • After some singing, some prayer and some preaching, the healings began.

  • Various people came to the stage and claimed to be healed,

  • claimed to see what they could not see before,

  • hear what they could not hear before, walk where they could not stand before.

  • The crowd seemed to take quite a celebratory attitude

  • and I remained open-minded to many possibilities.

  • Including the possibility those witnesses who

  • were now testifying to wonderous deeds,

  • might have been on the wonderworker's payroll.

  • I saw him on a man with one leg shorter than the other

  • have his leg visibly lengthened to match the other under the hands of the preacher,

  • one of the oldest carny tricks in the business.

  • Then the preacher extended his arms in benediction

  • and announced that many, many people in the crowd

  • were also now healed of their ailments and concerns.

  • And he asked them to come forward, and any of them who had felt the healing

  • to come forward and testify to their personal miracles.

  • And several people began to come forward to explain they had felt the healing.

  • Their descriptions didn't strike me as particularly wonderous or inexplicable.

  • Seemed more like these folks wanted to just step forward, be part of the excitement,

  • sharing the joy and the attention... Okay, why not?

  • But then a woman came to the microphone.

  • She was shy and awkward, and spoke gently,

  • with what was clearly great gratitude and an overwhelming sense of relief.

  • She stepped up began to speak.

  • And she explained that recently she had detected a lump in her breast.

  • And it had made her afraid.

  • And she had eventually seen her doctor, who had wanted to run some tests.

  • But she was afraid of the tests, and she had waited.

  • And she had not returned to the doctor, because she was afraid.

  • But now, she said, trembling with the release from the weight of her fear,

  • she knew that on this very night, she felt she had come to be healed.

  • And now she knew she *had* been healed.

  • And she *knew* this with such certainty -praise be!-

  • that she knew she did not now even have to return to her doctor again.

  • And she was relieved and grateful, and she thanked the preacher, who then embraced her.

  • And perhaps she contributed some money before the evening was out.

  • It would not surprise me at all; few things do anymore.

  • But WHAT IS THE HARM?!

  • It was probably the first skeptic talk I ever gave

  • in the 1980s, I think it was some scientific research association,

  • in the Q&A I heard a couple of questions I've consistently heard more talks than not ever since.

  • Question: "Do you believe in God?"

  • Answer: "No, but so what?"

  • Question: "Are you optimistic?"

  • Answer:

  • "Hell no!"

  • [Laughter]

  • "I just see skepticism as a dirty job that somebody's got to do."

  • [Applause]

  • But, I'll add to that.

  • It may be a dirty job, but it's not without its benefits.

  • There are worse ways to spend your time than with the great minds of your generation.

  • With the Murray Gell-Manns, or Adam Savage, or Christopher Hitchens, or Dan Dennett,

  • or Richard Dawkins, or Carol Tavris, or Lawrence Krauss,

  • and all the great many friends that I've made here,

  • and I make new ones every year, at TAM.

  • But in fact, as I've said on a panel here about grassroots skepticism,

  • the first and foremost reason for skeptics to organize on a local level

  • is *not* create campaigns and battle pseudoscience,

  • and hold these lectures and write letters to the press,

  • even though all those things are of inestimable value

  • but the first and foremost reason for skeptics to organize,

  • is to connect with like-minded individuals.

  • To help support one another.

  • To educate one another.

  • Enlarge the circles of skepticism by connecting the dots and creating linkages and alliances

  • and going to have a beer together at Skeptics in the Pub.

  • And feel a little less like an isolated fringe.

  • These are perfectly good and legitimate reasons to join together

  • and talk about these issues and ideas that we care about

  • and that we care about,

  • to invoke the name of the JREF podcast

  • that we care about For Good Reason.

  • I'm gonna quote Daniel Loxton one more time.

  • Quote: "It is a false dichotomy to suggest that anything short

  • of eradicating the paranormal is a waste of our time.

  • Thankfully, it is possible to make progress.

  • The assertion that pseudoscience will always exist,

  • is no doubt true, but it is a trivial observation.

  • Disease will always exist, but that doesn't mean we close medical schools.

  • The persistence of paranormal beliefs should not distract us

  • from the truth that skeptics can make progress."

  • Close quote.

  • So, am I optimistic?

  • Hell no!

  • Am I glad to be here with 1200 friends and colleagues who are as jacked up

  • about the cost of pseudoscience and the paranormal

  • and junk science and alternative medicine and and and...?!

  • You bet I am!

  • Will I be glad to sit down with a few of you, old friends and new ones at the bar later tonight,

  • to talk, perhaps argue loudly with and with whom, with even more fun, sometimes violently agree?!

  • [Laughter]

  • You bet your ass I will!

  • Because... I'm a skeptic!

  • Are you a skeptic?!

  • [Cheering]

  • Are you a skeptic?!

  • [Cheering]

  • Great! Me too! Thanks for listening! I'll see you at the bar!

  • [Cheering, applause]

  • Subtitles by Dutch Skeptic

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