字幕列表 影片播放 列印所有字幕 列印翻譯字幕 列印英文字幕 So I have a question for you. 問你們一個問題 Off the top of your head could you sing any music from Star Wars ? 說到《星際大戰》你們腦中出現任何音樂嗎? How about James Bond ? 那《007》呢> Harry Potter ? 《哈利波特》? My last question : can you sing anything from a Marvel movie ? 最後一題:你可以哼出任何漫威電影的音樂嗎? I'm like the biggest Marvel fan that I know and I just... 我是個漫威的鐵粉,但我.... I can't think of any of the songs. 想不出任何音樂 - No. - No... 不能 不能 I should know this, but I don't. 我應該知道的,但我不知道 Shit. 雪特 I didn't know they have, like, theme songs. 我不知道他們有....主題曲 Why is this ? 為什麼會這樣? Because the Marvel cinematic universe is now the highest-grossing franchise in film history. 因為漫威電影宇宙已經是影史上最賣座系列 More than Star Wars, more than James Bond, 比《星際大戰》還多,比《007》還多 more than Harry Potter, 比《哈利波特》還多 so what is missing from their music ? 所以他們的音樂少了些什麼? The first problem is that most of the music doesn't evoke an emotional response. 第一個問題是大部份的配樂無法激盪觀眾的情緒 Take a look at this scene from the first Ironman : 還看看《鋼鐵人》第一集的這一幕 Day 11. Test 37. Configuration 2.0 第11天,第37次測試,設定2.0 For lack of a better option Dummy is still on fire safety. 沒有更好的選擇,Dummy還是負責滅火 If you douse me again and I'm not on fire, I'm donating you to a city college. 如果我沒著火你還噴我,我就把你捐給市立大學去 All right, nice and easy. 好了,慢慢來 It's kind of hard to hear it. So let's try that one more time, 很難聽清楚,所以我們再來一次 But this time with just the music isolated. 但是這次只有配樂 Did you have an emotional reaction to that music ? 對於音樂,你有任何情緒反應嗎? So what happens to the scene if we just take it out ? 如果我們把音樂從這一幕抽離呢? Day 11. Test 37. Configuration 2.0 第11天,第37次測試,設定2.0 For lack of a better option Dummy is still on fire safety. 沒有更好的選擇,Dummy還是負責滅火 If you douse me again and I'm not on fire, I'm donating you to a city college. 如果我沒著火你還噴我,我就把你捐給市立大學去 All right, nice and easy. 好了,慢慢來 The scene works just fine and it doesn't need any other sound. 這一幕如次也沒有問題,它根本不需要任何配樂 And that's partially why you forget the music. 這也是你想不起他們配樂的部分原因 it's like the air conditioner in the background, after awhile you tune it out. 這就像是你把背景的冷氣聲調小一樣 Another problem is that the music is used very predictably. 另一個問題是配樂的使用太好預測了 So that what you see is what you get. 所以你看到什麼,就只有什麼 If you see something funny you hear funny music. 如果你看到好笑的場景,你就會聽到好笑的音樂 If you see something sad, you hear a high note on the strings. 如果你看到悲傷場面,你就會聽到高音弦樂 This is a really safe way to score a film, because all of the emotions are expected. 這其實都是電影配樂的安全牌,因為所有的情感也很有預測性 The music just tells you the same thing as the picture. 這音樂只是在覆誦銀幕上發生的事 If someone looks scared, then you hear : 如果有人受到驚嚇,你就會聽到 And this is the second reason the music is forgettable. 這就是他們的音樂如此沒有記憶感的第二個原因 It never challenges your expectations. 它從來都不會去挑戰你的期待 But sometimes the Marvel films do have memorable music, 但漫威有時候還是有令人難忘的配樂 except the filmmakers don't let us listen to it. 只是製作團隊不讓去聆聽 Instead they cover it up with other sounds like this : 他們寧願把其他的聲音覆蓋上去,像這樣: Denied enlistment due to poor health, 由於身體不好的關係,被拒絕入伍 Steven Rogers was chosen for a program unique in the annals of American warfare, 史提芬.羅傑斯被美國戰爭史上最獨特的計畫選中 one that would transform him into the world's first super soldier. 將他轉化為世界上第 一名超級士兵 That narrator is just telling us things we already know, 旁白說的是我們早就知道的事 And he distracts us from the emotion of the scene. 他其實是在分散我們對於這一幕的醞釀 So how does this moment play without that distraction ? 如果我們將這雜訊從這一幕抽離呢? Did you feel the difference ? 你有不同的感受嗎? Film music is incredibly subjective and it goes through trends. 電影音樂是非常主觀而且也有潮流演變的 And over the last 20 years there has been a cultural shift. 過去20年來,已經有了文化上的轉變 Nowadays a lot of filmmakers feel that music should not be noticed, 很多現在的製作團隊認為配樂是不需要被注意到的環節 That's a contemporary thing that I've heard very frequently, 這是現在我最常聽到的事了 "not supposed to be noticed" "不應該被注意到" Right but, why is it not supposed to be noticed ? 好,但是,為什麼不應該被注意到 I grew up on Alfred Hitchcock's films, Bernard Herrmann, and i noticed every note. 我是看希區考克電影長大的,伯納德·赫爾曼(Bernard Herrmann,美國電影配樂作曲家),他的作品我都有注意到 And I find it a little bit baffling why that seems to be the consciousness 我對於這種趨勢還是感到莫名其妙 of music and film. 音樂和電影 But there is one thing we haven't mentioned yet and it's very important. 有一個我們還沒講到的原因,非常重要 Today blockbuster movie scores are composed to a particular process, 今日電影巨片的配樂製作其實都依循著一個特別的流程 And that process starts with one controversial element : 而這個流程的第一步有著蠻具爭議性的元素 Danny you groaned earlier when someone mentioned temp music, the pros and cons ? 丹尼,剛剛有人提到暫時音軌(Temp Music)時,你哼了一聲。 它有什麼優缺點? For me temp music is the bane of my existence 對我來說,暫時音軌,是我一生的禍害 it's my job to make the director forget everything he's heard in the temp, 我的工作是讓導演忘掉他聽到的暫時音軌 I won't listen to it but once, I'll never listened to it twice, 我只會想聽一次,絕對不會有下一次 and if they're addicted to it it's just going to make my job harder. 如果他們(導演)聽暫時音軌上癮了,我的工作會變得很艱難 Let's back up a second : temp music is when you're editing a film, 我們倒帶一下,暫時音軌是當你剪輯電影時 and you take music from another movie and use it temporarily in your cut like this : 用來暫時墊檔的其他電影配樂,如 Tenp music is always supposed to be replaced by composers' original score. 暫時音軌終將被作曲人的的新配樂取代 But sometimes directors or producers will tell their composer to imitate the temp. 但是有時候某些導演或製作人會要求作曲人模仿暫時音軌 To our knowledge, this is the only time a studio has publicly apologized 就我們所知,這是唯一一次有片商 for imitating temp music. 對於暫時音軌的模仿公開道歉 The far more pervasive effect is that now 配樂越是泛用性 most blockbusters are temped with each other's scores. 越多電影大片就會想要爭相使用 So they kind of sound like each other, but just within legal limits. 所以到頭來都在合法的範圍裡,聽起來都差不多 And as the Marvel franchise has become more popular, now other films sound like 隨著漫威系列越來越受歡應,其他的電影音樂如 they were tempt with Marvel music. 他們開始模仿漫威的音樂 We want to emphasize : we're not blaming the composers. 在此強調:我們沒有在怪罪作曲人 Things don't get this way unless its systemic. 如果不是系統醒的原因,事情是不會發展到如此的 Before temp music became popular, directors would often reference other music 如果暫時音軌變得受歡迎,導演們就會越常拿來做參考 as a way to talk to the composer. But what changed everything was 用來跟作曲人討論,但是改變這一切的是 modern nonlinear editing which allowed a director to put their favorite music 現代的非線性編輯方式,讓導演將他們喜愛的音樂 in the movie and have the editor cut to it. 放進電影中,讓剪輯師來剪接 Now, director points to the temp and says : "Make it like that". 現在,導演們會指著暫時音軌說:弄的跟它一樣 And it's not because the music is the right choice, 這不是因為這音樂是正確的選擇 but because they've listened to it. 只是因為他們剛好聽到它們(音樂)了 Again and again and again for hours and hours 一次又一次,一小時又一小時 making a DVD that match and they go back with another idea another version the 我們幫DVD上配樂 next day with the same music, and at some point of the music stick to the picture. 然後隔天他們又有新的想法和版本,但同時音樂已經跟電影黏在一起了 - They can spend a year before you arrive. 在你出現之前,他們已經為這些電影準備了約一年 By the way when you take that music out often the cut isn't right [附帶一提,如果你將不太對的音樂拿走 because they're cutting to something that... It's very frustrating. 只因為他們....這真的很讓人沮喪] Part of the frustration is that filmmakers just reuse things 部分沮喪的原因就是導演重複使用別的電影中有效的東西 that worked in every other movie, so you end up with the lowest common denominator. 所以最後的決定都只達到最低標準即可 Remember this ? 記得這一段嗎 Let's try something different. 我們來試試不同的東西 So earlier in the film, Thor convinced his friends to do 該片早期,索爾說服朋友們 something illegal and he was banished. 去做一些違法的事情,而他也因此被放逐了 Now they're doing something illegal to find him. 現在這些人為了找到他,也做了違法的事情 He's not asking for their help, they're giving it willingly. 他沒有求救,他們是出自願的 What if we heard this feeling in the music ? 如果我們可以從音樂中聽到這種情感呢? We're not saying this is the right choice here, but it's worth trying out. 我們不是說這是最正確的選擇,但是的確值得一試 Because it makes the scene emotionally richer. 因為這樣可以讓這一幕的情感更豐富 And all of the choices you see in Marvel films : 但是所有漫威電影的選擇: the background noise, hearing what you see, adding a narrator, temp music. 就是背景聲音,所聽即所見,旁白覆蓋、暫時音軌 All of these stem from the same desire : to keep things safe. 這麼做都只有一個原因:想打安全牌 This is not bad music, it's just bland and inoffensive. 這些不是差勁的音樂,只是很平淡、人畜無害而已 And because Marvel sacrifices emotional richness for these safe choices, 因為漫威為了安全犧牲了豐富情感 the end result is this : 結果就是 Oh... Marvel ? Na - oh... 喔...漫威? 想不到 So what is missing from Marvel music ? Risk. 所以漫威音樂少了些什麼? 冒險 The kind of risk that creates an emotional connection with the audience. 這些有機會利用音軌創造出情感連結的冒險 So that they carry the music with them. People do not remember safe choices. 所以才會印象深刻。人們是不會記得安全牌的 Only bold original music, and do this : 只有大膽的原創音樂,然後再 But that being said, we did find one Marvel theme that still got this reaction : 講了這麼多,我們還是找到一首有如此反應的漫威主題曲 Spiderman ! Spiderman ! Friendly neighborhood Spiderman ! 蜘蛛人,蜘蛛人,友善的好鄰居,蜘蛛人 Spins web any size, catch thieves, just like flies. Look out ! Here comes Spider-man! 噴出網子抓賊就像抓蒼蠅 注意! 蜘蛛人來啦! Is he strong? Listen bud, he's got radioactive blood. 他強壯嗎? 聽著,他有著核能感染的血液 Can he swing from a thread Take a look overhead. 怎麼可能這樣盪來盪去 仰頭望望就知道了 Hey there There goes the Spiderman. 看哪,蜘蛛人又盪過去了 In the chill of night At the scene of a crime 寒風颼颼的夜晚 犯罪的現場 Like a streak of light He arrives just in time. 就像一曙光 他剛好趕上 Spiderman, Spiderman, Friendly neighborhood Spiderman, Wealth and fame, He's ignored, Action is his reward. 蜘蛛人,蜘蛛人,友善的好鄰居蜘蛛人 不顧名利,做好事,就是他的獎勵 To him, life is a great big bang up. Wherever there's a hang up, You'll find the Spider man. 對他來說,人生本來就起起伏伏 只要你牽掛,蜘蛛人就在你身旁 -That was incredible ! Thank you so much ! 太強了! 真是太感謝了! (歡迎FB搜尋:zass17) Subtitles by the Amara.org community 字幕由 Amara.org 社群提供
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