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  • I'm speaking about a [possibly] partially non-psychedelic topic, but it originated

  • in the psychedelic field. It's also an interesting story about a discovery.

  • [You] will mainly hear here from me about bromo-LSD, which is a compound which [was]

  • originally synthesized by Hofmann in the mid-'50s, by Albert Hofmann,

  • the discoverer of LSD. So it seems that his LSD placebo will at last become a medication.

  • So that's quite interesting, but it's posthumous. He didn't know about that.

  • This is Albert Hofmann, as you may know. So...to give a short overview, I will tell you

  • very [briefly] about cluster headaches and what it means. I will also tell you

  • about the initial self-trials with LSD and psilocybin in cluster headaches.

  • Then I will talk some about bromo-LSD and the treatments [which] we have done

  • with bromo-LSD already and the future which may happen [with] bromo-LSD,

  • if everything works out well. What is [a] cluster headache?

  • One or 2 or 3 out of a thousand people have cluster headache[s], which [are] a very malign

  • form of migraine. There is a male-female...which is opposite to migraines, right?

  • It's called "suicide headache" because the people [who] have that disease are

  • so much [in] pain that they sometimes have these attacks a few times a day,

  • and...a lot of times in a row. Some people are even chronic that way. So they do [commit] suicide

  • to avoid the pain. It typically begins at the [age of] 20. There are episodic and chronic forms.

  • Some people have only these cycles, like having three months of cluster headaches,

  • then three months symptom-free, then another three months, or in a [slightly] different pattern,

  • they have these [attacks]. These are in fact very severe and repeated headaches,

  • which are occurring in cycles, so-called clusters. So it's a serious disease and we don't have

  • the real medication for it up to now. Here is a picture which may give you an idea

  • [of] how terrible that is, because you feel like a spear is in your head, going through it,

  • and you feel all that pain. It's really hard, and you also have lacrimation [crying]

  • and sometimes a [stuffy] nose and so on, but it's a really hard pain.

  • If you look up these videos [which] are on Youtube about this disease and how

  • the pain is going on, it's terrible. You wouldn't even believe it, if you can't see that.

  • So what are the conventional treatment[s]? We have treatments which are trying to

  • cope with acute headaches as well as giving prophylactic effects if taken on a daily basis.

  • That's the usual medications [which] we used up to now. But there may be

  • a new kind of treatment with bromo-LSD and maybe with LSD/psilocybin,

  • which may be called preventative, because you're doing the drug and then afterwards,

  • you have a kind of after-effect which is remission...so you don't have any cluster headaches,

  • even without taking the medication...additional times.

  • Breathing pure oxygen may help a lot of these people in acute attacks, around 70%.

  • But you always have to carry a tank with you. So it's hard to do sometimes.

  • [Triptans], which are used for treatment of migraines, are also effective in a lot of people,

  • but they have some side effects. Especially if you take them a few times a day,

  • you will get serious side effects which are really [dis]agreeable, and [there is]

  • also a cost factor. A lot of health insurance companies in the US don't pay

  • for that amount [which] you really need.

  • Verapamil is another medication, usually for cardiac purposes. It is used as

  • a prophylactic treatment, but that's off label, still. It also has a lot of side effects

  • which a lot of people can't tolerate. There's another medication, prednisone,

  • which is a cortisol preparation. That can have a lot of serious side effects,

  • immuno-modulatory effects, psychosis, osteoporosis, and so on. So you can't take that,

  • really, on a regular basis. Some new ideas are: because the illness is so severe in the pain

  • ...some people even searched...for neurostimulators, where you put some wires

  • in the brain and stimulate [it] so that you have less pain. But it was found out recently,

  • because it's a [rival] approach to BOL in a way, it was recently found out

  • that they have a lot of complications, infections and everything. So everybody had complications,

  • in fact, every patient. So they're staying away from it right now.

  • Also it is the case [that] if you have the headaches on one side, for example,

  • and you put a neurostimulator in there, it may change to the other side.

  • So you've got one surgery after another, and it really doesn't work out that well.

  • The history is interesting, because a Scottish person with severe episodic cluster headaches

  • was having [them] for 18 years and then he wondered why he didn't get the attacks

  • [during] one year at a certain point. He always got it [then], at that point [in the year],

  • [but then] he didn't, for months. So he was looking up his diary and his memory, and said,

  • "what did I do [differently] than usual?" He found out that he took LSD in 1993,

  • two times that year. So he didn't get the cluster headaches [the] next year.

  • So he made that kind of causal [connection] about it.

  • This is what I already said.

  • So he was, on his own, taking LSD [on] a regular [schedule], [at] a hallucinogenic dose, to treat it.

  • He really prevented all [the] headaches. So no cluster headache was showing up

  • [during] this time. Then he tried to stay away from LSD to test if [there was] really a connection,

  • and the cluster headache showed up again. So this guy was posting these

  • very personal findings on the internet, and so, some other people became aware of that.

  • Some of them are also psychedelic aficionados, I guess, so they don't mind

  • taking such a medication, so it was tried on a larger basis.

  • They found out [that] it was very effective. So we have right now evidence

  • that three substances can treat cluster headaches in [a] way I will tell you about.

  • One is psilocybin; it was tried out too, and it works as well. The other is LSD,

  • not allowed in these preparations, right now. The next thing is bromo-LSD,

  • which I will talk about. Here are some batches from the '60s for analytical purposes.

  • What they have done, then, is, my colleagues from Harvard...had the idea, initiated by Bob Volt,

  • head of the organization Cluster Busters, [which] was founded around these findings,

  • and he's also announcing that he is preparing material here where you can

  • look up our studies as well as some brochures related to that kind of research.

  • In the year 2004-2005, Bob Volt was asking the Harvard guys, John Halpern, in fact,

  • to do a kind of survey about these cases. So these people were contacted by the internet,

  • and some of them, 53, were interviewed and gave their okay for getting their medical records,

  • [to show that] they [were] really diagnosed that way, so that we [were] really sure

  • they [had] that disease. Nearly 60% hadn't used any psychedelics recreationally,

  • but they took it because of the cluster headache, and it worked for them.

  • These were the participants. There was a use of psilocybin; out of 19 cases,

  • 17 had success treating their cluster headaches with that. This study was done with

  • [R.] Andrew Sewell in cooperating with [John] Halpern and the [department] chief.

  • With the episodic cluster headaches, 29 of the 53 took the LSD for prophylactic purposes,

  • or the psilocybin. This is not a very good thing here.

  • In more than 50% it was effective... for breaking the cycle, but they didn't take it

  • on a daily basis. They only took it one time and then the cluster cycle was broken

  • in more [than] half of them. There is no medication out there which can do that.

  • I need to make that clear. [For] forty percent it was partially effective.

  • It diminished the pain, it diminished the frequency. So they may have at that point [in] time

  • not really figured out what the right treatment regime would be, and how often

  • you have to take it and at what doses and so on. This evaluation, this survey,

  • gave some ideas about that. The LSD users [also broke] the cycle and had some

  • preventative effect also. Twenty out of the psilocybin users [had] taken psilocybin

  • in between the cycles and had a preventative effect. It is still, by the way,

  • a miracle what the mechanism of that is. You may think about epigenetics or whatever,

  • but there is no idea about it as far as I know.

  • Here I will give you some numbers of the conventional things, like oxygen.

  • You see it's partially effective in the acute attacks, but it doesn't break the cycle.

  • Please understand that. So [with triptans], the same is going on. [They] can reduce

  • [the pain of an acute] attack, sometimes even eliminate it, but with all these side effects and stuff.

  • But psilocybin, with...not so much side effects, I would say, is giving

  • a much higher number, and it's only ineffective in a very few patients.

  • So now we're going to the prophylactic type of treatment, what they have tried

  • in these self-medication trials, if you [will]. Lithium is not very effective

  • in having these prophylactic effects. Verapamil is also not very effective,

  • but partially effective. Prednisone is much more effective, but it has these serious side effects,

  • so you can't take it on a longer basis; it's not allowed by the FDA.

  • Psilocybin is really effective in a way, [for] more than half of the patients, and with some...

  • it's partially effective, and you can see LSD is quite effective, maybe even more so

  • than psilocybin. We are not quite sure because there are no controlled trials out there

  • which compare these [two] medications. So how did we [come] up with that bromo-LSD idea?

  • At first, we were at McLean hospital, Harvard University, Harvard Medical School,

  • with Bob Volt who is here, and professor John Halpern from McLean hospital.

  • We were discussing LSD and how to do an LSD research project, how it may be

  • connected to serotonin and the activation of serotonin receptors. But the preventative

  • effect can't be explained that way, because the acute effects are over after a day,

  • so the material is out of the system. So we were talking about genes...We may apply

  • for a psilocybin study which was planned, and we were doing stuff on the research protocol

  • and so on. We were also thinking about LSD derivatives, and how did that come?

  • We [showed up] with Bob Volt as our sponsor from the Cluster Busters,

  • at the Harvard research administration, and we were sitting in a room with two fireplaces and

  • a big desk there, and these big chairs and stuff, and they were sitting in front of us.

  • We were talking with them, flexible at that moment, and then there was a pause

  • in the conversation, and the leading guy on the other side said, "You know what?"

  • "We had Leary here." So it seems like there's a wall you have to go over, and that

  • may [not be] easy. So what we did is we came up with the idea, "maybe we should"

  • "look...for the derivatives," but mainly for the purpose [of proving]

  • that the most appropriate thing you can figure out in respect to the derivatives,

  • the most appropriate derivative may not work. Because there was some evidence that

  • only a hallucinogenic effect will give you the full treatment effect. It seems it is [dependent],

  • maybe, on that. So we had the idea to prove that the other medication, the non-hallucinogenic one,

  • is not working. Therefore we could go on with the LSD study, right?

  • So we came up with that. We [had] already cooperated for some years.

  • The idea was, first, what I told you. The hindrance of psychedelic research at Harvard

  • may be a big deal. There may be some dependence on the hallucinogenic effect.

  • We have looked for more than 100 derivatives, so I have looked for that before, anyway,

  • for no reason. We figured out 3 derivatives which may be appropriate from these few data

  • which were generated during the '60s, and we came up with BOL-148, which is bromo-LSD.

  • Here you will be okay. So it is LSD, in fact, with one atom done in another fashion, so

  • it's a little difference. It was synthesized, I'm not quite sure if it was '55 or '57. I think it was '55.

  • They synthesized that as a kind of placebo to compare that with LSD's effect.

  • They [did] a lot of trials in animals and human[s] [during] that time. During the '60s, there [was] a lot

  • of stuff going on because they [wanted] to know...At that point [in] time they were

  • of the opinion that the anti-serotonergic activity, which they [had] measured in a very crude

  • [manner] with some tissues...was giving LSD its effects. But they figured out

  • that bromo-LSD was doing the same in respect to this crude anti-serotonergic testing,

  • but it is not giving you any hallucinogenic effects. So that thing was excluded in a way

  • by bromo-LSD in these trials. So what they also found was that there was virtually no

  • physiological activity, even in the higher dose range, like 10-20 mg intravenous,

  • which they [had] also tried. There was also no hallucinogenic activity, but some kind of

  • curious side effects which we will come [to] later in this talk.

  • So here we see these [two] molecules, and you can see on the right side, I marked that

  • with this orange thing, so you can see [that] there's only one hydrogen changed

  • into a bromo. But what is not shown here, as far as I know, [is that] the bromo is much bigger.

  • That means it doesn't fit into the receptor anymore that much. There are some receptor

  • interactions, but very slightly. They have compared LSD and BOL in humans (you may know that)

  • up to really big doses. They also looked...for, partially for military purposes, I guess,

  • how they can pre-treat soldiers with BOL, making them resistant to LSD.

  • But what they found is [that] the psychic effects were not blocked, but some of the physiological

  • effects were blocked. So it may be that it hooked up to the receptor but it [was] not

  • pushing the button. I will not go into that because of time reasons.

  • But...you can see some differences, mainly in the cerebrum serotonin, BOL is bringing it down,

  • LSD is neutral in that respect, and the CNS arousal is even going down with BOL,

  • also in animals. You don't have any hallucinations with BOL.

  • What we found is it has a much shorter time of action, and it seems that from some evidence...

  • it's easily crossing the blood-brain barrier, as LSD does too, as far as I know.

  • It has no effect on blood pressure, pulse, ECG, EEG, [or] blood sugar, [or] metabolic rate,

  • and so on, and also not on sleep. So it's a kind of side-effect-free material, in a way.

  • There were some side effects found, but not in the dose range up to 550 micrograms per kilogram.

  • There were virtually no side effects. Some of our patients [who] have gotten

  • 30 micrograms per kilogram, they told us something. It's like a half-glass of wine;

  • you feel tipsy, whatever that means. But in the higher dose range you get this kind of tiredness,

  • because you get low arousal, and restlessness, and sometimes, in some patients,

  • difficulty [in concentrating]. I myself have [taken] 5 mg, which is a double dose

  • [compared with] what we gave to the patients, and one marked effect was a kind of

  • dysphoria. It's not euphoria, like most people [get] from LSD; it's dysphoria.

  • [It] may be an inverse agonist; I don't know. But that was a marked effect and it's also

  • sometimes described, but it wasn't that [bad]. Okay, I hope I can go through these slides.

  • We had some people synthesizing BOL. That was quite a big deal, because it's not easy

  • to synthesize that much. We also got an analytical certificate for that stuff.

  • We used that in a few patients together with my friend and colleague, Professor Karst,

  • who is a pain professor [at] Hanover Medical School. We have a specific law

  • in Germany, that in treatment-resistant patients, if you take complete responsibility

  • and you're not relying on your insurance, you can give every medication. But [that is] only in these

  • desperate cases, treatment-resistant cases. So we have done a thorough examination of them.

  • We have done a treatment protocol. We were going through the IRB [Institutional Review Board]

  • asking for that, if that is allowed and stuff, and we made these examinations

  • and assessments afterwards. Okay, we were giving the hydrochloride salt...

  • [The] important [thing] is, we had three administrations 5 days apart,

  • which was found out by that initial survey study, that it may work on the preventative

  • effect more than other modes of applications. We were looking for the pain diary, obviously,

  • and the clinical global impression, and had some personal visits with the patients afterwards.

  • Here you can see the treatment effects. Below is these little arrows, in the beginning,

  • at the number 3 there. They show when we have given the Bromo-LSD three times,

  • so people were under clinical supervision at that point [in] time. Then you can see how it goes down,

  • and here you can see the weeks. It goes 16 weeks and nothing happen[ed] anymore.

  • So there is a solid preventative effect, and we even had some of the patients,

  • [who] were severely ill patients, [who] didn't have an attack for years.

  • Funny how that happened. We also had one patient who had an attack when we applied the substance.

  • There was a diminuition of that pain, during the attack in that patient, and there was

  • obviously a decrease in frequency, and [improvement] even in the first time when they

  • [still had] attacks after the first application. Then their symptoms [got] better [from] the medication,

  • and we had this remission extension, [as] it was called. We now speak about

  • preventative effects. There were no serious side effects seen...virtually nothing.

  • What will be the next step? ...You have to go into all these investors' meetings,

  • and with these financial guys, [who have] paranoia that something may not be right

  • with that project and all that. You have to find somebody who is willing to invest

  • a lot of money, because the pharmaceutical industry typically is not developing drugs.

  • They [are] waiting for stuff and buy[ing] it for a high price. But then they can be sure

  • it's already through Phase I and Phase II trials, so it's working, and it's safe.

  • So you have to find the investors yourself for the first 2 phases, and that's quite a big deal.

  • I was involved with that. I'm a scholar, so I'm not really accustomed to these kind of things.

  • We realized a patent together with Harvard Medical School and Hanover Medical School.

  • We reached some investors but we also had some interferences about the patent,

  • which I don't want to go into. What we intend to do is, we want to proceed with

  • Phase I and Phase II trials with these investors on board. It seems that that may work out

  • immediately in the next few days. Then it will be [sold] to a pharmaceutical company,

  • who will do the Phase III, [which] you also have to invest more than 20 million dollars for.

  • Then, we hope that it will be established as medication for cluster headaches.

  • There is some good [prospects] about that, maybe. What are the advantages of psychedelics

  • for cluster headaches? It seems that [they] have less side effects, but there's

  • a funny thing. If you think about it, you may think, "Oh, I took LSD and I got a side effect"

  • "that I didn't get clusters anymore." You can also [take] the opposite [view], like,

  • "I take medication for cluster headaches, but I have side effects, like hallucinations"

  • "and good mood" and whatever. But in general, it has much less side effect[s] than the other ones,

  • and [they are] much less serious because LSD, I can seriously say that,

  • it's quite...physiologically tolerable. So there are no serious side effects, even from

  • huge overdoses. Nothing reported like that on the physiological level.

  • They have to be taken only a few times. That can be a disadvantage [for] the pharmaceutical

  • industry, right? They want a medication you take 5 times a day, every day, for years, right?

  • If you find a preventative wonder drug, you're maybe not loved by them,

  • because they don't sell [triptans]. The universities [put] a lot of obstacles in the contract,

  • so that they can't buy it for the drawer. [?] That could happen too.

  • If you want to sell [triptans], but [don't] care about the side effects,

  • we got the side effect out of it: money. You can have these

  • long-term preventative effects. There may be even a possibility that we came across,

  • by chance, a new design of a medication which gives such a huge preventative effect

  • for such a huge period. That may be a new mechanism which has to be explored.

  • We also have shown that BOL, a non-hallucinogenic drug, is effective in cluster headache[s],

  • and it also minimizes side effects, so thanks for your attention. [applause]

I'm speaking about a [possibly] partially non-psychedelic topic, but it originated

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使用LSD、Psilocybin和Bromo-LSD治療叢集性頭痛--Torsten Passie。 (The Use of LSD, Psilocybin, and Bromo-LSD for the Treatment of Cluster Headaches - Torsten Passie)

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