[CHEERING]

SUGE D: It stresses me out because it's almost

like when you're living your day-to-day,

you're more of a character in your normal day-to-day

than I feel like I would be in that ring.

You can't be who you want to be at work when

you clock in sometimes.

You know this.

Like if your boss is getting on you about something

or he's saying this--

You can't body slam him.

Why do you do this?

I want it.

It's that simple.

People talk all the time about stuff that they want.

I want this.

I want that.

Why can't I have this?

Why can't I have that?

If you want it, you go get it.

[CHEERING]

CRAIG: So what do I call you?

Suge?

Carl?

I have many identities.

For the ladies, I want them to call me Daddy.

But for the sake of this interview, let's go with Suge.

Let's just go with that.

CRAIG (VOICEOVER): This is Carl Wilson,

but he prefers to be called Suge D. By day, he's

an assistant manager of a cellphone store,

but by night, he's a freelance professional wrestler.

When you think about professional wrestling,

you probably think of this-- mega superstars battling it out

in gigantic arenas for thousands of people on TV and paperview.

But there's another level of professional wrestling

that doesn't happen on TV.

It happens in small clubs and mid-size venues,

and the wrestlers don't necessarily

go on to star in Hollywood movies or sell beef sticks.

Snap into a Slim Jim!

I'm called a professional wrestler.

I would more so say I'm a professional driver because I

get the point A to point B in the fastest amount of time,

do want business, entertain, and I get back as fast

as humanly possible.

How far did you drive today?

Where are we?

We're in Chicago.

So where'd you come from?

I'm based out of Augusta, Georgia.

So that's a 12 hour drive.

So how long have you been doing this?

I was 17, and on February 21, I will be 31.

14 years, yeah?

OK, so it will be 14 on February 21,

so I started very, very young.

Fact of the matter is I've always

been a huge fan of professional wrestling

since I was a little child.

It's one of my earliest, earliest, earliest memories.

There were VHS tapes at the house, Hulk Hogan and Ultimate

Warrior.

And I used to sit down to watch all the Hogan celebrations

and the posing, man.

Ripping the shirt off?

Yes, yes.

A lot of white tees that my mom got very upset about me ripping

because they wasn't exactly like a commodity around the house we

could just rip apart.

But the big thing at the end of the day

was I knew in some way, shape, or form

I was going to be in the business

no matter how it turned out.

So I applied my time.

Eventually I found a way to break into it.

Let me ask you a question-- I don't

mean to flip the tables on you real quick.

With professional wrestling, I mean, let's just be honest.

The curtain's been pulled back.

You know it's predetermined.

What?

It's not real?

I ruined it for everybody.

God.

But here's my thing-- OK, you already

know it's predetermined.

I hate using the word fake because the stuff I go through

in there-- we were talking about the whole close-up

thing earlier.

That's my broken arm from about three years ago.

They actually have a steel plate and seven screws in there.

So it's definitely not fake.

There's some real stuff ends up going on.

OK, so the outcome is predetermined, right?

But at the same time, the outcome

is predetermined on "Game of Thrones."

It's predetermined on "The Avengers,"

comic books you read, all that good stuff like that.

What I like about this are the moments where--

since the curtain has already been pulled back,

and we tried so long to get people to believe what we were

doing is absolutely, positively, 100% real-- the beauty of it

now is getting you to forget that, for that moment,

it's predetermined.

It's to throw you in.

We're like the most base form of theater,

and we're right in your face, and I love it.

ANNOUNCER 1: I don't know what's happening there.

ANNOUNCER 2: Is this "Space Jam"?

Here comes Sugar D slow motion.

SUGE D: So when I first started, I

would get on with an indie company,

and I made more so myself a name as more of a comedic character.

And this is where my rise started to come up.

So that's like having a hot single.

[MUSIC PLAYING]

The big thing is just like I had one of those moments.

And then when everything kind of fizzled out with that company,

I was back at bottom.

It's like you had the single, they didn't really

trust in you putting anything else out,

so they dropped you, and your back on the road again.

You're at square one.

So now you're back at this moment

where you're trying to reinvent and trying

to show these people what your worth, what you really have.

And what was frustrating about that time was-- I'll

admit-- I had a passion for it.

I feel like I didn't take my fitness all the way seriously.

It's like I got a lot too soon, and now I'm

trying to claw my way backup to be able to get back

to a lot of those heights.

I'd say I've gotten back to some of that

just in a different way.

I would like to be able to get to a super high level,

like contract on TV every week, everything to that affect.

But at the same time, I feel like if you

harp on that kind of thing, it puts so much pressure on it,

it doesn't even happen.

I just want to enjoy it for every step I get.

For every show, I'm just enjoying it

that one step at a time, and then

whatever my destiny is, it's going to be.

But no matter what, I'm succeeding.

I'm winning no matter what's going on right now.

And I'm happy for that, and I'm happy I'm healthy.

I'm loving life.

I'm loving the people.

I've never taken a drug in my life,

but I have to believe that's what it feels like.

I have to believe that's what it feels like because I keep

coming back for this, and that's just the business as a whole.

That's why you'll see so many people-- death-defying stunts,

they'll do some crazy stuff, still

have to go to work the next day, not even making good money.

Because at the root of it, you just

want that moment, that 10 seconds, 30 seconds,

or whatever expanse of time that you get,

you're a god to these people.

And that's not even trying to be arrogant or anything like that.

It's like these people are looking to you,

and they're giving you their energy for second willingly.

That's crazy, man.

Now I want to see you do some wrestling.

Are you gonna win?

I can't quite tell you that.

[CHEERING]

[MUSIC PLAYING]

ANNOUNCER: Introducing first, by way of Chocolate City, this

is "Uptown Funk."

He is the Pelvic Sorcerer.

This is Special Dark Suge D!

From San Diego, California, mucho underground superstar,

the New Age Puncher, B-Boy!

[CHANTING]

[MUSIC PLAYING]

[CHANTING]

[APPLAUSE]

Suge D!

SUGE D: I'm further than I ever, ever, ever expected to be.

There were people that thought I would never leave the stage,

and every day, I'm proving them wrong.

The biggest thing that kills me about this

is-- and I think that anybody in this business can relate,

if you got a dream, anybody can relate-- how many times

have you chased something, and you've thought about it,

and you've had second, third, 15 thoughts about just stopping

because it's just not going to happen.

Sometimes you're telling yourself

that it's not going to happen.

But the thing is I live in fear of the fact

that if I don't keep going, I could have been right there,

and I didn't even know it, and that's

gonna eat me alive inside.

So it's one of those situations where

you have to make the choice between you can keep going,

and I guess by other people's determination,

fail, but at least you knew what the outcome was.

Or you cut your losses, you could buckle down,

you could find a different dream, find something else,

but at the same time, you're always

going to get eaten up by what could have been,

and I don't like what could've been.

I can't deal with that.

Don't ask for permission to be great.

Just be.

CROWD: Suge D!

So what do you guys think?

Do you want to be a professional wrestler like Suge D?

Or do you have your own dream that you're chasing?

And does it matter to you that wrestling is predetermined?

Does it ruin it for you?

Or can you enjoy it for what it is?

And should I give Matt a pile driver?

Let us know in the comments.

Also, what is a pile driver?

Also, should I tear my shirt off and go like this?

Brother.

Big thanks to Suge D for sitting down and talking with us.

There's a link to his Twitter and Facebook down below.

Also, thanks to Freelance Wrestling for letting us

come to that show.

It was awesome.

You should check them out. they've

got shows going on all the time.

It was a really good time.

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