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  • Imagine you are a part of a crew of astronauts

    想像你是太空人團隊的一員,

  • traveling to Mars or some distant planet.

    正前往火星或某個遙遠的星球。

  • The travel time could take a year

    旅行時間可能需要一年

  • or even longer.

    或甚至更長。

  • The space on board and the resources

    太空艙的空間和資源有限。

  • would be limited.

    所以,你和組員必須有 以最小的投入來生產食物的方法。

  • So you and the crew would have to figure out how to produce food

    如果你只能帶幾包種子,

  • with minimal inputs.

    並且在幾個小時內種出農作物來?

  • What if you could bring with you just a few packets of seeds,

    如果這些作物生出更多的種子,

  • and grow crops in a matter of hours?

    使你可以僅用最初的那幾包種子, 在旅程上充分供食給全體組員?

  • And what if those crops would then make more seeds,

    美國太空總署的科學家已想出辦法。

  • enabling you to feed the entire crew

    他們想出了挺有意思的辦法,

  • with just those few packets of seeds for the duration of the trip?

    牽涉到微生物,

  • Well, the scientists at NASA actually figured out a way to do this.

    是單細胞有機體,

  • What they came up with was actually quite interesting.

    而且用到水中的氫。

  • It involved microorganisms,

    他們用的微生物 被稱為「嗜氫菌」,

  • which are single-celled organisms.

    用這些嗜氫菌就可以 創建一個良性的「碳循環」,

  • And they also used hydrogen from water.

    足以維持太空船上的生命。

  • The types of microbes that they used were called hydrogenotrophs,

    太空人呼出二氧化碳,

  • and with these hydrogenotrophs, you can create a virtuous carbon cycle

    然後微生物捕獲二氧化碳,

  • that would sustain life onboard a spacecraft.

    並轉換成富含營養與碳的作物。

  • Astronauts would breathe out carbon dioxide,

    太空人吃下這些富含碳的作物,

  • that carbon dioxide would then be captured by the microbes

    以二氧化碳的形式呼出碳來,

  • and converted into a nutritious, carbon-rich crop.

    微生物再度捕獲這些二氧化碳,

  • The astronauts would then eat that carbon-rich crop

    製造出營養作物,

  • and exhale the carbon out in the form of carbon dioxide,

    再經由太空人 以二氧化碳的形式呼出來。

  • which would then be captured by the microbes,

    如此,形成了封閉的碳循環。

  • to create a nutritious crop,

    為什麼這很重要?

  • which then would be exhaled in the form of carbon dioxide

    人類需要碳來維生,

  • by the astronauts.

    並從食物中獲取碳。

  • So in this way, a closed-loop carbon cycle is created.

    在漫長的太空旅程中,

  • So why is this important?

    根本無法沿途取得任何碳,

  • We need carbon to survive as humans,

    所以必須想辦法在艙裡, 將碳回收再利用。

  • and we get our carbon from food.

    這是個聰明的解法,對吧?

  • On a long space journey,

    但事實上, 這些研究並未獲得實證。

  • you simply wouldn't be able to pick up any carbon along the way,

    我們還沒去過火星, 還沒去過其他的星球。

  • so you'd have to figure out how to recycle it on board.

    這項研究實際上是在 60和70年代完成的。

  • This is a clever solution, right?

    我的同事約翰 • 里德博士和我,

  • But the thing is, that research didn't really go anywhere.

    對於地球的碳循環很有興趣。

  • We haven't yet gone to Mars. We haven't yet gone to another planet.

    我們希望對於氣候變遷 提供技術解決方案。

  • And this was actually done in the '60s and '70s.

    透過閱讀60年代已發表的論文 -自1967年以後的論文-

  • So a colleague of mine, Dr. John Reed, and I,

    我們發現了這項研究。

  • were interested, actually, in carbon recycling here on Earth.

    我們認為這是很棒的主意。

  • We wanted to come up with technical solutions

    地球其實像艘太空船。

  • to address climate change.

    我們的空間和資源有限,

  • And we discovered this research

    我們確實需要在地球上找出 更有效的碳回收再利用法。

  • by reading some papers published in the '60s -- 1967 and later --

    因此,我們有個想法:

  • articles about this work.

    是不是能採用某些太空總署的方法,

  • And we thought it was a really good idea.

    來解決地球的碳問題呢?

  • So we said, well, Earth is actually like a spaceship.

    能不能培養太空總署類的微生物

  • We have limited space and limited resources,

    做成對地球有價值的產品呢?

  • and on Earth, we really do need to figure out

    我們成立了公司,來實踐這個想法。

  • how to recycle our carbon better.

    我們公司發現這些嗜氫菌

  • So we had the idea,

    -我稱它們為大自然的 「超級碳回收員」-

  • can we take some of these NASA-type ideas and apply them

    我們發現這些在過去

  • to our carbon problem here on Earth?

    多半被忽略、缺少研究的 強大微生物,

  • Could we cultivate these NASA-type microbes

    可以被做成極有價值的產品。

  • in order to make valuable products here on Earth?

    於是我們開始在實驗室裡 培養這些微生物。

  • We started a company to do it.

    我們發現能用這些微生物 把二氧化碳製成必需氨基酸。

  • And in that company, we discovered that these hydrogenotrophs --

    我們甚至做出了富含蛋白質的餐點,

  • which I'll actually call nature's supercharged carbon recyclers --

    其中含有類似動物蛋白的氨基酸。

  • we found that they are a powerful class of microbes

    我們進一步培養它們,

  • that had been largely overlooked and understudied,

    發現能製出油來。

  • and that they could make some really valuable products.

    油可用於製造許多產品。

  • So we began cultivating these products, these microbes, in our lab.

    我們做出類似柑橘油的油品,

  • We found that we can make essential amino acids from carbon dioxide

    可用於調味和當作香料,

  • using these microbes.

    也可當作可生物分解的清潔劑,

  • And we even made a protein-rich meal

    甚至做為噴射機的燃料。

  • that has an amino acid profile similar to what you might find

    我們做出了類似棕櫚油的油品。

  • in some animal proteins.

    棕櫚油被用來製成 各式各樣的消費品和工業產品。

  • We began cultivating them even further,

    我們開始與廠商合作,拓展技術,

  • and we found that we can make oil.

    目前我們正合作

  • Oils are used to manufacture many products.

    要將一些產品上市。

  • We made an oil that was similar to a citrus oil,

    我們相信這一類技術確能幫助我們

  • which can be used for flavoring and for fragrances,

    回收二氧化碳 做成有價值且能獲利的產品,

  • but it also can be used as a biodegradable cleaner

    對地球和企業都有益的產品。

  • or even as a jet fuel.

    這就是我們現今正在做的事情。

  • And we made an oil that's similar to palm oil.

    但未來,這類型的技術 和微生物的應用,

  • Palm oil is used to manufacture

    可幫助我們成就更大的事業,

  • a wide range of consumer and industrial goods.

    如果我們將它提昇到另一層次。

  • We began working with manufacturers to scale up this technology,

    我們認為這類型的技術,

  • and we're currently working with them

    將能幫助我們解決農業問題,

  • to bring some of these products to market.

    建立可永續經營的農業形態,

  • We believe this type of technology can indeed help us

    擴展產能以滿足未來的需求。

  • profitably recycle carbon dioxide into valuable products --

    為何我們需要可永續經營的農業呢?

  • something that's beneficial for the planet

    事實上,預測顯示:

  • but also beneficial for business.

    到2050年, 世界將達到百億人口,

  • That's what we're doing today.

    預期我們需增加 70%的糧食產能。

  • But tomorrow, this type of technology and using these types of microbes

    此外,我們還需要更多的 資源和原物料,

  • actually could help us do something even greater

    來製造消費品和工業產品。

  • if we take it to the next level.

    因此,我們要如何擴展產能 以滿足需求呢?

  • We believe that this type of technology

    現代農業根本無法持續擴展, 以滿足此一需求。

  • can actually help us address an issue with agriculture

    有許多的原因 :

  • and allow us to create a type of agriculture that's sustainable,

    其中一個原因是,現代農業 是最大的溫室氣體排放源之一。

  • that will allow us to scale to meet the demands of tomorrow.

    事實上,農業排放的溫室氣體,

  • And why might we need a sustainable agriculture?

    比我們汽車、卡車、飛機與火車 加總的排放量還要多。

  • Well, actually, it is estimated

    另一原因是,現代農業 使用大量的土地。

  • that the population will reach about 10 billion by 2050,

    我們已用了1,940萬平方英里 的土地來種作物和養牲畜。

  • and we're projecting that we will need to increase food production

    那有多大呢?

  • by 70 percent.

    面積約為南美洲和非洲的總和。

  • In addition, we will need many more resources and raw materials

    讓我給你一個具體的例子。

  • to make consumer goods and industrial goods.

    在印尼,約當愛爾蘭 面積大小的原始熱帶雨林

  • So how will we scale to meet that demand?

    在2000至2012年間被剷除。

  • Well, modern agriculture simply cannot sustainably scale to meet that demand.

    試想,在這過程中 所傷害的各式物種與其多樣性,

  • There are a number of reasons why.

    無論是植物,昆蟲,或動物。

  • One of them is that modern agriculture is one of the largest emitters

    而且,天然的碳匯也被破壞了。

  • of greenhouse gases.

    讓我為你呈現真實的樣貌。

  • In fact, it emits more greenhouse gases

    剷除這些雨林地,主要是為了 騰出空間來種植棕櫚樹。

  • than our cars, our trucks, our planes

    正如我前面所提到的,

  • and our trains combined.

    棕櫚油用來製造許多產品。

  • Another reason is that modern ag simply takes up a whole lot of land.

    事實上,估計顯示 超過50%的消費產品

  • We have cleared 19.4 million square miles for crops and livestock.

    是以棕櫚油為生產原料。

  • What does that look like?

    包括:冰淇淋、餅乾、

  • Well, that's roughly the size of South America and Africa combined.

    食用油、

  • Let me give you a specific example.

    清潔劑、乳液、肥皂。

  • In Indonesia, an amount of virgin rainforest was cleared

    在你我的廚房和浴室中,

  • totaling the size of approximately Ireland,

    可能都有許多棕櫚油的製成品。

  • between 2000 and 2012.

    所以,你和我皆是 消失雨林的直接受益者。

  • Just think of all of the species, the diversity,

    現代農業存在一些問題,

  • that was removed in the process,

    必須有解決方案才能 擴大和永續經營。

  • whether plant life, insects or animal life.

    我相信微生物是答案的一部分;

  • And a natural carbon sink was also removed.

    尤其是這些超級碳回收員,

  • So let me make this real for you.

    這些超級碳回收員,

  • This clearing happened primarily to make room for palm plantations.

    像植物一樣,

  • And as I mentioned before,

    在它們活躍的生態系統中, 扮演著自然資源回收者的角色。

  • palm oil is used to manufacture many products.

    它們活躍在地球上特異的地方,

  • In fact, it is estimated that over 50 percent of consumer products

    像是深海溫泉區和溫泉中。

  • are manufactured using palm oil.

    在這些生態系統中, 它們將碳回收再利用,

  • And that includes things like ice cream, cookies ...

    轉換成這些生態系統 所需的養分。

  • It includes cooking oils.

    而它們含豐富的營養成分,

  • It also includes detergents, lotions, soaps.

    例如:油、蛋白質、 礦物質,和碳水化合物。

  • You and I both probably have numerous items

    事實上,微生物已是我們 日常生活中不可或缺的一部分。

  • in our kitchens and our bathrooms

    如果你喜歡在星期五晚上 喝杯黑皮諾紅酒,

  • that were manufactured using palm oil.

    以犒賞一週工作的辛苦,

  • So you and I are direct beneficiaries of removed rainforests.

    那你即是在享受微生物的作品。

  • Modern ag has some problems,

    若你喜飲本地小酒廠釀製的啤酒,

  • and we need solutions if we want to scale sustainably.

    那也是微生物的產物。

  • I believe that microbes can be a part of the answer --

    其他像是麵包、乳酪、優酪乳,

  • specifically, these supercharged carbon recyclers.

    也都是微生物的產品。

  • These supercharged carbon recyclers,

    但是,這些超級碳回收員的力與美,

  • like plants, serve as the natural recyclers

    在於它們能夠在 短短的數小時內產出產品,

  • in their ecosystems where they thrive.

    而不是耗費幾個月。

  • And they thrive in exotic places on Earth,

    這意味著我們可以遠比今日

  • like hydrothermal vents and hot springs.

    更快的速度來生產作物。

  • In those ecosystems, they take carbon and recycle it

    它們毋需陽光生長,

  • into the nutrients needed for those ecosystems.

    所以它們可以在任何季節、

  • And they're rich in nutrients,

    任何區域或地點生長。

  • such as oils and proteins, minerals and carbohydrates.

    它們可以在極小的容器中生長。

  • And actually, microbes are already an integral part of our everyday lives.

    我們可以進行垂直型農業。

  • If you enjoy a glass of pinot noir on a Friday night,

    不同於我們傳統的水平型農業,

  • after a long, hard work week,

    垂直型所需的土地不多,

  • then you are enjoying a product of microbes.

    可垂直擴展,

  • If you enjoy a beer from your local microbrewery --

    結果是每單位面積 能生產更多的產品。

  • a product of microbes.

    如果施行這類型的農法, 並且使用這些碳回收員,

  • Or bread, or cheese, or yogurt.

    就毋需砍伐更多的熱帶雨林,

  • These are all products of microbes.

    來供給我們的食品與貨物的消耗。

  • But the beauty and power associated with these supercharged carbon recyclers

    因為,若大規模生產,

  • lies in the fact that they can actually produce in a matter of hours

    每單位土地面積將有萬倍的產出;

  • versus months.

    例如,如果種植大豆,

  • That means we can make crops

    在同一塊土地上種植一年後,

  • much faster than we're making them today.

    一年會有一萬倍的產出。

  • They grow in the dark,

    這是我要傳達的新型農業,

  • so they can grow in any season

    是個能夠永續經營,

  • and in any geography and any location.

    滿足百億人口需求的農業。

  • They can grow in containers that require minimal space.

    這種新型農業 生產什麼樣的產品呢?

  • And we can get to a type of vertical agriculture.

    我們已經做出了蛋白粉,

  • Instead of our traditional horizontal agriculture

    所以不難想像 我們可做出類似大豆粉、

  • that requires so much land,

    玉米粉或甚至麵粉。

  • we can scale vertically,

    我們已做出油,

  • and as a result produce much more product per area.

    所以不難想像 亦可做出類似於椰子油、

  • If we implement this type of approach and use these carbon recyclers,

    橄欖油,或大豆油的東西。

  • then we wouldn't have to remove any more rainforests

    這類型的作物真能產生營養成分,

  • to make the food and the goods that we consume.

    供應我們麵條、麵包、

  • Because, at a large scale,

    蛋糕,和許多種類的營養品。

  • you can actually make 10,000 times more output per land area

    此外,因為油被廣泛用來 製造許多其他商品、

  • than you could -- for instance, if you used soybeans --

    工業產品和消費類產品,

  • if you planted soybeans on that same area of land

    可想像用這類作物來製造 清潔劑、肥皂、乳液等。

  • over a period of a year.

    總而言之,不僅地球 所剩的空間有限,

  • Ten thousand times over a period of a year.

    若我們繼續以現狀施行農法,

  • So this is what I mean by a new type of agriculture.

    我們將面臨剝奪後代 擁有美麗地球的風險。

  • And this is what I mean by developing a system

    但是毋需這樣,

  • that allows us to sustainably scale to meet the demands of 10 billion.

    我們可以想像豐饒的未來。

  • And what would be the products of this new type of agriculture?

    讓我們創造一個不僅讓地球 -我們的太空船-

  • Well, we've already made a protein meal,

    免於崩潰的系統,

  • so you can imagine something similar to a soybean meal,

    也發展益於我們自己、

  • or even cornmeal, or wheat flour.

    益於2050年後的百億地球人

  • We've already made oils,

    所生存的生活方式與系統。

  • so you can imagine something similar to coconut oil

    非常感謝你。

  • or olive oil or soybean oil.

    (掌聲)

  • So this type of crop can actually produce the nutrients

  • that would give us pasta and bread,

  • cakes, nutritional items of many sorts.

  • Furthermore, since oil is used to manufacture multiple other goods,

  • industrial products and consumer products,

  • you can imagine being able to make detergents, soaps, lotions, etc.,

  • using these types of crops.

  • Not only are we running out of space,

  • but if we continue to operate under the status quo

  • with modern agriculture,

  • we run the risk of robbing our progeny of a beautiful planet.

  • But it doesn't have to be this way.

  • We can imagine a future of abundance.

  • Let us create systems that keep planet Earth, our spaceship,

  • not only from not crashing,

  • but let us also develop systems and ways of living

  • that will be beneficial to the lives of ourselves

  • and the 10 billion that will be on this planet by 2050.

  • Thank you very much.

  • (Applause)

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想像你是太空人團隊的一員,

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