Very creative, very entertaining.

[Maisie Bourke]: Can we make it more like a mountain?

[Sally Bourke]: But, she's always been challenging.

She's always just pushed the limits and boundaries.

But she's so loving and she's got a lovely character.

That I never thought there was some label that

needed to be attached to her for me to understand my child.

I feel like her childhood has been snatched away from me.

[MAISIE]

[Sally Bourke]: I'm Sally Bourke. I live in Hull in East Yorkshire.

I'm Maisie's mum, Maisie's thirteen

and currently she's in a hospital for children with mental health issues

in Sheffield.

Going to see Maisie every time it's not just popping into the car and

nipping to the local hospital when your child is poorly

and you're on visiting times;

It's planning a journey: so, making sure that

I've got enough fuel in my tank,

making sure that I've got my water topped up.

A bag of washing.

I have to do laundry every week.

[Paper bag rustles as she puts it down]

[Sally Bourke]: So, we've got to hit the road because

it takes an hour.

I try to put fifty minutes extra in case there's any

hold-ups.

Erm..

and, sometimes it's difficult to get packed.

So,

I've got to

get on the road and hope that

the traffic''s kind.

[Bag rustles]

[Door opens]

[Bag rustles]

[Trunk/Boot opens]

[Bag rustles]

[Bag rustles]

[Bag rustles]

[Bag rustles]

[Trunk/Boot closes]

[Keys jingle]

[Key turns in lock]

[Car door opens]

[Ignition revs up]

[Car door closes]

[Engine runs as car backs up]

[Sound of car driving]

[Sally Bourke]: This is West End;

what used to be our unit in Hole for children that are sufferiing with mental health issues.

Because it's

shut,

erm..

Maisie's now in Sheffield;

but, if that was open, Maisie could just be there

which is about a mile away from home.

When I had my baby, I was-

I was only young myself and..

I was overwhelmed by

the responsibility and

having to put somebody else before me.

Erm..

And, it was

quite a shock to the system.

But I knew, even at that young age,

that that baby was my world.

And even though

lots of people thought that I was an idiot for having a child so young;

I wanted to prove that, even though I was young,

that..

my child was going to turn out

awesome.

And, she has!

[Sound of car driving]

[Sound of traffic]

[Sally Bourke]: Seeing Maisie hit milestones

and being

motivated;

it's worth all the hard work

and all the nights of

crying babies and changing nappies and..

all those days where

you wish you could pull your hair out.

And, I swear,

you're not allowed to-

you can't go out partying

because you haven't got a babysitter,

or you can't afford it,

'cause the kids have needed shoes.

[Sound of traffic]

[Ominous music]

[Sally Bourke]: That I'm aware of,

Maisie started self-harming

in December of 2013.

[Ominous music]

[Sally Bourke]: I came home from work,

and found her trying to stab herself with a pair of scissors.

[Ominous music]

[Sally Bourke]: Some days,

it haunts me more than other days.

There was..

a few months(?)..

where I would replay her life.

Replay

events

where (I thought)

"How could I have missed it?"

I felt that..

I let her down.

[Sound of car driving]

[Ominous music]

[Sound of traffic]

[Ominous music]

[Sally Bourke]: At the moment,

I've got

butterflies going in my stomach.

I'm always apprehensive before I go

on any visit to see Maisie,

wondering what

I'm going to hear;

if she's

had any incidents,

or

what kind of mood she's going to be in.

If I'm going to get any

reports that

sometimes are quite hard to hear.

[Ominous music]

[Sally Bourke]: I officially stopped work last March;

but, actually, when Maisie went

away in December,

I didn't-

didn't go back to work,

from the December (on).

Teaching is,

erm..

you know, you can't just get away with-

like, (if) you're having a bad day,

when you're in charge of thirty children in a class.

Because, erm, you can't wing it;

you've got to know your stuff.

So, Maisie had to come first;

I had to make a choice.

And, of course,

my kids come first; they always have.

[Sound of gas tank and gas meter]

[Click]

[Closing fuel cap]

[Sound of car driving]

[Sound of traffic]

[Sally Bourke]: She already feels guilty,

Maisie does;

saying: "Mum, you've got to travel all this way."

It's all about money.

"What? You spend it on coming to see me?"

She carries that burden;

which is just not fair.

A girl of 13 (years old) to-

to feel that (way).

Especially when she's

in hospital, poorly.

[Sound of car driving]

[Somber music with the sound of traffic]

[Sally Bourke]: I don't think (that the)

professional people that make all these decisions about

these units closing

and, you know, (the ones that say)

"Oh, we'll just put a child in a-

in a bed anywhere";

I don't think (that) they realize

the physical effects

that that (decision) has on family members,

you know?

Not just the dynamics of time and,

you know, if you work;