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  • WE'RE BACK WITH SUSAN SARANDON.

  • NOW, SUSAN, BEFORE THE BREAK, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU AS

  • AN AMERICAN CITIZEN FEEL IT'S YOUR DUTY TO BE INVOLVED IN

  • POLITICS.

  • >> AND A PATRIOT.

  • >> Stephen: AND A PATRIOT, OKAY.

  • YOU ARE A SUPPORTER OF BERNIE SANDERS AND I WANT TO POINT OUT

  • WE HAVE THIS PHOTO-- WHICH I BELIEVE YOU PROVIDED FOR US.

  • THIS IS YOU AND HILLARY CLINTON RIGHT THERE.

  • >> I KNOW YOU.

  • >> Stephen: SEEM VERY FRIENDLY.

  • >> LOOK HOW HAPPY WE WERE.

  • AND THEN I HAD TO BREAK UP WITH HER.

  • >> Stephen: WHY DID YOU-- YOU'RE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL COUPLE.

  • WHY DID YOU BREAK UP?

  • >> WELL, I TOLD HER, DON'T GO IN IRAQ.

  • I'M VERY UPSET ABOUT THAT.

  • >> Stephen: THIS IS BEFORE 2003.

  • >> ABSOLUTELY.

  • AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE.

  • AND THERE'S NO EXIT STRATEGY.

  • YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY WAS SAYING.

  • AND SHE WENT IN.

  • SO I WAS, LIKE, WHO IS THIS PERSON?

  • I CAN'T TRUST HER.

  • AND THEN SHE BECAME SECRETARY OF STATE.

  • >> Stephen: YES.

  • >> I'M AN ENVIRONMENTALIST.

  • YOU KNOW, FRACKING IS ABSOLUTELY THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO FOR

  • THE ENVIRONMENT.

  • ( APPLAUSE ) METHANE RUINS THE WATER.

  • SHE GOES BEHIND MY BARK AND SHE'S SELLING IT ALL OVER THE

  • WORLD.

  • >> Stephen: SO SHE DIDN'T CHECK IN WITH YOU?

  • SHE DIDN'T CHECK IN WITH YOU WHEN SHE WAS SECRETARY OF STATE.

  • >> AND MONSTANTO.

  • SHE'S SELLING MONSANTO.

  • >> Stephen: YOU DON'T WANT WHAT IN YOUR CEREAL?

  • >> ROUNDUP.

  • >> Stephen: HOW CAN I TRUST HER?

  • AND THEN I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M A FEMINIST.

  • WE NEED A $15 MINIMUM WAGE.

  • WOMEN NEED TO BE ABLE-- ( APPLAUSE )

  • RIGHT.

  • SHE SAYS IMPOSSIBLE, IMPOSSIBLE, IMPOSSIBLE.

  • >> Stephen: SHE'S CHANGED HER MIND ON THAT.

  • >> NO, SHE'S STILL SAYING THAT.

  • WE WENT AHEAD AND DID IT IN NEW YORK, AND SHE GOES UP NEXT TO

  • CUOMO AND SIGNS IT.

  • HOW CAN I GO BACK WITH HER?

  • I DON'T TRUST HER.

  • YOU KNOW?

  • >> Stephen: REALLY, HERE IS WHO YOU DO SEEM TO TRUST.

  • THIS IS A PICTURE OF YOU LOOKING AT BERNIE, WHO, EVIDENTLY, IS

  • DANGLING FROM THE RAFTERS IN A HARNESS.

  • BUT YOU ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE-- THIS LOOKS LESS LIKE A POLITICAL

  • FOLLOWER AND LIKE A PAINTING OF THE VIRGIN MARY BEING VISITED BY

  • THE ANGEL GABRIEL.

  • >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

  • >> Stephen: TO THE POINT WHERE LOOK HOW EASY IT IS TO MAKE YOU

  • A VIRGIN OF GUADALOUPE.

  • >> I WANT TO TAKE THAT HOME.

  • MAY I TAKE THAT HOME?

  • >> Stephen: YOU MAY TAKE THAT HOME.

  • WHAT IS IT YOU SEE IN BERNIE?

  • WHAT MAKES YOU SO MOON-EYED.

  • >> FIRST OF ALL, HE HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY, MORALLY IN THE

  • RIGHT PLACE MY ENTIRE LIFE.

  • AND TO HAVE THAT KIND OF-- ( APPLAUSE )

  • VOTING, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S TRADE AGREEMENTS, WHETHER OR NOT

  • THE WAR, AND ESPECIALLY FOR ME BECAUSE I ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT

  • GOING INTO IRAQ AND REALLY PAID A PRICE FOR IT.

  • WHEN I SAW HIM STAND UP.

  • AND IF YOU GOOGLE HIS SPEECH, IT'S JUST SO CLEAR AGAINST THE

  • WAR.

  • AT A TIME-- YOU KNOW, GAY RIGHTS, EVERYTHING, BEFORE IT

  • BECAME EASY.

  • HE'S ALWAYS THERE BEFORE IT BECOMES SIMPLE.

  • AND YOU NEED SOMEBODY THAT HAS THE MORAL JUDGMENT BEFOREHAND,

  • NOT WHEN IT'S SAFE.

  • >> Stephen: BUT HE'S ON-- HE'S A LITTLE BIT ON--

  • ( APPLAUSE ) HE HAD-- HE HAD A ROUGH DAY

  • YESTERDAY.

  • HE IS NOW 150 $S BEHIND-- >> BUT YOU KNOW WHAT'S SO GREAT?

  • YOU DON'T SEEM LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO BE READY FOR THIS ANSWER.

  • YOU'RE, LIKE, SO SAD.

  • >> Stephen: NO, NO, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT'S GOING TO BE SO

  • GREAT.

  • >> THEY'RE ALL OPEN PRIMARIES NOW.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT?

  • >> YEAH ALL THE REST OF THE PRIMARIES --

  • >> REPUBLICANS CAN VOTE ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE.

  • >> BECAUSE INDEPENDENTS CAN VOTE, AND HE DOES VERY, VERY

  • WELL WITH INDEPENDENT S.

  • >> Stephen: HE HAS TO GET THE SUPERDELEGATES TO COME OVER TO

  • HIS SIDE, WHICH IS AN UNDEMOCRATIC THING ACCORDING TO

  • HIM SO HE WOULD HAVE TO USE THE THING HE'S CRITICIZING HER FOR

  • USING IN ORDER TO BEAT HER, THAT WOULD BE LIKE--

  • >> CALM DOWN, CALM DOWN -- >> HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO

  • AGAINST HIS OWN VALUES TO BEAT HER.

  • >> YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A CONTESTED ONE.

  • AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO

  • DISCUSS THE WHOLE PROCESS AND THE PLATFORM AND REALLY LISTEN

  • TO PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE NOT NORMALLY LISTENING TO.

  • >> Stephen: I'LL LISTEN TO-- ( APPLAUSE ).

  • >> BECAUSE -- >> I WILL LISTEN TO ANYTHING YOU

  • SAY IF YOU JUST KEEP HOLDING MY HAND THIS ENTIRE TIME.

  • SO IF BERNIE LOSES-- >> I MIGHT GO THERE AND HOLD

  • HANDS.

  • >> Stephen: IF BERNIE IS NOT THE NOMINEE, WOULD YOU VOTE FOR

  • HILLARY CLINTON?

  • >> I'M NOT DEALING WITH THAT YET.

  • ( APPLAUSE ).

  • >> Stephen: WELL, YOU SAID-- IF I GET THIS RIGHT-- YOU SAID,

  • "TRUMP MIGHT BRING THE REVOLUTION FASTER."

  • WHAT ASK THAT MEAN?

  • >> I SAID, "SOME PEOPLE SAY TRUMP MIGHT--" YOU KNOW, I'M

  • MORE AFRAID OF ACTUALLY HILLARY CLINTON'S WAR RECORD AND HER

  • HAWKISHNESS THAN I AM OF BUILDING A WALL.

  • BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WOULD VOTE FOR TRUMP.

  • AND I'M NOT SURE TRUMP'S GOING TO GET IT.

  • I THINK ALL KINDS OF CRAZY THINGS COULD HAPPEN AT THOSE

  • CONVENTIONS.

  • I HOPE YOU'RE GOING TO BE COVERING THEM.

  • YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WILD TIME.

  • >> Stephen: I THINK WE DEFINITELY WILL BE TALKING ABOUT

  • THEM, WE DEFINITELY WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THEM.

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: IT PAYS THE RENT AROUND HERE.

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: SO YOU WOULDN'T VOTE FOR TRUMP OVER HILLARY?

  • >> OH, I MEAN, COME ON.

  • WHO'S GOING TO VOTE FOR TRUMP?

  • SERIOUSLY.

  • ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).

  • >> Stephen: A LOT OF PEOPLE.

  • NO, A LOT OF PEOPLE.

  • >> NO, YOU'VE GOT -- >> A LOT OF PEOPLE.

  • >> YEAH, A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT NOT A LOT OF WOMEN, NOT A LOT OF

  • MINORITIES.

  • ONCE YOU GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE-- HE'S BEEN DOING REALLY

  • WELL AGAINST A CROWDED FIELD.

  • UN.

  • WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

  • >> Stephen: WELL IF-- WELL IF-- WHOEVER GETS THE NOMINATION

  • ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, PLEASE COME BACK AND TALK TO US ABOUT

  • IT AGAIN AND WHATEVER YOUR NEXT MEDDLESOME PROJECT IS.

  • >> OKAY.

  • I WILL.

  • >> Stephen: THANK YOU SO MUCH, SUSAN.

  • "THE MEDDLER" IS OUT NOW IN NEW YORK AND LOS ANGELES, NATIONWIDE

  • IN MAY.

  • SUSAN SARANDON, EVERYBODY.

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

WE'RE BACK WITH SUSAN SARANDON.

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