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  • Hi! I’m Peter Joseph and welcome to: “3 Questions - What do you propose?”

  • This thought exercise is intended as both

  • an address to the average person concerned about global problems

  • along with those who are confused about

  • or even in opposition to The Zeitgeist Movement.

  • I'm going to pose three basic questions here.

  • If you disagree with the answers I provide

  • or perhaps even the premise of the questions themselves

  • I encourage you to respond with an alternative solution or a counterargument.

  • If you choose to do this, just make sure that you have reviewed

  • the sources listed and keep focus.

  • Again this is about the three questions, only.

  • Now, before I begin, the term 'market economy'

  • will be used here throughout.

  • And since people are quick to get lost semantically about what

  • 'capitalism' or a free market supposedly is or isn’t,

  • I am going to define my context now, bypassing any semantic confusion.

  • When I use the term 'market economy', I am simply referring

  • to the core attributes shared by every major market system variation

  • in the world today.

  • And only three basic characteristics are needed here.

  • The 1st is labor for income.

  • Obviously the whole global economy is based on employment;

  • this is how people gain money to survive

  • and spend back into the system, keeping it going.

  • The 2nd is that all resources, goods and services retain property value

  • transferred by means of monetary exchange.

  • Obvious enough.

  • Everything is bought and sold through the use of money

  • mediated by the market itself.

  • And 3rd, the overall incentive strategy is based upon competition for demand

  • whether person-to-person or institution-to-institution

  • all oriented around the interest to

  • (a) save money on production and

  • (b) maximize profits upon final sales.

  • Again, this is the most basic gaming logic present in the market.

  • That’s it: very simple and again these characteristics are universal

  • to all economies functioning in the world today.

  • So on to Question 1:

  • "Given the market economy requires consumption in order to maintain

  • demand for human employment and further economic growth as needed,

  • is there a structural incentive to reduce resource use,

  • biodiversity loss, the global pollution footprint,

  • and hence assist the ever-increasing need for

  • improved ecological sustainability in the world today?"

  • The most basic mechanism of the market is the movement of money.

  • And like the gas pedal on a car

  • if monetary circulation slows, it means demand and turnover slows,

  • and the average effect is a loss of jobs,

  • loss of income and a loss of economic growth.

  • Therefore, consumption is the fuel of the market system

  • and the more we consume, the better the 'health' of the overall economy.

  • Yet this necessity for constant, cyclical consumption

  • is in complete contradiction to what is needed for basic,

  • long-term species survival.

  • Wouldn’t it seem responsible to conclude that

  • the goal of any viable economy

  • is not only to meet the needs of the population, but to do so

  • in the most strategic, efficient and conservative manner possible?

  • Yet the market incentivizes the exact opposite behavior

  • due to this need for constant turnover.

  • In fact, the entire basis of the market can be summarized in one paradox:

  • The market justifies its existence by the recognition of scarcity

  • but due to its structural mechanics

  • actually promotes and rewards infinite consumption."

  • If this confuses you, it might be because

  • this contradiction remained rather hidden in the past.

  • Two hundred years ago, our technical means were primitive

  • and the idea of being able to produce as rapidly as we do now,

  • accessing major resources virtually at will, was a pipe dream.

  • We simply didn’t have the technological efficiency back then.

  • For example 300 years ago a shoemaker could produce maybe

  • a few pairs of high quality shoes a day.

  • Today a common automated shoe factory can produce

  • a pair every 30 seconds or about 4,000 a day.

  • So, the level of production efficiency has increased so dramatically

  • that we are no longer having a problem overcoming any 'scarcity of means'.

  • The problem now is keeping people consuming.

  • By the way, if you are wondering why, in the wake of this great productivity,

  • there are still billions of people who lack the most basic goods

  • that is the result of a different market mechanism

  • which will touched upon in question 3:

  • the inevitability of market generated poverty and inequity.

  • Anyway, back on point:

  • The modern economy is no longer scarcity-based on this level,

  • it is consumption-based

  • as it needs high levels of turnover to keep people employed and growth going.

  • And obviously the side effect of all of this is

  • ever-accelerating resource depletion,

  • biodiversity loss and destabilizing pollution.

  • Now, there are now countless corroborating studies that confirm

  • how the world is increasing in its deficiency to meet the

  • needs of the future population.

  • Some estimates find that humanity will need 27 more Earths

  • by 2050 to meet demand, for example.

  • The rampant, severe biodiversity loss

  • is not only disrupting basic biosphere functions

  • it is now a fact that virtually all life support systems are in decline

  • with 50% of all wildlife having been destroyed in the past 40 years alone.

  • As far as pollution, these issues are nothing but accelerating

  • both water and atmospheric -

  • creating tremendous destabilization and ongoing environmental damage

  • and negative public health outcomes. And keep in mind,

  • as explained at length in The Zeitgeist Movement's materials,

  • these problems are not immutable.

  • They can be fixed, if an economic and industrial reorientation

  • away from market economics was achieved.

  • However, those specifics are not the subject of this essay.

  • For more information on that please read the free online book:

  • 'The Zeitgeist Movement Defined.'

  • Now, as a final point of evidence, a cursory review of

  • all recent historical attempts to stop overconsumption,

  • slow biodiversity loss and reduce pollution, have been met

  • with virtually a stonewalling mentality by the business community.

  • Of course, there is no mystery to this tendency

  • because the fact is: acting in a conservative,

  • truly efficient and sustainable manner is literally the opposite

  • of what the market requires to function in the long term

  • keeping this profit machine going.

  • For example: America’s Environmental Protection Agency

  • has constantly been attacked by interests worried about

  • a loss of income and growth.

  • Just last month the Wall Street Journal ran the headline

  • 'The EPA's Latest Threat to Economic Growth.'

  • attacking the EPA for its interest to improve air quality standards.

  • And they are right! If the EPA does push forward

  • many jobs and billions of dollars will be lost.

  • That is simply what happens when waste reduction and technical efficiency

  • and conservation is applied to this system.

  • If you need a more visceral example

  • look at what the developing nations are doing

  • as they struggle to gain economic growth and raise their standard of living.

  • It's all being done at the expense of the environment.

  • China’s push for massive industrialization and growth has been enabled

  • by keeping low environmental standards

  • and now it has 16 of the world’s most polluted cities.

  • Again if you look carefully, all developing nations are doing the same thing.

  • They simply can’t afford more 'green' industrial methods at this point.

  • As far as resource overshoot and biodiversity loss,

  • perhaps the most clear description of this clash was made

  • in the 2010 Convention of Biological Diversity report.

  • In 2002, 192 countries got together and agreed to slow biodiversity loss

  • only to come back eight years later completely defeated, stating:

  • None of the twenty-one sub-targets accompanying the overall target

  • of significantly reducing the rate of biodiversity loss by 2010

  • can be said definitively to have been achieved globally.

  • Actions to promote biodiversity

  • receive a tiny fraction of 'funding' compared to

  • infrastructure and industrial developments...

  • Moreover, biodiversity considerations are often ignored

  • when such developments are designed...

  • Most future scenarios project high levels of extinctions

  • and loss of habitats throughout this century.”

  • And of course, why would we expect anything else?

  • Our economy literally has no structural incentive to adjust;

  • there is no direct market reward to preserve resources,

  • habitats or reduce consumption in general.

  • All it knows is that people need to keep buying stuff

  • and the more they buy, the better everything is supposed to be.

  • So back to the question, I ask again:

  • "Given the market economy requires consumption in order to maintain

  • demand for human employment and further economic growth as needed,

  • is there a structural incentive to reduce resource use,

  • biodiversity loss, the global pollution footprint,

  • and hence assist the ever-increasing need for

  • improved ecological sustainability in the world today?"

  • The answer is 'No'.

  • There is only the external incentive

  • meaning the frustrated outcry of concerned citizens,

  • demanding this or that change

  • which, in truth, simply won't do anything in the long run.

  • Why? Because it goes against the most basic premise

  • of the market's functionality itself.

  • The only true solution is to overcome the structural flaw,

  • not by fighting it with legislation, but by changing the system.

  • To do that, we must replace the current economic model

  • with one that structurally incentivizes and rewards conservation,

  • true technical efficiency and overall sustainability.

  • And on a final note, right now it is safe to project

  • that due to this habitat destruction, biodiversity loss,

  • resource overshoot and CO2 pollution,

  • we very well could be entering a period of what's called

  • the '6th Great Extinction' on Earth.

  • And unless thing change rapidly the next generation

  • will be one of great suffering and disorder.

  • Question 2:

  • "In an economic system where companies seek to limit their production costs

  • in order to maximize profits and remain competitive against other producers,

  • what structural incentive exists to keep human beings employed,

  • in the wake of an emerging technological condition where the majority of jobs

  • can now be done more cheaply and effectively by machine automation?"

  • The long standing defense of those who claim there is no problem

  • with machines replacing human jobs

  • is that overall technological innovation will simply balance everything out

  • by eventually creating new human occupations,

  • absorbing anyone who is displaced prior.

  • And while this perspective may have seemed viable

  • given early periods of slow technological change,

  • the ever-exponential advancement of automation potential

  • is now far outpacing the creation of new, human-exclusive labor roles.

  • And as the trends show

  • it is simply a matter of time before it becomes most cost effective,

  • reliable and productive, in all major economic fields to automate.

  • First, let’s consider the potential. Today there are numerous

  • corroborating studies showing the capacity of automation

  • including the conclusion that right now

  • over half of the world’s jobs can be mechanized.

  • Second, we need to consider

  • (A) the trends of employment shifts by industry

  • (B) the staggering rise in productivity related

  • and (C) how automation costs are undercutting human labor costs.

  • I’ll be using the United States as a statistical base, a proxy if you will.

  • For if it applies to the US, given its advanced technological state,

  • then it applies to the rest of the world

  • in the context of trends and potential.

  • Sector Shifts

  • There are three core economic sectors:

  • Agriculture, Industrial and Service.

  • In 1870, about 75% of Americans worked in agriculture

  • while today it's about 2%. Why?

  • Well, there certainly hasn’t been a loss of agricultural demand, right?

  • And while food imports in the US have grown to about 17%

  • that obviously doesn’t balance the near 98% drop

  • in its related employment sector since 1870.

  • And neither do increases in textile fabric imports and the like.

  • This drop is almost entirely a result of machine automation.

  • Where did the jobs go? The Industrial sector and the Service sector.

  • US Industrial labor reached its peak around 1950

  • dropping from almost 40% to about 20%.

  • Why? Well, the common assumption is that globalization

  • and labor outsourcing in manufacturing is the cause.

  • And while there may be short term and regional relevance to this

  • on the global scale, in the long term, it is completely irrelevant

  • as virtually all nations, especially the developed nations,

  • are experiencing the exact same trends.

  • The reason hence is the same, as with agriculture:

  • technological application displacing human labor.

  • Now we come to the Service sector.

  • Today over 80% of jobs exist here. It has been the safe zone

  • given this kind of work is less physical

  • and more about mental focus and thought.

  • It is more versatile and difficult.

  • And up until the late 20th century the idea of 'thinking machines'

  • and advanced machines that could replace these variant labor roles

  • was pretty much deemed science fiction.

  • Yet, this sector is now quickly being threatened due to

  • the exponential advancement in programmable intelligence and robotics.

  • Bank machines, automated phone systems,

  • point-of-sale kiosks, processing programs for general software,

  • restaurant automation, automated transport of course-...

  • If you can think of it, someone is working to automate it.

  • And just like agriculture and the industrial sector

  • the use of automation is also ensuring: (a) higher productivity

  • and (b) lower costs for the businesses.

  • Trend statistics prove this without a doubt.

  • (a) Productivity: Human employment is now actually inverse

  • to productivity in most cases

  • meaning that in all instances of automation

  • it not only removes jobs, it actually increases output efficiency.

  • Here is a classic chart example from manufacturing.

  • The blue line is the increase in production and the red line

  • is human employment. It's a staggering diversion.

  • (b) As far as cost reduction, what needs to be understood

  • is that all technological innovation

  • is now becoming what’s called 'information-based'.

  • Whether it is literally the digital programming,

  • such as the program running a machine,

  • or the very process of creation of the physical machine itself.

  • And what is the developmental trend of information-based technology

  • in the 21st century? Exponential.

  • And this is not only relating to the advancement of the technology itself

  • making things smaller, stronger and more powerful,

  • it also reduces resource needs

  • and the cost of emerging technology invariably becomes cheaper.

  • As a classic example

  • this is why the chip in a common cell phone is thousands of times

  • more powerful and less expensive than the supercomputer of the 1970s.

  • Hence it is simply a matter of time

  • before a great many of currently out-of-reach automation tools,

  • such as thinking cybernated robotics,

  • can perform virtually any basic human role

  • and become so affordable, that not to automate becomes

  • a detrimental business decision.

  • And by the way, if you are one of those techno-capitalist apologists

  • that says this price decrease in cost will simply make consumer goods

  • that much cheaper as well, and therefore compensate

  • for the loss of income generated by the use of automation,

  • you are overlooking one critical function of the market system:

  • The market needs scarcity to function.

  • Abundance has no role in market mechanics.

  • And the profit structure itself does not view reducing costs

  • as a means to simply increase affordability

  • of the end product in and of itself.

  • It does it, first and foremost, to increase profits!

  • The only reason you see the price reduction

  • is because of the competition occurring in industry,

  • as each company works to one-up each other’s cost efficiency basis

  • via similar methods.

  • The point being, regardless of how cheap things become

  • at some point the consumption deficiency resulting

  • by the number of people unemployed by automation

  • will override whatever degree of affordability is being generated

  • by the lower cost products created. It is inevitable.

  • And keep in mind - and this is really critical - all it takes is 20-30%

  • of human unemployment to destabilized society into disorder and outrage.

  • That’s it. So the question isn’t "will we automate everything?"

  • The real question is: At what point will the cost efficiency of applied

  • automation produce 'just enoughunemployment

  • to cause social destabilization and a debilitating loss of economic growth?

  • So I ask again:

  • "In an economic system where companies seek to limit their production costs

  • in order to both maximize profits

  • and remain competitive against other producers,

  • what structural incentive exists to keep human beings employed,

  • in the wake of an emerging technological condition

  • where the majority of jobs can now be done more cheaply

  • and effectively by machine automation?"

  • The answer is that there isn't such an incentive,

  • at least not structurally. Some kind of general incentive may exist

  • given the common sense awareness that people do need jobs

  • for the market economy to function.

  • But that recognition implies that employers would bypass such cost savings

  • and efficiency and safety-increasing technology just to give people jobs.

  • The reality is that if a business has the choice between a human and a machine

  • and the machine is more productive and affordable

  • they will choose machine, as per market logic, every time.

  • If they didn’t they would lose a competitive edge

  • as one of their more ruthless competitors certainly will make that move.

  • Therefore, the only true, logical and responsible solution in this scenario

  • is to remove the labor-for-income system itself

  • hence removing the market

  • and evolving to a new kind of economic interaction.

  • Question 3:

  • "In an economic system which inherently generates

  • class stratification and overall inequity

  • how can the effects of 'Structural Violence'

  • - a phenomenon noted by public health researchers to kill

  • well over 18 million a year,

  • generating a vast range of systemic detriments such as behavioral,

  • emotional and physical disorders -

  • be minimized or even removed as an effect?"

  • Many today talk about the horror of unnecessary death and suffering

  • from dramatic accidents to psychopathic behavioral violence

  • to historical genocides, wars and other atrocities.

  • In this, we might notice a kind of moral relativism

  • in what society prioritizes as most condemnable

  • most often highlighting visceral, human vs. human behavioral violence

  • rather than taking a more objective view.

  • Statistically, if we really wish to be comprehensive

  • in locating the most prominent, ubiquitous, and unnecessary causes of death

  • and suffering in the world, we would discover one main catalyst:

  • class inequality and low socioeconomic status.

  • Class inequality and low socioeconomic status

  • trump every other form of violence and public threat, hands down.

  • The leading cause of death on the planet Earth

  • is relative and absolute poverty. Period!

  • Every single year, the near equivalent of two holocausts

  • - nearly 20 million people - are killed

  • by the inefficiency inherent to the market economy

  • and its mathematical inevitability to create large class divisions

  • and resulting human deprivation.

  • In this, there are two types of deprivation to note:

  • Absolute and Relative.

  • Absolute deprivation is what the billion people currently

  • not getting their basic nutritional needs are experiencing.

  • This kind of deprivation is about basic physical needs not being met

  • and hence the manifestation of sickness and premature mortality

  • due to a lack of resources and options.

  • Relative deprivation has to do with the mental, emotional

  • and physical disorders that result from the stress of simply existing

  • in the lower tiers of a wealth imbalanced society.

  • For example: Numerous studies

  • that compare public health outcomes from one country to another,

  • based on the level of inequality in that country,

  • have found that those with the least amount of behavioral violence,

  • the least amount of general crime, infant deaths,

  • drug addictions, heart disease, many cancers, obesity,

  • high blood pressure, low-life expectancy, depression,

  • general mental illness and other reduced problems,

  • also have lower wealth inequality by comparison.

  • Put together, these two forms of deprivation, Absolute and Relative,

  • constitute what is called 'Structural Violence'

  • which is a systemic form of violence,

  • that is typically not what many think of when we consider

  • the idea of violence in general.

  • I’ll put it this way: If I put a gun to your head and kill you

  • we would all agree it is a direct act of mortality producing violence.

  • If I run a company that decides to save money by covertly

  • dumping toxic waste into your town’s water supply

  • and then three years later a group of you in town get cancer

  • and die from that pollution, I think we would all agree

  • that it is also an act of mortality producing violence

  • but more indirect and less obvious in intent. Likewise,

  • it is now well established that people with low socioeconomic status

  • are much more likely to die of heart disease than those in upper classes.

  • It is a known fact that the toxic condition of simply being poor

  • both in absolute and relative terms,

  • manifests this disease, amongst many others.

  • And yet, when people do die as such,

  • rarely does someone bring up the idea of indirect violence

  • or more accurately: Structural Violence. Why?

  • Because the outcome can only be measured by statistics across a population

  • and not deduced from any singular case.

  • So it is counterintuitive to our education.

  • But yet, there is no principled difference

  • between being killed by a gun shot to the head

  • being poisoned by a company's pollution

  • or dying of heart disease because of the causal chain reaction

  • set in motion by the economic system:

  • a system that artificially generates economic inequality and poverty

  • invariably forcing some people to exist

  • in the toxic condition of low socioeconomic status.

  • Now you will notice... I said the word 'artificial'

  • because this poverty is not inevitable

  • or some immutable natural law of human society

  • just as shooting you with a gun is not inevitable

  • and just as polluting your water supply is not inevitable.

  • The class system we endure today is a product of the market system

  • and it can be removed

  • along with the two holocausts occurring every year because of it.

  • This may not have been the case in the past

  • but it is definitely true today

  • given modern technological capacity to create a global abundance.

  • The fact is, low socioeconomic status

  • is the leading cause of death on the planet Earth.

  • And what does that mean by extension?

  • If economic inequality and inevitable poverty is technically unnecessary

  • and merely a structural outcome of the market economy itself

  • then it means the market is the leading cause of death on the planet today.

  • So back to the question:

  • "In an economic system which inherently generates class stratification

  • and overall inequity, how can the effects of 'Structural Violence'

  • - a phenomenon noted by public health researchers

  • to kill well over 18 million a year,

  • generating a vast range of systemic detriments such as

  • behavioral, emotional and physical disorders,

  • be minimized or even removed as an effect?"

  • The answer, of course, is it can't be removed.

  • It’s built-in system effect, and the longer we have the market

  • the more holocausts will occur.

  • And we will see three and four holocausts a year as time goes forward

  • given the extreme rise in economic inequity

  • and this statistic shows no sign of slowing.

  • As far as being minimized,

  • yes, I guess some kind of wealth reallocation could emerge

  • but the effect would be minimal as it still does little to address

  • the true structural source of the problem.

  • It would be just a patch.

  • Not to mention, the odds of that occurring at all is deeply improbable

  • as any such direct action would inherently be a violation

  • of the very nature of free market theory, right?

  • which assumes market action itself is self-regulating

  • and any type of state imposition is wrong.

  • And by the way, if you are one of those people who says

  • that we don’t have a free market today

  • and we have state coercion or crony capitalism

  • please watch my lecture

  • Origins and Adaptations Part IIfrom the University of Toronto in 2014

  • along with my Berlin lecture "Economic Calculation in a NLRBE" in 2013

  • where I counter this nonsense specifically.

  • We have only a pure free market in the exact sense of those terms

  • meaning the freedom to compete

  • and restrict the freedom of others in that process.

  • Now I'm going to stop here.

  • These three questions are my challenge to you.

  • Each question poses a challenge to the very basis of the market system itself

  • and if any of you out there can answer these questions

  • and explain long-term resolutions,

  • without the removal of the market economy, I certainly want to hear it!

  • Simply make a video response, post it, and send it to the link below.

  • And please everyone, share this video.

  • These are the questions that every news show and

  • every socially conscious media outlet or activist personality

  • should be addressing.

  • Again, if you support The Zeitgeist Movement

  • take the time to post this via social networks,

  • forums, blogs, email lists, whatever.

  • I especially would like to hear from the anti-zeitgeist movement

  • community as well. What do you propose?

  • One way or another

  • until these questions are answered and the problems resolved

  • the world is on pace to increasing disorder and breakdown.

  • I appreciate your time. Thank you.

  • See full transcript link with sources in text below.

Hi! I’m Peter Joseph and welcome to: “3 Questions - What do you propose?”

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