Rob: And I'm Rob.

Rob:我是Rob

Alice: So Rob, did you have a part time job while you were at university?

Alice:Rob，你在念大學時有去打工嗎？

Rob: Yes, I worked in the student bar.

Rob:有阿，我在學生酒吧打工

Alice: Did you learn anything from the experience?

Alice:那你有從這份工作中學到什麼嗎？

Rob: I learned how to pull a decent pint.

Rob:我學到如何拉一杯漂亮的生啤酒

Alice: Did you learn anything else?

Alice:你還有學到其他的嗎？

Rob: Yes, I learned how to add up.

Rob:有阿，我學到如何加總

Alice: Didn't they teach you that at school?

Alice:這個學校沒有教嗎？

Rob: I wasn't good at doing sums in my head ... you know ... mental arithmetic.

Rob:我不擅長心算…你知道的…直接在腦中算數

But I got pretty good at it as a barman.

但我是個很稱職的酒保

They didn't have computerized cash registers in my day, you see.

那時沒有收銀機這種東西

Alice: I didn't realize you were that old, Rob!

Alice:我不知道你這麼老了！Rob!

Anyway, the subject of today's show is young business entrepreneurs.

不論如何，今天節目的主題是年輕企業家

So, can you answer this question:

所以，你可以回答這個問題嗎：

How young were the founders of Facebook and Microsoft when they first set up their companies?

臉書和微軟的創辦人是在幾歲時第一次創立他們的公司？

Were they... a) junior high-school students

當他們…a)國中時

b) high-school students

b)高中時

Or c) university students?

或c)大學時？

Rob: And Alice in case you think I don't know,

Rob:Alice,以防你以為我不知道

Facebook is an online social networking service

臉書是一個社群網路

and Microsoft is a computer software company. OK?

而微軟是一個電腦軟體公司。OK？

Alice: Very good! Well done!

Alice:非常好！

Rob: Well I'm going to say they were b) high-school students.

Rob:好的，我要說他們是 b)高中生

Alice: We'll find out if you chose the right answer later on in the programme.

Alice:我們將會在稍後的節目中知道你的選擇是否正確

But let's talk now about what drawbacks ... or disadvantages ... there are for young entrepreneurs.

我們現在來談談對於年輕企業家來說不利的地方

What do you think, Rob?

你怎麼想的，Rob?

Rob: Hmm. Well, I suppose one of the drawbacks of being young and your own boss

Rob:嗯…我猜想到一個成為年輕和自己的老闆的不利的點

is that everyone who works for you is older than you!

是：每個為你工作的人年齡都比你大！

Alice: Is that a drawback?

Alice:這是不利的地方嗎？

Rob: Well, let's consider a real case.

Rob:我們來想想一個真實的案例

Young British entrepreneur Suleman Sacranie started his first company when he was 17,

年輕的英國籍企業家Suleman Sacranie在他17歲的時候開創他的第一家公司

followed by another business shortly afterwards.

接著立即是另一個事業緊跟在後

Then while studying chemistry at university

然後同時在大學就讀化學時

he started his third company, an online version of the pound shop

他開始了他的第三個公司，在美國的一個網路版的鎊店

or dollar store in the US where everything in the shop is priced at one pound.

或一價店，在店裡的所有物品都是以一磅為單位標價的

Let's listen to Suleman Sacranie talking about his company.

我們來聽聽Suleman Sacranie說說他的公司

Suleman Sacranie: I'm actually quite fortunate now, compared to what I was six months ago

Suleman Sacranie:和六個月前的我相比，我現在十分的幸運

because now I've got two additional directors who have grey hair.

因為我現在有另外的兩位有灰髮的理事

It actually... commercial meetings are excellent now, you know.

事實上是…商業上的會議現在非常的棒，你知道的

But before that I think I came across quite professional but you could still tell they

在這之前我想我有碰到十分專業的人員，但你仍可以說他們是

were thinking in the back of their heads, 'I've got a kid sitting in front of me.'

用後腦杓在思考，「有一個小孩坐在我的前面」

Rob: So young entrepreneur Suleman Sacranie has got two grey-haired directors working with him now.

Rob:所以年輕的企業家Suleman Sacranie現在有兩位灰髮理事和他一起工作

Alice: That's right, but how does having grey-haired executives on board help, Rob?

Alice:是的，但為何擁有灰髮董事助陣有幫助呢？Rob

Rob: Well, 'executives' are people who run a business and on board means being part of a team.

Rob:「董事」是那些使商業運作的人，而助陣意味著成為團體中的一部分

Well, to answer your question, Alice, they bring experience to the table.

為了回答你的問題，Alice，他們會將經驗運用在檯面上

I have a few grey hairs you know ... you could learn a lot from me.

你知道嘛我有一些灰頭髮…你可以從我身上學到很多東西

Alice: I do, Rob. Everyday.

Alice:是的，我可以，Rob。每天

And if you bring something to the table it means you provide something useful.

如果你將某物帶上檯面，這代表你提供很有用的建議之類的東西

Well, what do you bring to the table, Rob?

那麼，你將什麼東西搬上檯面呢？Rob?

Rob: Well, bad jokes, peanuts, crisps, cups of coffee, that sort of thing...

Rob:爛笑話、花生、洋芋片、咖啡…這類的東西…

Alice: I was going to say a keen mind, in other words, a well-developed mind, and...

Alice:我說的是一顆敏銳的心，換句話說，是一顆發育良好的心靈，和

great business acumen!

在商業上的聰明表現良好！

Rob: Come on, you weren't going to say that!

Rob:拜託，你不曾說過那些！

Alice: You're right, I wasn't.

Alice:你說的對，我不曾說過

Acumen means good judgement.

Acumen的意思是擁有良好的判斷能力

But don't worry, you have an abundant enthusiasm that makes up for it.

但別擔心，你擁有可以補償這些的熱情

But moving on now, do you think that school prepared you well for working life?

接下來，你覺得學校給你充足的準備好讓你迎接工作嗎？

Rob: No, not really. I studied Latin at school, and I don't use that much.

Rob:不，不盡然。我在校學習了拉丁語，但我並沒有很常用到它

And maths ... well, I never use trigonometry or calculus.

還有數學…痾…我不曾用到三角函數和微積分

So I'm not sure how useful maths lessons were...

所以我不確定數學課的實用性…

Alice: Yes, and you only learned to add up in the university bar after all...

Alice:是的，你畢竟你只有在大學的酒吧學習加總…

Rob: Yes, but I am very good at it!

Rob:是阿，但那是我現在擅長的！

And the point is that I've got a fantastic job now.

還有重點是：我現在擁有一個令我很喜愛的工作

And if you're really interested in something you can always acquire ... or get the skills you don't have.

如果你對於自己一直在學習的東西，或你不曾學習過的技能有興趣

Let's listen to successful young entrepreneur Jessica Rose talking about her experience.

我們來聽聽成功又年輕的企業家Jessica Rose講述他的經驗

She works with jewellery.

她從事珠寶商的工作

Jessica Rose: I didn't need all these previous skills and experience to go out there and start on my own.

Jessica Rose:我不需要以前所學的技術和經驗還開始和開創我的事業

When I first started I had no business training whatsoever, no jewellery training whatsoever,

當我第一次開創事業我不曾受過任何商業訓練、不曾受過任何要進珠寶業的訓練

but I kind of woke up one day and thought I'd really love to be a jewellery designer.

但我有天起床的時候想想，我非常的想要成為一位珠寶設計專家

Which is kind of a tricky position to be in,

這是多麼的微妙的一個職位

because it's you know, a lot of people would say and did say, well, you know, you're mad.

因為你知道的，很多人會說或曾說些話，讓你生氣

Alice: So Jessica Rose used her savings to learn jewellery making

Alice:所以Jessica Rose之後用她的積蓄去學習珠寶的製作

and then set up her own jewellery-making business.

接著創立了她的珠寶製作事業

Rob: And despite setting out with no business experience and no jewellery training,

Rob:除了從沒有事業經驗和珠寶行的訓練

her enthusiasm for the article paid off.

她對要完成這件事的熱忱有了成果

Alice: And that means it was successful.

Alice:這代表她成功了

Rob: A bit like me...

Rob:有點像我…

Alice: Yes. OK, I think it's time for the answer to today's quiz question.

Alice:好的，我想是時候該來回答今天測驗的問題了

I asked: How young were the founders of Facebook and Microsoft when first set up their companies?

我的問題是：臉書和微軟的創辦人是在幾歲時第一次創立他們的公司？

Were they... a) junior high-school students,

他們是a)國中時

b) high-school students

b)高中時

Or c) university students?

還是c)大學時？

Rob: I said b) high-school students.

Rob:我的回答是b)高中時

Alice: And you were wrong, I'm afraid, Rob. Sorry.

Alice:你答錯囉！我想，Rob，很抱歉囉

Rob: Again.

Rob:再一次

Alice: Yes. Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates were both university students when they started their companies.

Alice:是的。 Mark Zuckerberg 和Bill Gates都是大學時第一創立他們的公司

Zuckerberg was studying at Harvard in the US when he launched Facebook in 2004.

當Zuckerberg在2004年成立臉書時，他正在美國就讀哈佛大學

And Bill Gates took a break from Harvard to launch Microsoft in 1976, but never returned to his studies.

而Bill Gates在1976年成立微軟公司時，他已經是從哈佛休學中了。但他之後並沒有再回去就讀

Rob: Both at Harvard ... that's a coincidence.

Rob:都是就讀哈佛大學…這是一個巧合

I wonder if the bar there was any good...

我在想酒吧是不是一個很好的…

Now can we hear the words we learned today?

現在我們可以聽聽今天所學到的單字嗎？

Alice: Yes. OK. They are:

Alice:好阿，有：

drawbacks

不利

executives

總經理

on board

在船上

bring something to the table

將某東西帶上檯面

keen

敏銳的

(business) acumen

（商業上）聰明的

acquire

學習

paid off

付出有了代價

Rob: Thanks, Alice. Well, that's the end of today's 6 Minute English.

Rob:謝謝你，Alice。那麼，今天的6分鐘英語到了尾聲

We hope you've enjoyed the new vocabulary we brought to the table.

我們希望你們有沉浸在我們帶上檯面的新的單字中

Alice: Very good.

Alice:非常好

Rob: Please join us again soon!

Rob:請再加入我們喔！

Both: Bye.

兩人一起說：掰掰