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  • Let's talk a bit about something that we mentioned earlier which is the high stakes in this event Tuesday night for Jeb bush.

    來談談稍早我們提及的週二晚間辯論賽中傑布‧布希面臨的挑戰

  • You know we've probably said it three debates in a row now so I hesitate to say it again but it does seem inescapably true

    雖說有三次辯論,但我很猶豫,而且無可避免事實就是如此

  • that he's gotta do something now to separate himself from the pack and to show that Jeb Bush is a commodity

    他必須做些改變,讓自己與目前的表現不同,來展現傑布‧布希的特質,就像是有個商品

  • that didn't just look good six months ago that still good and valuable today.

    在半年前已被看好,且今天仍是個有價值的搶手貨

  • Well, the biggest this for him. This is a donor debate that's what this is about for him.

    這對他來說真的很重要。這是場募款辯論會,對他來說亦是如此。

  • And then, in our reporting, we talked to many Bush donors who said "look we may have to leave but we're not gonna go right now, this is his shot ."

    在報導中,我們和許多布希的「金主」談話,表示或許會背棄他,但時機未到,因為這是他大顯身手的機會。

  • So the financial lifeblood of his campaign is on the line Tuesday night.

    所以週二晚間的辯論攸關他競選的重要金援

  • yeah, exactly. And what you have to do to make good on it ?

    是呀,正是如此。你有什麼建議嗎?

  • He's got a tough needle and thread there he told us from the beginning, I think in an interview with you early on

    他面臨了一項難題,一開始他就告訴過我們,應該是在前陣子和你的訪談中

  • that the nominee has to be win to lose the primary race to win the general election. Mission accomplished so far.

    被提名的候選人在初選中獲勝然後贏得進入大選的機會。目前為止都有做到。

  • Him on immigration, he is out of step with the base on Common Core the national education standards.

    在移民政策上,他在共同核心教學標準這方面的想法有所不一

  • he's out of step with the base and he said you're gonna know me, I'm gonna be distinguished by my unwillingness to change on those two positions

    與基礎核心不同,他說民眾會了解我的,我不願意改變對這兩項的看法,這也是我和別人的不同之處

  • to meet the times and you gonna accept me as I am and I'm gonna run joyfully on by the full plate of issues including those were out of step with the base.

    這才符合時代所需,大眾會接受我,並持續欣然競選,處理各種議題,包含那些沒有與時俱進的基礎

  • Marco Rubio has finessed immigration much more than Jeb bush, he stepped away from a comprehensive immigration bill,

    就移民政策而言,馬可‧魯比奧表現得比傑布還要好,他跳脫出全面移民法案的框架

  • but he hasn't renounced everything he believes in immigration, and somehow has softened his position.

    但至今尚未宣布放棄他對移民政策的想法,也因此多少軟化了他這方面的立場

  • This debate should play right into his wheelhouse, he is a policy wonk and he has studied this for his life, his lifetime. He is an ex governor he has a record.

    這次的辯論對他相當有利,完全是他的專業,他是個政治老手,一生專研於此,曾任州長,有經歷

  • He knows how things work in Washington, everything about all of those attributes should be to put a good use tonight or tomorrow on Tuesday night,

    深知華盛頓的運作情形,所有相關特性都應該好好利用,不論是明天週二晚間的辯論或是其他時候

  • because the conversation should be about policy economics and taxes.

    因為談論的內容應該和經濟政策和收稅議題

  • The other thing about Jeb bush that is surprising is in our last Wall Street Journal NBC News poll, we asked about the qualities of various candidates,

    另一件令人訝異的事跟傑布‧布希有關,上次華爾街日報和全國廣播公司的聯合民調,調查了候選人支持度

  • and we asked how do you rate this person on being effective in getting things done and Jeb Bush did not rate very highly on getting things done.

    詢問以辦事效率來說,會如何評分候選人,結果顯示傑布‧布希獲得的評分並沒有很高

  • Donald Trump is perceived by Republican voters is far more effective in getting things done.And yet, Donald Trump through his businesses have gone into bankruptcy as we know.

    反而共和黨選民認為唐納德‧川普的辦事效率遠遠高於其他人。然而,我們知道川普曾面臨事業破產

  • Jeb bush, by contrast was a very successful governor of Florida, a very conservative governor and at the end of his term he came out being perceived

    相反地,傑布‧布希在擔任佛羅里達前州長時相當成功,非常保守,在任期最後民眾視他為

  • as the most as an example of successful conservative governance that somehow is not conveyed in this election is. It is available to him as something to say more forcefully.

    最成功的保守州長典範,但不知為何在這次選舉中沒有顯露出這項特點。他大可以更加強而有力地表現出來

  • which I think drives him crazy. But it is room to grow, if they don't understand that and it's been a long time since he was on a ballot.

    我覺得這快讓他抓狂了。但這仍有成長的空間,如果他們不懂這個原則的話,再說他已經參政許久了

  • so a lot of people don't remember his record so if he can remind them and educate them that's an opportunity.

    很多人都不記得他的政治經歷了,所以如果他能讓大眾想起這點,那這就會是個大好機會。

Let's talk a bit about something that we mentioned earlier which is the high stakes in this event Tuesday night for Jeb bush.

來談談稍早我們提及的週二晚間辯論賽中傑布‧布希面臨的挑戰

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