Let’s talk about that.

我們這就來談談

Good mythical morning!

大家早上好!

Alright, yesterday we released a new music video on our main channel.

我們昨天在主頻道上釋出了一支新MV

It’s called epic rap battle: nerd vs geek.

叫做「饒舌史上大對決: 書呆與奇客」(註: geek原指智力超群，善於鑽研但不愛社交的學者或知識分子)

Thank you for checking that out, for commenting, for sharing that amongst all of your peoples,

謝謝大家觀看、評論、分享

especially if they’re interested in the worlds of nerdem and geekdem,

尤其感謝那些對書呆子和奇客世界有興趣的人

which as we’ve discovered in the research of the writing of the song and producing of the music video

我們在寫歌、拍MV的時候

are two distinct worlds which cozy up to one another.

發現這兩種人有時候滿互補的

Perhaps they overlap in some areas.

也許書呆和奇客有共同特質

There’s quite a bit of crossover.

共同特質還不少

Well, let’s give you a little background first.

先給大家解釋下吧

So this video was sponsored by tigerdirect.

這部影片是由tigerdirect贊助的

Thanks to tigerdirect for letting us shoot in the store and giving us the stuff that we used in the video.

謝謝tigerdirect (註: 賣電腦、電子用品的線上零售商)讓我們在店裡拍攝、提供道具

In Miami!

是在邁阿密拍攝的唷!

But the original concept that we talked about was the epic rap battle of nerdiness.

我們最初的點子是用「書呆氣質」當主題 做一首饒舌歌曲

Cuz you know, we have the original epic rap battle, we have the epic rap battle of manliness

最早期是「獨創饒舌大賽」 之後有「饒舌大賽之男子氣概」

and then we’re like let’s do epic rap battle of nerdiness.

我們就想試試「饒舌大賽之書呆氣質」

And then in the very early stages in developing the idea,

早在組織這個想法時

we started doing some research on like what makes you nerdy

我們就研究了書呆子的特徵

and all of a sudden we saw these different articles about geek versus nerd and we’re like,

突然一堆「書呆與奇客」的文章就跑了出來 我們心想

Oh! That’s even better cuz now there’s a battle between the geek and the nerd.

哇! 太好啦 已經有人在討論這兩個名詞了

Well, I mean yeah, once it occurred to us that there was more of a story there

我們一發現其中大有故事

and the two characters being different and not being nerds kind of thing,

書呆和奇客並不一樣時

it made it more interesting.

事情就越來越有趣了

I mean I certainly had a point of reference that nerds and geeks aren’t the same thing.

我有充分理由證明書呆和奇客並不同

I know that. – Yeah I wasn’t saying that.

-這是確定的 -我沒說他們一樣

It seemed like a better thing to have a rap battle about.

能拿來唱上一段的

Wasn’t that who’s more nerdy but the geek versus nerd that caught me.

不是誰更書呆 而是「書呆對上奇客」 這個更吸引我

But what I didn’t understand was how intricately you could parse the differences between the two.

但你要怎麼「精闢剖析」兩者的不同呢?

And I’m using words like parse in order to be a little bit more nerdy… not really.

我用「精闢」、「剖析」之類的字 為了聽起來更像書呆子…沒差嗎?

Or is it geeky?

是不是比較像奇客會說的字?

Oh, is it?

是嗎?

A guy named, this is the dude’s name, Ber Settles

有個人叫波爾˙賽特 這是他的真名

Which is also – yes he does- also a sentences. It’s also a sentence.

同時也是… -沒錯 -也是一個句子

Ber you should never settle man. Don’t settle.

波爾 你不該輕易滿足現狀 別輕易滿足(註: settle有雙關意，姓名或安頓)

This guy’s a nerd.

這傢伙是個書呆子

Unless its your last name then just own it.

不過如果是你的姓氏 就留著吧

This guy’s a nerd, I think, because he developed, he actually went in and did this global search of twitter.

我覺得他是書呆子 因為他真的深入研究 把推特翻了個遍

And saw how often certain subjects were associated with the word geek or the word nerd

調查哪些字詞常被跟「書呆」或「奇客」聯想在一起

And then he created a graph that has a bunch of words on there that we’ll put on here

之後做了一張密密麻麻的表 我們會秀在這邊

That shows, it’s basically a function you know, of things that becomes more geeky or things becoming more nerdy

這張表的功能基本上告訴你某些字有多書呆或多奇客、

on this scale and then whether or not things are nerdy or geeky.

哪些字比較書呆 哪些比較奇客

And I think .. – Now first of all, I will say the fact that someone went through all this trouble, like you said

-我覺得… -首先 我認為某人煞費苦心的弄出這張圖 如你所說

I’m pretty sure that makes him a nerd especially because the presentation of the chart,

我相信就是這個創舉讓他變成書呆子

it doesn’t look cool graphically.

尤其這張圖並不吸引人

That would be something that a geek would do.

而奇客就會讓圖表看起來很酷

A nerd would parse all this data and figure out how to segment it and compile it and all this type of stuff

書呆子徹底分析一切數據 然後將之分段、彙編之類的

that you do with data but then a geek would be the one who would make it cool looking.

奇客則把資料轉化成一張有特色的圖

And this one looks very nerdy, and it’s like illegible as you get into the more geeky,

這張看起來就是書呆子做的 奇客程度越高的字越難懂

maybe because he’s a nerd he’s like ‘I don’t care how geeky it gets’ that’s when you can’t read it anymore.

或許因為圖表製作人本身是書呆 他才不在乎奇客的字好不好懂

Here’s what I want to do. Because we did some research and I know you have looked at this - right.

-這樣吧 我們之前做了些研究 而你已經看過這張表 -是的

But I want to see if this stuff is still with you.

我想看看你還記不記得

I’m just gonna name some of these things that are right along this line

我要挑幾個單詞

whether it’s geek or nerd and I want you to tell me whether this is a geeky thing or a nerdy thing.

有可能歸在奇客或書呆子類 你要告訴我哪個單字是哪一類

Well, start further out first. Okay further out.

-從最極端的字開始 -好

Cellist.

大提琴演奏者

Someone who plays the cello.

拉大提琴的人

That’s a nerd. Now that’s interesting because I’ve never heard of the term band nerd

書呆 這就奇了 我之前沒聽過樂團書呆這種字眼

But I’ve heard of the term band-geek.

但我聽過樂團奇客(註: 熱愛樂器演奏的人)

But when I think of someone who plays the cello,

當我想到大提琴家

I picture a nerd.

就直接想到書呆

Well yeah, I mean you’re right. This is the nerdiest thing on the scale

嗯 是沒錯啦 這是表上最最書呆的單字

Again, this is so difficult because band geek.

這題滿難的 我一直在想樂團奇客

What do they play?

他們玩什麼樂器?

They play brass?

銅管樂器?

Yeah yeah if I said tuba, you would go with geek. I don’t know.

如果我說簧管演奏者 你就會覺得是奇客 我不知道啦

No I wouldn’t.

不會啊 並不會

I’m just, look listen, I’m just, I’m the messenger here.

別這樣 我只是把單字念出來

Okay. What else?

好啦 還有什麼?

Web comic.

網路漫畫

Geek.

奇客類

Of course. Here’s .. here’s something a little…

太簡單了 有個字更…

Let’s go with genius.

天才?

Nerd.

書呆子類

Nerds, nerds are you know, they are typically very much centered at being smart.

許多人都認為書呆一定很聰明

Geeks are kind of, they’re smart but they have social sense

奇客也很聰明 差在他們有社會意識

or they’re more socially aware maybe to a fault.

也許還太有社會意識了

Microsoft.

微軟

Geek.

奇客類

How did you know that? Because typically mac is the geek.

你怎麼知道? 通常麥金塔才被歸為奇客

Oh, actually I meant to say nerd.

啊! 本來要說書呆的

Well you’re wrong. Microsoft is on the line but he has it– it’s on the line- but he has it on the geek side

-錯了 微軟有在表上 不過… -總之是被歸在奇客類

But it’s on the line, so that’s in the overlap.

但它在交界線上 所以也算介於書呆和奇客之間

Vegetables

蔬菜

What? I…

啥?

Like I mean foodies I think, you can be a foodie geek.

如果指美食家的話 我想可能是有美食家奇客

So I would say geek.

我猜奇客

Vegetables are nerdy. I don’t know why.

-蔬菜屬於書呆類 -真搞不懂

Awkward. – There’s a grey area.

-笨手笨腳 -這有點模稜兩可

Awkward I would say more nerd. Definitely.

-我猜書呆子類 -沒錯

Zombies.

殭屍

Geek. Anything more pop culture-y I consider it being more geeky.

奇客 偏向流行文化的我都覺得屬於奇客範圍

Doctor Who.

異世奇人(註: 英國科幻電視劇)

Geek. Cuz it’s pop culture..

奇客類 那是流行文化的產物

Zelta.

薩爾達傳說(註: 奇幻電玩遊戲)

Still geek.

奇客

Nope, he got Zelda as nerd and he has The Hobbit as the nerd

錯了 製圖者把薩爾達傳說和哈比人都放在書呆子這邊

which, incidentally, we had the geek in our rap battle become Gandalf.

我們饒舌大賽裡的奇客最後卻變成甘道夫(註: 小說魔戒裡的人物)

Because, it’s so right on the line,

薩爾達居然在交界線上那麼偏右

Because we thought that you know, a guy who’s…

我們本來以為…

I don’t consider myself to be smart enough to be a nerd,

我不認為自己有聰明到能當書呆子

I respect nerds because they’re smart.

我敬重書呆子 因為他們腦筋很好

I’m just not smart enough. I can’t achieve nerdem

我就不夠聰明 無法達到書呆王的境界

and I’m a big fan of Lord of the Rings.

我是魔戒的大粉絲

So I think that, I mean, I don’t know if I’m a geek,

不知道這樣能不能算奇客

I’m just, you know, I’m just an everyday man. I’m out…

你懂的 我只是個平凡人

You’re a hipster.

你是文青

I think that the,

我想…

I think that the fact that there are some YouTube channels, we talked about this a little bit in our research too

現在YouTube上的一些頻道 我們研究時也討論過

that told this line, illustrates how much of a line this is.

說明了圖上分界線的準確程度

You’ve got Geek & Sundry, Felicia Day.

有Geek & Sundry和Felicia Day等等(註: 皆為YT宣傳頻道)

Which that makes sense, it’s like board games, pop culture type stuff that’s very much in geekdem.　

這樣一想還滿合理 圖版遊戲、流行文化之類的都跟奇客有關

But then you got the nerdist channel, which is Chris Hardwick.

不過也有克里斯˙哈威(註: 美國電視主持人)的Nerdist頻道

And when I think of Chris Hardwick, and the nerdist network,

但我想到他和那個頻道時

I think of geek stuff, I don’t think of nerd.

會聯想到奇客類的東西 反而沒有書呆子的印象

Cuz he’s a cool guy. – I think – The guy, he knows how to dress.

因為他很酷 -我是覺得… -他懂得如何穿著打扮

Still very much pop culture, I would say definitely nerdist is geek,

多數影片還是跟流行文化有關 我也覺得Nerdist算奇客

They should’ve been called geekist, not nerdist, but I think they call themselves nerdist

哈威之類的人應該要叫做奇客 而不是書呆子 但我認為他叫自己書呆子

because there were socially aware enough to know that if I called us nerdist,

是因為他們重視社會觀感

It’s so uncool it becomes cool again.

稱自己書呆子反而有理想效果

So, as a socially aware geek, I’m gonna call us nerdist because it’s a better title.

作為有社會意識的奇客 得說自己是書呆子 因為這稱呼更適合

which is why I think that your character clearly won the rap battle.

這也是我認為你在饒舌大賽中獲勝的原因

I think, and I’m totally comfortable admitting that.

我輸得心服口服

Well we collectively wrote the whole rap, it’s not like.. – Right!

-歌詞是我們一起完成的 又不是… -是沒錯

We only wrote our parts.

又不是各寫各的

But I’m comfortable with saying your character won because it’s so much easier to pull for the nerd,

我是說你的角色本來就占上風

And there’s so much irony in the nerd rapping versus the geek ..

書呆子還能大肆諷刺奇客

Cuz they own it. – Yeah.

-他們就有那些特色啊 -也是

A geek might tend to be so socially aware that it’s… you know it’s…

可能因為奇客比較有社會和人群的概念…

just kinda not being totally honest.

就更容易說點小謊什麼的

Now, here’s a nerd.

接下來是個書呆子

Hank Green. Hank Green is a bonified nerd.

漢克˙格林是超級書呆

And he knows it. - Yeah.

-他自己也曉得 -沒錯

He’s super smart, like legitimately smart about all the things that he speaks to.

他聰明絕頂 說出來的話都很有深度

It doesn’t just a guy that’s just really into things, it’s a guy who totally knows what he’s talks about it

不僅有顆狂熱的心 更下過一番功夫研究

and its appropriate the nerd fighters are the people who are fans of the bloggers, actual nerds.

這滿正常 書呆頭頭通常也愛看網路日誌

And, so we appreciate you guys sharing in the comments what are your thoughts.

我們感謝大家不吝指教

You know, this is an open ended discussion in a grey area.

書呆子和奇客的討論本就沒有正確答案

I know we may have entered a hornet’s nest with this one.

我們可能引起了一些批評和攻擊

But we don’t wanna turn anybody against us, we love nerds, we love geeks,

但並不想樹敵 書呆、奇客我們都喜歡

and if you like the song, we wanna make the instrumental version available.

如果觀眾喜歡那首歌 我們考慮做純音樂版本

We’re gonna do a contest, a little community building exercise, if you wanna take that,

我們要舉行一個競賽 和大家建立建立情誼

and do a cover of Epic Rap Battle: Nerd vs. Geek you can do that.

你可以翻唱「饒舌史上大對決: 書呆與奇客」

And you can share it, make a YouTube video but then share it with us on the Rhett Link Kommunity,

分享出來、上傳YouTube和「Rhett Link Kommunity」

We got a link down there in the description on how you can get to that.

詳細說明都在影片下方

And then your deadline is Sunday, October 27th.

截止日期是10月27日禮拜天

You make your cover video and the best one is going to win a mythical prize pack

我們會從各版本中挑出獲勝者 獎品是個禮袋

consisting of Mythical Show t-shirt, a Mythical Show signed poster

裡面有T恤、一張親筆簽名海報、

And an up to this point CD.

一張收錄我們所有歌曲的專輯

Our CD with 27 songs on it.

總共有27首

So take part in the instrumental Epic Rap Battle.- Don’t just do it for the prize though,

-請踴躍參加吧! -重點不是獎品

Do it to have some fun, you know? Fun it up over there in the Rhett Link Kommunity. .

是其中的樂趣 上「Rhett Link Kommunity」與我們同樂

You know what time it is.

約定時間你們知道的

This is Rob, and Thelia, and we’re coming at you from Saskatchewan, Canada.

我是羅伯 我是泰莉雅 我們是加拿大薩省人

And, it’s time to spin the wheel of mythicality.

旋轉「神話之輪」的時間又到啦

If you don’t want to participate in the community building exercise and you just wanna buy this stuff,

如果你不想參加翻唱活動 想直接購買的話

It’s all available over at rhettandlink,com/store

去rhettandlink,com/store就行囉

You’d appreciate that. – All of these are signed, or just participate in the contest and buy something.

-不錯吧 -東西上都有簽名 你也可以既參加活動又買商品

Let’s end this episode.

來收尾吧

Rhett is shrinking and Link is growing.

「瑞特變小 林克變大」

Oh that’s starting to feel kinda weird man.

畫面會很怪吧

What? What’s happening. My shoulders…

怎麼回事? 我的肩膀…

I’m getting taller, I’m getting bigger

我變高了 變更大隻了!!!

Look at me. I’m growing.

我正在快速成長

I’m not moving closer to the camera I’m just getting larger.

我絕對沒有往攝影機靠近

This is not an illusion this is really me getting larger.

你沒看錯 我真的越來越龐大啦

This is as small as I can get, if I got any smaller, I would disappear.

只能這麼小了 再小就要消失了

This is the noise I make when I’m getting larger.

我膨脹時就會發出這種噪音 啊～哇～

You still have the mic on? Can I spin the globe? - Sure

-麥克風還開著嗎? 我可以轉地球儀嗎? -當然可以

And wherever it lands, we will make a music video before we die, in the location it lands.

無論如何 我們都會在離開這世界前完成音樂影片的

Okay.

沒錯