Name: 打破界線的研究生院！卡內基美隆大學海因茲學院 x David Danenberg 經驗分享！ (A Graduate School Without Boundaries: Carnegie Mellon's Heinz College with David Danenberg)
Uploaded: 2026-01-12T17:45:28.000Z
Duration: 20 min 14 s

Welcome back to another episode of Breaking Boundaries, the world's premier podcast for international students.

歡迎回到 Breaking Boundaries，這是專為國際學生打造的頂尖 Podcast 節目。

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And I feel like if I say that often enough, it'll come true.

我感覺只要常常這麼說，它就會成真。

We are honored today to have our guest, David Dannenberg from Carnegie Mellon University.

今天非常榮幸能邀請到卡內基美隆大學的 David Dannenberg。

David is the Senior Associate Director of Admissions and Financial Aid at Carnegie Mellon with the Heinz College of Information Systems and Public Policy.

David 是卡內基美隆大學海因茲資訊系統與公共政策學院的招生與財務援助資深副主任。

David, thank you so much for joining us today.

David，非常謝謝你今天來參加我們的節目。

I really appreciate the opportunity to chat.

我真的很感謝有這個機會可以哈拉。

We had a chance to catch up not long ago in person.

So it's always good to reconnect with friends, new and old.

所以跟新舊朋友重新聯繫總是件好事。

Yes, international education is a small world, and

it's fun to reconnect with folks because we all have this general belief that the flow of students across borders confers knowledge and wisdom to everyone involved in the entire process, from domestic students to international students to professors and administrators at universities.

而且很高興能跟各位重新聯繫，因為我們都普遍相信，學生跨越國界的流動，能為整個過程中的所有人，從在地學生到國際學生，再到大學裡的教授和管理人員，都帶來知識和智慧。

David, I want to talk about Carnegie Mellon briefly, and

David，我想先簡單聊聊卡內基美隆大學，

then I really want to dive into your program because it's very unique.

然後我真的很想深入探討你的學程，因為它非常獨特。

所以，先跟我們說說卡內基美隆大學吧。

It has an amazing reputation in the US but fill us in on where it is and the types of student it serves.

它在美國有很棒的聲譽，但請告訴我們它在哪裡，以及它服務的學生類型。

So Carnegie Mellon University, 28th top university in the world according to Times Higher Education.

所以卡內基美隆大學，根據泰晤士高等教育，是全球排名第28的大學。

And so maybe you've heard of it, maybe you haven't, and that's okay if you haven't.

所以，也許你聽過，也許沒聽過，沒聽過也沒關係。

We are here for everybody, want to educate folks on what we have to offer, because we do have a lot to offer.

我們在這裡是為了大家，想讓大家瞭解我們提供的內容，因為我們真的有很多東西可以提供。

Carnegie Mellon is located in Pittsburgh.

Pittsburgh is in the state of Pennsylvania, strategically located.

匹茲堡在賓夕法尼亞州，地理位置很優越。

We're about seven hours drive to New York City, two hours to Cleveland, three hours to Washington D.C.

開車到紐約市大約七小時，到克里夫蘭兩小時，到華盛頓特區三小時。

so our location is really pivotal for what we're able to offer.

所以我們的地理位置對我們能提供的東西來說，真的很關鍵。

Even we're only two, what is it, maybe two and a half, three hours to Niagara Falls.

即使我們離尼加拉瀑布只有兩小時，呃，兩小時半，三小時。

Lots of great things to offer to our students.

有很多很棒的東西可以提供給我們的學生。

Now, Carnegie Mellon's this really interesting global research powerhouse.

現在，卡內基美隆大學是一所非常有趣的全球研究強校。

We're known for strengths in computer science, data technology, but

我們在電腦科學、資料科技方面很強，但

we're also known for the arts and for the sciences for social good.

我們在藝術和為社會公益而做的科學研究方面也很出名。

So this unique interdisciplinary university that has a lot to offer about 16,000 students, roughly 50, 50 when it comes to undergraduate and graduate.

所以這是一所獨特的跨學科大學，有大約 16,000 名學生，大學部和研究部大約各佔一半。

And there are seven colleges within the university.

You've got the College of Arts and Sciences, Right.

You have the College of Engineering, Computer Science.

I represent the Heinz College, which is the School of Public Policy, and

我代表海因茲學院，也就是公共政策學院，以及

the School of Information Systems, which happens to have a name.

資訊系統學院，剛好有個名字。

We are the Heinz College, named after Senator John Heinz, who Teresa Hines remains on Our board of directors, and

我們是海因茲學院，以參議員約翰·海因茲命名，他的妻子泰瑞莎·海因茲仍是我們的董事會成員，而且

we're really proud to continue and carry that name and his dedication to public service and public good, but

我們很自豪能延續這個名字和他對公共服務和社會公益的奉獻精神，但

bringing in all of these new kind of worldly technology skills that are needed in the public sector.

引進了許多公共領域所需的各種新興世界級科技技能。

And so here at the Heinz College, we have a variety of different programs.

在海因茲學院，我們有各式各樣的課程。

They're everything from public policy management to information systems and management, which are the title schools.

從公共政策管理到資訊系統與管理，這些都是掛名的學院。

We've got a cybersecurity program, information security.

我們有網路安全課程、資訊安全。

我們有醫療保健分析和相關課程。

We just recently rolled out an AI systems management program.

我們最近推出了人工智慧系統管理課程。

Can't come to Carnegie Mellon without saying the word AI on any given day.

來到卡內基美隆大學，每天都離不開人工智慧這個詞。

So we made it permanent here at Heinz College.

所以我們在海因茲學院將它永久保留。

And we also have arts programs, arts management, and even entertainment industry management.

我們也有藝術課程、藝術管理，甚至是娛樂產業管理。

So a lot of really cool types of programs that we're able to offer.

所以我們能提供很多非常酷的課程。

And really, while it sounds like this strange conglomerate, the idea is really to bring the disciplines together using data science, technology and evidence based decision making.

而且說真的，雖然聽起來像是個奇怪的大雜燴，但我們的想法其實是運用資料科學、科技和實證決策，將各個學科結合在一起。

We're teaching our students skills that are unique in management, unique in being able to use the data to tell a story and then really being able to apply it to your specific field.

我們教給學生的技能，在管理方面是獨一無二的，在運用數據說故事方面也是獨一無二的，然後真的能將這些技能應用到你特定的領域。

And our students have mandatory internships for all of their degrees, as well as capstone projects of working with clients to really get their hands dirty.

我們所有的學位都有強制性的實習，還有與客戶合作的畢業專題，讓學生能真正動手實踐。

And upon graduation, say, I know what it is, exactly what I'm doing.

畢業後，就能說「我知道這是什麼，我確切知道我在做什麼」。

And when I talk about these degrees to specify they're all master's degrees.

當我提到這些學位時，要特別說明它們都是碩士學位。

And that's one of the other things that sets Heinz College apart from any other college at the university is that we don't offer any bachelor's degrees.

這也是海因茲學院與大學裡其他學院不同的地方，我們不提供任何學士學位。

So 100% of our resources are for graduate students only.

所以我們百分之百的資源都只提供給研究所學生。

And so you get this really deep dive into a professional master's degree.

是以，你能深入體驗專業的碩士學位。

That's helpful because undergraduate and graduate programs, particularly in the US often have fundamentally different models.

這很有幫助，因為大學部和研究所的課程，尤其是在美國，通常有根本上不同的模式。

And to try to plug one into another is often a bit cumbersome.

試圖將兩者結合，往往會有點麻煩。

So it makes perfect sense that you exist to serve graduate students.

所以，你們只服務研究所學生，這完全說得通。

These programs, especially things like Applied Data Science, getting your hands dirty, that experiential component today is perceived by, rightly so, as a core to learning experience.

這些課程，特別是像應用資料科學這類課程，讓你親自動手，這種體驗式的學習，現在被認為是學習的核心，而且是理所當然的。

Tell us a little bit more about these internships.

可以多跟我們聊聊這些實習嗎？

What type of companies are students working for?

What type of work are they doing for these companies?

他們在這些公司裡做什麼樣的工作？

You have the advantage of Pittsburgh being a thriving tech hub.

匹茲堡是個蓬勃發展的科技中心，這對你們來說是一大優勢。

But I'll let you speak a little bit more about the types of internships students pursue.

但我還是想讓你多說一點關於學生們追求的實習類型。

Well, I think, you know, when you're looking at graduate school and you talk about Pittsburgh being where it's located.

嗯，我想，你知道，當你在考慮研究所時，你會談到匹茲堡的地理位置。

You don't choose a school based on its location because our students, when they do complete their internships, are completing them across the entire United States and even outside of the country as well.

你不會因為學校的地理位置而選擇學校，因為我們的學生，當他們完成實習時，他們的實習地點遍及全美國，甚至在國外。

So it's the relationships that you're able to build with employers.

所以，你能夠與僱主建立的關係是很重要的。

For us, as the university, we help to build those relationships, whether it's through our alumni networks or through our career services office.

對我們大學來說，我們會協助建立這些關係，無論是透過我們的校友網絡還是透過我們的職涯服務辦公室。

But we're really trying to provide you with these world class skills that you can then take and apply in the internships.

但我們真的在努力為你提供這些世界級的技能，讓你能夠運用在實習中。

And so our students are working with leading organizations.

所以我們的學生與頂尖的組織合作。

Your Amazons, your Deloitte's, your Booz Allen Hamiltons, you're looking at Netflix, you're looking at Kaiser Permanente, Rand, the US Government itself.

像是 Amazon、Deloitte、Booz Allen Hamilton，還有 Netflix、Kaiser Permanente、Rand，以及美國政府本身。

So you've got a huge wide range of different types of organizations that we partner with.

所以我們合作的組織類型非常廣泛。

And what I always like to say to students, our secret weapon as a college is our career services team.

而我總是喜歡跟學生說，我們學院的祕密武器就是我們的職涯服務團隊。

Because again, because of this uniqueness of our college where you have graduate studies only, we have a team of career professionals who it is their job, day in and day out, to make relationships with employers for our specific degree programs.

因為我們學院的獨特性，只有研究所，所以我們有一個職涯專業團隊，他們每天的工作就是為我們的特定學位課程與僱主建立關係。

And so you have one advisor to who is dedicated to each program, fostering the relationships with employers, being able to carry on those relationships with our alumni that they made when they were students.

所以每位學生都有專屬的職涯導師，他們會培養與僱主之間的關係，並延續與校友在他們就學時建立的連結。

And so oftentimes, internships and even job opportunities are coming to our career services center before they even end up on LinkedIn or before they end up on handshake.

是以，實習甚至工作機會常常會先送到我們的職涯服務中心，而不是出現在 LinkedIn 或 Handshake 上。

And so our students are being able to place themselves at a very high rate, sometimes even as early as a couple weeks into the semester, which we host career fairs one week into the semester.

所以我們的學生能夠有很高的就業率，有時候甚至在學期開始的幾週內就找到工作，因為我們在學期開始一週後就會舉辦職涯博覽會。

That would be remarkable to have your internship set up on day eight.

在開學第八天就安排好實習，這真的很厲害。

So that you can relax and think about everything else.

這樣你就可以放鬆，去思考其他事情了。

And speaking of everything else, on the academic side, you mentioned that there are programs like Applied Data Science, the new AI Systems Management.

說到其他事情，在學術方面，你提到了像是應用資料科學、新的人工智慧系統管理等課程。

I imagine there's a fair amount of overlap between some of these programs.

我想這些課程之間應該有相當多的重疊。

And I know that Heinz has a multidisciplinary approach.

而且我知道海因茲學院採取跨學科的教學方法。

So could you speak to a little bit about how you think of the multidisciplinary approach in the classroom?

所以您能不能稍微談談，您認為跨學科的教學方法在課堂上是如何體現的？

So with Heinz, again, you've got all of these programs, but

所以，在海因茲學院，你們有這麼多課程，

where they really come together is the core curriculum.

但它們真正結合的地方就在於核心課程。

And the core curriculum is focused on data technology and impact.

而核心課程著重於資料科技與影響力。

And really it's making sure that you understand the technological needs to be able to take all of the data that you're using and then apply it and make that impact in a day to day setting.

而且實際上，它能確保你瞭解技術需求，以便能夠運用你正在使用的所有資料，然後在日常生活中加以應用並產生影響。

And so our students are gaining skills regardless of degree, program and management.

所以我們的學生，無論就讀哪個學位、哪個課程或管理項目，都能獲得技能。

They're gaining skills in accounting and finance.

他們能獲得會計和財務方面的技能。

They are gaining skills in even negotiation.

他們甚至能獲得談判方面的技能。

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打破界線的研究生院！卡內基美隆大學海因茲學院 x David Danenberg 經驗分享！ (A Graduate School Without Boundaries: Carnegie Mellon's Heinz College with David Danenberg)

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