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I think the coordination and continuity of programs.

我認為程式的協調性和連續性。

There's not a pendulum going back and forth between administrations focusing on the access to capital, workforce training.

並非在各個政府部門之間來回擺盪，著重於資金取得、勞動力培訓。

程度副詞

We are woefully behind not just China, but

many of our, of our allies in terms of how we find that workforce.

在尋找勞動力這方面，也落後我們許多盟友。

So I won't rebuild that or re litigate that discussion.

所以我不會重建或重審這個討論。

Just only want to emphasize it as bipartisan.

This is something that should be be a high priority.

I do want to talk a little bit about some of the things telecommunications, cyberspace, AI quantum technologies.

我想稍微談談一些關於電信、網路空間、AI、量子科技的事情。

科羅拉多州在那裡有密集的生態系統。

And I think especially along with AI, quantum has.

我認為，特別是跟AI一起，量子科技有。

It's a field of intense competition between the United States and our rivals, our adversaries.

這是美國和我們的對手、敵人之間激烈競爭的領域。

So as our capabilities mature in quantum, in quantum sensing, quantum communication, computing, obviously, how can we ensure, how can you help ensure that our quantum technologies are only exported to trusted markets?

所以，隨著我們在量子、量子感測、量子通訊、量子運算方面的能力日趨成熟，我們該如何確保、你又該如何協助確保我們的量子技術只出口到值得信賴的市場呢？

Senator, I would say the Assistant Secretary for industry analysis.

參議員，我會說工業分析的助理部長。

That does not play an active role in export licensing policy.

那在出口許可政策上並沒有扮演積極的角色。

That's our colleagues at the Bureau of Industry and Security, or bis.

那是我們在工業暨安全局，也就是 BIS 的同事。

I will say that we have and will continue to gauge actively with industry to see where those markets exist and also understand the national security implications of those technologies where they're, where they rack and stack in terms of competitiveness with international competitors.

我會說，我們過去和未來都會積極與業界接觸，瞭解這些市場在哪裡，同時也理解這些技術在與國際競爭者相比時，在國家安全上的意涵。

we could provide that information to the Bureau of Industry Security as they're making their licensing decisions, but

我們可以將這些資訊提供給工業暨安全局，作為他們做出授權決定的參考，但是

we don't actively, are not actively involved in any export licensing policies or decisions.

我們並沒有積極參與任何出口授權政策或決策。

I think we've got a lot of work to do on there.

我認為我們在這方面還有很多工作要做。

艾薩克曼先生，我們有著相同的跨黨派目標，那就是美國應該專注於讓美國太空人重返月球，並開創太空探索的新領域。

Isaacman, we share the same bipartisan goal that the United States should be laser focused on returning American astronauts to moon, reaching the next frontiers in space exploration.

我想我仍然是參議院裡少數真正發表過同行評審論文的科學家。

I think I'm still the only scientist in the Senate who's actually provided peer review papers.

Back in May you answered some of our written questions.

五月的時候，您回答了一些我們書面提出的問題。

So I repeat it that you want NASA to be a force multiplier for science, which I think is essential.

所以我再說一次，您希望 NASA 成為科學的倍增器，我認為這非常重要。

Launching more missions, more telescopes, more probes, more rovers.

發射更多任務、更多望遠鏡、更多探測器、更多探測車。

You also said that you can be expected to be a passionate advocate for science.

您也說過，大家可以期待您成為科學的熱情倡導者。

You know all of NASA's science and exploration missions, including both planetary and earth sciences.

您知道 NASA 所有科學和探索任務，包括行星科學和地球科學。

Prioritizing these efforts is not about choosing one over the other, but

優先處理這些事務並不是要選擇這個或那個，而是

rather identifying where the greatest breakthroughs are possible.

找出在哪裡可能會有最重大的突破。

Certainly now you're dealing with a budget issue that's fairly dramatic.

當然，您現在正處理一個相當嚴重的預算問題。

所以我想了解您是如何平衡這一切的。

Can you confirm where you believe NASA's scientific and exploration missions.

您能確認一下，您認為 NASA 的科學和探索任務。

I mean, are they complementary or do they end up becoming, because of budget issues, mutually exclusive?

我的意思是，它們是互補的，還是因為預算問題，它們最終會變成互相排斥？

Well, Senator, first, I think the scientific side of NASA is just as important as human exploration, as is our work in aeronautics and technology development.

參議員，首先，我認為 NASA 的科學方面和載人探索一樣重要，我們的航空和技術開發工作也是如此。

I think that, as I mentioned to some of the other senators, I understand earlier this year we had a presidential budget request.

我認為，正如我之前對其他幾位參議員提到的，我理解今年稍早我們有總統的預算請求。

Of course, I do absolutely support the President in the goal of reducing the deficit and ensuring the nation's on good footing.

當然，我完全支持總統削減赤字並確保國家穩健的目標。

But that said, a lot has changed since then.

但話雖如此，從那時起，情況發生了很多變化。

this is something that if I am confirmed, I'd love to get my arms around because we have been on a continuing resolution.

如果我獲確認，我很想深入瞭解這件事，因為我們一直處於持續決議的狀態。

I mean, earlier this year I understood that perhaps even the Nancy Grace Roman telescope might launch under initial budget requests.

我的意思是，今年稍早我聽說，甚至連 Nancy Grace Roman 望遠鏡可能都會在最初的預算請求下發射。

I've since been informed that is no longer the case.

之後我被告知情況已不再是這樣。

So simply put, Senator, I'd love to know where we stand today, but

所以簡單來說，參議員，我很想知道我們今天的立場，

as I've told other senators, you know, in terms of dollars allocated from Congress, we will absolutely maximize the scientific value of every one of them.

但正如我告訴過其他參議員的，你知道，就國會撥款的金額而言，我們絕對會最大化它們的科學價值。

And the Nancy Grace Roman Telescope is a good example.

而 Nancy Grace Roman Telescope 就是一個很好的例子。

Is Goddard Space Flight center in a similar position in terms I know that there's looking at certain potentially draconian changes to their budget.

Goddard太空飛行中心在預算方面是否處於類似的狀況，我知道他們正在考慮對預算進行一些嚴厲的變動。

I mean, Senator, I'm nothing more than I would.

我的意思是，參議員，我不過是...

I mean, I would read the same things that other people do.

我的意思是，我會閱讀和別人一樣的東西。

I think Goddard is very important to spearheading the scientific efforts of NASA.

我認為 Goddard 在領導 NASA 的科學研究方面非常重要。

I appreciate that and I do recognize the difficult choices that tight budgets create for all of you and appreciate that I'm out of time, even though now I'm left to be the chair.

我明白，我也知道緊縮的預算會讓各位面臨艱難的抉擇，而且我也知道時間差不多了，雖然現在輪到我來當主席了。

I think I have, I think the, the compulsion is that I must not, I have to curtail my questions.

我想我必須，我必須約束我的提問。

But I have a couple more questions I'm going to submit in writing to you guys.

但我還有幾個問題，我會用書面的方式提交給各位。

And again, I appreciate both of your willingness to serve the country in these roles.

再次感謝兩位願意在這些職位上為國家服務。

所以，Isopia 先生和 Haynes 先生，

Haynes, my last question, which I am not just allowed, but

我最後一個問題，這不只是我被允許，而是

required to ask of all nominees, if confirmed, you pledged to work collaboratively with this committee to provide thorough and timely responses to this committee's requests and to appear before not just China, but

被要求問所有被提名人，如果獲準，您是否承諾會與本委員會合作，對本委員會的要求提供詳盡且及時的回應，並且不僅是中國，還有

我們許多盟友，在我們如何找到勞動力方面。

So I won't rebuild that or re litigate that.

所以我不會重提或爭論那件事。

That discussion just only want to emphasize it is bipartisan.

那個討論我只想強調，它是跨黨派的。

This is something that should be a high priority.

I do want to talk a little bit about some of the things, telecommunications, cyberspace, AI Quantum technologies.

我想稍微談談一些事情，像是電信、網路空間、AI、量子科技。

科羅拉多州在那裡有很豐富的生態系。

And I Think especially along with AI, Quantum has.

我認為特別是隨著 AI，量子也一樣。

所以隨著我們在量子、量子感測、量子通訊、運算方面的能力成熟，我們該如何確保，您要如何協助確保我們的量子科技只出口到值得信賴的市場？

I would say the Assistant Secretary for Industry Analysis does not play an active role in export licensing policy.

我會說產業分析助理祕書長在出口許可政策上沒有積極的角色。

That's our colleagues at the Bureau of Industry and Security or bis.

那是我們工業與安全局（BIS）的同事。

I will say that we have and will continue to gauge actively with industry to see where those markets exist and also understand the national security implications of those technologies where they're where they rack and stack in terms of competitiveness with international competitors.

我會說我們已經並將持續積極與業界溝通，瞭解這些市場在哪裡，同時也理解這些技術在與國際競爭者競爭中的國家安全意涵。

And we could provide that information with, to the Bureau of Industry Security as they're making their licensing decisions, but

我們可以將這些資訊提供給工業與安全局，供他們在做許可決定時參考，但

我們沒有積極參與任何出口許可政策或決定。

We share the same bipartisan goal that the United States should be laser focused on returning American astronauts to the moon, reaching the next frontiers in space exploration.

我們有著相同的跨黨派目標，那就是美國應該全力專注於讓美國太空人重返月球，並開創太空探索的新紀元。

我想我仍然是參議院裡唯一發表過同行評審論文的科學家。

在五月的時候，您回答了一些我們書面的問題。

So I repeat it that you want NASA to be a force multiple multiplier for science, which I think is essential.

You also said that you can, you can be expected to be a passionate advocate for science.

您也說過，您可以，可以預期您會成為科學的熱情倡導者。

優先處理這些事務並不是要選擇其中之一，而是

找出最有可能取得重大突破的地方。

當然，您現在正在處理一個相當嚴重的預算問題。

所以我想看看您是如何平衡的。