Name: 斯特蘭·史卡斯嘉談《不設防的價值》、他的「靠爸族」標籤，以及為何他不再參與《沙丘》！ (Stellan Skarsgård on ‘Sentimental Value,’ His “Nepo Daddy” Label & Why He is Done with ‘Dune’)
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My father is a really good director, but he's a very difficult person.

我爸爸是個很棒的導演，但他個性很難搞。

Stellan, welcome to the awards tour podcast.

Stellan，歡迎來到頒獎巡迴Podcast。

I'm so excited to speak to you right now because we're going to talk about your incredible performance and sentimental value.

我現在非常興奮能跟你哈拉，因為我們要聊聊你令人驚豔的表演和情感價值。

But it's a great year for you in general because you also released a Andor this year.

不過對你來說，今年整體來說是很棒的一年，因為你今年也推出了 Andor。

It's kind of been, I think, a pretty great year for the Skarsgrd crew in general.

我想，對 Skarsgrd 家族來說，今年整體來說是很不錯的一年。

But you've definitely been leading the charge.

And Alexander is out with Pillion now, and Gus Van Sant's latest film has Bill in it, so.

And Alexander 現在和 Pillion 一起，Gus Van Sant 的最新電影有 Bill，所以。

I know, but talk about this year for you and how satisfying it's been to have these two.

我知道，但聊聊你今年有多麼令人滿意，能有這兩部作品。

I mean, Andor is something that you've worked several years, but

我是說，Andor 是你花了幾年時間的作品，但

then I think with Sentimental Value, this is a film that really precious to you, what you've been able to do with it.

然後我覺得 Sentimental Value 這部電影對你來說非常珍貴，你對它付出了很多。

I mean, I really like that too, because it's such a.

我是說，我也真的很喜歡，因為它實在是。

Such a wonderful writing, and it was sort of a profound production.

精彩的劇本，而且製作也很深刻。

It expanded the Star wars universe in a way.

它以一種方式擴展了星際大戰宇宙。

That's one of the best roles I've ever had, and

it was written specifically for me, which tailor made.

So it's like wearing a very comfortable suit.

感覺就像穿上一套非常合身的西裝。

I would have to ask you, what is that like when you get a call from Joachim and you know, he's an incredible director and.

我必須問你， Joachim 打電話給你時是什麼感覺？你知道，他是一位很棒的導演。

But there's some bit of pressure when somebody's like, I made this for you.

但當有人說「我為你量身打造這個」時，還是會有那麼一點壓力。

How did you feel after that conversation?

I mean, there's so much pressure anyway, so.

我的意思是，本來就有很多壓力了，所以。

And also that you know that if it's written for you, it's more flexible because they can change it for you and they can really tailor make it for you.

而且你也知道，如果劇本是為你量身訂做的，它就更有彈性，因為他們可以為你修改，而且他們真的可以為你量身訂做。

He lets us decide and portray the character as we want once we're there.

一旦我們在那裡，他讓我們決定並以我們想要的方式詮釋角色。

One of the things I loved in the few conversations I've been having with Renate and Inga and some of the other folks involved in the film is how much y' all very much did not want the whole moment to stop.

我跟 Renate、Inga 以及電影裡其他一些參與者聊過幾次，其中我最喜歡的一點是，你們非常不想讓整個時刻停下來。

And I've seen this great picture that Renate posted of you on the final day of set, which I know that y' all filmed.

我看到 Renate 貼了一張你們在殺青最後一天的很棒的照片，我知道你們拍了。

Also one of the more climactic scenes of the movie.

也是電影裡比較高潮的幾場戲之一。

When you did that, take us into that last day and what that was like for you, first of all, wrapping up this incredible project.

當你這麼做的時候，先跟我們說說最後一天是什麼樣的感覺，尤其是結束這個令人驚豔的計畫。

But also that scene which is such a great sort of bookend of the movie.

但也包括那場戲，它就像是電影很棒的收尾。

And I've been wary, nervous about that shot all the time.

我一直對那個鏡頭很謹慎、很緊張。

It's just two people looking at each other.

And it can turn into very sappy and very sentimental ending.

不然可能會變成非常矯情、非常感傷的結局。

The problems are not solved, but there is hope.

There's hope of reconciliation, and there's hope of forgiveness.

有和解的希望，也有寬恕的希望。

And that's the happiest thing you can hope for in anything in life.

這也是人生中你最能期盼的幸福。

But since we shot it the last thing in the.

但因為我們是最後才拍那個鏡頭。

We were sort of mentally prepared for it anyway.

我們反正也已經在心理上準備好了。

So we just did five takes of it or something.

所以我們就拍了五次還是多少。

There's long gazes between me and Renata there and there.

我和 Renata 之間有很長的對視。

There's this whole story being told while we're without words.

我們在沒有說話的情況下，整個故事都在被講述。

這就是你作為演員所夢寐以求的。

I mean, you also dream of it as a moviegoer.

我是說，你作為影迷也會夢寐以求。

I saw the film at Cannes, and I just kept thinking.

我在坎城看了這部電影，我一直想著。

I was like, just when there's a great scene between you and Renate or Inga, then there's another great scene with you with Elle.

我心想，當你和 Renate 或 Inga 有精彩的對手戲時，接著你和 Elle 又有另一場精彩的戲。

And I feel like just the scene partners you had in this.

我覺得你這次的對手戲演員們。

Every time you were with someone, everybody was at the top of their game.

每次你跟別人對戲時，大家都表現得淋漓盡致。

And I'd love for you to talk about With Elle, which I think is such a mad scene, too, because it's like.

我很想聽你聊聊跟 Elle 的對手戲，我覺得那場戲也很瘋狂，因為它就像是。

It's this moment that maybe you've celebrated a movie like that at Cannes or one of these film festivals.

這是一個你可能會在坎城或某個影展上慶祝過的電影時刻。

But you're having this very, I think, real conversation with.

但你卻有著一段非常，我覺得，真實的對話。

I'd love for you to talk a little bit about that and filming it.

我很想聽你聊聊這部分，還有拍攝的過程。

Because y' all filmed it at the Deauville Film Festival, right?

因為你們是在 Deauville 影展拍攝的，對吧？

I mean, we did a lot of scenes there, actually.

其實我們在那裡拍了很多場景。

It was much, much bigger, expanded than it was in the film.

它比電影裡面的還要大很多、擴展很多。

Not because it was bad, because he'd already said everything that was needed.

不是因為它不好，而是因為他已經說了所有需要說的。

I mean, we hadn't worked together before.

我是說，我們以前沒有合作過。

We're both child actors, so we know the business in that sense from the bottom and up.

我們都是童星出身，所以我們從頭到尾都很瞭解這個行業。

But meeting her, and she immediately understood what the scene was about.

但遇見她之後，她立刻就明白了那場戲的意義。

And we did have fun, except the wind and the cold, because it's not warm at Deauville in the.

我們也玩得很開心，除了風大又冷，因為在 Deauville 的時候天氣並不暖和。

And I know there's, like, a blanket and a heater, like, two feet outside.

我知道外面有毯子和暖爐，大概兩英尺遠。

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