Name: 以色列為何沒有進行任何外交嘗試？| DW新聞 (Why has Israel not made any diplomatic attempts? | DW News)
Uploaded: 2025-07-17T08:30:24.000Z
Duration: 27 min 49 s

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Syria's health ministry says one person was killed and 18 injured after Israel increased airstrikes in apparent support of Syria's Druze community.

敘利亞衛生部稱，在以色列加強空襲以明顯支持敘利亞德魯茲社區之後，有一人死亡，18 人受傷。

In Suwayda in Syria's south, Druze leaders are divided over a ceasefire deal with the Syrian government which is aimed at ending days of clashes that threaten to unravel the country's post-war transition.

在敘利亞南部的蘇韋達（Suwayda），德魯茲領導人對與敘利亞政府達成的停火協議意見不一，該協議旨在結束連日來的衝突，而這些衝突有可能破壞敘利亞的戰後過渡。

Syrian government forces engage in gunfights with Druze militias.

敘利亞政府軍與德魯茲民兵交火。

The troops had been sent here to quell the unrest that has been going on for days between the Druze religious minority and Bedouin tribes.

這些部隊是被派來平息德魯茲少數民族和貝都因部落之間持續多日的騷亂的。

But their presence only seems to be adding fuel to the fire.

但他們的出現似乎只是火上澆油。

The death toll on both sides keeps climbing.

Meanwhile Israel, which sees the Druze community as an ally, has resumed strikes on Syrian troops in the area.

與此同時，視德魯茲社區為盟友的以色列恢復了對該地區敘利亞軍隊的打擊。

Our interests in Syria are known, are limited and clear.

我們在敘利亞的利益是眾所周知的，是有限而明確的。

First of all, to maintain the status quo in the region of southern Syria, which is also close to our border, and to prevent the development of threats towards Israel in this area.

首先，維持敘利亞南部地區的現狀，該地區也靠近我國邊界，並防止在這一地區出現對以色列的威脅。

The second thing is to prevent harm to the Druze community.

第二件事是防止對德魯茲社區造成傷害。

In a show of force, Israel's army also targeted the Syrian army headquarters in Damascus.

為了顯示武力，以色列軍隊還襲擊了位於大馬士革的敘利亞陸軍總部。

Syria's defence ministry asked the capital's residents to stay indoors.

敘利亞國防部要求首都居民留在室內。

Chaotic scenes too at the buffer zone in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.

以色列佔領的戈蘭高地緩衝區也出現了混亂場面。

Druze from the Israeli-controlled area breached the border fence, apparently to join the fight in support of their fellow Druze in Sueda.

來自以色列控制區的德魯茲教徒衝破邊境圍欄，顯然是為了加入戰鬥，支持他們在蘇達的德魯茲同胞。

Israel's Prime Minister urged them to turn around.

You can be murdered, you can be kidnapped, and you are harming the efforts of the IDF.

你可能被謀殺，你可能被綁架，而你正在損害以色列國防軍的努力。

Therefore, I ask you, return to your homes, let the IDF operate.

是以，我請求你們返回家園，讓以色列國防軍開展行動。

Sueda, the Golan Heights and now Damascus, all are dealing with the consequences of violent clashes which threaten to escalate into a conflict affecting the whole region.

蘇伊達、戈蘭高地和現在的大馬士革，都在應對暴力衝突的後果，這些衝突有可能升級為影響整個地區的衝突。

Let's explore this with Aylan Levy, he's a former Israeli government spokesperson.

讓我們和以色列政府前發言人艾蘭-利維（Aylan Levy）一起來探討這個問題。

Just explain to us how you think bombing Syria's capital keeps the Druze minority safe.

請向我們解釋一下，你認為轟炸敘利亞首都如何保證德魯茲少數民族的安全。

Everyone is staging a humanitarian intervention now to protect the Druze minority of Syria.

現在所有人都在進行人道主義干預，以保護敘利亞的德魯茲少數民族。

Israelis, Druze and Jews alike have been horrified to see the images of elderly men having their moustaches shaved off, other atrocities, and that's why Israel has done two things.

以色列人、德魯茲教徒和猶太人看到老人被剃掉鬍子的畫面以及其他暴行，都感到非常震驚，是以以色列做了兩件事。

One, attack Syrian troops that have been trying to enter Sueda, but two, attacking the General Staff Building in Damascus, which was used to launch those troops towards Sueda and send a very clear message to the regime, Druze civilians must be protected.

其一，攻擊試圖進入蘇埃達的敘利亞部隊；其二，攻擊大馬士革的總參謀部大樓，因為該大樓被用來將這些部隊開往蘇埃達，並向敘利亞政權發出一個非常明確的資訊：德魯茲平民必須受到保護。

As far as we outside the country, the region, are concerned, what appears to have happened is there's been a long-standing beef, if I can put it that way, long-standing rivalries between Druze and Bedouin clans in that region.

就我們國外和該地區而言，似乎已經發生的事情是，該地區的德魯茲和貝都因部族之間存在著長期的爭鬥，如果我可以這麼說的話。

The Syrian government intervened to try and keep the peace and then Israel bombed them.

敘利亞政府進行了干預，試圖維持和平，然後以色列轟炸了他們。

Just explain to us how that works and why Israel didn't go through the diplomatic channels first to say to Syria, we're concerned about what's happening in the south of your country.

請向我們解釋一下這是怎麼回事，為什麼以色列不先通過外交管道對敘利亞說，我們對你們國家南部發生的事情感到擔憂。

That is not what human rights observers on the ground are reporting.

實地人權觀察員的報告並非如此。

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is reporting at least 21 extrajudicial executions in Sueda by regime forces or forces loyal to the regime, and Israel looks at Sueda and says we cannot allow a fellow religious minority to be persecuted by Islamist forces.

敘利亞人權觀察組織報告說，在蘇埃達至少有21起法外處決事件是由政權部隊或忠於政權的部隊所為，而以色列看著蘇埃達說，我們不能允許一個宗教少數同胞受到伊斯蘭勢力的迫害。

But remember who the Syrian government is now.

但請記住，敘利亞政府現在是誰。

Israel sees these terrible things happening in the south of Syria.

以色列看到敘利亞南部發生了這些可怕的事情。

Why doesn't Israel say to Syria, this is a terrible thing, you need to sort this out?

以色列為什麼不對敘利亞說：這是一件可怕的事情，你需要解決這個問題？

How does Israel take it upon itself to just start bombing?

以色列是如何主動開始轟炸的？

Because Israel is physically stopping the al-Qaeda, formerly al-Qaeda-led government of Syria from attacking a religious minority.

因為以色列正在實際阻止基地組織（前基地組織上司的敘利亞政府）攻擊一個宗教少數群體。

No, no, no, because I'd like, there's quite a lot I'd like to get through.

不，不，不，因為我想，我還有很多事情要做。

I just want to get to the point of why the diplomatic angle was skipped over.

我只想說說為什麼跳過了外交角度。

Well, Israel does not have diplomatic relations with Syria because Syria does not recognize the state of Israel.

以色列與敘利亞沒有外交關係，因為敘利亞不承認以色列國。

Israel hopes that Syria will want to establish diplomatic relations, just as we seem to be on the cusp of relations with Saudi Arabia and possibly with Lebanon.

以色列希望敘利亞願意建立外交關係，就像我們似乎即將與沙特阿拉伯建立關係，並可能與黎巴嫩建立關係一樣。

If the October 7th war ends with an outbreak of peace and normalization in the region, that will be a positive development.

如果 10 月 7 日的戰爭以該地區爆發和平和正常化而結束，那將是一個積極的發展。

But obviously that's not going to come at the expense of persecuted minorities in the Middle East.  What then do you think the Syrian government would have to do for Israel to stop bombing Syria?

但這顯然不能以犧牲中東受迫害的少數民族為代價。  那麼你認為敘利亞政府必須怎麼做，以色列才會停止轟炸敘利亞？

Israel wants the border region to be demilitarized.

以色列希望邊境地區非軍事化。

The lesson that Israel drew from the October 7th attacks by Hamas is that we cannot afford to have hostile forces amassing on our border and hope for the best.

以色列從哈馬斯 10 月 7 日的襲擊中吸取的教訓是，我們不能讓敵對勢力在我們的邊境集結，並寄希望於最好的結果。

Israel looks at the Syrian regime with suspicion.

以色列對敘利亞政權充滿懷疑。

Let's remember that the president, Ahmad al-Shara, was on the American most wanted list until he trimmed his beard, put on a suit and became the president of Syria.

讓我們記住，總統艾哈邁德-沙拉在修剪鬍鬚、穿上西裝併成為敘利亞總統之前，一直在美國的通緝名單上。

He was previously the leader of HTS and Al-Qaeda offshoot.

他曾是 HTS 和基地組織分支的領導人。

So Israel hopes that this is a leopard that has changed its spots, but fears that he is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

是以，以色列希望這是一隻變了色的豹子，但又擔心他是一隻披著羊皮的狼。

There are behind the scenes talks between Israel and Syrian officials towards normalization.

以色列和敘利亞官員正在為實現關係正常化進行幕後談判。

And if Syria makes the brave decision to support peace with Israel, Israel will of course welcome that.

如果敘利亞勇敢地決定支持與以色列和平相處，以色列當然會表示歡迎。

Israel's attacks on Syria risk undermining ceasefires that have been established, weakening the authority of the central government and fueling regional tensions, destabilizing a that's already grappling with internal power divisions and post-Assad problems.

以色列對敘利亞的襲擊有可能破壞已經建立的停火協議，削弱中央政府的權威，加劇地區緊張局勢，從而破壞敘利亞的穩定。

Is the destabilization of Syria in Israel's interests?

破壞敘利亞的穩定符合以色列的利益嗎？

Israel's interest is to have a peaceful Syria that respects its minorities and wants to make peace with Israel.

以色列的利益在於擁有一個尊重少數民族並希望與以色列和平相處的和平的敘利亞。

That is why there are talks happening behind the scenes to establish normalization with the Syrian government.

這就是為什麼要在幕後舉行會談，與敘利亞政府實現關係正常化。

The new regime, even though Israel views it with distrust, has been beneficial in many ways because it has taken Syria out of the Iranian axis, blocked the smuggling route from Iran to Hezbollah.

儘管以色列對新政權持不信任態度，但新政權在許多方面都是有益的，因為它使敘利亞脫離了伊朗軸心，阻斷了從伊朗到真主黨的走私路線。

And Israel wants the Syrian regime to be able to have enough control of its territory that it can stop the Iranian axis rearming its proxy forces in the region.

以色列希望敘利亞政權能夠對其領土擁有足夠的控制權，從而阻止伊朗軸心重新武裝其在該地區的代理人部隊。

But the Israeli government is under intense domestic pressure, not from the far right or from settlers, but from Druze in Israel.

但以色列政府正面臨著巨大的國內壓力，這種壓力不是來自極右翼或定居者，而是來自以色列的德魯茲教徒。

We're running out of time and I want to get this just on that point, on the internal pressure within Israel.

我們的時間不多了，我想就這一點談談以色列內部的壓力。

As we came on air, it was announced that another ultra-orthodox party is talking about quitting the government, leaving Benjamin Netanyahu without a parliamentary majority after another one quit yesterday.

就在我們播出節目的同時，有消息稱另一個極端正統派政黨正在討論退出政府，這使得本雅明-內塔尼亞胡繼昨天又有一個政黨退出之後，又失去了一個議會多數黨。

Do you see that changed political landscape having any effect on Israel's actions in Syria or indeed in Gaza?

您認為政治格局的變化會對以色列在敘利亞或加沙的行動產生影響嗎？

Benjamin Netanyahu, if these parties leave the government, will end up becoming a minority government.

如果這些政黨離開政府，本雅明-內塔尼亞胡最終將成為少數派政府。

Elections will have to be held by autumn of next year and their departure from the government obviously brings forward the risk of early elections.

選舉必須在明年秋天之前舉行，而他們離開政府顯然會帶來提前選舉的風險。

What the Israeli government is doing now, its stated policy, is to pursue a temporary ceasefire in Gaza, hoping to get half of the hostages out and hoping that that will allow for diplomatic talks to get an end of the war that will see Hamas relinquish power and allow the region to turn a new leaf.

以色列政府現在的既定政策是在加沙實行臨時停火，希望能救出一半人質，並希望通過外交談判結束戰爭，讓哈馬斯放棄權力，讓該地區翻開新的一頁。

And these parties have said they will support a hostage deal even from the opposition.

而這些政黨表示，即使是反對黨也會支持人質協議。

Thanks for joining us, our former Israeli government spokesman, Alon Levy.

感謝我們的前以色列政府發言人阿隆-列維。

Let's pick through this with Zedoun Al-Zoubi, who is a Syrian governance and peace-building expert.

讓我們與敘利亞治理與和平建設專家澤敦-祖比（Zedoun Al-Zoubi）一起探討一下這個問題。

Long-standing grievances between Druze factions and Bedouin tribes erupted into open violence in May of this year.

德魯茲教派和貝都因部落之間的長期積怨在今年 5 月爆發了公開暴力事件。

To be very, very frank with you, the Bedouin tribes and forces actually installed one checkpoint that kept really humiliating the Druze community and at one point of time this exploded.

老實說，貝都因部落和貝都因部隊實際上設置了一個檢查站，不斷羞辱德魯茲社區，一度造成爆炸。

The government was supposedly to go in and to separate the two sides, unfortunately it escalated into more violence between the government and the Druze factions.

按理說，政府應該介入並將雙方分開，但不幸的是，政府和德魯茲派別之間的暴力衝突愈演愈烈。

I don't think things are now manageable or containable.

我不認為現在的情況是可以控制或遏制的。

There are many reports of massive human rights violations inside the city and unfortunately we don't see the sound of reason from any of the sides to try to at least let the civil defence to go in and save the civilians.

有許多關於城內發生大規模侵犯人權事件的報道，遺憾的是，我們看不到任何一方有理由至少讓民防部隊進入城內拯救平民。

OK, so that's really interesting because that has been the charge that the Syrian government deployed troops to Suwayda and those government forces or factions loyal to the government then turned, took sides and attacked the Druze militias.

好吧，這真的很有趣，因為這一直是敘利亞政府在蘇韋達部署軍隊的指控，而那些政府軍或忠於政府的派別隨後轉向，站在一邊，攻擊德魯茲民兵。

Well, from my point of view, this cannot be seen from the moment of yesterday or the day before yesterday.

嗯，從我的角度來看，這不能從昨天或前天的那一刻來看。

There has been many, many negotiations taking place between the government and the Druze and the three clerics that actually govern the city somehow.

政府和德魯茲教派以及以某種方式實際管理這座城市的三位教士之間進行了許許多多的談判。

There was some need for the state institutions to go inside the city and so that unified the country, if you like.

國家機構有必要進入城市，這樣才能統一國家。

There was a lot of hesitance inside the cleric leadership, especially with Hajeri.

教士領導層內部，尤其是哈傑裡，有很多猶豫。

And then at many point of time, there was an agreement and then this agreement actually collapsed.

然後，在許多時間點上，達成了一項協議，但後來這項協議實際上破裂了。

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