Name: 專訪邁克和切斯特 [Guitar Center 2014］ (Interview with Mike and Chester [Guitar Center 2014])
Uploaded: 2025-05-27T03:14:56.000Z
Duration: 28 min 7 s

I'm Nick Harker and we're here with Chester and Mike from Lincoln Park and we're at the

我是尼克-哈克，我們和來自林肯公園的切斯特和邁克在一起。

Wilton which is a little bit of a different venue for us.

威爾頓對我們來說是一個與眾不同的地方。

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Thank you for coming and playing in this great place.

感謝你們來到這個偉大的地方遊玩。

I mean, this is a band with a 15 year history, six albums, five number ones, Grammys, biggest band on Facebook.

我的意思是，這是一支擁有 15 年曆史的樂隊，出過六張專輯，五次奪得冠軍，獲得過格萊美獎，是 Facebook 上最紅的樂隊。

What do you think it is about Lincoln Park's music and your career to date that keeps you so relevant and on top of things?

您認為林肯公園的音樂和您迄今為止的職業生涯中，是什麼讓您始終保持著與時俱進的精神？

You know, I think that we've always had a really great understanding of what it is we want to accomplish and each of us as individuals in the band, we want to do what's best for the song and we want to participate in the way that's going to make the song the best it can possibly be.

你知道，我認為我們一直都非常清楚我們想要實現的目標，作為樂隊中的每一個人，我們都想做對歌曲最有利的事情，我們都想參與到歌曲的製作過程中，讓歌曲做到最好。

And by doing that, I think we've learned over time to know how to control, you know, our egos and also, you know, be able to control wanting to take over a song individually, you know, with whoever's talents may want to shine.

通過這樣做，我認為隨著時間的推移，我們已經學會了如何控制自我，你知道的，我們的自我，同時，你知道的，能夠控制想要單獨接管一首歌曲的想法，你知道的，誰的才華可能會想大放異彩。

And I think that that's something that's helped keep us consistent.

我認為這有助於我們保持一致。

And also, I think it's kept a lot of our music a little more timeless and less kind of time specific or, you know, era specific.

此外，我認為這也讓我們的很多音樂更加永恆，少了一些特定時間或特定時代的感覺。

Can I ask each of you individually to explain the influence and power of music in your lives?

我能請你們每個人單獨解釋一下音樂在你們生活中的影響和力量嗎？

I was thinking the other day about like driving in a car.

前幾天我在想，就像開車一樣。

We used to take these long trips with my parents and my brother.

我們經常和父母、哥哥一起長途旅行。

We'd drive up into the we lived in L.A. and we would go a couple times a year up to the mountains was like a was like a seven hour drive up to the cabin.

我們住在洛杉磯，每年都會開車去山裡幾次，開車去小木屋要七個小時。

We usually went to and I just have my, you know, I basically have my headphones on the entire time.

我們通常會去，我只是戴著耳機，你知道，我基本上一直戴著耳機。

And I have a hard time like remembering what it was that I was even like thinking about or or or I knew I kind of know what I was listening to.

我很難回憶起我當時在想什麼，或者我知道我在聽什麼。

But it was you know, I was always just completely immersed in the music and what I was was listening to.

但你知道，我總是完全沉浸在音樂和我所聽的音樂中。

And I grew up playing piano since I was like three.

And my family, my my mom and dad weren't particularly musical.

而我的家人，我的父母都不太喜歡音樂。

They just really, you know, thought it was something that they wanted me to to have.

他們只是真的，你知道，認為這是他們希望我擁有的東西。

And then at a certain point, they knew that I was really into it.

後來到了一定程度，他們知道我真的喜歡上它了。

Not so much the classical as just like, you know, being able to express myself.

與其說是古典音樂，不如說是能夠表達自己。

Yeah, I remember being fairly young in my we were playing my brother and my sisters were in the car.

是的，我記得當時我還很小，我們在玩耍，我的哥哥和姐姐們都在車裡。

We were playing a game where we were deciding on, you know, telling everyone what we were going to be when we grew up.

我們在玩一個遊戲，我們決定，你知道，告訴大家我們長大後要做什麼。

It was just really funny because everybody kind of looked at me like I was crazy or it was it was cute because they were all literally they were being serious about what they wanted to be.

這真的很有趣，因為每個人都看著我，好像我瘋了一樣，或者說這很可愛，因為他們真的都在認真對待自己想成為的人。

I mean, I always remember being drawn to music in a way that I just felt compelled to sing.

我的意思是，我一直記得自己被音樂所吸引，感覺自己不得不唱歌。

I felt compelled to feel the music in a way that was important.

我覺得必須以一種重要的方式來感受音樂。

And I remember all the way back to being a little kid and being like probably in fourth grade and hearing that Peter is to tear a song from the karate kid.

我還記得小時候，大概是四年級的時候，聽到空手道小子彼得要撕掉一首歌。

And, you know, that's the moment I think I kind of remember kind of thinking I might love a girl for the first time or something or think I did.

我記得那一刻，我覺得自己可能第一次愛上了一個女孩，或者其他什麼的，或者我覺得我做到了。

And I remember always feeling that kind of connection for the song to that memory of feeling that way.

我記得我一直覺得這首歌與那種感覺的記憶有種聯繫。

It was just in every time I hear that song, it's like it takes me back to that place.

我每次聽到這首歌，都彷彿回到了那個地方。

And a lot for a lot of us, it's like it really is the soundtrack to our lives.

對我們很多人來說，它就像是我們生活的背景音樂。

The music that we listen to really is, you know, kind of like a it's kind of like the clothes we wear kind of shows people who we are and what we're about and without, you know, having to really get to know somebody or it's just a great way to experience life.

我們聽的音樂就像我們穿的衣服，向人們展示我們是誰，我們是做什麼的，而不需要真正去了解一個人，或者這只是一種體驗生活的好方式。

You know, like maybe I could ask you to go back a little bit to the beginnings of the band, the genesis of the band, so to speak, mid 90s, San Fernando Valley.

你知道，也許我可以請你回溯一下樂隊的起源，可以這麼說，90 年代中期，聖費爾南多谷。

What was going on around you that made you guys get together to start this project at the beginning?

一開始是什麼原因讓你們聚在一起開始這個項目的？

Before I actually moved up there, I was in I was down deeper into the valley.

在我真正搬到那裡之前，我在山谷的更深處。

And the difference between Agora and Woodland Hills is that Woodland Hills at the time was they had a school program where they were bringing kids up from the inner city to get them out of basically to get them out of the hood and bring them up to an area that wasn't so dangerous.

阿戈拉和伍德蘭德山的區別在於，伍德蘭德山當時有一個學校項目，他們把孩子們從內城帶出來，基本上是為了讓他們離開貧民窟，把他們帶到一個不那麼危險的地方。

And so they could focus on their their school, their their work and improving as students and so on.

這樣，他們就可以專注於自己的學校、自己的工作和學生的進步等等。

And so with that said, a lot of my peers, a lot of my friends were from downtown L.A.,

是以，我的很多同齡人和朋友都來自洛杉磯市中心、

West L.A., and they were the ones who introduced me to rap music.

在西洛杉磯，是他們把說唱音樂介紹給我的。

And they and our group of friends was like.

It was like Korean, Mexican, Armenian, Jewish, you know, you know, 15 kids, all different backgrounds, a lot of different influences coming in.

就像韓國人、墨西哥人、亞美尼亞人、猶太人，你知道，你知道，15 個孩子，所有不同的背景，很多不同的影響都來了。

And then I moved up to Agora and it was a lot less so.

後來我搬到 Agora，情況就沒那麼糟了。

They didn't have a program where there wasn't as much diversity.

It's not that far away, though, is it really?

But there's the kids who are getting bused in were another 45 minutes away.

但那些坐校車來的孩子們卻要再等 45 分鐘。

So the people in Agora rarely went down an hour plus, you know, in L.A. traffic's like two hours.

所以在亞高洛的人很少去一個小時以上的地方，你知道，在洛杉磯，交通要兩個小時。

But the bottom line is that once I moved up there, my tastes had already like really developed a lot with the people that I grew up with.

但最重要的是，我一搬到那裡，我的品味就已經和那些和我一起長大的人有了很大的發展。

And so I'm in high school now and nobody's heard of Public Enemy.

現在我上高中了，沒人聽說過 "公敵 "樂隊。

Nobody's heard of LL Cool J. Nobody's heard of 2 Live Crew.

沒人聽說過 LL Cool J，也沒人聽說過 2 Live Crew。

And I'm kind of searching out people who knew the stuff I didn't knew.

我在尋找那些知道我不知道的事情的人。

事實上，她還是我最好的朋友之一。

One of the things we we got along so well, one of the reasons we got along so well is we both drew.

我們相處得如此融洽的原因之一，就是我們都會畫畫。

And we both, he had a wicked sense of humor.

And he really loved alternative music from like Depeche Mode and, you know, the darker like new wave bands to what was going on at the time, which was the beginning of grunge.

他非常喜歡另類音樂，從Depeche Mode和新浪潮樂隊，到Grunge的開端。

And so he was introducing me to all that stuff, which I had never heard.

是以，他向我介紹了那些我從未聽過的東西。

And I was introducing him to all the rap stuff, which was coming out at the time.

我向他介紹了當時流行的各種說唱音樂。

And that was around the time of like Cypress Hill and stuff like that.

那是在賽普拉斯山（Cypress Hill）之類的東西出現的前後。

So like I remember I gave him the first Cypress Hill album and introduced him to that.

所以，我記得我給了他第一張 Cypress Hill 專輯，並向他介紹了那張專輯。

He introduced me to like Alice in Chains and Nine Inch Nails.

他給我介紹了 Alice in Chains 和 Nine Inch Nails。

And so the two of us ended up, he played guitar.

於是我們倆就這樣結束了，他彈吉他。

I played, at the time I was learning how to use a sampler and keyboards.

當時我正在學習如何使用採樣器和鍵盤。

And I had this little four track cassette recorder that I could make songs on.

我有一臺小小的四軌錄音帶錄音機，可以用它來製作歌曲。

And so the two of us would get together every weekend and just throw down like these weird ideas.

於是，我們倆每個週末都會聚在一起，討論一些奇怪的想法。

Sometimes we were imitating other rap groups or bands or whatever.

有時，我們會模仿其他說唱團體或樂隊或其他什麼。

And we were just, we were just playing, you know.

我們只是，我們只是在玩，你知道的。

But it was just two of us learning how to kind of do everything that you would do to make a song.

但這只是我們兩個人在學習如何完成製作一首歌曲的所有工作。

And that's, that was the beginning of the thing, you know.

As time went on, it got more and more serious.

隨著時間的推移，情況越來越嚴重。

We started adding the other guys in the band.

我們開始加入樂隊的其他成員。

You know, his next door neighbor was Brad, who was a guitar player.

他的隔壁鄰居叫布拉德，是個吉他手。

Brad was going to school at UCLA with a guy named Dave.

布拉德和一個叫戴夫的人一起在加州大學洛杉磯分校上學。

I was going to school with Joe, who was a DJ.

我和喬一起上學，他是一名 DJ。

And so it all, we were just, we just picked like one degree of separation, like friends, brought them into the group.

於是，我們就像朋友一樣，把他們帶進了小組。

And then my good friend, who I started the band with, at a certain point, we just hit a wall and we realized that he couldn't be the singer.

然後，我的好朋友，也就是和我一起組建樂隊的人，在某一時刻，我們碰壁了，我們意識到他不可能成為主唱。

就在那時，我們開始接觸他們。

We started reaching out and finding, looking to find that missing component, that other, that singer.

我們開始尋找，尋找缺失的部分，尋找另一個人，尋找那個歌手。

And to Chester, what were you doing at the time and how did you connect with these guys?

對切斯特來說，你當時在做什麼，又是如何與這些人建立聯繫的？

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