A lot of families in L.A. are affected by the fires.

洛杉磯很多家庭都受到了火災的影響。

Tell CNN about what they faced leaving those flames and the heartbreaking return home to find their homes are just gone.

請向 CNN 講述他們在離開火場時所面臨的情況，以及回到家後發現自己的家園已經不復存在的心酸經歷。

I took my son, we ran to the car, and he was scared, he was crying, I was scared.

我帶著兒子，我們跑到車上，他很害怕，他在哭，我也很害怕。

It's okay sweetie, it's okay.

沒事的，親愛的，沒事的。

Trying to, you know, be calm and try to get out of the Palisades as fast as we could.

儘量保持冷靜，儘快離開帕利塞德。

I dropped to my knees and I just started praying, please God, please just save my house.

我跪在地上，開始祈禱，求上帝救救我的房子。

Getting ready to jump into the ocean.

準備跳入大海

All the firemen, they got the hell out of here, they evacuated quickly.

所有消防員都離開了這裡，迅速撤離。

I should have followed suit.

我也應該這樣做。

We started piling up the torres in the back of my car.

我們開始在我的車後座上堆放託雷。

I checked with my husband, I couldn't see him, there was so much smoke.

我去看我的丈夫，我看不到他，因為煙太大了。

I checked with him, do you have all of them?

我跟他確認過了，都在你這裡嗎？

And he said, I think so, and we just left.

他說，我想是的，然後我們就走了。

And he was walking around with his lantern in the house, Chase and I were talking to him, we were on FaceTime.

他提著燈籠在屋子裡走來走去，我和大通在和他哈拉，我們用的是 FaceTime。

And he said he'll be fine, I'll be here when you guys come back.

他說他會沒事的，你們回來時我會在這裡。

He was in his bed when I found him.

我發現他時，他還躺在床上。

It was so fast, a friend was able to go to the neighborhood once it had completely burned down and send us a video.

事情發生得太快了，一位朋友在附近地區被完全燒燬後就去了那裡，並給我們發來了一段視頻。

And that's when we found out for sure.

這時，我們才確定。

The idea of trying to figure out where we're going to be for the next month, where we're going to have this baby.

我想知道下個月我們要去哪裡，我們要在哪裡生下這個孩子。

We had so many friends and a massive support group there that I was really, really planning to lean on.

我們在那裡有很多朋友，還有一個龐大的支持團隊，我真的非常非常想依靠他們。

And losing them, it's like, it's almost harder than losing our home.

失去他們，就好像比失去我們的家還難。

I probably only have a dozen or so homes in my census track.

我的人口普查軌跡中大概只有十幾戶人家。

It's like half the town is gone, it's just too overwhelming.

就像半個小鎮都消失了一樣，這太令人難以接受了。

We're just living with clothes on our back and lucky to have friends that are bringing us in.

我們現在衣食無憂，幸運的是有朋友接濟我們。

I think everybody just needs to understand that they've done their best.

我認為每個人都應該明白，他們已經盡力了。

And, you know, as long as they're with their family and they have their lives, you know, life is long.

而且，你知道，只要他們和家人在一起，有自己的生活，你知道，生命是漫長的。

And I think we have that to look forward to.

我認為我們對此充滿期待。

You know, the trauma from these fires will affect hundreds of thousands of people in Los Angeles and likely beyond.

要知道，這些火災造成的創傷將影響到洛杉磯數十萬人，甚至更多。

When the fires are contained, they could be among the most costly and significant urban fires in American history.

當大火得到控制後，它們可能會成為美國曆史上損失最慘重、影響最大的城市火災之一。

So how are the people there in Los Angeles and elsewhere supposed to cope with the trauma they've faced?

那麼，洛杉磯和其他地方的人們該如何應對他們所面臨的創傷呢？

Joining me now is licensed clinical social worker and executive director of Resources for Resilience, Andupree Rogers.

現在加入我的是持證臨床社會工作者兼 "復原力資源 "執行主任安杜普里-羅傑斯。

Andupree, thank you for being with me.

謝謝你和我在一起。

First, let me start here with, for the people who are aware that this trauma could have a physical, emotional, mental effect.

首先，請允許我在這裡為那些意識到這種創傷可能會對身體、情感和精神造成影響的人們開個頭。

What behaviors, what symptoms should they look for, be on the lookout for in themselves to know that they have to address the trauma?

他們應該注意自己的哪些行為、哪些症狀，才能知道自己必須解決創傷問題？

So folks have been through an overwhelmingly stressful event, and it is really normal to be feeling a whole range of emotions.

是以，人們經歷了一場巨大的壓力事件，感受到各種情緒是非常正常的。

And it's really normal to be having a whole range of behaviors.

有各種各樣的行為其實很正常。

Our nervous systems get thrown completely out of balance when these kinds of events happen.

當這類事件發生時，我們的神經系統會完全失去平衡。

Our brains put us, for our own safety in the moment, put us into either fight or flight or freeze.

為了自身安全，我們的大腦會讓我們處於 "戰鬥"、"逃跑 "或 "凍結 "的狀態。

And those states are helpful kind of in the midst of the disaster.

而這些州正處於災難之中。

But what we don't want is to stay in those states, fight, flight, or freeze for long periods of time.

但我們不希望長期處於這些狀態，如戰鬥、逃跑或凍結。

Over time, that can be where the trauma can get stuck and we can have problems.

隨著時間的推移，創傷可能會被卡住，我們就會出現問題。

So I want people to understand if they're feeling really anxious, irritable, angry, numb, disconnected, shut down.

是以，我希望人們能夠理解，如果他們感到非常焦慮、煩躁、憤怒、麻木、與外界脫節、封閉自己。

Those are actually really normal reactions to a really not normal event.

這些其實都是對一件非常不正常的事情的正常反應。

If over time, if several weeks from now, people are still feeling like they have so much energy, it's stuck in their nervous system.

如果隨著時間的推移，如果幾周之後，人們仍然覺得自己精力充沛，那就說明他們的神經系統中還殘留著能量。

They can't sleep, they can't settle, they can't calm down.

他們無法入睡，無法安定，無法平靜下來。

They're kind of in this heightened state all the time.

他們一直處於這種高度緊張的狀態。

After several weeks, that would be where it's time to really think, okay, I might need to get some more help.

幾周後，就該真正考慮，好吧，我可能需要更多的幫助了。

Or a shut down state that gets stuck where I'm not really able to function, go out and about, take care of things.

或者說，我陷入了一種關閉狀態，無法正常工作、外出、處理事情。

Right now, it makes sense to not be able to take care of things, right?

現在，不能照顧好自己的事情是合理的，對嗎？

We're not really in a place for decision making, planning, organizing, knowing how to fill out paperwork.

我們並不擅長決策、計劃、組織，也不知道如何填寫文件。

Things like that is hard right now.

這樣的事情現在很難做。

It will get easier.

會越來越容易的。

And what should people do for the people who are displaced?

人們應該為流離失所的人們做些什麼？

Some of those are mental health professionals who would otherwise be able to help people who are calling for some assistance.

其中一些是心理健康專業人員，他們本可以幫助那些打電話尋求幫助的人。

You told my producer about something called rapid reset.

你跟我的製片人說過一種叫 "快速重置 "的東西。

What is that?

那是什麼？

Yes.

是的。

So we teach, and anyone can do these, quick little what we call nervous system reset tools.

是以，我們教給大家，任何人都可以做這些我們稱之為神經系統重置工具的快速小工具。

Things that we can do in the moment for about 20, 30 seconds that right now can help settle my stress response or sort of help my nervous system settle out of that fight, flight, freeze place, at least for the next little while.

我們可以在此刻做一些事情，大約 20 或 30 秒鐘，至少在接下來的一小段時間內，可以幫助我平息壓力反應，或者幫助我的神經系統從 "戰鬥、逃跑、凍結 "的狀態中恢復過來。

And they're simple things.

這些都是簡單的事情。

I can show you a couple.

我可以給你看幾個。

One of them is to, this is a really simple one, and I can demonstrate on the video.

其中一個方法很簡單，我可以在視頻中演示一下。

You cross your arms kind of like this and place your hands at whatever height feels good and just tap side to side, either slowly or fast, whatever feels right.

像這樣交叉雙臂，將雙手放在感覺合適的高度，然後左右輕拍，速度可慢可快，隨感覺而定。

And just notice what happens in your body and in your thoughts, but in your body when you tap.

注意你的身體和思想會發生什麼變化，當你輕拍時，你的身體會發生什麼變化。

And often, I don't know if you can see, it helps me sort of take a bigger breath.

很多時候，我不知道你是否能看到，它能幫我大口呼吸。

My voice might've dropped a little bit.

我的嗓子可能有點啞。

I had some kind of anxiety in my chest.

我的胸口有些不安。

It sort of begins to settle.

它開始穩定下來。

It's super simple, but it helps kind of stimulate parts of our brain to get the message.

這非常簡單，但卻有助於刺激我們大腦的某些部分，使其接收到資訊。

All right, I'm okay right now.

好了，我現在沒事了。

I'm okay right now.

我現在很好

Another one we can do, these are just super simple, quick things, but they help communicate to the part of our brain that needs to get the message, you're safe enough right now.

我們還可以做另一件事，這些都是超級簡單、快速的事情，但它們有助於向我們大腦中需要接收資訊的部分傳達 "你現在足夠安全 "的資訊。

You weren't safe, you're safe enough now.

你以前不安全，現在足夠安全了。

So like taking a sip of water, noticing how it feels.

所以，就像喝一口水，注意它的感覺。

And these are things that in the moment, as I said, you may not be able to reach someone who is a reliable source for this type of coping mechanism, reassurance.

正如我所說的，這些事情在當下，你可能無法找到可靠的人來提供這種應對機制和安慰。

And these are things that we can do alone to help ourselves cope through these moments.

這些都是我們可以獨自做的事情，以幫助自己度過這些時刻。

Andrew P.

安德魯-P.

Rogers, thank you so much for the information and the tools and for being with us this morning.

羅傑斯，非常感謝你提供的資訊和工具，感謝你今天上午和我們在一起。